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jD is back and he's joined by Patrick from middle America to discuss the 48th song on the Top 50 countdown.Transcript:Track 2:[0:00] Previously on the pavement top 50 track number 49 best friend's arm dan what are your thoughts, oh man well this um this this this track was really my introduction to wowie zowieum i didn't own it at the time and um my friend andy used to have it and uh out of all the tracks i used to make this and put this on repeatedly uh say we used to sit on the floor and listen toit and i I used to roll around kind of, I wasn't exactly laughing, but it's just like, I just couldn't get over how mad and how fun that track is.Welcome.Track 4:[0:43] Nustanovich from Pavement and now on with a countdown.Hey, it's JD here back for another episode of our Top 50 Countdown for Seminole Indie Rock Band, Pavement.Week over week, we're going to count down the 50 essential pavement tracks that you selected with your very own top 20 ballots.I tabulated the results using an advanced abacus, and all that's left is for us to reveal this week's track number 48.How will your favorite track fare in the ranking? You'll need to tune in, or whatever the podcast equivalent of tuning in is to find out.This week we're joined by pavement superfan patrick from middle america so there's that, how are you doing motherfucker i'm doing so well thank you so much for having me uh youryour podcast helped me through the pandemic for sure so oh dude that's so nice to hear you say uh you know sometimes i feel like i'm just talking into a microphone because it's i don'thave a i I don't have a co-host for this podcast, but now I do now with the top 50, I've got a different pot, a different podcast co-host every week.And that's kind of cool that I'm getting to meet some people, but I appreciate that.Happy to be here. I like your beanie.[2:00] I'm wearing a black one. You're wearing a bright, like it's almost a few shop. Is it red? It's orange.It's orange. Yeah. Orange. Yeah.I like it. I have several because I live in cold areas. so.[2:16] So whereabouts in middle America do you hail, if you want to reveal it?Yeah, currently I'm in Des Moines, Iowa.Oh, okay. I recently just vacated from St. Paul, Minnesota.So I was tricking myself into believing I could have an apartment in two different towns.[2:38] So now I'm just in Des Moines right now. But Minneapolis, St.Paul is probably where I would want to be, I guess. Yeah, it's a nice city.Yeah, nice twin cities, I suppose.It's the best up there. So but I'm in Des Moines currently. Is Des Moines where Bob was? Yeah, former home of Bob Nesanovic. Yeah.Okay, I thought he was from there. Yep, I was. I've been, you know, if you're a pavement fan and you're in Des Moines and you're running sound at a music venue and you go down thestairs and then you see a guy from your third favorite band standing at the bar uh you uh you definitely go and buy him a beer and then if you buy yeah if you buy bob mistanovich a beernext thing you know you're over at his house hanging out and he's telling stories about the beastie boys or something so i have no fucking way yeah yeah so um yeah my origin story withpavement is strange because they were my favorite band when I was 16 years old.And then, you know, when I was in my lower thirties, we were getting to open for them on their reunion tour.And Bob's singing on my old band Seven Inch because he just is in Des Moines.And if you're a Pavement fan in Des Moines, you're bound to bump into Bob and then you're bound to be buddies with him.[4:02] Dude, you got to tell me more about this. Let's go. Dig in. All right.You're opening for Pavement.Let's talk about this. And he's singing on your seven inch. Let's talk about this.Okay. Uh, well, I, when, like I said, when I was 16 years old, 15, 16 in the mid nineties, uh, you know, payment was one of my favorite bands.You know, they've, they've always been in my top three favorite bands ever.And I finally got to see them on the last tour in 99 at the Vic theater in Chicago.Chicago, and I drove from Ames, Iowa of, and I was seven hours early to the show, hoping that I could be, uh, first in line.Uh, I was not first in line. I was third in line.Uh, but I met some really cool people, uh, standing in line for seven hours and I got to meet everybody in payment cause they were walking out from their soundcheck and everything.So, uh, but it was hilarious. I was just telling this story the other day to somebody, buddy.The girl who was first in line had just gotten a star tattoo, like the stars that are on like the terror twilight, uh, album cover on the inside.[5:13] And so she had a star idea. And of course, when mall, although all the band had walked out from soundcheck and they were all very sweet and talkative to everybody and meetingeverybody.And then Malkmus walks out and I've never seen anything so cool in my life.You know, I'm like 19 years old and I'm like freaking out.He's got like no shirt on he's eating a banana and he just like has this aura of like oh my god you know there he is uh of cool and of course like the the girl with the tattoo was all like ohhey hey check out my you know and so when they came out on stage that night right away he gets the microphone of course it's me and that girl and the other people are standing in frontof the line like right up front in front of him and he just like looks down at her and he's like pointing at the tattoo you you know, so yeah.[6:04] Uh, but that show was incredible. So that was the only time I ever got to see them when they were like in, uh, in their real time.Right. You know, October 15th, 1999 Vic theater, $15 ticket of, I think the sea and cake opened.Uh, and they were just incredible. You know, I think the songs from Tara Twilight, uh, you know, cause that album was like a, like a little bit of more of a slow burn for me.Because you know it's so different compared to everything that came before yeah of which i absolutely worshipped and drove around small town iowa listening to over and over and overagain everything like the b-sides all of it of and then seeing the terror twilight songs live they just really kind of like exploded like the hex or something like that live was just likeincredible, and i think those songs really on the reunion tours were really great too uh so fast forward.[7:03] Many years to when Bob moved to Des Moines and I did, I ran into him one night, uh, working at a music venue and he was there with, uh, Whitney, his, you know, then wife orwhatever, or yeah.And, uh, they, um, they were so cool, you know, like whatever we, I ended up like bringing them to a different bar after the show that they were at.And we drank until the night of was young.And I drove 30 miles back to my home, but I was like, oh my God, Bob's in, Bob's in Des Moines, you know?And, uh, and he's just so personable and he's like the greatest storyteller ever.And if you're a pavement fan, you can really feed into his, uh, storytelling.Cause you, you know, like you ask the questions and he's so honest, you know, like, it'd be like, just like tell it how it is.So I got to hear many, many, many, many wonderful pavement stories.[7:58] And then fast forward years later, my band, sorry for that noise, work noise, my old band was doing an epic tour of 284 shows in like a 13-month period.Holy shit. And we were sitting in a coffee shop in Bozeman, Montana.We get a call from our booking agent and he's like, you ain't going to believe this, but I got a call from Pavement's booking agency and they'd like you to open up for them in Kansas Cityon September 11th, 2010 or whatever.And so Pavement is like the band that our band, it's like the one that like, you know, everybody in the band agrees on like that they're like the perfect band right just interrupt you for amoment what's the name of your band uh that band was called the poison control center the poison control center okay and and it's so interesting because like you know when i was 16years old and i was starting my first band ever pavement was the band that made me believe i could like be in a band you know what i mean because they're like they're like one of thosethose bands that like, if you're listening to whatever, like the early Peel Sessions.[9:12] Or like Slanton Enchanted, which is like my favorite Pavement record, all that early stuff, it's so loose and so magical and so clever and fun that if you're a high school band andyou're just trying to like make up songs as you go, but you're kind of just like banging it out and you don't really know how to play, all of a sudden it's like you can listen to your tape backthat you made on a karaoke machine with your buds and you're like it kind of sounds like pavement you know but pavement we're just like screwing around you're like drunk or havingfun and you're like trying really hard to like you know you know do stuff like that to be like oh you know so they were like the band that made me believe i could be in a band, and so soso we got word that they asked us to open for them and of course you know we're like losing it. Of course.And Kansas City is very close to kind of our home town of a band, even though we all lived in separate towns, kind of like Pavement, of...So of course we said yes. And then like pretty much booked our whole fall around being in Kansas city to open for them on September 11th, 2010.[10:26] And it was incredible. And it was all Bob's doing, you know, it was Bob who's like, Hey, there's this band in Des Moines that I'm like buddies with now who love us and would be agreat opening band.And they're on this epic tour of, and they're putting out two records this year and this would be really really big for them.And, uh, it was so incredible. You know, in my, I always, I always think back to it because my older sister lived in Kansas city at the time, and she got pregnant when she was 19 years old.And so she'd never really been to like a real concert in her entire life.And so she's whatever, 30 some years old at this time, she's had three kids or whatever.[11:06] And so she was there with my younger sister who also lived in Kansas City at the time and whatever we play our set and it's amazing it's so fun it's so great you know whateverwe're playing to 2400 people in a theater oh who all paid like 56 bucks you know and the night before we were playing some house show to like 20 people and the night after we'replaying some DIY space to like 15 people so 2400 is a is a little difference and but my older sister was there and I was like I gotta go make sure I get my sisters and like bring them thembackstage and the VIP section so they can see up close and up front and I go grab my older sister and she's like whatever they they kick off the show by playing range life and she's like Iknow this one I know this one and then whatever they got back in the VIP section and I think they both ate some cake with weed in it or something and had the night of their lives so ohman what What an experience.Yeah. So little like whatever 16 year old Patrick, who's, you know, favorite band was pavement.So 15 years later, I was going to get to open for them.[12:14] Uh, and that was amazing. And then, then later, um, after that tour, you know, I kind of started a new band and I was going to put out this seven inch.And I asked Bob, if he wanted to come and like, whatever, do Bob, Bob, on it.And, and he did. And I was like, you know, you can do whatever you want and he goes i have this list of imaginary horse names like if i was gonna of buy new horses or whatever i was ihave a list of could i yell the horse names that i would and i'm like of course you know so he's like yelling random you know horse names on the end of this song or whatever oh fuckingcool so but then also bob wrote a song uh he went he wrote this song about like he wanted to write like a sports arena anthem because he's a big sports guy, And, uh, he asked me to recordit. So we recorded it in my like spare bedroom of my apartment at the time.Uh, but we spent like 45 minutes on it. You know what I mean?We didn't like spend any time on it.And I'm just like, well, I can just make you a, a burn you a CD of this or whatever.He's like, yeah, yeah, great, great. You know, whatever.And and i was like yeah but we can work on it more we we hardly got anything on this you know and he's like yeah yeah this is fine and then he like took it and then he's like never henever like came back to work on it more.[13:41] I've heard him on a different podcast talking about that that one song he wrote or whatever, um so so i so i've been very grateful and lucky to have lived in a town with a guy fromyou know know my third favorite band of all time you know whatever so well i gotta ask because you just said it you're bearing the lead what are what are one and two uh my number onefavorite band of all time is the olivia tremor control of who i don't know if you know but they're like a band not the 90s they're in like the 116 collective of kind of lo-fi kind of like thebeatles time so like neutral milk hotels sort of yeah yeah jeff from neutral milk hotel was like went to high school with the two two lead guys of olivia tremor control um but it's it's it'sway more beetle-esque and poppy than like neutral milk fine but it's like produced by robert schneider of the apples and stereo so all that kind of e6 stuff um so they're my favorite bandever and then a little band called the beetles i guess comes in at number two and then i think i've heard of them yeah one time i they're from britain right yeah one time i opened for spiraluh stairs on on a tour of his uh in davenport iowa and i was i started the show by being like you know.[15:05] You know i was just like making you know jokes and stuff and i was like and from the third greatest band of all time spiral stairs is here you know like and everybody's like thethird third greatest.Come on, man. It's like, there's a third greatest.That's pretty good. Right. It is objective. It is very objective.I get the sense that you have like some sort of spreadsheet, uh, you know, uh, rounding this out. Yeah.I'm one of those guys who, who, if I meet somebody, I'm like, so what's your favorite movie?And they're like, Oh, I can't, I can't name a favorite. I'm like, how can you not have a favorite movie or a favorite band or, you know yeah but it's you know it changes you know like youtalking about having a list of your favorite pavement songs of course I would have a few that of course would be up in the top five but everything else is probably like however you'refeeling right because they have so many I think so so many different um.[15:59] So many different kinds of songs.I re-listened to a couple of your podcasts to get ready for this.And I listened to your episode on Finn, because I love that song so much.And I was the one who submitted a song for your first like...For the first pod list? Yeah.And so I did Finn under the band name Dog Dream.Because my partner at the time, whenever I fell asleep on the couch, she said it looked like i was dog dreaming so i did finn on that one and i loved your i just loved your episode on thatbecause i think you like hit it so in the head of like how that was could have been like the epitaph of th…
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