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    Cooked or Still Cooking? | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions Apr 10, 2025
    Show notes

    Ask Messari Copilot: What are the most promising models for scaling DePIN infrastructure?

    See Copilot's Response: https://messari.io/copilot/share/scaling-deepin-infrastructure-models-ffbd3d95-53c1-4cdc-98cd-58d36f43250a


    In this week’s episode, the Messari Research team breaks down the latest market narratives—from DePIN’s growing pains to macro risks and app consolidation on Solana. We’re talking tariff chaos, Circle’s IPO delay, gaming tokenomics, and what we’re actually doing onchain during all the volatility.


    The Analysts Discuss:

    📡 DePIN Revenue: Can protocols like Helium, GEODNET, and Glowe scale?

    📉 Macro: Tariffs, market uncertainty, and crypto relative strength

    🏦 Circle IPO: Why it got delayed and what that means for stablecoins

    🧬 Solana: Super apps, vertical integration, and the memecoin washout

    🎮 Gaming: Token design, GUN launch fallout, and consolidation

    🔬 Infra: MegaETH testnet and why infra still matters

    🧪 Onchain Life: What the team’s farming, testing, and feeding (yes, Mega E-fluffs)


    00:00 Introductions

    1:06 Tariff Fallout

    12:16 Circle IPO Delay

    19:30 Superapp Thesis

    28:07 State of Gaming

    32:03 Cycle Analysis

    38:22 DePIN Tokenomics

    44:30 Current Interests

    53:28 Conclusion


    Hosted by Matthew Nay of Messari


    Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCrypto

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    This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.


    The Meta Got Too Smart: Now What? | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions Mar 24, 2025
    Show notes

    Ask Messari Copilot "Which protocols have shown the strongest fundamentals this cycle despite underperforming in price?"

    https://messari.io/copilot/share/evaluating-protocol-fundamentals-9ada2e1c-b1e5-4cd7-be67-dc24f483a0dc


    In this episode, the Messari Enterprise team sits down for a candid conversation on where we are in the crypto market cycle—and where we might be headed.


    We dive into:

    🧠 How the market became too self-aware and what that means for future participation

    📉 Why ETH and altcoins are underperforming—even with a strong BTC ETF backdrop

    🏦 The real role of Bitcoin: risk-on asset or digital gold?

    🧪 Narrative fatigue, ETF skepticism, and the memecoin-to-perps trading migration

    🚀 What we're still bullish on: DPIN, Hyperliquid, product-led chains, and the long arc of self-custodyFrom macro outlooks and market structure to the memes that move markets, this is one of our most wide-ranging (and honest) conversations yet.


    The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.


    00:00 Intros

    01:12 Crypto Market Narratives & Trends

    10:55 Bitcoin & Ethereum Investment

    22:16 Blockchain & Infrastructure

    30:55 AI & Crypto Integration

    36:07 DeFi, Liquidity & Trading Strategies

    46:26 Future Predictions & Closing Thoughts



    Hosted by Dylan Bane of Messari


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    This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.


    Reinventing Online Privacy | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions Mar 13, 2025
    Show notes

    Join Anyone and Messari's Dylan Bane as they explore the future of decentralized online privacy.


    Anyone is building the largest internet-routing DePIN in the world: a modular privacy layerfor any application to use seamlessly.


    The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.


    Hosted by Dylan Bane


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    Revolutionizing EV Charging | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions Mar 12, 2025
    Show notes

    Join DeCharge Founder and CEO, Mohan Kuldeep Ponnada, Co-founder Dr. Prakash Kamaraj and Messari's Dylan Bane as they explore the future of energy: decentralized, autonomous, and on-chain.


    DeCharge is leading the charge—literally—by building a global network of smart, autonomous EV chargers. With deployments already active in the U.S., Europe, and Asia, DeCharge is creating the infrastructure needed to support the rise of autonomous vehicles, drones, and decentralized physical AI (DePAI).


    The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.


    Hosted by Dylan Bane


    Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCrypto

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    This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.


    Building Decentralized Physical AI | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions Feb 27, 2025
    Show notes

    Join FrodoBots Lab's Co-Founder Michael Cho and Messari's Dylan Bane and Kinji Steimetz as they explore how crypto-powered robotics and decentralized networks are unlocking real-world AI applications, from urban navigation to autonomous agents.


    Learn how decentralized physical AI is solving bottlenecks in data collection, model validation, and hardware scalability—and why this space could be the next big wave in crypto.The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.


    00:00 Intros

    02:20 About Frodo and DePIN

    04:28 Understanding Robotics & AI

    19:18 Reward Incentives

    24:21 Future of Robotics & AI

    36:33 Challenges & Adoption

    44:11 Data Collection & Validation


    Hosted by Dylan Bane and Kinji Steimetz of Messari


    Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCryptoFollow Unqualified Opinions on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0uG5qpwFg67zTt0VQRTaZ7?si=13163cbebe01415eFollow Unqualified Opinions on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/messaris-unqualified-opinions/id1455666979


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    This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.


    The Evolution of Proof of Location and Decentralized Data With XYO | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions Feb 13, 2025
    Show notes

    Join Markus Levin (Co-Founder of XYO) and Messari's Dylan Bane as they explore the evolution of proof of location and decentralized data verification.


    Discover how XYO is bridging real-world data with blockchain through its proof-of-origin technology and vast global node network. Learn how the protocol is tackling challenges in location spoofing, tokenomics, and user adoption while scaling to new use cases like AI, gaming, and physical systems.


    The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.


    00:00 Intros

    01:13 Protocol and Background

    08:05 Data & Technology Trends

    09:40 Tokenomics & Governance

    17:19 User Experience (UX) & Adoption

    20:19 Building on L1s and Future Plans

    23:13 AI & Physical Systems


    Hosted by Dylan Bane of Messari


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    This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.


    PayFi Deep Dive With Huma and Solana | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions Feb 12, 2025
    Show notes

    Join Messari's CEO, Eric Turner, alongside Richard Liu (Co-Founder & Co-CEO of Huma Finance) and Lily Liu (President of Solana Foundation) as they explore the transformative potential of PayFi in crypto and traditional finance.


    Discover how decentralized finance is reshaping cross-border payments, payment financing, and real-world financial applications. Learn why PayFi is more than just fast and cheap transactions—it's the future of a global, decentralized financial ecosystem.


    Read the full PayFi report:


    The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.


    00:30 Intros

    09:35 PayFi

    17:33 Solana

    26:23 Arf

    34:39 Future


    Hosted by Eric Turner of Messari


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    This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.


    Disrupting Cloud Computing: Meet io.net Jan 29, 2025
    Show notes

    Ask Messari Copilot "How could io.net's model impact cloud computing costs for businesses?"

    https://messari.co/4jBFZgo


    Tory Green, io.net's Co-Founder and CEO, join Messari Enterprise Analyst, Dylan Bane to discuss io.net and cloud computing.


    io.net is revolutionizing the $2.5 trillion cloud computing industry by creating a decentralized network of underutilized GPUs. Think "Airbnb for compute power." Their innovative approach offers virtually unlimited scalability, lower costs (up to 10x cheaper), and improved performance. Backed by an impressive network of 300,000 GPUs and partnerships across 130 countries, io.net is making waves in AI, decentralized infrastructure, and beyond.


    The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.


    00:52 Introduction to io.net & Its Purpose

    05:29 Advantages of Decentralized Compute

    13:15 io.net Token System

    12:20 Partnerships & Collaborations

    19:03 AI Agents & Compute Demand

    21:50 Future Goals & Vision


    Hosted by Dylan Bane of Messari


    Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCrypto

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    This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.


    TRON's 2025 Vision with Justin Sun: Stablecoins, AI, and Growth Jan 28, 2025
    Show notes

    Ask Messari Copilot "How will the adoption of USDD V2 and other innovations on Tron shape the network’s role in 2025?"

    https://messari.io/copilot/share/future-of-tron-in-2025-e672ab43-3f6c-4309-b1c3-1b95f6842df8


    Tron Founder Justin Sun joins Messari CEO Eric Turner to discuss Tron's Q4 achievements, including its 35% revenue growth and the burn of 415 million TRX making it deflationary.


    Check out Messari's TRON Portal at tron.messari.io


    Justin shares exciting updates on the launch of USDD V2, the role of AI agents in blockchain, and how Tron is positioning itself for long-term growth amidst a shifting regulatory landscape. They also discuss the importance of stablecoins, meme coins, and how innovation continues to drive adoption in the crypto space.


    The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.


    00:37 Introduction

    03:22 Stablecoin

    06:50 Memecoin

    10:38 U.S. Election

    15:40 Future



    Hosted by Eric Turner of Messari


    Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCrypto

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    This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.


    Inside the PayFi Ecosystem Driving $2.8 Billion in Transactions with Huma Finance Jan 23, 2025
    Show notes

    Ask Messari Copilot "What are the most promising opportunities in PayFi's future?" https://messari.io/copilot/share/exploring-payfi-s-future-opportunities-7240fa12-317e-4f2a-b764-d1787fe3e59a


    Erbil Karaman, Huma Finance's Co-Founder and Tomer Weller, Stellar's CPO, join Messari CEO, Eric Turner, to discuss the PayFi Ecosystem and recently published Messari report.


    Discover the PayFi ecosystem and its potential to revolutionize global payments, financing, and cross-border transactions. This conversation delves into real-world use cases, the PayFi stack, and the role of stablecoins and DeFi in shaping financial innovation. Tune in to hear more about the potential of blockchain to create seamless, efficient, and scalable payment systems.


    00:00 Intros

    02:53 What is Stellar?

    04:17 What is PayFi?

    06:42 Cross-border Payments and Stablecoins

    11:54 Stablecoin & RWA Adoption

    23:34 DeFi & PayFi Relationship

    28:00 Most Exciting PayFi Use Case

    33:56 Challenges and Headwinds

    36:02 What is Arf?

    39:20 Future

    43:33 Ecosystem announcements



    Hosted by Eric Turner of Messari


    Follow Messari on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MessariCrypto

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    This episode and its contents do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Messari, Inc. Hosts and guests may hold cryptocurrencies discussed in this content. This content is meant for informational purposes only. It is not meant to serve as investment advice. You should conduct your own research, and consult an independent financial, tax, or legal advisor before making any investment decisions. Nothing contained in this content is a recommendation or suggestion, directly or indirectly, to buy, sell, make, or hold any investment, loan, commodity, or security, or to undertake any investment or trading strategy with respect to any investment, loan, commodity, security, or any issuer. This content should not be construed as an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy any security or commodity. Messari does not guarantee the sequence, accuracy, completeness, or timeliness of any information provided in this content.


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