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Building Solutions: How Maine's Developer is Tackling the Housing Inventory Crisis Feb 23, 2025

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In this episode, host Kristan Vermeulen sits down with Bobby Miller, a highly experienced asset developer in Maine, to discuss the current state of the housing market, the lack of inventory, and the development landscape throughout the state. Bobby shares his journey from his upbringing in Camden to becoming a key player in Maine’s real estate scene.

Key Topics Covered:

The Housing Crisis in Maine:

Bobby talks about the ongoing shortage of inventory in Maine’s housing market and the impact it’s having on potential homeowners.
He shares his insights into the causes behind this shortage and explores possible solutions to ease the crisis moving forward.

Bobby’s Experience in Maine’s Development Sector:

With years of experience in asset development, Bobby discusses the various projects he’s been a part of in Maine and the unique challenges and rewards of working in the state.
He highlights some of his most memorable developments and the lessons he’s learned along the way.

Growing Up in Camden:

Bobby reflects on his childhood in Camden, Maine, and how it influenced his values and approach to both business and life.
He shares stories from his early years in Camden and how the community spirit there shaped his outlook on development.

Why Bobby Loves Kennebec County:

As a developer in Kennebec County, Bobby explains what draws him to the area and why he enjoys working there.
He discusses the balance between maintaining the area’s charm and supporting growth to meet the demand for housing and infrastructure.

Insights into Asset Development:

Bobby offers a deep dive into the asset development process, offering advice for navigating the complexities of developing properties, especially in Maine’s more rural areas.
He reflects on how the industry has evolved over the years and provides a glimpse into future trends that may shape the housing market.

Personal Reflections & Future Outlook:

Looking ahead, Bobby talks about his future plans in asset development, what excites him about Maine’s real estate market, and the potential for growth in both urban and rural areas.
He shares his thoughts on the challenges and opportunities that lie ahead in Maine’s development sector.

Tune in to hear Bobby’s insightful reflections on Maine’s housing market, his development experiences, and the bright future of asset development in the state.

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Treading New Paths: Jax & Bard’s Shoemaking Mastery Jan 09, 2025

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Treading New Paths: Jax & Bard’s Shoemaking Mastery

In the heart of Gray, Maine, a small town known for its scenic beauty and quiet charm, a unique brand has emerged, one that combines age-old shoemaking traditions with modern sensibilities. That brand is Jax & Bard, a name synonymous with high-quality, handcrafted footwear. Whether you’re a connoisseur of custom shoes or simply someone who values craftsmanship, Jax & Bard offers more than just shoes—they offer a story, a legacy, and a testament to the enduring art of shoemaking.

The Origins of Jax & Bard

Founded by Jackie Lindstedt—the company started with a love for shoe design and craft as well as quality and sustainability. Jackie was driven by a desire to create shoes that not only looked stunning but also felt exceptional to wear. Jax & Bard shoes are designed with a focus on comfort, durability, and, most importantly, craftsmanship.

Both Jax and Bard bring a personal touch to every pair of shoes they create, infusing their distinct styles into their work while honoring the legacy of traditional shoemaking techniques but also making the process more modern and sustainable. Their commitment to quality is evident in every stitch and the fabric she uses is unique as she can craft a custom piece for her clients.

Handcrafted from Start to Finish

What sets Jax & Bard apart from other footwear brands is their dedication to the art of handcrafting. From the moment a customer places an order to the time they slip their feet into their new shoes, the experience is steeped in artistry. Jackie carefully and strategically prints out a design onto sustainable fabric and then places the fabric on clogs or an espadrille base sourced by a local company.

The design process is highly personalized. Jax and Bard work closely with each client to ensure the shoes not only fit perfectly but also reflect the wearer’s style. Each pair is made-to-order, meaning no two shoes are exactly the same, and this level of bespoke care is what makes Jax & Bard shoes a unique treasure for those who appreciate the value of true craftsmanship.

Every step in the creation of a Jax & Bard shoe is done with precision and care. The process includes hand-stitching, custom fitting, and finishing techniques that ensure a level of comfort and durability not often seen in mass-produced footwear. The result is a pair of shoes that don’t just serve as a piece of clothing but as an investment in craftsmanship, style, and longevity.

A Commitment to Local Craftsmanship

Though Jax & Bard has expanded its reach beyond Gray, Maine, the company remains deeply rooted in its local community. They take pride in their artisanal approach and in supporting the local economy by sourcing materials and services from nearby suppliers whenever possible. The brand is also committed to sustainable practices, ensuring that its shoes are built to last, thereby reducing waste and the environmental footprint of fast fashion. She even takes leftover fabrics and turns them into earrings.

The Future of Jax & Bard: Crafting New Paths

As the company grows, Jax & Bard remains committed to its core values. They continue to build upon their legacy by expanding their collections and experimenting with new designs and techniques while staying true to their roots. The world of custom footwear is evolving, and Jax & Bard is at the forefront of this evolution, bringing old-world craftsmanship into the modern age. She is even considering diving into slippers which is a huge passion of hers.

But while the future is exciting, Jax & Bard hasn’t lost sight of what makes their shoes special: the personal connection they have with their customers. Each pair of shoes is more than just a product; it’s a collaboration between the maker and the wearer, ensuring a perfect fit, both physically and stylistically.

Discovering Jax & Bard

To explore their collections or learn more about the artisans behind Jax & Bard, visit https://jaxandbard.shoes/. Whether you’re based in Maine or beyond, there’s no better time to step into a pair of shoes that are as unique as you are.

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Rogue Life Maine: Crafting Strength, Community, and Legacy Nov 16, 2024

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Rogue Life Maine: A Story of Craftsmanship, Community, and Passion

In the heart of Maine, where the rugged coastline meets vast forests and small towns built on hard work, a brand was born — a brand that would eventually redefine the world of fitness equipment and inspire a lifestyle grounded in strength, resilience, and pride. This is the story of Rogue Life Maine.

The Beginning: A Vision Takes Root

This business started as an award and trophy business owned by Mark Rodrigue's parents and now it's a commitment to continue producing American-made apparel and accessories that are both built to last and designed for performance.

In a state known for its natural beauty and hardworking, no-nonsense people, Rogue Life Maine has all of its operations in Lewiston. Maine’s deep-rooted culture of craftsmanship, from shipbuilders to loggers to artisans, resonated with the Rogue team. The decision to keep this business in Maine wasn’t just about logistics; it was about a philosophy that aligned with Maine’s spirit — a place where quality and hard work were not negotiable but ingrained in everything people did.

The Heart of Rogue Life Maine: Craftsmanship and Quality

In a small town in Maine, nestled among forests and fields, the Rogue team set up shop. And here, the true essence of Rogue Life Maine began to take shape.

Maine’s factories are often humble, yet they produce some of the most enduring and well-crafted products in the country. This tradition of attention to detail and pride in one’s work was infused into every piece of apparel, outdoor pack, hat, etc. produced by Rogue. Every stitch, every screenprint, every embroider was a testament to the skill of local craftsmen who took pride in their work, just as the Rogue team did. Rogue Life Maine wasn’t just a name — it was a commitment to producing materials that reflected the values of this quiet, hardworking state.

A Lifestyle Built on Resilience

But Rogue Life Maine wasn’t just about manufacturing — it was about building a community of individuals who shared the same drive and dedication that the brand embodied. Whether in Maine or across the globe, those who used Rogue products became part of a greater movement.

The rugged landscapes of Maine, with its steep mountains, coastal cliffs, and winter winds, provided the perfect metaphor for the type of person who was drawn to Rogue Life. It was a life built on grit, endurance, and a love for the challenge. It didn’t matter if you were climbing mountains in the backwoods of Maine or just pushing yourself to be the best version of yourself — Rogue Life was about embracing that challenge with everything you had.

At the heart of Rogue Life Maine is a community of athletes, fitness enthusiasts, and everyday people who know that true strength comes not just from the muscles you build, but from the mindset you cultivate. The same values that shaped the production of Rogue’s products — durability, reliability, and strength — became the foundation for the community that formed around them.

The Future of Rogue Life Maine

Looking ahead, Rogue Life Maine continues to evolve, with new products, new initiatives, and a growing community of like-minded individuals. As the brand expands its reach globally, the roots in Maine remain firm — a constant reminder of where it all started and the values that continue to drive it forward. It’s about maintaining that commitment to craftsmanship, community, and strength that has always been at the heart of Rogue Life Maine.

Whether you're hiking the rugged Maine coast, or simply living your life with determination and grit, Rogue Life Maine is a reminder that true strength — like the land of Maine itself — is built slowly, steadily, and with purpose. And it’s a life worth living.

You can learn more about Rogue Life Maine by visiting their website.

Indigo Arts Alliance Builds Artist Relationships that Last a Lifetime Oct 09, 2024

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Jordia Benjamin, recognized in MaineBiz's "40 Under 40," is a prominent figure in the arts community. As the Executive Director of Indigo Arts Alliance, she focuses on supporting artists of color and fostering cultural representation. Benjamin's leadership emphasizes collaboration, creativity, and community engagement. Her work has significantly impacted the Maine arts landscape, promoting diversity and inclusion while nurturing emerging talent. Through her initiatives, she aims to inspire social change and enhance the visibility of underrepresented artists.

Kristan speaks to Jordia about her previous careers that helped her get to where she is today. The ones that have a really special place are those that continue to have an impact today. Twelve years ago, under the auspices of the National Art Gallery of the Bahamas, she created the first teacher's art resource guide (over 100 pages) that provided an art curriculum for each grade school level based on Bahamian artists and history. The guide is still in use today.

In addition to her work on an art resource guide, she fostered a program allowing gifted emerging Bahamian artists to exhibit their work alongside Bahamian masters in conjunction with the gallery, many of whom are now represented by international galleries and have exhibited in international museums.

Today, her work at Indigo Arts Alliance allows her to advance the professional development of Black and Brown artists aligning with her moral compass. With an amazing team, they can advance through their residency program, the artistic excellence of local/national and global creatives.

You can learn more about Indigo Arts Alliance by visiting their website.

Discovering the Artistry of Organ Building with Martin Pasi Dec 28, 2023

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[00:02:56] Organ building craftsmanship.

[00:03:58] Organ building and inspiration.

[00:10:37] Knowing music for organ building.

[00:14:22] Perfect facility for craft.

[00:20:53] The cost of organs.

[00:21:43] Organ building as mechanical design.

[00:27:11] Moon and farming practices.

[00:30:43] Two temperaments in organs.

[00:38:15] Organ pipes collapsing over time.

[00:40:21] Organ builders and bone materials.

[00:45:09] The gold leaf process.

[00:48:06] The weight of the organ.

[00:52:02] Community involvement in instrument care.

Organ building is a complex and intricate process that demands a significant investment of time and financial resources. In the episode, it is highlighted that churches and other organizations often face the challenge of securing funding and going through a lengthy organizational process before they can even begin constructing an organ. This can take years to accomplish as they work towards securing the necessary funds and finalizing arrangements.

The episode also sheds light on the cost of building an organ. It is mentioned that the average cost of an organ is around a million dollars, although this can vary depending on the size and complexity of the instrument. Larger organs can cost up to two million dollars or even more, while smaller organs may be priced at around five hundred thousand dollars.

The episode emphasizes the crucial role of careful planning and design in organ building. Before commencing the construction process, the organ builder must create a detailed design that ensures all components fit together harmoniously and allows each pipe to have sufficient space to produce sound. This meticulous process involves laying out thousands of pipes on templates and ensuring each one is of the correct size and position.

Organ building is a costly and time-consuming endeavor that necessitates extensive planning, funding, and organization. It is a process that requires both craftsmanship and artistry and scientific and mathematical skills.

The episode discusses the average cost of an organ, which is approximately a million dollars. The host inquires about the cost of organs, and the builder confirms that a million dollars is a typical average cost. However, the builder also mentions that the cost can vary, potentially reaching two million dollars or more for larger organs, or as low as five hundred thousand dollars for smaller organs. Therefore, while a million dollars is the average, the actual cost depends on the size and complexity of the organ.

Martin initially developed a passion for organ building at the age of 15. However, their parents discouraged them from pursuing it at that time, leading them to choose a business high school instead. Despite this, the desire to become an organ builder never left their mind.

After completing high school and entering adulthood, Martin felt a strong urge to engage in a craft and work with their hands. Organ building remained a lingering passion. Fortunately, they secured an apprenticeship position with a well-known and reputable organ-building company. Through this apprenticeship, they acquired the necessary skills and knowledge to install organs, tune them, and perform maintenance.

Eventually, Martin had the opportunity to travel to the United States multiple times a year for work. They received job offers from various organ builders, first in Minnesota and then in the Montreal area of Canada. Finally, they decided to move to the United States and work with another organ builder who intrigued them. This experience ultimately led the host to establish their own organ-building business.

Despite initially facing discouragement from their parents, Martin's passion for organ building never wavered. They pursued their passion, gained experience and knowledge through apprenticeships and job opportunities, and eventually established their own successful business in the field.

Nature's Influence on Art: A Conversation with Glass Artist Robert Adamson Dec 08, 2023

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[00:02:12] Meditation and spirituality.

[00:06:52] Eye-opening experiences in Colombia.

[00:08:03] Colorful nature in Colombia.

[00:12:24] Incorporating nature in glass art.

[00:16:00] Artistic inspiration from family.

[00:19:59] Getting into meditation.

[00:25:38] Challenging glass projects.

[00:29:38] Changing creative direction

[00:34:21] Seattle becoming a glassblowing center.

[00:36:10] Passing on glass blowing.

In this episode, Kristan and Rob delve into the practice of meditation, emphasizing its dedicated and daily nature, which takes several years to truly master. Drawing a parallel, Rob compares meditation to glassblowing, explaining that both require consistent practice over an extended period of time. They stress the importance of having a teacher to guide individuals through their meditation practice and also mention the benefits of having a dedicated meditation partner. The discussion highlights how meditation cultivates a calm and joyful state of mind, which in turn enhances creativity. The guest shares that their meditation practice is separate from their glassblowing, indicating that the two practices are distinct yet complementary. Overall, the episode underscores the commitment and daily practice required for meditation, emphasizing its positive impact on creativity.

The episode also explores how glassblowing can serve as a meditative activity, creating a serene and joyful space for creativity. The guest shares their personal experience, describing how glassblowing feels like a form of meditation to them. They explain that combining glassblowing with meditation brings about a sense of calm and joy that they cannot live without. The host agrees, adding that glassblowing helps individuals enter a calm and creative mindset, enabling them to work joyfully with their teams. Rob further emphasizes that despite any frustrations that may arise during the glassblowing process, one can always step back and find humor in the situation. This suggests that glassblowing not only provides a meditative and tranquil environment but also fosters a sense of joy and lightheartedness in the creative process. The host deepens the connection between glassblowing and meditation by inquiring if the guest's meditation teacher helped them understand how glassblowing can be a meditative practice. The guest confirms that while the teachings of glassblowing and meditation are separate, meditation has played a significant role in their life for several years.

Nature serves as a major source of inspiration for the artist's work, influencing their projects in profound ways. The artist explains that when they practice or seek to be creative, they tap into a place in their mind or on paper where ideas and colors flow, and nature is their primary wellspring of inspiration. They express that most of their work is influenced by nature, as they believe it excels in providing ideas worth borrowing. The artist also shares a favorite project in Seattle, where they were tasked with creating 200 pieces for a building's entrance. The client desired an ambiance that evoked a connection to nature. The artist designed a piece consisting of 250 glass elements, incorporating flowers, leaves, and cattails to capture the essence of nature. Throughout the episode, the artist's passion for nature and their desire to infuse its beauty into their work shines through.

Exploring the Artistic Journey: An Interview with David Syre Dec 01, 2023

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[00:02:45] David Seery's artistic journey.

[00:05:28] Selling milk at age seven.

[00:08:00] Land investments in North America.

[00:12:55] The elephant trailer.

[00:18:03] How long does it typically take you to make a piece?

[00:21:20] Dealing with pandemic challenges.

[00:25:02] Wine making.

[00:28:18] New stories wind their way.

David Syre's artistic practice is deeply rooted in spirituality, with their strongest mentors being the Dalai Lama and Mother Teresa. They believe that spirituality forms the foundation of their art, equating it with love, compassion, and forgiveness. Their art goes beyond aesthetics, aiming to evoke emotions and create a sense of awe through vibrant colors and a "wow factor." The influence of their mentors and spiritual beliefs is evident in shaping their artistic practice.

In the episode, David Syre emphasizes the importance of daily meditation and yoga practice. They believe that this routine sets the tone for their art, allowing them to tap into their subconscious mind and find inspiration. Living in the present moment and harnessing the energy from their core and heart brings forth images and ideas. The speaker also mentions the significance of daily walks, meditation, and breathing exercises in fueling their creativity. Their dedication to these practices is further highlighted by the presence of a dedicated yoga and meditation room on their property.

David Syre, shares his personal journey of transitioning from a career in business development to becoming an artist. Encouraging listeners to follow their passion, he believes that everyone has the potential to be an artist, regardless of their background or previous career. Seery emphasizes the importance of courage in pursuing a creative path, urging individuals to step forward and make their artistic aspirations a reality. Drawing inspiration from spiritual mentors and incorporating daily meditation and yoga, Syre's art is a testament to the power of embracing one's creativity.

Overall, the episode underscores the significance of embracing one's artistic side and having the courage to pursue a creative route. It highlights the role of spirituality, daily practices, and influential mentors in shaping an artist's journey.

Crafting Culinary Knives: An Interview with Master Bladesmith Bob Kramer Nov 21, 2023

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[00:04:13] High school challenges and dyslexia.

[00:09:23] Intriguing lifestyle at the country club.

[00:13:38] Reconsidering life and taking risks.

[00:18:40] Learning to sharpen knives.

[00:19:13] Knife sharpening journey.

[00:23:20] Science of steel and knives.

[00:28:25] Making your own steel.

[00:32:41] Making Japanese steel replica.

[00:36:02] Understanding steel and challenges.

[00:39:15] Overcoming failures in craftsmanship.

[00:44:21] The story behind Transformation.

[00:47:34] Putting energy into handmade objects.

[00:51:29] The business side of creativity.

[00:55:08] Crafts and minimalism trends.

[01:00:31] Midnight storms and love.

In the episode, Bob Kramer shared their struggles with college and their decision to pursue a non-traditional career path through travel. They expressed difficulty in succeeding academically, particularly with note-taking and retaining information. As a result, they reevaluated their aspirations of attending medical school, finding it overwhelming. They also dismissed career options like accounting or law, as they lacked passion and excitement.

Instead, the speaker felt a strong desire to explore the world and embrace a more adventurous lifestyle. They were inspired by the book "Dove," which ignited their dream of sailing from San Diego to Hawaii. Unlike the challenges of college, this book provided a sense of joy and excitement. The speaker set a goal to drive across the country, reach San Diego, and find a boat to embark on their sailing adventure, despite having limited sailing experience.

This decision to prioritize travel over a conventional career path reflects the speaker's yearning for a different kind of lifestyle. They sought adventure, excitement, and a sense of freedom that they couldn't find within the confines of traditional education. It also signifies a shift in priorities, as the speaker prioritizes personal fulfillment and happiness over societal expectations and conventional success.

Overall, the speaker's experience of struggling in college and subsequently choosing to travel underscores the importance of aligning one's path with their passions and desires. It highlights the value of exploring unconventional options and pursuing a lifestyle that brings joy and fulfillment, even if it deviates from societal norms.

In the episode, the host and guest discuss the growing trend of people valuing handmade and high-quality goods over mass-produced items. They observe that an increasing number of individuals are engaging in crafts such as leatherworking and metalworking, finding contentment in owning fewer possessions as long as they are of superior quality or handmade. This trend is not limited to the United States but is observed worldwide, with individuals in Asia also expressing a desire for a simpler lifestyle and a departure from long working hours. The host suggests that adjustments will be necessary in response to this trend, indicating that changes need to be made. They also note that younger people are opting out of the corporate world and embracing a more sustainable lifestyle, including traveling and building their own travel vans. Overall, the episode highlights the shift towards valuing handmade and high-quality goods and the potential impact this trend may have on various industries.

In the episode, the speaker emphasizes the significance of having a strong understanding of business and finances to succeed in a creative endeavor. They acknowledge that many creatives tend to overlook the business side of their work due to its challenging and dry nature. However, they stress that comprehending the business aspect is absolutely essential.

The speaker suggests that if someone recognizes their lack of aptitude for the business side, they should seek an ally who can assist them in that area. They specifically mention finding a business-minded bookkeeper and compensating them to provide guidance and direction for the creative individual. By acknowledging the importance of the business side and seeking assistance, one can avoid potential struggles and setbacks in the future.

The episode also dispels the romantic notion of instant success, emphasizing that there is much to learn in both the craft and business aspects of a creative endeavor. The speaker highlights the need to study the field, learn from past successes, and pay attention to the business side, even if it doesn't come naturally to the creative individual.

Overall, the episode underscores the necessity of having a strong understanding of business and finances or finding someone who can provide support in those areas, to thrive in a creative endeavor. It emphasizes the importance of being realistic about the challenges and being willing to put in the necessary work to navigate them.

Inside the Legendary London Bridge Studio: A Journey Through Rock and Roll History Nov 13, 2023

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[00:02:13] Exploring Seattle's local makers.

[00:05:22] The history behind London Bridge Studios.

[00:08:01] The London Bridge sound.

[00:12:31] Rock and roll influence.

[00:16:29] Local musicians in Washington.

[00:19:13] Recording and releasing music.

[00:22:10] Painting and creativity in music.

[00:26:58] Painting as therapeutic during pandemic.

[00:30:11] A spontaneous trip to Seattle.

The pandemic has had a profound impact on the mental health of musicians and those in the entertainment industry. Some musicians have found solace in their art, using it as a means of expression during these challenging times. However, for others, the pandemic has brought about deep depression as their livelihoods have been drastically affected. The cancellation of shows, the inability to rehearse with bandmates, and the loss of revenue have all contributed to the mental health challenges faced by musicians and those working behind the scenes in the entertainment industry. This episode highlights the contrasting experiences, with some individuals finding inspiration in their art while others struggle with the changes brought about by the pandemic. Overall, the pandemic has had a significant and dual effect on the mental health of musicians and those in the entertainment industry, leading to both creative expression and emotional challenges.

The episode focuses on the presence and importance of makers and creatives in the United States. The host emphasizes that many people tend to overlook the numerous artisans, craftsmen, photographers, musicians, and makers of all sorts in America, opting instead to buy products from major online retailers. The host highlights the historical significance of makers in America, dating back to the Industrial Revolution and even earlier, and emphasizes their contribution to the country's economy.

Furthermore, the episode explores the concept of being a "creative" and delves into the comfort level and self-consciousness that individuals may experience when identifying themselves as such. The guest shares their own creative process and mentions their interest in reading books as a hobby.

Additionally, the episode delves into the role of a producer in the music industry. The guest emphasizes the importance of understanding and embracing the individuality of the artist they work with, rather than imposing a signature sound or style on them. They stress the need to help the artist become the best version of themselves and fully understand their artistic identity.

Lastly, the episode briefly discusses the concept of "magic" in the context of a recording studio. The guest describes it as an intangible moment when everyone in the studio feels a connection and realizes that they have stumbled upon something special. This moment of magic can occur during playback, in the moment of recording, or even when listening back to a finished record later on.

The transcript highlights the roller coaster nature of the pandemic for musicians. The speaker mentions that they are currently under a mask mandate again, indicating the fluctuation between periods of reopening and closures. This inconsistency in restrictions and regulations has made it challenging for musicians to navigate and find stability. Some musicians have been inspired to write songs and express themselves during these challenging times, while others have experienced deep depression and a significant shift in their livelihoods. The transcript also touches on the mental health challenges faced by musicians and those in the entertainment industry, as well as the loss of revenue due to canceled shows and the impact on production managers and operations roles. Overall, the transcript suggests that the roller coaster nature of the pandemic has had a significant impact on musicians and their ability to find stability in their careers.

The episode expands on the presence of makers and artisans in the United States. It highlights the fact that many people tend to overlook the craftsmanship and creativity that exists within the country, opting instead to buy from major online retailers. The host emphasizes that America has a long history of makers, and there are thousands of artisans, craftsmen, photographers, musicians, and creatives who contribute to the country's economy.

Furthermore, the episode explores the idea of labeling oneself as a creative and the comfort level associated with it. The conversation between the host and the guest delves into their creative processes and hobbies outside of their main artistic pursuits. The guest mentions reading as a hobby, emphasizing the importance of books and the pleasure of flipping through their pages. The host also mentions painting as a therapeutic activity, which they had done before but rediscovered during the pandemic.

Additionally, the episode discusses the challenges faced by artisans in maintaining their craft. The guest talks about their studio's equipment, specifically a piece that was built in 1974 and is difficult to maintain due to the scarcity of certain parts. They highlight the importance of expertise in preserving the integrity of the equipment and the unique sound it produces.

Overall, the episode highlights the presence and importance of makers and artisans in the United States, their creative processes and hobbies, and the challenges they face in maintaining their craft.

In the episode, the guest discusses how engaging in creative outlets, particularly painting, can be therapeutic during difficult times. They mention that painting was a source of therapy for them during the pandemic. They also attribute their passion for painting to their bandmate, Kate, who is a true artist. The guest explains that while painting was always something they did on the side, mainly for album artwork or other auxiliary purposes, it became a significant outlet for them during the pandemic. This highlights the idea that engaging in creative activities, such as painting, can provide comfort and healing during challenging times.

Additionally, the guest and the host discuss the labeling of oneself as a creative and the associated comfort level. The guest mentions feeling self-conscious about identifying as a painter, suggesting that there may be a stigma or pressure associated with being labeled as a creative. This conversation suggests that individuals may have different perceptions of themselves as artists or creatives, and these perceptions can influence their engagement with creative outlets.

Overall, the episode highlights the therapeutic benefits of engaging in creative activities, particularly painting, during difficult times. It also explores the influence of other artists in inspiring and encouraging individuals to pursue their creative passions.

Model Airplane Creates A Unique Concert Experience, A Funksgiving You Will Never Forget Sep 27, 2023

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"I think our craft is just fun, partying. It's about playing music that we love with people that we love. I feel like a place called home is kind of the best representation of what we do, because I think we are a family. No matter whether anybody's here or not, we are going to be just laughing our asses off having a great time smiling at what everybody's doing. It feels like home every time that we play on stage. I think that we provide that for people that come through....we've been best friends since first grade, and second grade. And then we make a new best friend through our best friends who are all super talented and awesome and great to be around," said Lyle Divinsky, one of the founders and lead singer of Model Airplane.

Model Airplane is a collection of musicians that comes together every year to perform an ultimate show right around Thanksgiving, I find it quite unheard of as you would think musicians want to do their own thing or play with their band because they're used to it. They jibe with one another. It's their thing. Not only does the band see the curation of amazingly talented artists family, but they consider the audience family too. I've seen them three years in a row. And I truly feel this connection, the connection is unreal. And I want you to listen on what that connection entails. The band started as friends who knew each other growing up to then adding more members that are new friends.

"I'd say if there's one common denominator, it's relationships and word of mouth. People who know people refer those people and it's all just a mess, like, now a lot of it can be helped with like, online and stuff. But like, we are old school, it was totally just friends of friends. If it wasn't this core right here is just a referral kind of thing, but nothing formal about it."

The show is quite the production as the musicians are coming together from all over the nation. But in the end it's all worth it.

"I come here and this is how I hang out with my friends, we make music together. We're lucky to do it at a really high level, you know, make really great music together. If the vibe is right, then you're in the family, and that's where you stay, you know, you do your work, we all work really hard. I mean, we've got this kind of monster rehearsals and these weeks are always really interesting. Like Thanksgiving week is like two, five or six-hour rehearsals and then two, like full day long kind of shows that go on and on and on. It's long days, but there, but it's like a family reunion the whole time. You know, like, these are my people,"

Tune in to this episode to learn more about Model Airplane.

They will be performing at Aura on Saturday, November 25th at Aura. Doors open at 8pm and the show starts at 9pm. Tickets are sold here.