Mamamia Out Loud

Australia’s #1 podcast for women is where inquisitive minds come for great conversation — with an occasional side serve of chaos. Covering news, pop culture, and big ideas, plus the small stuff that matters, Mamamia Out Loud features a rotating panel of hosts, including Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens, Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens, Amelia Lester, and Em Vernem. It’s your daily dose of conversation that feels like catching up with your funniest and sharpest friends in the group chat. It’s conversation at its most addictive.

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"I'm Done With Being Interviewed By Women" Jun 23, 2025

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Jameela Jamil is breaking up with women journalists via Substack. After too many burnouts and betrayals, the actress and activist is done. But is this really the group chat exit we think it is? Mia, Jessie and Holly have thoughts.

Plus, there's a mahoosive marriage taking place in Venice this week and friends, people are protesting. It's Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez whose nuptials are getting flack and their wedding extravaganza is everything you’d expect: 27 dresses, three days of events, multiple protests, and a juicy affair that started it all. We've got the full rundown — from the super yacht to the guest list.

Also on today’s show: you've heard of 'Let Them' and if you came to our live show, you might have heard our blunt alternative. But what about... 'Who says?' Who says you can’t wear that crop top? Who says those pants aren’t it? (Well, Mia... apparently. But ignore that.) This latest life theory might just be the one that changes everything — for the better.

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What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: The Book Club Implosion & The Best Friend Comparison Spiral
Listen: The Lick Ick & The Patron Saint of Betrayed Women
Listen: And Just Like That…Carrie Won’t Talk About Her Vagina
Listen: Jessie & The Inside Scoop On The Project's Cancellation
Listen: Meghan Sussex, Emma Grede & The Rebrand of 'Hustle'
Listen: The Books That Changed Our Lives
Listen: Indy Clinton, A Private Investigator & The Anonymous Women Running Scared
Listen to Parenting Out Loud: A New Co-Parenting Rule & The 100% Work Dilemma
Listen to No Filter: Jameela Jamil Knows How To Take Down Andrew Tate
Listen to The Quicky: What Happens Now The US Has Bombed Iran & Taylor’s Texts Go To Court

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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Parenting Out Loud: A New Co-Parenting Rule & The 100% Work Dilemma Jun 20, 2025

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Saturday treat time, Outlouders. A brand new episode of Parenting Out Loud just landed, and we’re dropping it here for you to enjoy too.

In this episode, Jessie Stephens and Amelia Lester dive into:
💬 Co-parenting: Should parents—be they current partners or exes—need to hype each other up a bit more?
🧠 The Ellen Pompeo quote that made them rethink whether mums can ever give 100% at work
💄 And whether letting kids play with makeup is anti-feminist—or just innocent fun

Plus, in this week’s reccos:
📚 Amelia shares the magazine (yes, an actual paper one) that has her kids totally hooked.
🧠 Jessie’s found a smart way to take the edge off toddler tantrums.

Whatever you're doing this weekend, enjoy the conversation.

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Sarah Jessica Parker Didn’t See This... Coming Jun 20, 2025

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Sarah Jessica Parker has spent decades as Carrie Bradshaw, but here’s the twist: she’s never actually watched herself do any of it. Not the sex, not the shopping, not even the typing. So is it the ultimate act of self-care, or just a lil bit lazy?

Plus, everyone’s talking about texting less—until they’re the ones left on read. We unpack the modern crisis of communication overload, from parenting to work to friendships, and why it’s never as simple as just putting your phone down.

If you thought podcasts were just for your ears, think again. Vodcasts are taking over and we feel… conflicted about it. Are you sick of our faces yet? We certainly are.

And our recommendations, including a documentary on Jessie’s roman empire, Holly’s 1923 binge, and Mia’s new comfort TV show.

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Recommendations

Mia recommends Overcompensating on Prime Video andIf I Could Be My Silhouette by Jacqui Oberg

Jessie recommendsTitan: The OceanGate Submersible Disaster documentary on Netflix

Holly recommends 1923 on Paramount Plus

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Parenting Out Loud: The Death Of The Dining Table & 'Outdated' Schooling

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Listen to our latest episode: Ethical Flirting Rules & The Sister Who Just Won't Change
Listen: The Lick Ick & The Patron Saint of Betrayed Women
Listen: And Just Like That…Carrie Won’t Talk About Her Vagina
Listen: Jessie & The Inside Scoop On The Project's Cancellation
Listen: Meghan Sussex, Emma Grede & The Rebrand of 'Hustle'
Listen: The Books That Changed Our Lives
Listen: Indy Clinton, A Private Investigator & The Anonymous Women Running Scared
Listen: The Test Everyone In Hollywood Wants You To Do
Listen: The 36 Questions We All Need To Ask

Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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CREDITS:

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

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Meghan Sussex, Emma Grede & The Rebrand of 'Hustle' Jun 18, 2025

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There's a standout star on Duchess Meghan’s latest long-form interview, but surprise... it's not Megs. Enter one Emma Grede: Skims co-founder, Shark Tank guest judge, and the new archetype of the modern girl boss. While Meghan’s business advice is a little on the fluffy side, Emma’s empire—from shapewear to podcasts to philanthropic pledges—has Mia exhausted.

Meanwhile, Holly is bringing Etsy witches back with a dark update. What happens when your Etsy witch dies mid-spell? It happened and the buyer of this magical intervention isn't happy.

Plus, someone returns from therapy with two anxiety hacks that might just change your life... or at least put your performance anxiety on hiatus for a while.

And the debate about a debate: Why are South Australian high schools debating the legitimacy of 'Tradwives'? Jessie's extensive debate career (ages 13-16), has prepared her for this moment.

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What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: The Books That Changed Our Lives
Listen: Indy Clinton, A Private Investigator & The Anonymous Women Running Scared
Listen: The Test Everyone In Hollywood Wants You To Do
Listen: The 36 Questions We All Need To Ask
Listen: Tampons, Tarot & The Rise Of Magical Thinking
Listen: Bonnie Blue's Glass Box Stunt & Blake Lively's Vindication
Listen: Jessie & The Inside Scoop On The Project's Cancellation
Listen: LITTLE TREAT: The Money Pushover & A Woman Named Karen
Listen to Parenting Out Loud: The Death Of The Dining Table & 'Outdated' Schooling
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Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

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A Private Investigator & The Anonymous Women Running Scared Jun 16, 2025

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Questions from the weekend: What's an 11A? Why is America protesting kings? And what took Sir David Beckham so long? Mia, Jessie, and Em Vernem are here with the answers.

Plus, Sabrina Carpenter drops her new album cover—and the internet loses its mind. Is it DV glamour porn? Subversive satire? Or just a PR play we’ve seen before?

And, Aussie content creator Indy Clinton hired a private investigator to unmask her worst trolls. What she discovered was a rude awakening for anonymous haters.

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What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: The Test Everyone In Hollywood Wants You To Do
Listen: The 36 Questions We All Need To Ask
Listen: Tampons, Tarot & The Rise Of Magical Thinking
Listen: Bonnie Blue's Glass Box Stunt & Blake Lively's Vindication
Listen: Jessie & The Inside Scoop On The Project's Cancellation
Listen: LITTLE TREAT: The Money Pushover & A Woman Named Karen
Listen: A Famous Mother & A Treacherous Daughter
Listen: Celebrities Are Spruiking Their Boob Jobs. Everyone Cool With That?
Listen to Parenting Out Loud: The Death Of The Dining Table & 'Outdated' Schooling
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Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

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SUNDAY SPECIAL: Introducing 'I Never Told You This': Mary & Martha Kalifatidis Jun 14, 2025

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Outlouders, today we're introducing you to a new podcast we're releasing at Mamamia called I Never Told You This. Two People. One big reveal.A simple card deck with questions. Some are light-hearted, some deeper…and one that says ‘I Never Told You This’ - the chance for one person to share something they’ve never told the other before.

In the first episode of 'I Never Told You This', Mary and Martha Kalifatidis chat about their all-too-relatable experience of protectiveness and anxiety as parents. If you want to continue to enjoy this series, it will be dropping every Thursday over at the But Are You Happy podcast.

Head to Medibank to learn more about the Family Roast card game that sparked the conversation.

The experiences shared and views expressed are those of the people featured and do not reflect the views of Medibank. This is not health advice. If you or someone you know needs help, you should always consult a trusted health professional. For further support and guidance, visit Medibank Mental Health. Or, if in need of immediate support, call Lifeline on 13 11 14.

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Parenting Out Loud: The Death Of The Dining Table & 'Outdated' Schooling Jun 13, 2025

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Outlouders, the second episode of Parenting Out Loud has just dropped so we're adding it here as a little Saturday treat. You. Are. Welcome.
Join Jessie Stephens and Amelia Lester as they discuss:

Is the family dinner really just a guilt trip with cutlery?
If Kourtney Kardashian is on to something when she says school's outdated.
The model who makes money from encouraging women and girls to live a 'skinny' lifestyle. Different generation, different platform, same disturbing message.

And in their reccos this week:

Amelia's got a brilliantly grim podcast that both you and your kid will love.
Jessie shares her sneaky hack to score all the toys—no meltdown required.

Come join the conversation. New eps drop Saturdays. No shoulder spit-ups required.

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WHAT TO READ:

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GET IN TOUCH:

Share your feedback! Send us a voice message or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au

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The Test Everyone In Hollywood Wants You To Do Jun 13, 2025

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It popped up in The White Lotus, has reached peak celebrity level in Hollywood with everyone from Taylor Swift to Jennifer Anniston a fan, and is the latest personality test we’re using to put ourselves neatly into boxes (because chaos is exhausting). Welcome to the resurgence of the Enneagram.

On today's episode, Jessie, Holly and friend of the pod, Claire Murphy discuss why, for some, it's just a numbers game, and for others, the Enneagram is a map by which to live.

Plus, in recommendations: Murphy brings a spicy book series, Jessie’s all over (at last) a buzzy docuseries, and Holly’s been glued to a delicious new TV binge.

And in Best & Worst: a celeb’s viral video that's very Holly.com, a cursed algorithm that haunts our hosts, and a wholesome Saturday night family feast.

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Recommendations

Claire recommendsThe Kingdom of Lies by Stacia Stark.

Jessie recommends Drive To Survive on Netflix.

Holly recommends Sirens on Netflix.

Listen to Parenting Out Loud

Parenting Out Loud: Grandparents — It's Time For Your Performance Review

What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: The 36 Questions We All Need To Ask
Listen: Tampons, Tarot & The Rise Of Magical Thinking
Listen: Bonnie Blue's Glass Box Stunt & Blake Lively's Vindication
Listen: Jessie & The Inside Scoop On The Project's Cancellation
Listen: LITTLE TREAT: The Money Pushover & A Woman Named Karen
Listen: A Famous Mother & A Treacherous Daughter
Listen to Parenting Out Loud: Grandparents — It's Time for Your Performance Review
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Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read:

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GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

CREDITS:

Hosts: Claire Murphy, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

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Bonnie Blue's Glass Box Stunt & Blake Lively's Vindication Jun 11, 2025

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Blake Lively has broken her silence on the It Ends With Us chaos, calling it “manufactured shame". With Justin Baldoni’s $614 million countersuit just dismissed, it’s validation for Lively — but the real drama’s not over till 2026. Mia, Jessie and Em Vernem discuss.

Plus, Wife Guys. You’ve seen them online — gushing about their spouses like it’s their full-time job. Mia, Jessie and Em ask: is it wholesome... or a red flag?

And finally, are we OK? Sydney Sweeney is selling 'vintage' soap made from her actual bath water, and Bonnie Blue was all set to launch a human petting zoo with herself as the star attraction — until Only Fans banned her. We unpack the trend of women turning themselves into brands and whether it’s empowerment to be proud of or something else that's far more troubling.

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What To Listen To Next:

Listen to our latest episode: Jessie & The Inside Scoop On The Project's Cancellation
Listen: LITTLE TREAT: The Money Pushover & A Woman Named Karen
Listen: A Famous Mother & A Treacherous Daughter
Listen: "We're Having A Baby #SPONCON"
Listen: Khloe Kardashian And A Cheating Scandal
Listen: The Lick Ick & The Patron Saint of Betrayed Women
Listen: We Need To Debrief On 'And Just Like That' Season Three, Ep One
Listen to Parenting Out Loud: Grandparents — It's Time for Your Performance Review
Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts

Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at outloud@mamamia.com.au

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LITTLE TREAT: The Money Pushover & A Woman Named Karen Jun 08, 2025

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Outlouders, we’ve unlocked a juicy bonus episode for your long weekend listening pleasure. Why? Because Jessie drops some absolute gold in this one, and it’s simply too good to gatekeep.

Are you that friend—the one who always pays the bill, then simmers in silent rage while your mates mysteriously 'forget' to transfer their share? The one who’d rather sell a kidney than send a “Hey, can you pay me back?” text?

Congrats, you might be a money pushover. But don’t worry—today’s episode is basically therapy. One brave Outlouder shares her tale of financial frustration, and Jessie serves up a no-cringe guide to getting your money back without spiralling into an anxiety pit.

PLUS: What do you do when your name becomes... a meme? Listener Karen has a full-blown identity crisis, and we have thoughts. Spoiler: changing your name isn’t off the table.

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