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    Education for Kids

    Making The Leap

    Making The Leap is a weekly podcast hosted by Christine and Chris Stigall. The Stigalls recently made the leap to Christian education, pulling their daughter out of a public school and sending her to a private Christian school. The Stigalls want to empower other families to choose the school that’s best for them and break free from the status quo. They speak with society experts, educators, legislators, psychologists, and other parents to uncover the hidden truths in education and lay the groundwork for change. 

    Learn more at MakingTheLeapPodcast.com. This podcast is produced by the Stanley M. Herzog Charitable Foundation. 

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    Public School vs. Christian School as a Student Jun 23, 2023
    Show notes

    Chris and Christine are again joined by their daughter, Anna Stigall, a year after her debut on the show. Anna gives her insider experience as a student at a Christian school in comparison to the public education system. She also answers questions about navigating social media, friends, phones, and self-discovery from her own perspective as she goes into high school.


    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates.


    Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.

    Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.


    Phone Usage in Schools w/ IWF's Ginny Gentles Jun 16, 2023
    Show notes

    Chris and Christine discuss school choice with returning guest Ginny Gentles, host of Students over Systems, in association with IWF. Ginny dives into the pervasiveness of mobile phones in the education system and the impact of personal electronics on student learning.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates.

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    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.


    Starting a Christian School in Rural America Jun 09, 2023
    Show notes

    Chris and Christine are joined by two local listeners, Megan and Kendra, who are in the process of starting a Christian school in Cameron, Missouri. With the help of SchoolBox, a program provided by the Herzog Foundation, Cameron Christian Academy is already growing in it's rural setting in northern Missouri.

    Chris and Christine also comment on parents' growing concerns about teachers claiming to know how to raise children better than their own family. This issue emphasizes the importance of school choice and informed decision making when parents place their children in school districts.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates.

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    Impacting Students as a School Resource Officer Jun 02, 2023
    Show notes

    Chris and Christine are joined by Sheriff Deputy Jonathan Bransfield just a week after his name made headlines for talking a student down from the ledge of a water tower. Deputy Bransfield discusses his experience as a school resource officer and as a father who recently made the leap to enroll his own children in a Christian school. He also tells his testimony of how the Lord has used his position in law enforcement to make a difference in the lives of others.

    Deputy Bransfield gives profound insight on security in schools from a law enforcement perspective and provides information on the ways that some school districts are taking steps to approach the threat of school shootings.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates.

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    The Advancement of School Choice w/ State Rep Josh Hurlbert May 26, 2023
    Show notes

    Chris and Christine are joined by Missouri State Representative Josh Hurlbert. They discuss the progression of school choice within the state of Missouri and beyond. They also cover the current victory in Kansas after the passing of Women's Bill of Rights that properly defines a "woman" and will protect female sports from transgender athletes.


    Josh also promotes MOScholars, a scholarship program in its early years that is offered to Missouri students to help with tuition at accredited schools of their choice.


    Chris and Christine also look back on the impact of the show on current listeners who have taken the time to write in. Interested in contacting Making the Leap? Contact us at hello@makingtheleappodcast.com. You can also follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube.


    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow them on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates.

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    Learning Science Through A Biblical Lens May 19, 2023
    Show notes

    Chris and Christine have an in-depth conversation with Tricia Hanska on science in education and how Christian education bridges the gap between secular and biblical worldviews. Tricia shares her passion for God’s creation and science, giving insight into how to prepare children to learn about science through a biblical lens, while also learning how to defend their faith. When a student learns about science with a biblical foundation, they will grow in discernment that God's word is true and articulate their faith and worldview with confidence.

    Tricia has a degree in Zoology and was the Outreach Education Coordinator at the Kansas City Zoo for many years before staying home to focus on her family. She also advanced her education working on a Master of Science in Science Education at the Institute of Creation Research.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates.


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    Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
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    Addressing Woke Christianity w/ Lucas Miles May 12, 2023
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    Chris and Christine are joined by guest Lucas Miles, pastor and author of The Christian Left and Woke Jesus: The False Messiah Destroying Christianity. Lucas discusses the premises of his published works that cover the gradual socialism and woke ideology that American churches are beginning to adopt in order to satisfy a more diverse Christian following.

    Lucas also discusses The American Pastor Project, created by Miles in order to challenge pastors to sign a statement of faith that pledges loyalty to anti-woke Christian ideology. Lucas Miles' books and more of his work can be found on his website.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates.

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    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.


    1 Year Anniversary Event Recap May 05, 2023
    Show notes

    Chris and Christine discuss some of the stories shared at the Making the Leap 1 Year Anniversary event.

    Chris and Christine also cover current events featured on The Lion, an online news publication by the Herzog Foundation. They dive into a recent speech given by President Joe Biden at an event to honor the 2023 Teacher of the Year and discuss book bans. Like and follow The Lion on Facebook and Twitter.

    Watch last week's anniversary event video HERE.
    Watch this week's video episode HERE.

    Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates.

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    SPECIAL EPISODE: 1 Year Anniversary Event w/ LIVE Q&A Apr 28, 2023
    Show notes

    We're celebrating one year of Making the Leap! This special episode contains live Q&A from our recent one-year anniversary celebration at the Herzog Foundation. Chris and Christine dive into their personal journey on starting this podcast and hear stories from listeners of how the show has helped them and their children's education.

    Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates.

    Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
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    Challenging You to Look into Your School District w/ author Kristin Grubbs Apr 21, 2023
    Show notes

    Chris and Christine are joined by guest Kristin Grubbs, author of Deep End of Public Education. When COVID-19 began to affect her children's schooling experience, Kristin chose to become more involved in their local school district. However, this new involvement in public education opened her eyes to escalating issues, including the controversial push for the Panorama Student Survey.

    Kristin ultimately decided to withdraw her four children from her local school district and enroll them in Missouri Virtual Academy. She also wrote a book about her experience. Deep End of Public Education by Kristin Grubbsis available for purchase on Amazon.

    The article Chris & Christine discuss about the LGBTQ "Day of Silence" can be read on The Lion, an online news publication by the Herzog Foundation. Like and follow The Lion on Facebook and Twitter.

    To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates.

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