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Get ready for a delectable experience with Meat + Three, your bi-weekly serving of food stories and commentary served up by the talented Fellows at Heritage Radio Network (HRN). Inspired by the Southern tradition of a hearty main dish and three sides, this podcast offers a deep dive into the latest food trends, the socio-cultural impact of food, and personal narratives about our relationships with what we eat and drink.

Powered by the HRN Fellowship program, Meat + Three serves as a vibrant platform for our seasonally-rotating contributors to share their insights and stories, ensuring a diverse range of voices and perspectives. Join us as we explore the food systems landscape, uncovering what’s happening in the world right now.

Meat + Three is proudly brought to you by HRN, a Brooklyn-based nonprofit dedicated to fostering a more equitable, sustainable, and delicious world through its array of over 25 weekly food shows.

This program is supported, in part, by the Julia Child Foundation for Gastronomy and the Culinary Arts as well as public funds from the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs, in partnership with the City Council.

Hosted by Taylor Early and H Conley.

Latest Episodes:

The Grass is Greener Sep 28, 2018

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We decided it was high time we did an episode about Mary Jane. Over the past few years, the legal cannabis industry has been blooming in states across the nation. From recreational use of marijuana, to the resurgence of hemp farming in the American South… weed is here to stay.

We begin our journey into the wide world of weed with an excerpt of a recent episode of Cutting the Curd. Host Diane Stemple speaks with cheese monger turned cannabis advisor, Christina Fleming, about the surprising similarities between selling two notoriously pungent products.

We follow up our cheese course with a drink! CBD is a non-psychoactive compound found in cannabis and it’s popping up left and right across the food and beverage world. Kat Johnson and Hannah Fordin take a trip over to Saxon & Parole in Manhattan to taste test a CBD cocktail.

We can't talk about cannabis without talking about efforts to legalize it in states across the US. It was a huge point of discussion during the New York democratic gubernatorial primary, and seemed to reflect some of the divisions within the democratic party right now. We take a look at the difference in rhetoric between incumbent Andrew Cuomo and the actor and activist Cynthia Nixon.

Finally, we turn to marijuana's cousin, hemp. In May of 2017, the South Carolina legislature passed its own hemp legislation, marking the start of the state’s industrial hemp pilot program. 20 farmers were selected from 130 applicants to each grow 20 acres of hemp. We hear from Sally McKay, the Communications Director at the South Carolina Department of Agriculture about the program, and from Nat Bradford, one of the farmers working to develop his own breedline of hemp.

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Feast Sep 21, 2018

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We're bringing you our highlights from Feast Portland – four days of delicious food and some very deep conversations in an airstream trailer. We begin with one of the most buzzed-about events at Feast Portland this year, Zero Proof, an alcohol-free dinner that brought together chefs including Andrew Zimmern and Michael Solomonov.

Next, we get an insider's look into the history of Portland's dining scene. How did it become the foodie mecca it is today? Elias Cairo of Olympia Provisions interviews one of his mentors, Monique Siu, a key figure in the Portland restaurant scene since she opened Zefiro in 1990.

Joining the HRN team on our trip out west were Andrew Friedman and Dana Cowin. Both of their shows, Andrew Talks to Chefs and Speaking Broadly, feature long-form, in-depth interviews with chefs and food industry insiders. For our Feast coverage, they helped us explore the intersections of food and identity with guests Rachel Yang, Diego Galicia, Rico Torres, and Reem Assil.

The more chefs talked about how their personal history and family ties shaped their culinary identities, the more we noticed that there was one theme that popped up quite a lot: the overwhelming influence of grandmothers. We hear from Emma Bengtsson, Kristen Murray, Maya Lovelace, Jill Keuhler, and Bonnie Morales. Each woman shares an inspiring story about how their grandmothers shaped their lives and culinary aspirations.

We end this week with a short excerpt of Dana Cowin's interview with Jim Meehan. Hear how Meehan envisions the future role of alcohol in restaurants and cocktail culture – especially with the rise of legalized cannabis. It got us wondering if the grass is greener on the other side... a topic we'll explore in next week's Meat + Three!

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Cookbooks Sep 14, 2018

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Do you remember the first cookbook you ever loved? Caity was enthralled by Rose Levy Berenbaum’s The Cake Bible when she was little and spent hours going through her gorgeous photos and awesome recipe names: Enchanted Forest, Strawberry Maria and Chocolate Chestnut Embrace.

Years later when she was a teenager, Caity's sister gave her a copy of The Best Recipes in the World by Mark Bittman, which inspired to learn about world cuisines by cooking at home and later fueled her plans to travel the world.

That’s the real magic of cookbooks. They can transform your home life, or take you on a trip a million miles away. October is National Cookbook month but we couldn’t wait to talk with a couple of our favorite authors.

Rose Levy Beranbaum joins us in the HRN studio, and we talk to our own Sother Teague of The Speakeasy about writing his debut book on his iPhone. Then, we take a closer look at a cookbook scandal that happened last month, and Liza Hamm stopped by the studio to discuss the latest crop of cookbooks with our resident expert, Cathy Erway, host of Eat Your Words on Heritage Radio Network.

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Football Sep 07, 2018

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When Kat said she wanted to do a whole episode about football, she got some skeptical looks from the rest of the Meat + Three team…. but by the end of this episode you’ll be just as fascinated by the role food plays on the gridiron as she is.

Before we go deep with a look into the diets of football players, we talk tailgating . Imagine hundreds of fans gathered around a stadium – beers in hand, smoke wafting off hundreds of grills, all in anticipation of the big game! We enlist Atlanta chefs Nick Leahy, Rusty Bowers, and Kevin Rathbun to share some of their tailgating pro-tips.

Starting with the NFL, we find out how pro players are using food to fuel their recoveries. Many athletes rely on the anti-inflammatory power of plants so much that they go all-in on a vegan diet. We hear from Chef Charity Morgan, a chef who feeds her husband (Derrick Morgan of the Tennessee Titans) and his teammates a plant-based meal plan. Scott Sehnert, the Director of Sports Performance and Sports Dietician for the Dallas Cowboys weighs in on the benefits of plants' phytochemicals in aiding players' recovery.

Next we move to college, where Mary Margaret McCartney (our intern-at-large) takes us inside of Auburn University's Wellness Kitchen, a $6.6 million, 10,000 square foot facility designed to provide its athletes with optimal nutrition. She speaks to Lauren Silvio, the Director of Sports Nutrition for Auburn Athletics, about how she works to educate the football team about what food is best to eat on and off campus.

And finally, our main story this week is about the largest group of football players in the US – the more than one million high school athletes. We speak to Scout Kirkland, a ninth grader playing football at Eufaula High School in Alabama, and his mom, Corey Kirkland, about advice he received when middle school coaches wanted him to 'bulk up.' It made us wonder: what advice should be given to high school athletes, and who should be giving it to them? To help answer this question, we turn to Laura Moretti, a Dietician for the Division of Sports Medicine and Orthopedics at Boston Children's Hospital.

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Special music in this episode provided by the Auburn University Marching Band, Director Corey Spurlin, and the Auburn University College of Liberal Arts.

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A New Class of Cooks Aug 24, 2018

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Tell the truth — do you know how to make arepas from scratch? Or know the difference between white and yellow corn? The kids at The Dynamite Shop do.

On this week’s bonus episode, we go behind the scenes at this week-long culinary summer camp and after-school program in Brooklyn that’s calling itself “Home Ec 2.0”.

Back in episode 9, "Youth," we talked about a number of organizations, like Seed Life Skills, taking on staid home economics curriculums. With The Dynamite Shop, co-founders Dana Bowen and Sara Kate Gillingham want to provide teens and 'tweens with the basic life skills every adult should have.

According to Bowen and Gillingham, food is one of the easiest ways to connect kids to the larger community around them. That's why The Dynamite Shop invites chefs and passionate home cooks from around the world to broaden the kids’ culinary horizons, not only by teaching them to make delicious dishes, but by engaging them in conversations about food history, food traditions... and the best way to make naturally-dyed rainbow arepas.

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Food as a Public Utility Aug 17, 2018

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This week, we have a bonus segment about what it takes to end hunger in America. Back on episode 10, we brought you a few highlights from our trip to Slow Food Nations. Many of you reached out about one segment in particular: a clip of our interview with John Ikerd. So this week, we bring you that interview in its entirety.

We first heard Ikerd speak at the Slow Food Leadership Summit, and became intrigued by one of his big ideas. He believes that there is a way to solve hunger in the U.S. It requires us to view food as a public utility and place a larger emphasis on human relationships.

Ikerd holds a PhD in Agricultural Economics from the University of Missouri, and his career focus was agricultural extension. In 1984, he became the director of Extension Agricultural Economics at the University of Georgia. However, in the 80s, his way of thinking began to shift. The US was experiencing a farm crisis, and Ikerd began to see failures of the policies he had been advocating to farmers. He reoriented his work towards sustainable agriculture and economics, and brought this outlook to the Land Grant system. He returned to the University of Missouri in 1989, under a cooperative agreement with the USDA, with a mission to develop research and educational programs related to sustainable agriculture.

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Farm to Market Aug 10, 2018

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For this "snack-sized" episode, we’re joining the Farmers Market Coalition to recognize National Farmers Market Week! This is a great time to talk speak with Ben Feldman, the Policy Director at FMC about farmers, because there is a ton of news about agricultural economics right now. But before we talk about local markets, we step back and take in the bigger picture.

On episode two of Meat + Three, we reported a story on tariffs and the escalating trade tensions between China and the U.S. – and how farmers were already feeling their effects. We spoke to Loren Puette of ChinaAg, a market intelligence company that focuses on the ag markets of China. At the time, he said we were far from being a full-fledged trade war, but this week we asked Loren "What about now? Has a trade war begun?"

His response was yes. “The trade dispute escalated into a full blown trade war on July 6th after both sides imposed 25% tariffs on a variety of imported goods. Chief among them were U.S. soybeans," wrote Puette.

We bring you a story about one of the biggest casualties of the trade war – a stranded cargo ship off the coast of China carrying soybeans worth $20 million.

Then, we explain how the "farmer bailout" that President Trump has proposed is set to provide temporary relief to commodity farmers, but will have little effect on specialty farmers that sell direct-to-consumer. On the other hand, Feldman explains that specialty farmers are able to weather economic fluctuations, because they get better prices on crops through direct sales.

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Age Aug 01, 2018

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It's the season finale of Meat + Three! A few weeks ago, we presented an episode about youth, so for this week’s theme, we’re flipping the script and focusing on age.

We start with a visit to one of Atlanta's most iconic landmarks, Hotel Clermont, which just re-opened! Meet the team behind the hotel's French brasserie, Tiny Lou's, and discover the fascinating history behind its name.

Hannah Fordin investigates what happens when it’s time for a chef to retire. In other career paths, you can count on your employer to help you plan ahead, but it rarely works that way in the restaurant industry. Helping Hannah tackle this subject matter is Andrew Friedman, who's interviewed hundreds of chefs – in all stages of their careers – for his show, Andrew Talks to Chefs, and book, Chefs, Drugs, and Rock & Roll.

Kat Johnson looks into trends related to the average age of the principal farm operators in the US, which has risen by about eight years (from 50 years old to 58) over the past three decades. To learn more about how this could impact the food supply, we hear from Lisa Held, the new host of The Farm Report.

We also have news about a food that turns out to be much older than we believed, as Jordan Werner Barry asks the question, "Is bread paleo now?"

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additional music:

Kevin MacLeod - "Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy"
Kevin MacLeod - "Pippin the Hunchback"
Kevin MacLeod - "Divertimento"
Kevin MacLeod - "The North"
Kevin MacLeod - "Unanswered Questions"

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Technology Jul 27, 2018

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This episode is inspired by a conversation that HRN’s Coral Lee had with Rupa Bhattacharya on Meant to be Eaten. Rupa is the new Editor-In-Chief of VICE’s food channel, Munchies. They dish about how Internet culture changed the food media landscape – for better and for worse – since Rupa’s early days at the Food Network.

Jennifer Leuzzi introduces us to a new ag-tech concept from episode 139 of her show, Tech Bites. Fast casual salad chains that boast a farm-to-counter ethos have been springing up all over the county, but a new concept called Harvest2Order actually brings the farm inside the restaurant. They’re serving salads of hydroponically grown greens, produced on LED-illuminated shelves displayed in the space.

Transforming the global food system doesn't just happen on land. It’s also taking to the seas. According to the World Bank, the Blue Economy is the sustainable use of ocean resources for economic growth, better jobs, and ocean ecosystem health. We hear from Mark Huang, the co-founder of SeaAhead, a New England based Blue Tech incubator, working with startups to revolutionize ocean-related businesses. He’s also putting together what he hopes will be the world’s first blue tech venture capital fund.

Finally, we love hearing about all the ways technology can improve food system, but it also made us wonder if food has ever helped advance technology? We meet Steven Ceron, a first-year PhD student at Cornell University. He's using the properties of popcorn in his soft robotics research to create a gripping force. Who says science can't be delicious?!

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Slow Food Jul 20, 2018

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We're back from Slow Food Nations – a festival of flavor, culture and exploration organized by Slow Food USA. This year's gathering focused on identifying tangible solutions to problems in the food system and developing specific actionable items for positive change.

Towards the end of the festival, the Slow Food International press office sent an email with the subject line “Slow Food Nations embraces equity, inclusion and justice in food.” It outlined Slow Food USA’s formal commitment to food justice and dismantling structures that perpetuate inequity and exclusion. It just so happens that it intersects nicely with HRN's mission of making the world more equitable, sustainable, and delicious….

Today, we bring you three interview excerpts that embody the new Slow Food USA manifesto:

EQUITY: John Ikerd holds a PhD in Agricultural Economics and spent much of his career at Land Grant Universities. He believes that there is a way to solve the issue of equity. It requires us to view food as a public utility and place a larger emphasis on human relationships.

INCLUSION: Adrian Miller served as the Deputy Director of President Bill Clinton’s Initiative for One America – the first free-standing White House office in history to examine and focus on closing the opportunity gaps that exist for minorities in this country. After leaving the White House, Adrian became a writer focusing on soul food – using his expertise to elevate voices of color in the food world.

JUSTICE: Tara Rodriguez Besosa participated in the Slow Food panel, When Disaster Strikes, that grappled with topics like vulnerable communities, food waste on a large scale, and devastation. Tara speaks with HRN about her efforts to decolonize Puerto Rico’s food system and help farmers rebuild after last year’s devastating hurricanes.

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