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    New Churches Podcast

    The New Churches podcast offers practical answers to your real ministry questions. We aren’t going to provide lofty pie-in-the-sky theories. Instead, we are going to help you in your real ministry context, with your real thoughts, questions, and issues.

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    Set Yourself Up for a Great Year! Jan 10, 2023
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    Episode 726

    Looking at this past year, many of us think, “Wow, that could’ve gone better.” Host Clint Clifton talks with Dave Proffitt and Colby Garman about planning well to execute your ministry task.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • Who to include in your planning
    • How to plan and also be open to the spiritual work going on around you
    • Practices for creating healthy ministry margins
    • What church planters should fill their schedule with

    Helpful Resources:

    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    You will either plan to advance the key things in the life of the church or someone else is going to plan those things for you. @Colby Garman

    Proverbs 16:9 says “A man’s heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps.” @clintjclifton

    A lot of what the church needs to know is not necessarily going to come from the pastor. It’s going to come from the team of gifted people God has assembled to be the foundation for the church. – Dave Proffitt

    I think of times in our ministry where a person had an idea that I, in a million lifetimes, never would have come up with. @clintjclifton

    I want to plan to accomplish, but I also want to be prepared to pivot where I see God working. @Colby Garman

    Often we have no idea what God’s doing. Our work is worship. We offer it to God because we love Him and He does with it what He sees fit. @clintjclifton

    You’ve got to commit to prayer and to evangelism. You’ve got to connect with people. You’ve got to a servant leader. We need to train a disciple and we need to mentor. We need a coach and we need to recruit, recruit, recruit. We need to apprentice and become apprenticed. – Dave Proffitt

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    Year in Review: 3 Ways to Improve Your Preaching Dec 15, 2022
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    Year in Review: Episode 725

    One of the most important topics for pastors and church planters is improving their preaching. Host Clint Clifton and Noah Oldham discuss ways to continue to grow as preachers.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • Two schools of thought when it comes to preaching
    • Three things young preachers can do improve to their preaching

    Helpful Resources:

    • John Stott’s Between Two Worlds
    • Our Bivocational ministry course
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Most church planters consider themselves to be pretty good preachers yet, in my observation, most need to grow in their preaching. @clintjclifton

    Most church planters need time and reps and seasons to grow as communicators so they can be effective in the long run to help the church be strengthened. @NoahOldham

    An Indian proverb says, ‘He who has a good friend needs no mirror.'” @clintjclifton

    When I’m preaching, I want to disappear, yet I often carry more of myself into the pulpit than I realize. I want Him to increase and me to decrease. @NoahOldham

    Every time we imitate another preacher, it’s like a photocopy of a photocopy. @clintjclifton

    We call sermon critiques “wins and opportunities.” There’s no losses. It’s an opportunity for growth. @NoahOldham

    I heard Tim Keller say your first 300 sermons are garbage. So if you’re not to 300 yet, you should just assume your preaching needs a lot of improvement. @clintjclifton

    The post Year in Review: 3 Ways to Improve Your Preaching appeared first on New Churches.


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    Year in Review: Organizing Your Week Dec 08, 2022
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    Year in Review | Episode 723

    Pastors and church planters feel the pinch of not having enough time. Host Clint Clifton talks with Todd Adkins and Jessica Thompson about the value of – and techniques for – organizing your week.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • The difference between delegation and leadership development
    • Why it’s important to set aside less time for doing and more for developing
    • The value of bringing alongside ministry partners who excel in areas where you’re weak
    • How task prioritization may be more important than time management
    • What the stickiness of your plant depends on

    Helpful Resources:

    • Free podcasts:

      Building a Team from Scratch
      Discovering Pastoral Potential
      Multiplying Church Leaders

    • Free ebook: Building Your Core Team
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    It’s getting harder and harder for pastors of new churches to have enough money to take care of their family, meet their obligations and survive in the cities God’s called them to reach. @ClintJClifton

    You’re probably spending way too much time doing versus developing. The most practical thing you can do is set aside less time for doing and more time for developing. @ToddAdkins

    You need to be disciplined enough to know what you have time for. What five things do I need to accomplish this week?Don’t let other people’s needs and demands move you from what you feel God has on your plate to do this week. – Jessica Thompson

    What are the things that only you can do? That’s the category where you need to be doing and developing. @ClintJClifton

    For a church planter who hasn’t launched yet, the absolute most important thing you can be doing is developing people. When you hit the launch phase, you’re going to need all those people, and the stickiness of your plant depends on the people, not the programming. @ToddAdkins

    Build your team with people who are willing to step out in faith and cast your vision, being able to communicate clearly what God has called your church to do, because that’s going to draw people to the Lord. – Jessica Thompson

    Church planting feels a lot like Whac-A-Mole. There’s a lot of things going on on a lot of different fronts and you can get into this pattern of frenzy and feverishness. The truth is, if I’m trying to hit every head that pops up, I’m going to miss some important ones. @ClintJClifton

    The post Year in Review: Organizing Your Week appeared first on New Churches.


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    Year in Review: Reaching People Far from God Dec 06, 2022
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    Year in Review: Episode 722

    Many church planters set out to reach people with the gospel but often find their new churches full of folks from other churches. Host Ed Stetzer talks with Heiden Ratner and Vance Pitman about the challenge of staying outwardly focused to reach people far from God.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • How to get a core team outwardly focused on reaching people who are not churched or not believers
    • How God used Heiden’s “idolatry problem with basketball” to draw him to faith in Christ
    • How a “divine appointment” gave Heiden an opportunity to meet a well-known UFC fighter and how they are trading text messages about faith
    • What personal practices can help planters be more evangelistic and engaging people who don’t know Christ
    • The best ways to help new believers grow in their faith and become fully devoted followers of Christ

    Helpful Free Resources:

    • Developing a Core Team
    • Church Planting Primer
    • Church Planting Masterclass

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Here’s a very practical tip for this idea of building bridges into the city: Every city has a city manager and every city manager has a list of problems on their desk that’s their responsibility to solve. Go meet your city manager, build a relationship, find out what of those items on that list you can take off the list. @VancePitman

    I love the Major Ian Thomas quote: “The same life Jesus lived, he lives now through us.” If we’re allowing Christ to live in and through us, he’s focused on lost people. He’s seeking. He’s saving. @HeidenRatner

    Engaging adults who don’t know Christ leads to some messy challenges, but we must encourage people to still value that. @EdStetzer

    Yes, it’s messy when you when you reach people in a place like Vegas. But it’s also pure. There is a purity about the gospel from these new believers that is contagious. It creates a freshness in the body of Christ that is worth going after. @VancePitman

    Have the authenticity to be yourself, not feeling like you have to be somebody else in their walk with Christ. Be you. Everybody’s got a unique leaning, unique wiring, and so we’re trying to help people champion the things that make you be authentically you in the body of Christ, and you’ll find your fit. @HeidenRatner

    The post Year in Review: Reaching People Far from God appeared first on New Churches.


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    Year in Review | Reaching People Far from God Dec 06, 2022
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    Year in Review: Episode 722

    Many church planters set out to reach people with the gospel but often find their new churches full of folks from other churches. Host Ed Stetzer talks with Heiden Ratner and Vance Pitman about the challenge of staying outwardly focused to reach people far from God.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • How to get a core team outwardly focused on reaching people who are not churched or not believers
    • How God used Heiden’s “idolatry problem with basketball” to draw him to faith in Christ
    • How a “divine appointment” gave Heiden an opportunity to meet a well-known UFC fighter and how they are trading text messages about faith
    • What personal practices can help planters be more evangelistic and engaging people who don’t know Christ
    • The best ways to help new believers grow in their faith and become fully devoted followers of Christ

    Helpful Free Resources:

    • Developing a Core Team
    • Church Planting Primer
    • Church Planting Masterclass

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Here’s a very practical tip for this idea of building bridges into the city: Every city has a city manager and every city manager has a list of problems on their desk that’s their responsibility to solve. Go meet your city manager, build a relationship, find out what of those items on that list you can take off the list. @VancePitman

    I love the Major Ian Thomas quote: “The same life Jesus lived, he lives now through us.” If we’re allowing Christ to live in and through us, he’s focused on lost people. He’s seeking. He’s saving. @HeidenRatner

    Engaging adults who don’t know Christ leads to some messy challenges, but we must encourage people to still value that. @EdStetzer

    Yes, it’s messy when you when you reach people in a place like Vegas. But it’s also pure. There is a purity about the gospel from these new believers that is contagious. It creates a freshness in the body of Christ that is worth going after. @VancePitman

    Have the authenticity to be yourself, not feeling like you have to be somebody else in their walk with Christ. Be you. Everybody’s got a unique leaning, unique wiring, and so we’re trying to help people champion the things that make you be authentically you in the body of Christ, and you’ll find your fit. @HeidenRatner


    What Churches that Multiply Do Differently Dec 01, 2022
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    Episode 721

    Many pastors intend for their church to multiply, but very few actually start new churches. Host Clint Clifton talks with John Welborn about what churches that multiply do differently than those that don’t.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • The need to set aside time for leadership development,
    • provide clarity around the vision,
    • make your life available to developing leaders,
    • demystify spiritual leadership,
    • understand the financial component

    Helpful Resources:

    • Free book: Church Planting Thresholds
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    Almost every church planter I’m interacting with intends for his church to multiply, yet very few of them are actually sending out and starting new churches. There’s a huge gap between intention and the practice, and that gap is how difficult it is and the things you have to do day-to-day in order to make it a reality. @ClintJClifton

    At Salem, we lost over 50% of our church to relocations. We were put in a position to say if we don’t raise up new leaders, then we’re sunk. It’s not just a vision. It’s also something that’s in practical application on a week-to-week and month to-month basis. @JWWelborn

    As a church planter, as you gather your team, crystallizing and communicating the vision that this new church is not just one new church, it tends to gather the sort of people that really resonate with a multiplying vision. Crystallize that vision from Day One. @ClintJClifton

    You have to open your life because discipleship, as it relates to being a spiritual leader, is more than just a classroom informational setting. @JWWelborn

    People can’t imagine themselves becoming what you are until it’s not mystical to them anymore, until they they can understand it and see how normal it is. @ClintJClifton

    We always say to our church’s residents that we want to do church in such a way that the average Joe looks up at the stage and says, “I could totally do that.” @ClintJClifton

    If you prioritize church multiplication as an essential element of the vision God has given, then it’s going to cost you something. We are making sacrifices to provide to each neighborhood what they need most, which is a gospel-preaching church. @JWWelborn

    The post What Churches that Multiply Do Differently appeared first on New Churches.


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    From Maintenance to Multiplication Nov 17, 2022
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    Episode 719

    Pastors are so overwhelmed with responsibilities that they often move the bar really low to having a maintenance mindset, rather than pursuing a vision of multiplication. Host Clint Clifton talks with John Welborn about how to move from maintenance to multiplication.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • What causes pastors and churches to slip into maintenance mode
    • How success should be defined
    • Why a multiplication vision is essential for every church
    • The necessity of owning where you are as a church
    • How fear keeps a pastor from casting vision for multiplication

    Helpful Resources:

    • Article: Church Planter Postpartum Depression?
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    When every decision is run through the filter of “How do I survive?” … it’s a killer for multiplication, for advancing the mission and the kingdom of God the way we’ve been called to do. @JWWelborn

    The reality that churches are dying all around us and every church is going to die should create this category in our mind where we say multiplication is essential because our church isn’t going to be here forever. @ClintJClifton

    The only hope is aggressive disciple-making, leadership development and church multiplication. @JWWelborn

    One of the first steps to actually becoming good at multiplication is owning where you are as a church. @ClintJClifton

    Advancing the kingdom is perfectly fine, but when you start trimming budgets to make room for resources, then you’ve got members, who are paying the bills, saying, “No, I don’t think so.” That’s where it gets real. @JWWelborn

    The worst thing for us is that isolation causes us to to slip into survival and maintenance modes. But when we’re in community and able to talk to one another, we can combat the enemy’s voice in our life and focus our energy and attention on things we know are actually right. @ClintJClifton

    Success in casting vision really is determined by how far down the organizational chart people are communicating that vision. @JWWelborn

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    Developing an Exit Strategy Nov 10, 2022
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    Episode 717

    What happens in churches when pastors don’t properly plan for someone to succeed them? Host: Clint Clifton talks with Jess Thompson and Todd Adkins about the connection between developing leaders and successfully transitioning a plant to next-stage leadership.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • The difference between transitional and cultural leadership development
    • The value of having a leadership development pipeline
    • Why it’s important to look at succession at every level
    • How a church’s need for different leadership gifts frees a pastor to try new things
    • Where to get help in developing a succession plan

    Helpful Resources:

    • NAMB’s Multiplication Pipeline training
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    If you’re successful in planting a church, there will come a time when you’ll start to think, “I wonder if I’m the person to lead this thing to the next stage of growth?” @ClintJClifton

    Churches have two choices: You can either build leaders or buy leaders. Our problem is we have gotten out of the habit of building leaders. @ToddAdkins

    From what I’ve observed, it seems so much driven by the pastor who’s leaving and what God is doing in their life and how they’re preparing their church for that. How prepared is the church? How attached are they to the pastor? – Jessica Thompson

    If you constantly develop people, you’ll find you will be able to multiply. When your time has come to transition out, you’ll be ready to do that in a way that helps the church be successful. @ClintJClifton

    In the maturity and stability of the church long-term, it needs its primary voice to be in the shepherd-teacher category. When a church is started, it needs its primary voice to be apostolic. @ClintJClifton

    Your legacy is really what happens after you leave. It’s not what you do; it’s who you develop. @ToddAdkins

    An amazing amount of humility is needed for all involved – the leader you’ve developed and the thing that God is calling you to do next. – Jessica Thompson

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    Financing Ministry in the Expensive Urban Core Nov 08, 2022
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    Episode 716

    Raising funds for a church plant in the expensive urban core of a city poses many challenges – among them the task of financing the ministry. Host Ed Stetzer talks with James Roberson and Taylor Field about their planting experiences in New York City.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • The “three self formula” of planting indigenous churches
    • How starting with a nonprofit can help structure your approach
    • The importance of depending only on the God who called you
    • How facilities factor into the equation
    • Ways to prioritize missions giving in church planting

    Helpful Resources:

    • Link: Bridge Church NYC
    • Link: Graffiti Church
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    The way we got our apartment was our sending church co-signed for us. It was 600 square feet and we paid close to $3,000 a month for that. — James Roberson

    We call it the “F word.” No one wants to talk about finances but it’s really important. — Taylor Field

    Play the cards you’re dealt and focus on that. People always ask, “How many sources do you have?” We say, “One source, many channels.” We do have many challenges but it’s one source: our Heavenly Father. — Taylor Field

    Your confidence must be categorically in God, because if it’s not, then you’re going to be depending on Big Bucks Tabernacle to fund you. I literally had individual, single-parent moms give me more than huge name churches. — James Roberson

    You can’t get into that corrosive mentality of “You owe me.” You’ve got to know that God called you and He will fund what He’s called you to. Once you’re convinced of that, no city can stop the call of God. — James Roberson

    What we said was “Lord, we don’t want to be a sofa. We want want to be a launching pad.” One of the root words for “salvation” in the Hebrew is “make a space for.” Having a space helped us become a launching pad. — Taylor Field

    It’s important for church planters, especially in the urban core, to look beyond our own self-interest as a church. — Taylor Field

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    5 Advantages of Staying Small Nov 03, 2022
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    Episode 715

    Even if we say growth is really not a congregation’s goal, there’s a subtle pressure for our churches to always be numerically larger. Host Clint Clifton talks with Jess Thompson and Todd Adkins about five advantages to staying relatively small.

    In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

    • The advantage of agility in mission
    • Why relational depth is so important
    • What forced ingenuity means in a smaller church context
    • Why smaller churches can handle failure better
    • Why volunteer dependency is such a good thing

    Helpful Resources:

    • Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s book: Team of Teams
    • John Kotter books:
      Leading Change
      Accelerate: Building Strategic Agility for a Faster-Moving World
    • Lawrence Miller’s book: Barbarians to Bureaucrats
    • Interested in learning more? Check out our Church Planting Primer
    • Are you ready to enroll in our Church Planting Masterclass?

    Please subscribe to the podcast and leave a rating and review on iTunes.

    Sharable Quotes (#NewChurches):

    We obviously we want to continue to reach people with the gospel. However, there are some advantages to your local church being modest in size. @ClintJClifton

    The advantages of staying small are numerous. You always hear the speedboat versus freight liner analogy. One is easier to maneuver than the other. @ToddAdkins

    A big church has more resources to put into an initiative but in large churches there’s this hesitancy toward change or doing something new. I think it’s harder to pivot to try new things when there’s this hesitancy. – Jess Thompson

    When the lines of decision-making are very clear but they’re not very relational, it becomes a lot harder to do something outside the box. @ClintJClifton

    Relational depth is the biggest bonus for small churches. That’s what we want spiritually – to be known, by our Creator, by each other. In large churches that’s hard to do. – Jess Thompson

    John Kotter says organizations start relational and nodal, then move to hierarchical. Legacy churches and organizations tend to have their lunch eaten by the upstarts, who are more relational. The secret sauce to stay relational and grow at the same time is to have both. @ToddAdkins

    Unfortunately the larger and more established you get, you tend to be innovative where you should be static and static where you should be innovative. But smallness allows you to say, “Oh, I can take initiative here.” It’s easier to take risks. Church planting tends to just attract people who can see that way. @ToddAdkins

    The post 5 Advantages of Staying Small appeared first on New Churches.


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