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    Education for Kids

    Making The Leap

    Making The Leap is a weekly podcast hosted by Christine and Chris Stigall. The Stigalls recently made the leap to Christian education, pulling their daughter out of a public school and sending her to a private Christian school. The Stigalls want to empower other families to choose the school that’s best for them and break free from the status quo. They speak with society experts, educators, legislators, psychologists, and other parents to uncover the hidden truths in education and lay the groundwork for change. 

    Learn more at MakingTheLeapPodcast.com. This podcast is produced by the Stanley M. Herzog Charitable Foundation. 

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    Making The Leap - The Symposium?! Jan 19, 2024
    Show notes

    Chris and Christine are often asked, "Just what is the Herzog Foundation all about? What do they do?" Today, you'll meet one of the people at the heart of the core mission of the foundation.

    If you are or you know a teacher, administrator, board member, or leader in any form of Christian education - you need to know how the Herzog Foundation travels the country and invites you to complementary trainings to share and learn best practices to take back and apply to your learning environment. When Christian school teachers both brand new and well established get together - ideas and strategies spread like wildfire! Hear about all the many trainings offered all over the country - totally free of charge - coming in 2024!

    Plus, Sadie announces a new training coming this summer for those thinking of "Making the Leap" from teaching in public education to teaching in a Christian education setting. What are the questions, concerns, and myths about changing careers to Christian education? That's what this new, free symposium is all about! Hear all the incredible details and why - no matter where you live or the size/type of Christian education from which you come - you need to be a part of one of our trainings this year!

    Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

    Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.


    A Christian University Unlike Any Other Ft. Hildegard College Founder Jan 12, 2024
    Show notes

    As Chris and Christine consider their Christian high schooler's next steps in education, they have a fascinating conversation with the founder of California-based Hildegard College -- Dr. Matthew Smith. Find out what he says makes Hildegard a fresh way to think about a Christian higher education. A way of learning he says is unlike virtually any other large, established Christian university in the country.

    Learn more about Dr. Matthew Smith's work here. Follow Hildegard College on Facebook, Instagram and X.

    Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

    Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.


    College-Simulated Learning for K12 w/ Dr. Keri Ingraham Jan 05, 2024
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    Dr. Keri Ingraham joins the show to explain a new, hybrid education model that's quickly rising in popularity — College-Simulated Learning or CSL. Schools that use this education model are called University-Model schools and are accredited by NAUMS, Inc. Primarily used for high schoolers, this model is a hybrid home/in-class schedule to create more flexibility and space for small institutions as well as increase parental involvement at home.

    Dr. Ingraham also recaps school choice victories from 2023. Nearly 10 states passed universal school choice programs! She predicts which states will join them in 2024 and create their own programs.

    Listen to Dr. Keri Ingraham's previous appearance on Making The Leap: Mainstream Media Thinks Homeschooling Is Still A Mystery. Stay in touch with Dr. Ingraham on X.

    Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

    Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
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    Our Favorite Moments of 2023: Part 2 Dec 29, 2023
    Show notes

    Join Chris and Christine as they recall some of their favorite conversations and moments of the 2023. Please tell us in your review if you have a favorite conversation, and thanks so much for your continued support of Making The Leap! We're looking forward to a great year of conversations in 2024 that will provide you information and encouragement to "Make The Leap" into faith-based education for your kids!

    Chris & Christine's Favorite Moments of 2023:

    1. Addressing Woke Christianity w/ Lucas Miles
    2. Learning Science Through A Biblical Lens with Tricia Hanska
    3. Let The Public School System Collapse? ft. Dennis Prager
    4. A Family's Decision to Choose Homeschooling with Ashley and Tyler Mackey
    5. Part 2: Meet the 2023 Teachers of the Year ft. Jake Kounter
    6. SPECIAL EPISODE: 1 Year Anniversary Event w/ LIVE Q&A

    Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

    Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.


    Our Favorite Moments of 2023: Part 1 Dec 22, 2023
    Show notes

    Join Chris and Christine as they recall some of their favorite conversations and moments of 2023. Please tell us in your review if you have a favorite conversation, and thanks so much for your continued support of Making The Leap! We're looking forward to a great year of conversations in 2024 that will provide you with information and encouragement to "Make The Leap" into faith-based education for your kids!

    Chris & Christine's Favorite Moments of 2023:

    • What is Kingdom Education? with Luke Bowers
    • Special Education Misconceptions with Karla Phillips-Krivickas
    • The Importance of Outdoor Learning & Finding a Community w/ Wild + Free Homeschool Mom Kristin Wahls
    • Students Over Systems w/ Ginny Gentles
    • Impacting Students as a School Resource Officer

    Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

    Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.


    Know Your Legal Rights As a Homeschool Family Dec 15, 2023
    Show notes For over four decades, the Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) has fought in courts for families who've always believed the best education for kids is in the home. In today's interview with HSLDA President Jim Mason, you'll hear the fascinating history and legal fight of early homeschool families to today's explosion in homeschooling as the fastest growing form of education for kids in the country.
    We explore questions such as what makes the homeschooling movement different than the school choice movement and what goals do they share in common?
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    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

    Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.


    Continuing Christian Education in Trades or Business? It's Happening! Dec 08, 2023
    Show notes The old, conventional wisdom of K-12 kids graduating then heading off to acquire expensive degrees from four-year institutions has proven unnecessary for many students.
    The trades are begging for young people to join their ranks for great salaries and benefits from an early age. Jobs that will likely pay far more than the careers of their debt-laden, four-year graduate counterparts. What about those who not only want to get into trades, but own their own business in the trades?
    The Stigalls are joined by the President of Tarkio Technical College where they've implemented a brand new, faith-based curriculum to teach technical college students the finer points of operating their own business through Biblical principles. This conversation is sure to reframe your thinking about traditional, four-year higher education.
    Follow Tarkio Technical College on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube.
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    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

    Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.


    Do You Know What D.E.I. Really Means? Dec 01, 2023
    Show notes After Tabia Lee penned an op-ed in the New York Post in October 2023 titled I was a DEI director - DEI drives campus antisemitism, Chris and Christine decided to have a conversation with Dr. Lee to discover exactly what you and your student need to know about it. The conversation is blunt and eye opening and as you'll hear - "Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion" is anything but inclusive. In fact, the behind the scenes conversations with many in education who are tasked with implementing it will stun you at just how bigoted "D.E.I" really is.
    Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

    Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.


    Can a Secular College Erase Your Child's Christ-Focused Upbringing? Ft. Samantha Seal Nov 24, 2023
    Show notes

    You've gone out of your way, sometimes at great personal sacrifice to make sure your child's K-12 education is Christ-focused. But then he or she decides their college of choice is the furthest thing away from a Christ-centered environment.

    Should you fight them on the decision? How do you know your child is spiritually ready? Can your child's entire education be erased on a four-year, secular college campus experience?

    Today's guest was raised and taught in a K-12 Christian school setting but decided her college destination was the University of Texas-Austin. Hear how she navigated and worked through a decidedly different cultural and spiritual environment to reach graduation and how she continues to be challenged in her first professional experiences in Washington D.C. politics.

    Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

    Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.


    Christians Standing Tall: High School Football to Hollywood Nov 17, 2023
    Show notes

    A unique episode of Making the Leap featuring two fearless men in their respective fields who've stood tall at great personal cost to their careers and families because they stayed true to their Christian faith.

    You no doubt heard about the high school football coach fired for praying on the field. His historic victory before the Supreme Court last year wasn't widely noticed, but it was a huge win for religious liberty. Coach Joe Kennedy joins us to discuss his story and his new book "Average Joe."

    Then, actor Kevin Sorbo shares a bit of his behind-the-scenes perspective as a practicing Christian and homeschool parent in one of the most secular places on Earth - Hollywood.

    Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

    Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.


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