Mamamia Out Loud

Australia’s #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It’s your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

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A Woman Got Pregnant & ‘Betrayed Us All’ May 27, 2026

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Two famous women, two pregnancies, and a whole lot of hurt feelings.

What the Enhanced Games tells us about the very best bits of sport. And an Australian footballer who finally said the quiet part out loud.

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There’s a very important Taylor Swift update, concerning a literal fringe theory.

And new information about what’s still wrong with your bed.

Oh, and a full-throated apology for ruining your lives, these past few months. From here on in, you can expect less 'maxxing', more 'laxxing'.

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What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: The One Big Lie Blown Up By The Kylie Doco
Listen: Bed Shaming & A Terrible Excuse To Skip Your Son’s Wedding
Listen: It's Sexy TV Season & An Embarrassing Email Mistake
Listen: Why Yesteryear Is The Ultimate Revenge Fantasy
Listen: An Argy-Bargy About Childcare & The Wrong Friendship Advice
Listen: The 'Normal Girlfriend' Dating Dilemma
Listen: The 'Dog Year' Relationship Theory That Explains Your Ex
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FREE SUBS TASTER: The One Big Lie Blown Up By The Kylie Doco May 27, 2026

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Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens and special guest host Laura Brodnik from The Spill on our subscribers-only episode. You can listen to the full conversation: The One Big Lie Blown Up By The Kylie Doco

The Netflix doco Kylie has officially dropped, and the nostalgia we are feeling is quite real. Today, Holly, Clare and Laura are unpacking the three-part series.

From the ‘singing budgie’ era to two-time Grammy Award winner, it's the ultimate masterclass in career longevity. So why does our collective obsession with the ‘Princess of Pop’ run so deep, and what does Kylie’s story tell us about the grit and resilience behind the fame?

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We discuss her first cancer diagnosis at age 36, her decision to postpone chemotherapy to try IVF and the revelation of her second, very private battle with breast cancer.

Also, the slightly awkward raw honesty of Jason Donovan, her relationship with INXS frontman Michael Hutchence and the lure of your first true love. Plus, the touching way her friend Nick Cave articulates her magic might just be our absolute favourite part of the entire thing.

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What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: Bed Shaming & A Terrible Excuse To Skip Your Son’s Wedding
Listen: It's Sexy TV Season & An Embarrassing Email Mistake
Listen: Why Yesteryear Is The Ultimate Revenge Fantasy
Listen: An Argy-Bargy About Childcare & The Wrong Friendship Advice
Listen: The 'Normal Girlfriend' Dating Dilemma
Listen: The 'Dog Year' Relationship Theory That Explains Your Ex
Listen: UNPACKED: Famesick - Lena Dunham
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Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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Bed Shaming & A Terrible Excuse To Skip Your Son’s Wedding May 25, 2026

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Taylor Swift’s fiance (what’s his name again?) just served up her most relatable moment.

Is it ever okay for your dad not to come to your wedding? Well, when he’s Donald Trump, it might just be a blessing.

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Beige? Loads of pillows? Hospital corners? Matching pillow cases? All these things are branded 'chic' or 'cheap' by a man who’s come to shame our beds and we are obsessed.

Plus, has celebrity culture robbed us of the stories actors are trying to tell? One very famous man has Chalamet thoughts.

And: Meet the Aussie trad wives.

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Follow bed-shamer Loui Burke
Listen to our latest episode: It's Sexy TV Season & An Embarrassing Email Mistake
Listen: Why Yesteryear Is The Ultimate Revenge Fantasy
Listen: An Argy-Bargy About Childcare & The Wrong Friendship Advice
Listen: The 'Normal Girlfriend' Dating Dilemma
Listen: The 'Dog Year' Relationship Theory That Explains Your Ex
Listen: UNPACKED: Famesick - Lena Dunham
Listen: A Zero Birthday Freak Out & You've Got Something On Your Face
Listen: Wait, There Are Four Styles of Friendship?
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SUNDAY SPECIAL: Unleashed. The Podcast For Women Who Need A Laugh. May 23, 2026

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Outlouders, today for a Sunday Special we're dropping an episode of our sister podcast Unleashed into your feed... It's a little bit rogue, just like us and we think you're going to love it. You're welcome.

Grace heard someone breaking into her apartment, grabbed a tennis racket, lowered her voice and screamed through the door in her mouth guard. It was not, in fact, a burglar. Mary has had it with people saying 'I Love You'. We disagree (and we love Mary, very much). Cath confesses that she dreads holidays since her divorce. Bruna lives with lupus and wakes up in pain every single day, and almost no one knows. And Grace had nits for four days and genuinely thought it was perimenopause. And the songs that changed us. Whether sitting on a school bus, lying in a delivery room, or chasing David Bowie down a street in New York, it's a lot. It's everything. It's Unleashed.
In your ears today: Grace Lam, Mary Coustas, Bruna Papandrea and Cath Mahoney.

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This show was produced and created by Mia Freedman
Created and developed by Executive Producer Monique Bowley
Senior Producer and Audio Editor is Tina Matolov
Social Media Producer Coco Lavigne
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It's Sexy TV Season & An Embarrassing Email Mistake May 22, 2026

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A very wise man has a 'State of Life' Test he gives himself every Monday morning. So we did it. Results… vary.

Forget boy bands, man bands are back. But is anyone listening to new music, anyway?

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We hate to bring it up (again), but Em has something in common with Elon Musk.

Also, the email sign-offs you should never, ever use. Sincerely.

And, reccos (all TV this week)....

Holly recommends Rivals: Season 2 on Disney Plus because it’s 'beyond earthly praise'.

Clare recommends Should I Marry A Murderer? on Netflix. because she says it’s quality murder doc.

Em recommends Off Campus on Amazon Prime, because it will fill the Heated Rivalry hole (in your heart).

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What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: Why Yesteryear Is The Ultimate Revenge Fantasy
Listen: An Argy-Bargy About Childcare & The Wrong Friendship Advice
Listen: The 'Normal Girlfriend' Dating Dilemma
Listen: The 'Dog Year' Relationship Theory That Explains Your Ex
Listen: UNPACKED: Famesick - Lena Dunham
Listen: A Zero Birthday Freak Out & You've Got Something On Your Face
Listen: Wait, There Are Four Styles of Friendship?
Listen: A Fashion F-Up & The Ryan Reynolds Of It All
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens & Emily Vernem

Acting Group Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock

Executive Producer: Grace Rouvray

Video Producer: Josh Green

Assistant Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

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An Argy-Bargy About Childcare & The Wrong Friendship Advice May 20, 2026

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Kylie Minogue has told us something we didn’t know about her experience with cancer. That she got a second diagnosis in 2021, and she has a message for all of us about it.

Matty J is the latest millennial parent to weigh in on the childcare debate that’s been preoccupying the media lately. Clare, Holly and Amelia do not agree on what all the noise is about.

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Also - It’s Meghan and Harry’s anniversary and they need to tell us something about penguins. And it looks like Deborra-Lee Furness kept Nicole Kidman in her Hugh Jackman divorce.

Plus, there are three types of 'Fun'. Are all of them fun?

And the friendship wedding dilemma that we can’t agree on.

Oh, and have you noticed anything funny about the pictures behind us in the studio? Yes, that.

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What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: The 'Normal Girlfriend' Dating Dilemma
Listen: The 'Dog Year' Relationship Theory That Explains Your Ex
Listen: UNPACKED: Famesick - Lena Dunham
Listen: A Zero Birthday Freak Out & You've Got Something On Your Face
Listen: Wait, There Are Four Styles of Friendship?
Listen: A Fashion F-Up & The Ryan Reynolds Of It All
Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: The Royal Affair No One Saw Coming
Listen: How To Be Liked By Absolutely Everyone
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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FREE SUBS TASTER: The 'Normal Girlfriend' Dating Dilemma May 20, 2026

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Outlouders, enjoy this free taster of Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright and Emily Vernem on our subscribers only episode. You can listen to the full conversation: 'The 'Normal Girlfriend' Dating Dilemma'

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Jacob Elordi and Kendall Jenner have gone on a double date with Kylie Jenner and Timothée Chalamet and we are obsessed. So is it all part of ‘Momager’ Kris Jenner’s grand plan? Em Vernem has a theory.

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Plus, Prince William is tackling the housing crisis and we need Royal Correspondent Holly to tell us exactly what a 'Duchy' is. And, is Megan trying to be Angelina Jolie and is it working?

Also, we discuss Reese Witherspoon, Mel Robbins, Demi Moore and the 'girlbossifying' AI debate.

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What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: The 'Dog Year' Relationship Theory That Explains Your Ex
Listen: UNPACKED: Famesick - Lena Dunham
Listen: A Zero Birthday Freak Out & You've Got Something On Your Face
Listen: Wait, There Are Four Styles of Friendship?
Listen: A Fashion F-Up & The Ryan Reynolds Of It All
Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: The Royal Affair No One Saw Coming
Listen: How To Be Liked By Absolutely Everyone
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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Kylie Minogue & The 'Dog Years' Relationship Theory May 18, 2026

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The world has just discovered Delta Goodrem, and the world has questions.

The world also has some queries about what a 'two-bob watch' is, and why that term might be used about a disruptive passenger on an Aussie flight.

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Also, suddenly everything that is bad for us is good again. The culture would have us believe that smoking is back, red meat is a health food, partying til dawn is aspirational and tanning beds are a nice lie-down. So what’s all this nonsense about, and why the great wellness vibe shift?

And, Kylie Minogue got asked who the love of her life was. And her answer has given rise to a new dating theory - the 'Dog Years' relationship.

Oh, and… should you chuck out your toothbrush when you get sick? Amelia’s husband has thoughts.

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Listen to our latest episode: UNPACKED: Famesick - Lena Dunham
Listen: A Zero Birthday Freak Out & You've Got Something On Your Face
Listen: Wait, There Are Four Styles of Friendship?
Listen: A Fashion F-Up & The Ryan Reynolds Of It All
Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: The Royal Affair No One Saw Coming
Listen: How To Be Liked By Absolutely Everyone
Listen: Writing a List of Anti-Goals Made Me Quit My Job
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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UNPACKED: Famesick - Lena Dunham May 16, 2026

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If you, like us, are obsessed with Lena Dunham's latest book Famesick, we're here for you with this special episode. You're welcome.

The Girls creator who became the ‘voice of a generation’ is back with a second memoir and Mia, Holly, Amelia and Em are discussing why the world is finally ready to hear her side of the story. From the heights of toxic fame to the depths of chronic illness, her relationship with Jack Antonoff and highly publicised falling-out with showrunner Jenni Konner - we're unpacking it all.

Plus, did her parents save her from the darker side of fame or did they actually stop her from ever growing up? We have thoughts.

Whether you’re rewatching Girls for the tenth time or you’re reading her memoir like a novel, this is the conversation you’ve been waiting for.

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Listen to our latest episode: A Zero Birthday Freak Out & You've Got Something On Your Face
Listen: Wait, There Are Four Styles of Friendship?
Listen: A Fashion F-Up & The Ryan Reynolds Of It All
Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: The Royal Affair No One Saw Coming
Listen: How To Be Liked By Absolutely Everyone
Listen: Writing a List of Anti-Goals Made Me Quit My Job
Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: A Facelift Slippage & ‘Wildly Unhappy’ Royals
Listen: The Red Carpet Moment That Answers The Blake Lively Question
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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A Zero Birthday Freak Out & You've Got Something On Your Face May 15, 2026

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Em Vernem is celebrating a big birthday and we’re unpacking why turning 30 can feel like you’re living in five different decades at once.

Plus, Victoria Beckham says her family isn't a brand while simultaneously launching, well, a new family brand. Is this the definition of 'posting through it'?

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And, public pimple patches. Is wearing a glittery chin star to brunch the ultimate 'skin-positivity' win?

Finally, we’re entering a time when robots are shortlisting your dating options. So, what awkward conversations are AI bots having on first dates, and do they have a better chance of finding your true love than you do?

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Recommendations

Em recommends The Sheep Detectives, Hugh Jackman's highest grossing film.

Amelia recommends Chosen Family by Madeleine Gray.

Holly recommends Prime Minister on Apple TV; chronicling Jacinda Ardern's journey as Prime Minister of New Zealand.

What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: Wait, There Are Four Styles of Friendship?
Listen: A Fashion F-Up & The Ryan Reynolds Of It All
Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: The Royal Affair No One Saw Coming
Listen: How To Be Liked By Absolutely Everyone
Listen: Writing a List of Anti-Goals Made Me Quit My Job
Listen: Scurrilous Gossip: A Facelift Slippage & ‘Wildly Unhappy’ Royals
Listen: The Red Carpet Moment That Answers The Blake Lively Question
Listen: Fake Nips & Wandering Hands: Mia’s Met Gala Verdict
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Emily Vernem & Amelia Lester