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    Money Ha Ha

    Smart, funny friends Dara M Wilson and Yasmine Khan bring money talk out of the shame drawer and onto the table.

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    (017) Privilege: It Must Be Nice! (w/ Heather Anne Campbell) Aug 13, 2019
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    Comedy writer and podcast co-host Heather Anne Campbell (The Twilight Zone, How Did This Get Played?) joins Dara and Yas this week to talk about the privilege of growing up with money. The group shares experiences from both sides of the wealth privilege spectrum—from driving a car purchased for $1, to “failing up” by being sent to private school as punishment—and how those experiences shaped how they see themselves today.

    Though the stats on how your family’s wealth (or lack thereof) affects your prospects as an adult get pretty grim, the ladies end up thinking you don’t have to be discouraged, and offer some tips on how to own your story so that it inspires yourself and others. We also hear about Yas’s grandmother’s “candy boobs,” put out a plea for everyone to re-watch the movie Clue, and learn that both co-hosts have purchased special tools for cutting their own hair.

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    Links mentioned in this episode:

    • “Finance Podcasts We Love” by Simple
    • Heather's "Rich Parents" video
    • “Rich Kids Stay Rich, Poor Kids Stay Poor” by fivethirtyeight.com
    • National Center for Education Statistics, "Postsecondary Attainment: Differences by Socioeconomic Status" (2015)
    • Socioeconomic Status" (2015)
    • Heather’s podcast How Did This Get Played?

    (016) Borrowing and Lending with Family and Friends: Wigglin’ (w/ Carl Tart) Aug 06, 2019
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    Comedian and actor Carl Tart (Brooklyn 99, Mad TV) stopped by our LA studio to talk all about borrowing and lending money with family and friends. Luckily, he’s a pro at helping out his loved ones and living his best life, so he shares some great ideas with Dara and Yasmine for negotiating interpersonal loans and setting boundaries with acquaintances in need.

    We’ve also got some insights into how social support works in immigrant communities and the impact that can have on generational wealth. As always, we keep it light with some purchases to help keep our wardrobes fresh (in more ways than one), a debate on the term “sportsball,” and cues from teenagers on when it’s time to stop living at home with mom.

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    Links mentioned in this episode:

    • The Financial Diaries
    • Black Tax article
    • Carl Tart on Twitter
    • Carl Tart on Instagram
    • Carl Tart at UCB
    • Carl Tart on Earwolf

    (015) Biweekly Pay: We Math Excellent (w/ Zeke Nicholson) Jul 30, 2019
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    Turn down your cathartic, bleak music and listen to our chat with writer/comedian Zeke Nicholson (AP Bio, Miracle Workers). This week’s topic is thriving on paychecks that arrive two weeks apart. We walk you through creating a budget that works for you, step-by-step, including some treats to help motivate you along the way. Did you know you can reschedule due dates on some of your bills? It’s news for some of us, too!

    Dara, Yasmine and Zeke also share stories of times their biweekly paychecks weren’t quite enough. We’ve got stories about startups running out of cash, tips that fell short of making rent and $100 holds on rentable bikes. There’s a lot of talk about jorts and swimsuits ‘cause it’s summer in LA, ya’ll! There’s also some talk about dressing like a liberal arts professor at Sarah Lawrence, but we’re pretty sure that’s a year-round thing...

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    • Zeke Nicholson on Twitter
    • Zeke Nicholson on Instagram
    • Zeke Nicholson’s @ UCB

    (014) Gender Income Gap: Ask for Everything (w/ Tawny Newsome) Jul 23, 2019
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    Dara + Yasmine kick off a few weeks in LA this week by talking all things gender wage gap with Yo, Is This Racist? co-host and star of Brockmire, Tawny Newsome. We’ve got a starfish callback and a check-in on Dara’s quest to get a good night's rest, plus some tasty dishing about Meryl Streep, Laura Dern and all the rest of the Big Little Lies gang.

    Things get a little emotional as we dig into how disparities in pay between women and men hurt women of color the most, but we bounce back with some great ideas on how to make sure you’re getting paid what you’re worth. Spoiler alert: it involves making like the US women’s national soccer team and talking about compensation with your colleagues.

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    Links mentioned in this episode:

    • HBR article about women receiving vague feedback
    • Gender pay gap facts from Pew
    • Pew on how racial pay gaps persist
    • Pew on measurable reasons for gender pay gap
    • Pew on unmeasurable factors like gender-based discrimination
    • The Good Fight on CBS All Access
    • Tawny Newsome’s website
    • Tawny Newsome on Twitter
    • Tawny Newsome on Instagram

    (013) FOMO Spending: Flipper the Script (w/ Natasha Muse) Jul 16, 2019
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    Comedian Natasha Muse is in the studio to talk with Dara and Yasmine about FOMO spending—shelling out cash for cool experiences you may not be able to afford. Those experiences may involve Instagrammable trips to the Amalfi Coast, boozy brunches with friends, meetups that require a car, or even artisanal beef jerky. We also brainstorm cheap ways to have a fun time and experience the joy of missing out (JOMO).

    With this many funny femmes in one room saying things the British way, it does get a little goofy this week with a debate on iOS versus Android, a remix of the Jaws theme song, a discussion of how social media scrolling can turn into spending, and a heartfelt shoutout to PBS’ Arthur (and Ziggy Marley, natch).

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    Links mentioned in this episode:

    • Natasha Muse
    • Natasha's Webiste
    • Credit Karma Study
    • Wholesome memes on Twitter
    • Emotional Club on Instagram
    • Interactive social media makes you feel better
    • Happy Endings

    (012) Money Buddies: Bubbly Fun Days (w/ Sipiwe Moyo) Jul 09, 2019
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    Orange is the New Black actor Sipiwe Moyo is our first ever call-in guest on this very chill, very holistic, slightly serious chat about money buddies: the friends who keep us accountable for our financial goals. We break down how to choose your buddy, how to track your progress, when to celebrate your accomplishments and much more.

    Don’t get it twisted, there’s still plenty of silliness to be had even though we’re talking about heavy stuff like vulnerability, the importance of deep listening, grief goggles and figuring out what’s standing in the way of our personal growth. There’s a reindeer debate redux, a one-person role play and lots of laughs as Dara, Yasmine and Sipiwe swap strategies.

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    Links mentioned in this episode:

    • 5 Steps to an Effective Accountability Partnership, and 2 Things to Never Do
    • For the Love of Money
    • Sipiwe Moyo on Instagram
    • [Orange is the New Black on Netflix] (https://www.netflix.com/title/70242311?source=35)

    (011) Student Loans: More Syllables, More Commas (w/ Pendarvis Harshaw) Jul 02, 2019
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    Summer is finally here, so we’ve got Oakland-based educator and journalist Pendarvis Harshaw in the studio to talk about student loans. Today we’re focusing on folks who have student debt even though they couldn’t complete their four year degree. If this is you, don’t worry—Money Ha Ha is always a No Judgement Zone. We know that even when we make all the “right” choices when it comes to education, factors beyond our control have a huge impact on our student loan debt.

    If this sounds too serious, rest assured that we’re bringing the funny along with the facts. There’s an impression of Maya Rudolph on the Netflix show Big Mouth, lots of goodies in the mailbag, a convo on the importance of alone time for dads and a reframe on what our aspirational selves can look like (hint: it involves insoles for your shoes and sun hats). Plus, Yas, Dara and Pen compete to see whose expensive college degree title is the longest.

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    Links mentioned in this episode:

    • Stats on student loan defaults from CollegeBoard.org
    • Overview of Pew's research on student loan debt
    • Brené Brown’s Netflix special: Brené Brown: the Call to Courage
    • Pen on Twitter and Instagram
    • Pen’s radio show Rightnowish
    • Pen’s columns for KQED including one about student loans

    (010) Income Shocks: Ghosts in Our Throats Jun 25, 2019
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    Student loan snafus, layoffs, family illness—we could go on and on about the dozens of reasons you might experience an income shock. But we’d rather clue you in on how to handle your business when your paycheck falls short of expectations. Put on your emergency flats and get ready to throw a community resources potluck in comfortable style.

    Even though Yas didn’t invite Dara to brunch, it’s a real lovefest this week as Dara + Yas bond over their extreme crafting hot glue gun scars. They’re also pitting Digi Pets against tamagotchis and illegal dorm pets—oh my! Yas shares her multifaceted struggle with tone deafness, Dara reveals the secrets of the rainbow poop diet, and we have fun reminiscing about old screen names.

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    • 3 Big Questions with Dara Wilson and Yasmine Khan on Money, Shame, and Financial Wellness

    (009) Expensive Pets: Iguanas Matter Jun 18, 2019
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    Yas and Dara delve into the secret costs of pets this week—WOOF. Inviting a furry (or scaly) friend into your life can be a wonderful thing, but it can also trigger a lot of unexpected spending to keep your animal fam healthy and happy. We’re talking emergency vet trips, pet insurance, dog walkers, groomers and more.

    As usual, there’s plenty of singing, plus deep discussions of North Pole labor practices, how to handle human or feline anxiety, the vulnerability of love, narwhal swimming hazards, duck furniture (which shockingly has nothing to do with pets) and some great Mailbag contributions from our rad listeners.

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    Links mentioned in this episode:

    • Kiplinger, The True Cost of Owning a Pet
    • Money Under 30
    • Killing My Lobster

    (008) Needs vs. Wants: Humans Gonna Human (w/ JM Contreras) Jun 11, 2019
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    When it comes to spending smart, the most important thing is knowing the difference between things you need and things you want. Though there’s no hard-and-fast rule for what makes something a need vs. a want (it’s different for everybody), this week’s guest JM Contreras shares how you can use some tricks borrowed from cognitive neuroscience to tell the two apart and make sure you get the right amount of both.

    This week, nobody makes it out of the No-Judgement Zone without judging themselves a little bit—but the real judgement comes when Yas and JM throw some shade at experts who act like people with low incomes don’t deserve to spend anything on their wants. How rude!

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    Links mentioned in this episode:

    • The Sleep With Me podcast
    • Follow our guest JM Contreras @ContrerasPhD
    • More on the psychology of spending on needs vs. wants

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