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    Music Not Diving with Scuba

    Paul Rose aka the musician, DJ, and label boss known as Scuba talks to people of significance from the world of electronic music about their experiences, observations, and attempts to cultivate a life for themselves in the murky and sometimes treacherous waters of the music industry.


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    #005 Lawrence Hart: Burial’s sampling, music theory, and Soviet-era synths Apr 01, 2025
    Show notes

    Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!

    --

    Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    What happens when you sign on to a label roster that contains The Arctic Monkeys, Jon Hopkins, and Hot Chip... and the drummer quits your band on the release day of the first single?


    This and other pertinent questions are answer on this week's episode. Lawrence Hart is still signed to Domino Records, but now as a solo artist whose debut album, Come In Out Of The Rain, will be released imminently.


    We also discuss his background as a jazz musician, travelling all over America with various bands in his formative years, and get into one of our favourite recurring questions on the show - the one about music theory in dance music.


    This is a good one! Check it out.


    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Intro and how you can support the show

    03:40 What's in a name?

    06:00 Working with George FitzGerald

    11:40 Early experiences in music

    15:30 Studying Jazz in New York City

    18:21 Music theory and dance music

    20:45 NYC Jazz clubs

    22:45 Discovering electronic music

    25:30 Touring in America

    28:30 Signing to Domino with Little Cub

    35:20 Going solo as Lawrence Hart

    40:00 The decline of bands

    46:53 Playing electronic music live

    53:30 The perils of sample clearance

    59:30 Burial influence

    01:06:00 Key changes in modern pop

    01:11:00 More on the new LH album

    01:12:40 Key synths on the album

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    #004 Jane Fitz: Raving in 90s Hong Kong and the mystery of the underground Mar 25, 2025
    Show notes

    Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!

    --

    Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    Is Jane Fitz a DJ's DJ? Even though we hate the term, it probably applies here...


    A DJ of more than 25 years and a crucial figure in underground house and techno, Jane is also a promoter of some of the best parties in the UK over a similar time period.

    We discuss her roots in London, experiences living in Hong Kong during the 90s, and her route into DJing via magazine journalism and record collecting. And of course we cover her seminal parties, Peg, and Night Moves which is still running sporadically when suitable venues can be found.


    This is a great conversation with someone who does things the right way... get involved!

    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Intro and how you can support the show

    05:30 Current raves in South America

    07:30 What is 'underground'?

    18:20 Music is no longer the most important thing

    23:13 Anxiety in the younger audience

    25:45 Rock shows vs Clubs

    28:30 Early experiences with music

    32:50 A lifetime of collecting vinyl

    38:20 DJing with vinyl or USB

    43:32 First DJ gigs

    46:30 Discovering Jeff Mills

    48:35 Living in Hong Kong

    01:01:40 Moving back to the UK

    01:04:30 Promoting parties in London - PEG

    01:10:30 Promoting Night Moves

    01:14:54 Smoking ban and noise complaints affect UK clubs

    01:20:30 Should big DJs play small clubs?

    01:26:00 Problems with the dance press

    01:35:50 Italian deep house recommendations

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    #003 Spencer Parker on the phone: Berlin, changes, and HorsegiirL Mar 18, 2025
    Show notes

    Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!

    --

    Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    We had our first bit of negative feedback last week... 'too much deconstruction of the club scene' they said! Or something along those lines anyway. Unfortunately this episode was already in the can when we read that, so that person is going to have to soldier on for another week...


    :(


    Spencer Parker is a Brit, but also something of an underground legend of Berlin having lived there for 15 years and been part of the clubbing furniture for about the same length of time. He's the long-time a&r of Work Them records, a producer with a catalogue going back to the the mid 2000s (although he always plays this down massively), and a serious DJ who's been on the circuit for that long too.


    This is a phone conversation that covers many of the familiar topics of scene development, challenges, personal experiences, and music curiosity. But we also discuss HorsegiirL and PC Music.

    --

    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Intro and how you can support the show

    04:00 The enduring appeal of Berlin

    09:20 Heartbreak and leaving London

    15:45 easyJet Techno

    23:00 Subculture to mainstream

    28:30 "If the DJ wants to be on the stage, don't book them"

    31:30 Getting into club music

    36:50 The decline of the anthem

    42:00 An infinite amount of music

    45:00 Fake it til you make it culture

    47:30 DJ HorsegirrL

    59:40 Working in a record shop

    01:07:00 Becoming a DJ

    01:15:00 Progressing into production

    01:19:50 Perseverance and DJing


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    #002 James Ruskin: Tresor, Blueprint, and the enduring appeal of vinyl Mar 11, 2025
    Show notes

    Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!

    --

    Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    The DJ / Producer / Label boss paradigm is a classic career path in dance music, not least in the case of the presenter of this show. But few have nailed all three elements quite as well over the last three decades as this week's guest on the show.


    Blueprint is James Ruskin's label - an absolute foundation of UK techno, and techno generally it should be said, with seminal releases from the likes of DVS1, Mark Broom, Oliver Ho, Sigha, as well as the boss himself. It will soon be celebrating 30 years of releases, which is a pretty incredible achievement.


    As a producer he's released prolifically outside his own imprint, most notably via an association with Tresor that goes back to the 90s. And as a DJ he's been a key part of the UK scene and beyond for at least that long too.


    We discuss familiar themes such as the state of the scene today, the comparative challenges of releasing music over a thirty year period, the evolution of his approach to work in the studio, amongst a lot of other stuff besides.


    This is a great conversation with an absolute key man. Get involved!


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Intro and how you can support the show

    03:50 The definition of Techno

    11:05 Small clubs vs. festivals

    16:30 Hard Techno and 30 year cycles

    20:33 "Minimal was so fucking boring"

    25:39 30 years of Blueprint

    35:45 UK Techno brotherhood

    37:30 Digital vs. Vinyl

    46:25 "I still buy vinyl every week"

    49:50 Hip-Hop, Beat Street and Breakdance

    54:05 Learning how to mix in the club

    58:11 Illegal raves and commercialisation

    01:01:33 The legend of LOST

    01:06:00 The importance of Tresor

    01:10:13 Playing Detroit tunes in Detroit

    01:11:15 Techno in Spain

    01:16:40 James Ruskin the race car driver

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    #001 Tom Middleton: Sleep, audio therapy, and Aphex Twin Mar 04, 2025
    Show notes

    Music Not Diving is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!

    --

    Welcome to the first episode of Music Not Diving! Watch the full video version of this episode over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving


    It's very far from perfect but it is out on time and no-one ever does perfect drops anymore do they?


    There is one perfect aspect to the new show though, and that is the first guest. Tom Middleton is a true don of electronic music. From his seminal work with Mark Pritchard as Global Communication and Jedi Knights, through multiple solo albums, and collaborations with luminaries such as Matthew Herbert, the man's record is unimpeachable.


    Perhaps just as interestingly though, is his second career as a sleep coach, sensory designer, and pioneer of audio therapeutics for sleep, relaxation, pain management, and cognitive performance. He's a co-founder of White Mirror, where he crafts health-driven sensory content and experiences, and a sleep science expert and neuroscience researcher. His therapeutic audio helps millions through Calm, Apple Music and Breathonics.


    So this is a highly interesting conversation, and a great way to start the new show.


    Grab the GCOM album discussed here


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Not A Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Chapters:

    00:00 Intro and how you can support the show

    04:00 Working as a sleep coach

    08:43 Top tips for good sleep

    14:15 Touring life as a DJ

    17:08 Narcolepsy and jet lag in Miami

    24:10 Psychedelics and therapy

    35:40 The untapped 66.3 trillion industry

    42:00 Origins and the Cornwall Electronic mafia

    45:55 Being introduced to Aphex Twin

    52:00 Music theory vs. instinct

    01:02:00 Meeting Mark Pritchard and forming Global Communication

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    #157 DJ Bone (redux): a re-run of one of our favourite episodes Feb 25, 2025
    Show notes

    The Not A Diving Podcast is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!

    --


    We will be back next week with some important changes to the show... but in the meantime we bring you another chance to catch one of our favourite ever episodes. From all the way back on episode 73, it's DJ Bone!


    The majority of DJs spent the pandemic mostly of stood in front of a camera, attempting to perform the impossible task of transplanting a rave into the bedrooms of the few people lucky enough to be watching at the other end of a fibre optic cable.


    We are only beginning to come to terms with the implications of what the failure of that approach have had for our culture, but DJ Bone did something completely different.

    'Further' was a hugely successful series of events which combined music, talking, and a bit of socially-distanced vibing out.


    DJ Bone just released an album of the same name as those events, which he sees as jumping off point to his career even at this relatively advanced stage. We discuss that in detail, as well as those events, and what they mean in the context of what he's done in music since the 90s.


    We also discuss his roots as a party-goer in Detroit, the wider state of Techno and dance music generally today, and what needs to change to get back on track after a few years of real turmoil.


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Not A Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Follow Scuba: twitter instagram bandcamp spotify apple music beatport

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    #156 Wrestling, Rap Beefs, and Cultural Nihilism: the changing skillset of the modern musician Feb 18, 2025
    Show notes

    The Not A Diving Podcast is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!

    --


    What connects professional wrestling, the 2025 Superbowl halftime show, finance alternative media, and a ubiquitous major label tech house stooge?


    On this episode we find out.


    The podcast episode referenced can be found on Spotify here.


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Not A Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Follow Scuba: twitter instagram bandcamp spotify apple music beatport

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    #155 Riva Starr: House music and songwriting, "as a producer it's important to be challenged" Feb 11, 2025
    Show notes

    The Not A Diving Podcast is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!

    --


    What happens when an established house producer wants to write songs? What happens when they want to do things which might not appeal to their existing audience? That is what this week's guest is currently discovering, as he makes the finishing touches to an album that sees him step out of his comfort zone and into unfamiliar surroundings.


    Riva Starr is one of the most successful house producers of the past couple of decades, starting out on Dirty Bird and becoming a fixture of the biggest house label of them all, Defected, as well as collabbing with huge names including Diplo, Fatboy Slim, and Todd Terry.


    We discuss the processes behind the forthcoming record, running recording sessions in LA, the challenges of working with big names and pro musicians, his backstory in Italy and breakbeat, and a ton of other stuff.


    This is a great conversation with one of the good guys. Get involved!


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Not A Diving Podcast Spotify playlist


    Follow Scuba: twitter instagram bandcamp spotify apple music beatport

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    #154 Aly Gillani: Bandcamp - the insider take, "what's best for the artist always comes first for us" Feb 04, 2025
    Show notes

    The Not A Diving Podcast is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!

    --


    We are getting deep in the independent music industry weeds on this week's episode...


    To get started we must redirect you to episodes 91 and 92 of the podcast, which were a pair of deep solo dives into the world of direct-to-consumer music sales, Bandcamp in particular, and specifically the takeover of the platform by Songtradr that had just occurred.


    On those episodes I tried to debunk some of the wilder takes that had been circulating online and drill down into the platform and wider sector to establish what's so special about it and why it provokes such strong reactions.


    On this week's episode we welcome Aly Gillani, the European Label Representative at Bandcamp, to discuss all these issues in detail and get the insider take on the whole thing.


    As you might expect, this is absolutely fascinating - if you're interested in the backend workings of the independent music industry that is...


    ...and of course you are!


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Not A Diving Podcast Spotify playlist

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


    #153 Ben Sims: what is Hardgroove anyway? "I wasn't expecting it to be a term that other people use to describe their music" Jan 28, 2025
    Show notes

    The Not A Diving Podcast is supported by AC55ID... head over to www.ac55id.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing!


    --


    What is Hardgroove anyway? It's a genre of techno isn't it? A general sort of vibe? Maybe even a music trend that has saved techno as a whole from the encroachment of the execrable nonsense that really shouldn't be included in the genre in the first place?


    Well actually Hardgroove is really just Ben Sims techno. It's a term that he coined in the mid 90s and the name of a label he's been running since not too long after that. But it's also become a kind of shorthand for a wave in the music whose renewed popularity in recent years has been a something of a lifeline for a corner of the scene that had got itself into a very bad spot indeed.


    So we talk about all that in this episode, as well as what it's like to be one of the biggest techno DJs on the planet, as well as his journey from being fascinated by early hip hop, through Acid House and onto the global techno circuit that he's inhabited for a good few decades now.


    This is a great conversation with a true legend of the scene... get involved!


    If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else.


    You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support.


    Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels.


    Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Not A Diving Podcast Spotify playlist

    Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


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