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    Main Justice

    Main Justice is the next era of legal analysis from Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord, the veteran lawyers behind the hit podcast Prosecuting Donald Trump. As the Trump administration wields its power, Andrew and Mary draw on their extensive experience working within the Department of Justice to break down what’s happening inside Trump’s DOJ. Each week, they use their platform on Main Justice to safeguard against assaults on our laws, our Constitution, and our democracy.

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    Election Stakes Oct 28, 2024
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    With eight days to go until Election Day, veteran prosecutors Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann tackle several issues related to the vote and its aftermath: if Donald Trump doesn’t win the election, could his DC criminal case be dismissed based on the Appointments Clause? Can a president use the military domestically against "the enemy within" despite the constraints of the Posse Comitatus Act? Will another ‘red mirage’ followed by a ‘blue shift’ cause the former president to cry foul and call for stopping the electoral count? And, will Elon Musk and his America PAC be held liable for paying residents in swing states to register? Andrew and Mary address these questions and remind listeners to vote!

    Further Reading: Andrew and Ryan Goodman's recent piece on Just Security: An Overlooked January 6 Charge: The “Stop the Count” Scheme

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    Brady and a Bunch More Oct 22, 2024
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    There’s been a flood of activity recently in Judge Tanya Chutkan’s DC courtroom. In the last week, she released a 50-page ruling on several outstanding issues including the Brady doctrine, a pretrial discovery rule requiring the government to share all exculpatory evidence with Donald Trump’s defense team. MSNBC legal analysts Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann shed some light on the judge’s decisions and detail the release of the Special Counsel’s heavily redacted appendix, which was unsealed last Friday. Also in the hopper: an explainer on Jack Smith's response to a renewed motion from Trump’s legal team to dismiss the DC case based on the Supreme Court's Fischer decision on obstruction. And lastly, Andrew and Mary head to Florida where Ryan Ruth, the suspect in the second assassination attempt against the former president, asked Judge Aileen Cannon to recuse herself from the case.

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    Stays and Delays Oct 15, 2024
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    Last week, the DC election interference case inched forward, as Judge Tanya Chutkan approved the public release of Jack Smith’s redacted source documents that helped frame his already public immunity briefing. But she also agreed to stay that release until October 17th, as Trump’s legal team decides if they want to seek an appeal. MSNBC legal analysts Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann walk through how that scenario might play out, and why it could become a moot point after Thursday. Then, they take aim at critics who’ve been publicly decrying the release of the government’s immunity briefing, by pointing out that the DOJ’s “60-day rule” is not a law, and that the guidance is for new matters, not for cases that have already been charged. And before wrapping up, Andrew and Mary give their read on the disturbing politicization of FEMA's disaster response and answer a few listener questions.

    Further Reading: As Andrew mentioned, here is his piece, co-authored with Ryan Goodman, on Just Security: Refuting the Latest Baseless Attacks Against Special Counsel Jack Smith.

    Also, just two more days to vote! Prosecuting Donald Trump and Into America have been nominated for the Signal Listener's Choice Award! And MSNBC needs your help to win. Use the links below to vote for both shows:

    Prosecuting Donald Trump in the Shows - News & Politics category.

    Into America presents: Uncounted Millions in the Limited Series & Specials - Money & Finance category and Limited Series & Specials - News & Politics categories.

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    Listen to “Kamala: Next in Line” Oct 09, 2024
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    Election Day is around the corner and Vice President Kamala Harris could become the first woman, first Black woman, and first South-Asian to sit in the Oval Office. In light of this moment, we’re resharing our 2020 series “Kamala: Next in Line,” from MSNBC and Wondery. Hosted by Joy Reid, "Next In Line" is an intimate and immersive look into what drives Harris, what her critics say about her, and how she arrived at this historic moment.

    This is a special program for our MSNBC Premium subscribers. Listen to an excerpt from the first episode here. And to download the full series, sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. You’ll find the series in the How to Win feed.

    Plus, as a subscriber, you’ll get all MSNBC original podcasts ad-free, along with bonus exciting content from Prosecuting Donald Trump, Rachel Maddow, and more. Thanks for listening and subscribing!

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    Office Seeker vs. Office Holder Oct 08, 2024
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    After Judge Tanya Chutkan ordered a redacted version of the government's filing on immunity to be released, new information about Donald Trump’s post-election efforts came to light. Jack Smith argues that the allegations detailed in the filing were "fundamentally" done as a candidate, and not in an official capacity. Veteran prosecutors Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann frame the government's case, describing the new allegations now in the public sphere and Trump’s continued assertion that this is “election interference.” Then, they review another motion to dismiss brought by Trump’s lawyers, this one referencing the Fischer case.

    Also, some exciting news! Prosecuting Donald Trump and Into America have been nominated for the Signal Listener's Choice Award! And MSNBC needs your help to win. Use the links below to vote for both shows:

    • Prosecuting Donald Trump in the Shows - News & Politics category.
    • Into America presents: Uncounted Millions in the Limited Series & Specials - Money & Finance category and Limited Series & Specials - News & Politics categories.

    Further Reading: Here is Special Counsel Jack Smith’s unsealed Motion for Immunity Determinations.

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    Redactions and Reactions Oct 01, 2024
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    In the DC election interference case, Special Counsel Jack Smith filed his 180-page opening brief under seal last week, along with a request to release a redacted version to the public. MSNBC legal analysts Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann analyze how this will play out, what aspects would need to be removed, and if/when the public might see a redacted version. Then, they head north to Manhattan, where a 5-judge panel held oral arguments in Donald Trump’s appeal of his New York civil fraud judgement. And a few other headlines grabbed Andrew and Mary’s attention this week from former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, current New York Mayor Eric Adams, and a defamation lawsuit from Springfield, Ohio. Plus: time to answer a few listener questions.

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    Ms. McCord Goes to Washington Sep 25, 2024
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    Tuesday, the Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing titled: “‘When the President Does It, that Means It’s Not Illegal’: The Supreme Court’s Unprecedented Immunity Decision”, and MSNBC legal analyst Mary McCord was called to testify before the committee. She and Andrew Weissmann reflect on what she laid out for the Senators concerning the fallout from the Supreme Court’s immunity decision. Then, they review the flurry of filings in Trump’s DC election interference case, where Jack Smith’s team is expected to file a substantial opening brief on Thursday. And lastly, after weeks of harassment and bomb threats, a non-profit group in Springfield, Ohio filed citizen-led criminal charges against Donald Trump and JD Vance for repeating lies that have allegedly led to threats against Haitian immigrants living in the community.

    Further reading:

    • Here is Mary’s opening statement before the Senate Judiciary Committee.
    • Here is the Just Security piece Andrew mentioned from Adam Klasfeld and Ryan Goodman, citing twelve instances of targeting supposed foes during the Trump administration: Chronology of a Dozen Times Trump Pushed to Prosecute His Perceived Enemies

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    Election Security Matters Sep 18, 2024
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    As the FBI continues to investigate the second apparent Trump assassination attempt, MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord describe the charges brought and the reasoning behind them. Then, they move to the latest out of Georgia after Judge McAfee dismissed three counts from the 41-count indictment, while allowing the rest to go forward. And lastly, Mary and Andrew welcome Adav Noti, Executive Director of the Campaign Legal Center, to calm some concerns about certain jurisdictions refusing to certify this November's election results.

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    MSNBC Live: Democracy 2024 Sep 11, 2024
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    We’re thrilled to share a mashup of our MSNBC Live: Democracy 2024 event that we recently held at the Brooklyn Academy of Music. The whole day was a celebration of you, our viewers and listeners. It was the first of its kind in-person, interactive experience. We so enjoyed meeting so many of you. But if you couldn’t join us in person, you’re in luck – we’re sharing key conversations in this episode. For more, be sure to check out our TV special airing Saturday, September 14th at 9 p.m. ET. For your reference, here are timecodes for the sessions included here:
    Claire McCaskill, Jen Psaki, and Andrea Mitchell 0:01:30-0:31:23

    Chris Hayes & Kate Shaw 0:31:36-0:51:20

    Andrew Weissmann & Ari Melber 0:51:25-1:12:53

    Rachel Maddow & Lawrence O’Donnell 1:13:13-1:45:45

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    A Tale of Two Courtrooms Sep 10, 2024
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    There was a lot of movement late last week in Donald Trump’s ongoing criminal cases in DC and New York, but with very different results. Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord review last Thursday’s status hearing in Trump’s DC election interference case and break down the new deadlines set in Judge Chutkan’s scheduling order. Then, they dig into the nuance of Judge Merchan’s decision to push back the date of Trump’s sentencing, as well as delaying his ruling on how immunity applies to the case until after the November election. And before winding up today’s episode, Mary and Andrew give their uniquely informed take on the DOJ’s actions regarding Russian efforts to interfere and influence the 2024 election.

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