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    Nessun Dorma Retro Football Podcast

    An in-depth, nostalgic celebration of football in the eighties and nineties, where the wider world of sport and popular culture are occasionally welcome visitors.
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    S5 Ep8: Nessun Dorma Book Club Aug 14, 2023
    Show notes

    Welcome to the Nessun Dorma Book Club, a kind of sporting Late Review but without Tony Parsons.

    The premise this week is simple: Mike, Gary and Martyn bring a football book that made an impact on their lives and explain why.

    From the definitive and myth-shattering history of West German football and the instant window into the past provided by Panini to a delve into the world of sports psychology at a time when Sven-Göran Eriksson was still considered to be a Svengali and not a Scandi Benny Hill, there is something here for everyone.


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    S5 Ep7: The Nessun Dorma Draft: Italia 90 Aug 07, 2023
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    Welcome to the inaugural Nessun Dorma Draft, in which we each pick an XI from a particular tournament, season or era. Given the name of our podcast, we had to start with a trip back to Italia 90.

    Martyn, Gary and Rob are joined by Mac Millings to pick their XIs from a tournament full of superstars.

    These are the rules:

    1. Each player can only be picked by one person. When Andy Brehme has gone, he’s gone.

    2. Players are judged solely on their form during Italia 90. Thus: Salvatore Schillaci good, Marco van Basten bad.

    3. Managers must announce their planned formation before the draft begins.

    4. You decide who wins the draft. Go to Twitter, X or whatever it’s called today to choose which team you think is the best. The poll will close at midday on Friday (UK time).

    As well as giving four ageing men a frankly disproportionate thrill, the draft is an excuse to rhapsodise the players we love from Italia 90, and to make snide comments about each other’s selections.

    You can view our teams in formation by clicking here, though you may want to leave that until after you’ve listened to the pod.


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    S5 Ep6: Euro 88 (final) Jul 31, 2023
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    In the last episode of our Euro 88 special, Martyn, Gary and Rob are joined by Jonathan O’Brien to discuss the final in Munich and the tournament as a whole.

    They look at whether the suspended Oleg Kuznetsov would have changed the game, why we remember the Netherlands so fondly and whether a goal as extraordinary as Marco van Basten’s can create the illusion of inevitability.


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    S5 Ep5: Euro 88 special (semi-finals) Jul 24, 2023
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    Both Euro 88 semi-finals were intriguing culture clashes. The first match, in Hamburg, was loaded with historical significance. West Germany v Netherlands evoked the 1974 World Cup final and even the second world war. A good (if slightly overrated) match had a savage late twist that went straight into European Championship folklore.

    USSR v Italy did not have the same mutual enmity, but they were also a study in contrasts. The Soviet Union were experienced and streetwise, Italy young and upbeat. They met on a dank, moody night in Stuttgart.

    Martyn, Mike and Rob are joined by Jonathan O’Brien – author of the superb Euro Summits, a history of the European Championship – to discuss both games and give some love to a slightly forgotten great: Andreas Brehme.


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    S5 Ep4: Euro 88 special (matchday 3) Jul 17, 2023
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    By the final round of group games, Euro 88 was effectively a six-team tournament. Denmark and England were already eliminated and barely had any pride left to play for.

    Group A was concluded with simultaneous games on Friday night, just a week – and a lifetime – after the tournament had begun. The hosts West Germany played Spain in Munich, with the likelihood that the semi-finals wouldn’t be big enough for the both of them. West Germany needed a draw, Spain a win.

    Italy, who many felt had been the best team in the tournament to date, needed only a draw against Denmark to guarantee qualification.

    Group B was settled the following afternoon, with the BBC deciding to show Republic of Ireland’s decisive match against the Netherlands instead of England v USSR. Assuming a collectively depressed England side didn’t win that game (spoiler alert…), Ireland knew they would reach the semis with a draw. The Netherlands had no such luxury; if they didn’t win, they were almost certainly going home.

    Martyn, Gary and Rob chat about all four games… and Bryan Robson taking our his frustrations on Peter Shilton’s chin. Oh, and Rob’s dog Margot makes an unscripted appearance.

    If you like the podcast, please spread the word and rate/review us on your podcast app. The more people who listen to Nessun Dorma, the greater our chances of one day telling The Man where he might like to deposit his 9-5.


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    S5 Ep3: Euro 88 special (matchday 2) Jul 10, 2023
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    Euro 88 was only four days old when the second of group games began, but our old friend jeopardy was already running amok. After a nervous start, the hosts West Germany took on an ailing Denmark in Gelsenkirchen. A few hours later, also in Group A, Italy met Spain in what was felt like a de facto quarter-final.

    Then, on Wednesday afternoon, we rushed home from school (or, in Gary’s case, grabbed a seat in front of a 15-inch TV with a load of fashionistas) for the big one: England v the Netherlands, a match that both teams could barely afford to draw, never mind lose.

    In the evening, Ireland produced arguably the finest performance of the Jack Charlton years against the USSR in a game that included a famous goal and a forgotten first touch to die for.

    Martyn, Gary and Rob rave about a teenage Paolo Maldini, discuss English football’s obsession with individual heroism, question an iconic hat-trick and celebrate a partnership from the future: Ruud Gullit and Marco van Basten.


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    S5 Ep2: Euro 88 special (matchday 1) Jul 06, 2023
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    Our look back at Euro 88 continues with the first round of group games. On Friday 10 June 1988, the tournament kicked off with a tense match between West Germany, the hosts and favourites, and a vibrant young Italian side.

    The other Group A game took place the following afternoon, a thrilling if slightly shambolic contest between Denmark and Spain. There were five goals and a fair bit of controversy, but the highlight for English audiences was a brief, comic loss of temper from the usually immaculate Barry Davies.

    In Group B, two of the pre-tournament favourites – England and the Netherlands – got underway. England faced an FA Cup tie against the Republic of Ireland, whose 20-man squad included 16 England-based players.

    In the evening we finally got to see the Netherlands, including their Ballon d’Or-winning captain Ruud Gullit. They took on European Championship royalty: the USSR.


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    S5 Ep1: Euro 88 special (tournament preview) Jun 26, 2023
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    A new series of Nessun Dorma starts with the first part of our deep dive into Euro 88, the last major tournament in Europe before the big bang of Italia 90. Martyn Ramsay, Gary Naylor and Rob Smyth set the scene for a much anticipated tournament. “Whatever happens,” wrote David Lacey in his preview for the Guardian, “the 1988 European Championship should set new standards on the field.”

    Martyn, Gary and Rob discuss where football was at in 1988, recall the highlights of qualification – including Ireland’s favourite Scotsman and the Cypriot keeper who was almost blown up – and preview each team’s prospects ahead of the tournament. Were England valid second favourites? How much did we know about the Netherlands? And who was Matthias Herget?

    The draw

    Group 1 West Germany, Italy, Spain, Denmark

    Group 2 England, Netherlands, USSR, Republic of Ireland

    Pre-tournament odds

    7/4 West Germany

    5/1 England, Netherlands

    13/2 Italy

    7/1 USSR

    11/1 Spain, Denmark

    25/1 Republic of Ireland


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    World Cup special: West Germany vs France, 1982 Nov 18, 2022
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    Nessun Dorma returns from hibernation for a one-off special ahead of the World Cup, and a deep dive into one of the greatest matches in its storied history: the Espana 82 semi-final between West Germany and Germany.


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    A selection from 101 Great Goals Sep 14, 2022
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    Lee, Mike and Gary pick a couple of goals each from the legendary BBC VHS


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