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NEW: Colonial Parkway Murders Listener Questions (Part 1) Aug 30, 2021

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Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we answer your new listener questions in the Colonial Parkway Murders, still unsolved after nearly 35 years. This is part 1.
New Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zane
https://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48
New feature article in the Daily Beast:
"Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia’s Colonial Parkway Serial Killer"
https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killer
Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !
https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885
Othram featured case! We are getting close-- can you help with a financial contribution to help solved this case? Any amount will help. Just click on the DNAsolves.com link below. Thanks.
Bonneville County Sheriff’s Office Teams with Othram to Identify Bonneville County John Doe
https://dnasolves.com/articles/bonneville_county_john_doe/
Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:
"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/
New Story on Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"
Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomas
NYT: Two Montana Sweethearts Were Fatally Shot in 1956. The Case Was Just Solved.
The Cascade County Sheriff’s Office said it appeared to be the oldest homicide case in the United States to be solved with genetic genealogy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/us/great-falls-montana-2007-homicide-dna.html
Join "Mind Over Murder" at the Savannah Crime Expo on Saturday, September 25!
Details: https://savannahcrimeexpo.com/
Next year's CrimeCon will be held April 29-May 1, 2022 in Las Vegas. We will both be there!
Details: https://www.crimecon.com/cc22
Featured Case from Othram and DNAsolves.com:
"The Alberta Royal Canadian Mounted Police and OCME Partner with Othram
to Identify Septic Tank "
https://dnasolves.com/articles/septic_tank_sam/
You can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:
https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/support
Check out Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcast
Join the Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 13,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
4 new episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders
Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims
Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America’s Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy’s murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it’s entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/
Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.html
New Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
New Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning. Please share!
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

NEW: Fred Atwell: Colonial Parkway Criminal or Con Man? (Part 2) Aug 23, 2021

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Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we discuss the mystery of the late Fred Atwell in the Colonial Parkway Murders. While Atwell did the Parkway families a great service as a whistle-blower in publicizing the leak of 78 highly graphic crime scene photos in the Colonial Parkway Murders, this retired Gloucester County Deputy Sheriff was also a criminal and a con man. Now more than 2 years after his death, questions remain about Fred Atwell's knowledge of the facts in this still unsolved series of double homicides of young couples in Virginia. This is part 2 of 2 episodes on Fred Atwell.
Daily Press: Former deputy's death leaves Parkway victims' families wondering what he knew
https://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-nws-fred-atwell-death-1222-story.html
New feature article in the Daily Beast:
"Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia’s Colonial Parkway Serial Killer"
https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killer
Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !
https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885
Othram solves another case!
Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department and Othram Partner to Identify
1989 Murderer of Stephanie Isaacson
https://dnasolves.com/articles/stephanie_isaacson_murder/
Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:
"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/
New Story on Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"
Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomas
NYT: Two Montana Sweethearts Were Fatally Shot in 1956. The Case Was Just Solved.
The Cascade County Sheriff’s Office said it appeared to be the oldest homicide case in the United States to be solved with genetic genealogy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/us/great-falls-montana-2007-homicide-dna.html
Join "Mind Over Murder" at the Savannah Crime Expo on Saturday, September 25!
Details: https://savannahcrimeexpo.com/
Next year's CrimeCon will be held April 29-May 1, 2022 in Las Vegas. We will both be there!
Details: https://www.crimecon.com/cc22
Featured Case from Othram and DNAsolves.com:
"The Alberta Royal Canadian Mounted Police and OCME Partner with Othram
to Identify Septic Tank "
https://dnasolves.com/articles/septic_tank_sam/
You can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:
https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/support
Check out Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcast
Join the Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 13,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
4 new episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders
Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims
Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America’s Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy’s murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it’s entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/
Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.html
New Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
New Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning. Please share!
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

NEW: Fred Atwell: Colonial Parkway Criminal or Con Man? (Part 1) Aug 16, 2021

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Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we discuss the mystery of the late Fred Atwell in the Colonial Parkway Murders. While Atwell did the Parkway families a great service as a whistle-blower in publicizing the leak of 78 highly graphic crime scene photos in the Colonial Parkway Murders, this retired Gloucester County Deputy Sheriff was also a criminal and a con man. Now more than 2 years after his death, questions remain about Fred Atwell's knowledge of the facts in this still unsolved series of double homicides of young couples in Virginia. This is part 1 of 2 episodes on Fred Atwell.
Daily Press: Former deputy's death leaves Parkway victims' families wondering what he knew
https://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-nws-fred-atwell-death-1222-story.html
New feature article in the Daily Beast:
"Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia’s Colonial Parkway Serial Killer"
https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killer
Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !
https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885
Othram solves another case!
Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department and Othram Partner to Identify
1989 Murderer of Stephanie Isaacson
https://dnasolves.com/articles/stephanie_isaacson_murder/
Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:
"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/
New Story on Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"
Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomas
NYT: Two Montana Sweethearts Were Fatally Shot in 1956. The Case Was Just Solved.
The Cascade County Sheriff’s Office said it appeared to be the oldest homicide case in the United States to be solved with genetic genealogy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/us/great-falls-montana-2007-homicide-dna.html
Join "Mind Over Murder" at the Savannah Crime Expo on Saturday, September 25!
Details: https://savannahcrimeexpo.com/
Next year's CrimeCon will be held April 29-May 1, 2022 in Las Vegas. We will both be there!
Details: https://www.crimecon.com/cc22
Featured Case from Othram and DNAsolves.com:
"The Alberta Royal Canadian Mounted Police and OCME Partner with Othram
to Identify Septic Tank "
https://dnasolves.com/articles/septic_tank_sam/
You can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:
https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/support
Check out Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcast
Join the Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 13,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
4 new episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders
Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims
Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America’s Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy’s murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it’s entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/
Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.html
New Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
New Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning. Please share!
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

NEW: Annamaria Phelps and Daniel Lauer, the last Colonial Parkway Murder? Aug 09, 2021

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Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they review the facts in the 1989 double homicide of Annamaria Phelps and Daniel Lauer, two young people murdered as the drove from their family homes in Amelia County, Virginia to a new life in Virginia Beach. Somehow their car was intercepted along Interstate 64 in New Kent County, Virginia and they disappeared. Their bodies were found at a hunt club off I-64 some 6 weeks later. What happened? Why is this case still unsolved more than 30 years later? Is Patricia Cornwell's bestselling book "All That Remains" actually based on this case, and did the author have unauthorized access to confidential case files?
New feature article in the Daily Beast:
"Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia’s Colonial Parkway Serial Killer"
https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killer
Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !
https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885
Othram solves another case!
Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department and Othram Partner to Identify
1989 Murderer of Stephanie Isaacson
https://dnasolves.com/articles/stephanie_isaacson_murder/
Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:
"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/
New Story on Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"
Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomas
NYT: Two Montana Sweethearts Were Fatally Shot in 1956. The Case Was Just Solved.
The Cascade County Sheriff’s Office said it appeared to be the oldest homicide case in the United States to be solved with genetic genealogy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/us/great-falls-montana-2007-homicide-dna.html
Join "Mind Over Murder" at the Savannah Crime Expo on Saturday, September 25!
Details: https://savannahcrimeexpo.com/
Next year's CrimeCon will be held April 29-May 1, 2022 in Las Vegas. We will both be there!
Details: https://www.crimecon.com/cc22
Featured Case from Othram and DNAsolves.com:
"The Alberta Royal Canadian Mounted Police and OCME Partner with Othram
to Identify Septic Tank "
https://dnasolves.com/articles/septic_tank_sam/
You can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:
https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/support
Check out Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcast
Join the Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 13,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
4 new episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders
Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims
Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America’s Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy’s murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it’s entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/
Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.html
New Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
New Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning. Please share!
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

NEW: Othram's David Mittelman: How Cutting Edge DNA is Breaking Cold Cases Aug 02, 2021

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Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley interview David Mittelman, CEO of Othram, a cutting edge DNA lab in the Woodlands, Texas, which is breaking cold cases across the United States and Canada.
New feature article in the Daily Beast:
"Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia’s Colonial Parkway Serial Killer"
https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killer
Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !
https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885
Othram solves another case!
Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department and Othram Partner to Identify
1989 Murderer of Stephanie Isaacson
https://dnasolves.com/articles/stephanie_isaacson_murder/
Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:
"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/
New Story on Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"
Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomas
NYT: Two Montana Sweethearts Were Fatally Shot in 1956. The Case Was Just Solved.
The Cascade County Sheriff’s Office said it appeared to be the oldest homicide case in the United States to be solved with genetic genealogy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/us/great-falls-montana-2007-homicide-dna.html
Join "Mind Over Murder" at the Savannah Crime Expo on Saturday, September 25!
Details: https://savannahcrimeexpo.com/
Next year's CrimeCon will be held April 29-May 1, 2022 in Las Vegas. We will both be there!
Details: https://www.crimecon.com/cc22
Featured Case from Othram and DNAsolves.com:
"The Alberta Royal Canadian Mounted Police and OCME Partner with Othram
to Identify Septic Tank "
https://dnasolves.com/articles/septic_tank_sam/
You can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:
https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/support
Check out Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcast
Join the Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 13,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
4 new episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders
Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims
Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America’s Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy’s murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it’s entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/
Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.html
New Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
New Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning. Please share!
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

NEW: Robin Edwards and David Knobling in Colonial Parkway Murders (Part 2) Jul 26, 2021

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Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley review new information from interviews with family members Janette Edwards Santiago and Judy Knobling in the second of the Colonial Parkway Murders, the 1987 double homicide of Robin Edwards and David Knobling. Is this killing related to the other Colonial Parkway Murders? Why is this case unsolved after nearly 34 years? Can advanced forensics be used to solve this double murder?
New feature article in the Daily Beast:
"Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia’s Colonial Parkway Serial Killer"
https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killer
Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !
https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885
Othram solves another case!
Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department and Othram Partner to Identify
1989 Murderer of Stephanie Isaacson
https://dnasolves.com/articles/stephanie_isaacson_murder/
Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:
"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/
New Story on Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"
Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomas
NYT: Two Montana Sweethearts Were Fatally Shot in 1956. The Case Was Just Solved.
The Cascade County Sheriff’s Office said it appeared to be the oldest homicide case in the United States to be solved with genetic genealogy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/us/great-falls-montana-2007-homicide-dna.html
Join "Mind Over Murder" at the Savannah Crime Expo on Saturday, September 25!
Details: https://savannahcrimeexpo.com/
Next year's CrimeCon will be held April 29-May 1, 2022 in Las Vegas. We will both be there!
Details: https://www.crimecon.com/cc22
Featured Case from Othram and DNAsolves.com:
"The Alberta Royal Canadian Mounted Police and OCME Partner with Othram
to Identify Septic Tank "
https://dnasolves.com/articles/septic_tank_sam/
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4 new episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders
Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims
Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America’s Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy’s murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it’s entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/
Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.html
New Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
New Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
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Bonus: True Crime Media: Recommended Podcasts and TV Shows Jul 22, 2021

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Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley offer a bonus episode:
True Crime Media: Our Recommended Podcasts and TV Shows
Algorithm Podcast:
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-algorithm-83051915/
Confronting OJ Podcast:
https://wondery.com/shows/confronting/episode/5970-bonus-the-defenses-defense/
Confronting Columbine Podcast
https://wondery.com/shows/confronting/episode/5970-bonus-greg/
I'll Be Gone in the Dark (HBO Series)
https://www.hbo.com/ill-be-gone-in-the-dark
Bosch (Amazon Series)
https://www.hbo.com/ill-be-gone-in-the-dark
Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !
https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885
Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:
"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/
New Story on Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"
Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomas
NYT: Two Montana Sweethearts Were Fatally Shot in 1956. The Case Was Just Solved.
The Cascade County Sheriff’s Office said it appeared to be the oldest homicide case in the United States to be solved with genetic genealogy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/us/great-falls-montana-2007-homicide-dna.html
Join "Mind Over Murder" at the Savannah Crime Expo on Saturday, September 25!
Details: https://savannahcrimeexpo.com/
Next year's CrimeCon will be held April 29-May 1, 2022 in Las Vegas. We will both be there!
Details: https://www.crimecon.com/cc22
Featured Case from Othram and DNAsolves.com:
"The Alberta Royal Canadian Mounted Police and OCME Partner with Othram
to Identify Septic Tank "
https://dnasolves.com/articles/septic_tank_sam/
You can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:
https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/support
Check out Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcast
Join the Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 13,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
4 new episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders
Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims
Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America’s Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy’s murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it’s entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/
Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.html
New Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
New Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
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All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions

David Knobling, Colonial Parkway Murders Victim: His Mother Remembers Jul 19, 2021

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Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by Judy Knobling, mother of murder victim David Knobling as they discuss the second of the Colonial Parkway Murders, the 1987 double homicide of Robin Edwards and David Knobling. Is this killing the second in a serial murder, or an tragic independent event? Why is this case unsolved after nearly 34 years? Can advanced forensics be used to solve this double murder?
Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !
https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885
Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:
"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/
New Story on Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"
Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomas
NYT: Two Montana Sweethearts Were Fatally Shot in 1956. The Case Was Just Solved.
The Cascade County Sheriff’s Office said it appeared to be the oldest homicide case in the United States to be solved with genetic genealogy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/us/great-falls-montana-2007-homicide-dna.html
Join "Mind Over Murder" at the Savannah Crime Expo on Saturday, September 25!
Details: https://savannahcrimeexpo.com/
Next year's CrimeCon will be held April 29-May 1, 2022 in Las Vegas. We will both be there!
Details: https://www.crimecon.com/cc22
Featured Case from Othram and DNAsolves.com:
"The Alberta Royal Canadian Mounted Police and OCME Partner with Othram
to Identify Septic Tank "
https://dnasolves.com/articles/septic_tank_sam/
You can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:
https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/support
Check out Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcast
Join the Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 13,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
4 new episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders
Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims
Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America’s Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy’s murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it’s entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/
Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.html
New Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
New Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
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Robin Edwards, Colonial Parkway Murders Victim: Her Sister Remembers Jul 12, 2021

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Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley are joined by Robin Edwards' sister Janette Edwards Santiago as they discuss the second of the Colonial Parkway Murders, the 1987 double homicide of Robin Edwards and David Knobling. Is this killing the second in a serial murder, or an tragic independent event? Why is this case unsolved after nearly 34 years? Can advanced forensics be used to solve this double murder?
Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !
https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885
Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:
"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/
New Story on Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"
Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomas
NYT: Two Montana Sweethearts Were Fatally Shot in 1956. The Case Was Just Solved.
The Cascade County Sheriff’s Office said it appeared to be the oldest homicide case in the United States to be solved with genetic genealogy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/us/great-falls-montana-2007-homicide-dna.html
Join "Mind Over Murder" at the Savannah Crime Expo on Saturday, September 25!
Details: https://savannahcrimeexpo.com/
Next year's CrimeCon will be held April 29-May 1, 2022 in Las Vegas. We will both be there!
Details: https://www.crimecon.com/cc22
Featured Case from Othram and DNAsolves.com:
"The Alberta Royal Canadian Mounted Police and OCME Partner with Othram
to Identify Septic Tank "
https://dnasolves.com/articles/septic_tank_sam/
You can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:
https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/support
Check out Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcast
Join the Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 13,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
4 new episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders
Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims
Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America’s Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy’s murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it’s entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/
Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.html
New Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
New Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
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BONUS: True Crime News: Bill Cosby and Slenderman Outrage Jul 08, 2021

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Join co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley for this bonus episode of Mind Over Murder's "True Crime News." This week, true crime outrage as convicted serial rapist Bill Cosby is released from prison thanks to another sweetheart deal from a prosecutor (jeffrey Epstein, anyone?), and one of the two teenage perpetrators in the Slender Man case gets out of a mental health facility after serving on 3.5 years-- after trying to stab her 12 year old classmate to death.
NPR: "Questions Linger After Bill Cosby's Conviction Was Overturned"
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/01/1012065479/questions-linger-after-bill-cosbys-conviction-was-overturned
NY Times: "Teenager in ‘Slender Man’ Stabbing Is Ordered Released From Mental Hospital"
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/01/us/slender-man-stabbing-anissa-weier-released.html
Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !
https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885
Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:
"The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/
New Story on Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"
Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.
https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomas
NY Times : "Two Montana Sweethearts Were Fatally Shot in 1956. The Case Was Just Solved"
The Cascade County Sheriff’s Office said it appeared to be the oldest homicide case in the United States to be solved with genetic genealogy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/us/great-falls-montana-2007-homicide-dna.html
Join "Mind Over Murder" at the Savannah Crime Expo on Saturday, September 25!
Details: https://savannahcrimeexpo.com/
Next year's CrimeCon will be held April 29-May 1, 2022 in Las Vegas. We will both be there!
Details: https://www.crimecon.com/cc22
Featured Case from Othram and DNAsolves.com:
"The Alberta Royal Canadian Mounted Police and OCME Partner with Othram
to Identify Septic Tank "
https://dnasolves.com/articles/septic_tank_sam/
You can contribute to help "Mind Over Murder" do our important work:
https://mindovermurderpodcast.com/support
Check out Mind Over Murder on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mindoverpodcast
Join the Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 13,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase
4 new episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders
Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years" https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims
Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America’s Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy’s murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it’s entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/
Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: "The Parkway" http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.html
New Colonial Parkway Murders website: https://colonialparkwaymurders.com
New Mind Over Murder Podcast website: https://mindovermurderpodcast.com
Please subscribe and rate us at your favorite podcast sites. Ratings and reviews are very important. Please share and tell your friends!
We launch a new episode of "Mind Over Murder" every Monday morning.
Sponsors: Othram and DNAsolves.com
Contribute Your DNA to help solve cases: https://dnasolves.com/user/register
Follow "Mind Over Murder" on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MurderOver
Follow Bill Thomas on Twitter: https://twitter.com/BillThomas56
Follow "Colonial Parkway Murders" on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase/
Follow us on InstaGram:: https://www.instagram.com/colonialparkwaymurders/
Check out the entire Crawlspace Media network at http://crawlspace-media.com/
All rights reserved. Mind Over Murder, Copyright Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley,
Another Dog Productions/Absolute Zero Productions
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/mind-over-murder--4847179/support.

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