Love or Work

The Finale I Andre & Jeff Shinabarger Apr 25, 2023

Six years ago, we set out to answer this question, “Is it possible change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family,” with the goal of interviewing 100 couples, while learning as much we could from others. We did that and more.Thank you for joining us on this journey. The podcast will live on as a resource, and we hope you will continue to use it and share it wth others.In the final episode, we talk about the journey, why this project is coming to an end, and some of our biggest takeaways.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Q & A I Andre & Jeff Shinabarger Apr 18, 2023

This week we are hearing from the co-hosts of the Love or Work Podcast Andre and Jeff Shinabarger. In this episode, you can listen out for these three things: relationship advice, career reflections, and personal reflections. Andre and Jeff are answering five questions that have been narrowed down from listeners' questions. Andre and Jeff reflect on their own life, relationship, and careers and share insightful advice on how to successfully pursue all three of these categories.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

The Wages of Love I Tera & Wes Wages Apr 11, 2023

In this episode of the Love or Work Podcast we are interviewing Tera and Wes Wages.Tera is the CEO of Connection Codes an organization that helps people get unstuck in their marriages and Wes is the CEO of Armosa Studios, a video/photo marketing company and together they host the “Get It” podcast. During this interview Tera and Wes are brutally honest and vulnerable with us about their story and struggles throughout their marriage. Make sure to listen out for these two things: America’s Funniest Home Videos and 75 Hard.

Use code LOVEORWORK to get 20% off the Foundations Course and
www.connectioncodes.co to download the Core Emotion Wheel that Tera Talks about in the episode.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Checking In l André & Jeff Shinabarger Apr 04, 2023

This week we are hearing from the co-hosts of the Love or Work Podcast Andre and Jeff Shinabarger. In this episode, you can listen out for these three things: when Andre and Jeff have felt love for eachother, six important questions that should be discussed in relationships, and their own answers to these six questions. This episode follows Andre and Jeff reflecting on their relationship, and making the time to have discussions that are often overlooked in daily life.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

How to Stay Married | Melissa & Dustin Nickerson Mar 28, 2023

This week we are hearing from Dustin and Melissa Nickerson. Dustin Nickerson is a stand-up comedian, and an author who recently published the book “How to Be Married (to Melissa). Melissa Nickerson is the CFO of Dustin Nickerson Comedy. Dustin and Melissa Nickerson co-host a podcast about family, relationships, and comedy called “Don’t Make Me Come Back There”. In this episode, you can listen out for these three things: Legoland Sex, posting a vacation picture, and that there’s no losing or failing in marriage and relationships. Dustin and Melissa share their journey from being high-school sweethearts, to navigating through growing individually while still building and maintaining a strong relationship with each other and their family.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Acts of Service I Nate & Tuere K Butler Mar 21, 2023

This week on the Love or Work Podcast, we are learning from Nate and Tuere K. Butler! Nate is a music producer, artist, performer, casting director, and more - a man of many talents. Tuere is the Director of Operations at Plywood People and former District Director working with Congressman Lewis. This couple is full of good stories, wise words, and so much love for each other and their community. Nate and Tuere have supported each other through seasons of job changes and health challenges, and they share their learnings with us candidly. Their life is a reflection of their values - from generosity to service. Lean in, and learn with us!

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Versions on Love I Allyssa & Andrea Connor Mar 14, 2023

In this episode we are interviewing Allyssa and Andrea, who have been married 26 years. For the first time, we learn about the transgender issue and are challenged by what length are you willing to fall in love with the next version of your partner? They share how their marriage has been strengthened through their changes, even with all the complexities. In this episode we decided to choose to learn from someone different than us and chose to learn through relationship. We always say “You have to continually fall in love with the next version of your partner.” No one exemplifies this difficult commitment more than this interview. We encourage you to tune in if you want to learn a new perspective on commitment.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

From Then to Now I Megan & Ashley Carr Mar 07, 2023

This week we are hearing from Megan and Ashley Carr. Megan is a 7th grade science teacher and Ashley is an Episcopal Priest. Ashley and Megan share about their love story, which in true Atlanta fashion starts off at Taqueria De Sol. Now with a 2 year old and a baby on the way, Ashley and Megan share what life looks like now. Look out for these 3 things, solo time, being a pastor’s kid, and the family with the three legged dog. Let’s get to it!

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Supporting the LGBTQ Community | B.T. Harman Feb 28, 2023

This week we are hearing from B.T. Harman. B.T. Harman is the Creator of the Blue Babies Pink Podcast, where he shares his journey of being a gay Christian in the American South. He is also the founder of Harbor, an online support program for Christian parents of LGBTQ kids.

In this episode you can listen out for these three things: what to do when a loved one comes out as a part of the LGBTQ community, how to have real conversations with people you love, and how to support your loved ones in their coming out journey. B.T. Harman offers advice to parents and others who are supporting their loved ones to explore and identify themselves on the LGBTQ spectrum, as well as, share his own personal story of coming out.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

The Balance of Love l Prop & Alma Feb 21, 2023

This week we are hearing from Dr. Alma Zaragoza-Petty and Propaganda. Dr. Alma is a university professor and author of “Chingona: Owning Your Inner Badass for Healing and Justice”. Prop is a rapper, activist, author of “Terraform: Building a Better World”, and founder of Terraform Cold Brew Coffee. Alma and Prop discuss navigating their personal careers and goals while simultaneously balancing raising their family and growing their relationship with each other. Tune in!

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Mom Who Works I Jenna Worthen Feb 14, 2023

Happy Valentine's day to all who celebrate and all who don’t. Jeff and Andre kick off the conversation with their disagreements about V-day. But one thing they do agree on is how important this next conversation is.

On this episode we are welcoming Jenna Worthen who started “Mom Who Works” an organization centered around redefining what it means to be a working Mom. Jennas work is at the center of why we started this project. In this episode you can listen out for these three things, “working moms”, who said that?, and the Mom’s Who Work grid. If you are caught in the middle of the chaos of being a Mom who works this conversation is for you.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

We are back with Jeff & André Feb 07, 2023

We are back! In the final Season of the Love or Work podcast, we are diving in.

There are no rules - maybe the episode features a couple, or maybe it's an individual. We feature couples from the LGBTQ+ community, we hear firsthand from people about what they are learning, and we talk to couples in all seasons of life. This season is full of conversations we've wanted to have for a while.

We believe that you can learn something from anyone. So put in your headphones, go for a walk, maybe grab a cup of coffee, and let's see what we can take from an incredible group of people.

Ch 12: Labor of Love w/ Jeff and André Shinabarger Mar 29, 2022

On this Episode of the Love or Work Podcast, Jeff and André share their thoughts on their last chapter “Labor of Love”. Today they are discussing plot twists and how covid was the most recent one to take place in all of our lives. Listen in for the plot twist, sub plot twist and constant evaluations you may face in your relationships. Listen in for the 5 questions you should talk about with your partner. Share your thoughts with your spouse and see where the new version of yourself blossoms in your relationship. Remember that the versions of yourself will always change but something that has to stay the same is the intentionality of understanding, learning, and being curious about the new version of your partner.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Ch 10 + 11: Intentional Father w/ John Tyson Mar 22, 2022

In today's episode, we invited John Tyson to share his thoughts on Chapters 10 and 11 of Love or Work with André and Jeff. John is a pastor who lives in New York City and recently released his book "The Intentional Father." In his book, he speaks on a guide of raising sons of courage and character. Though the book speaks on a father raising his sons, women too can grasp a great concept from him on today’s podcast. Listen for some great details, advice, and perspectives that he talks about on the podcast.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Ch 9: Lets Talk About Sex w/ Celeste Holbrook Mar 15, 2022

This week we are hearing from Celeste Holbrook. Celeste is a sexologist, speaker, and author and is with us today to talk about sex. Today we’re diving into chapter 9 and getting into a broader aspect of sex. On the podcast, you should listen out for some key points that we’ll be hitting on. Listen out for purity culture, sex being a negotiation, developing a sexual ethic, and sexual resilience. You can hear more from Celeste and take some virtual courses from her website at https://www.drcelesteholbrook.com. We promise you’re gonna wanna take notes for your partner!

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!

Website:

www.loveorwork.com

Instagram:

www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.

Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.

www.plywoodpeople.com

Is Divorce an Option? w/ Jeff & André Mar 08, 2022

On this Episode of the Love or Work Podcast Jeff and André get real about their thoughts on divorce. Listen in as they talk about a whole range of topics such as ,Why friends avoid telling them about their divorces, individual health vs institution of marriage and their thoughts on phrases such as “ Divorce is the easy way out.” and “My marriage failed.” This conversation is so important to Jeff and Andre because Love or Work is about encouraging people in relationships to stay healthy…NOT for encouraging people to stay in unhealthy relationships.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Chapter 7 + 8: Stretching Your Band w/ Lynn Mercer, Heather Trilling, and Callie Rich Mar 01, 2022

On today’s episode we invited Lynn Mercer, Heather Trilling, and Callie Rich to share their thoughts on Chapter 7 and 8 with Andre and Jeff. These three amazing friends are all in different ages and stages of life and are sharing their perspective and experiences they have faced. Listen out for these three things on how to manage care and capacity, vacations, and getting away. If you are looking for a way to balance care and capacity in your family or relationship, this is the podcast for you!

Stay tuned next week for a special episode. We will be taking a short break from the book to help you catch up and to hear this incredible conversation.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Ch 5 + 6: Love Languages w/ Erika Brown, Dawntoya Thomason & Cristina Mineo Feb 22, 2022

This week we are hearing from Erika Brown, Dontoya Thompson, and Cristina Mineo. Erika is a real estate entrepreneur helping people build their wealth and is an amazing go-getter. Dawntoya is a homeschool teacher and is also in school getting her interior design degree and she’s going after her dreams. Cristina is a home renovator and is really killing the game. You will definitely resonate with one of these women and how they feel about chapters 5 & 6. Listen out for these three things on how you may engage your own life, your own relationships, and how these principles can connect with you and your partner.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Ch 3 + 4: Percentages & Purpose w/ Adam Thomason & Johnathan Rich Feb 15, 2022

On Today's episode we invited, Adam "Lumkile” Thomason who is a three time award winning documentarian, writer and filmmaker and Co-founder of 3Strandfilms and Jonathan Rich who is the founder, innovator, & lead agent of J.Rich Atlanta, to sit down and discuss Chapter 3 and 4 with Andre and Jeff. Three things to look out for, Michele Obama's dad, privilege and purpose. Adam and Johnathan both bring very unique perspectives to the table, both drawing from their personal experiences and upbringings to point out what they believe was maybe lacking in the research. This conversation is challenging and hopeful, it reminds us of where this project started and pushes us forward towards a new future.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!

Website:

www.loveorwork.com

Instagram:

www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.

Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.

www.plywoodpeople.com

CH 1 + 2 Going Bananas with Jesse & Emily Cole Feb 08, 2022

We are kicking off Season 5 of the Love or Work podcast with a great first episode. André and Jeff sit down with Jesse and Emily, the Owners of the minor League baseball team “The Savannah Bananas'' based out of Savannah, Georgia. The first two chapters of the “Love or Work” book are filled with lots of adventure, which Jesse and Emily know ALOT about. We promise you this episode is BANANAS!
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About Season 5: We are so excited to announce that for Season 5 we are hosting a Love or Work Book Club. This week is the announcement! Next week, we will launch with an intro episode. We want to give you enough time to get your book, find another couple or two, and plan your book club! We will release a new episode every Tuesday that you can use to help deepen your book club discussion. These episodes will provide a fresh perspective outside of what's in the book.

Here's the schedule:
2/1 - The Set up
2/8 - CH 1 + 2
2/15 - CH 3 + 4
2/22 - CH 5 + 6
3/1 - CH 7 + 8
3/8 - CH 9
3/15 - CH 10 + 11
3/22 - CH 12
3/29 - Wrap up

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Season 5: Book Club Feb 01, 2022

It has been two years since we released our book “Love or Work”. A lot of life has happened in between those two years. We have experienced hard things, learned important lessons and have grown not only together but also as individuals. So, we decided it’s time to read our book again and we would love for you to join us. We have some incredibile friends that are gonna join us this season to share their thoughts and sometimes disagreements with what they read. So grab your book, join a book club and let’s get to it!

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About Season 5: We are so excited to announce that for Season 5 we are hosting a Love or Work Book Club. This week is the announcement! Next week, we will launch with an intro episode. We want to give you enough time to get your book, find another couple or two, and plan your book club! We will release a new episode every Tuesday that you can use to help deepen your book club discussion. These episodes will provide a fresh perspective outside of what's in the book.

Here's the schedule:
2/1 - The Set up
2/8 - CH 1 + 2
2/15 - CH 3 + 4
2/22 - CH 5 + 6
3/1 - CH 7 + 8
3/8 - CH 9
3/15 - CH 10 + 11
3/22 - CH 12
3/29 - Wrap up

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100+ interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Announcing the Love or Work Book Club! | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Jan 26, 2022

We are so excited to announce that for Season 5 we are hosting a Love or Work Book Club. This week is the announcement! Next week, we will launch with an intro episode setting the whole thing up. We want to give you enough time to get your book, find another couple or two, and plan your book club! We will release a new episode every Tuesday that you can use to help deepen your Book Club discussion. These episodes will provide a fresh perspective outside of what's in the book. Each week we will also have some questions to talk through available through Instagram (@loveorwork)!

Here's the schedule:
2/1 - The Set up
2/8 - CH 1 + 2
2/15 - CH 3 + 4
2/22 - CH 5 + 6
3/1 - CH 7 + 8
3/8 - CH 9
3/15 - CH 10 + 11
3/22 - CH 12
3/29 - Wrap up

Real Talk with André & Jeff Oct 26, 2021

On this episode of the Love or Work Podcast we wrap up Season 4 with a vulnerable conversation with André & Jeff. On this episode André & Jeff get real about their ongoing journeys with wellness and their current struggles with their mental health. We get a front row seat as they interview each other about the weight of both of their work and how that has affected their wellness. They get vulnerable in discussing grief, therapy and anxiety. This conversation opens a new door for all of us to understand and draw closer to our partners instead of pushing each other away. We hope this episode inspires you to ask yourself and your partner, “ What is the weight you are carrying around?” Let’s get to it!

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!

Website:

www.loveorwork.com

Instagram:

www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.

Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.

www.plywoodpeople.com

Date Night Q & A I Laurie Watson Oct 19, 2021

We are coming in REAL HOT with this week's episode with our Q & A from our Love or Work Date Night. Jeff and Andre sit down with Sex Therapist, Laurie Watson. Laurie Watson is a certified sex therapist and host of the popular podcast Foreplay - Radio Sex Therapy, covering intimacy and healthy sexual relationships. She is also the author of Wanting Sex Again - How to Rediscover Your Desire and Heal a Sexless Marriage.

We all have questions about sex and this epsidoe answers ALOT of them. Some of them to look out for are: How much sex is enough? How do I talk to my partner about sex? How can I initiate sex with my partner?

Getting help for sex is something that we dont do culturally. We hope this conversation changes that. Let’s get to it!

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Date Night I Laurie Watson Oct 12, 2021

This week on the Love or Work Podcast we have a special episode for you. We recently had the pleasure of having Laurie Watson as a guest speaker at our Date Night for Love or Work. Laurie Watson is a certified sex therapist and host of the popular podcast Foreplay - Radio Sex Therapy, covering intimacy and healthy sexual relationships. She is also the author of Wanting Sex Again - How to Rediscover Your Desire and Heal a Sexless Marriage. Here are three things you can listen out for in today's episode : Emotional Pursuer & Withdrawler, the push and pull, and the 40 minute rule. Laurie shared this important message with a room full of couples and now we are bringing it to you. We hope this conversation will encourage you to draw closer with your partner and lead to deeper intimacy. Here we go!

Next Steps:

We have put together some next steps for you and your partner to continue the conversation.

Listen to Laurie's Podcast “Foreplay Radio” for a deeper understanding of what it means to be an Emotional Pursuer or Withdrawer and how to break the cycle.

Visit omgyes.com, as mentioned in Laurie’s talk, for more tips and guides to understanding female pleasure.

Spiritual Wellness I Brandi Miller Oct 05, 2021

On episode 6 of Season 4 we are talking to Brandi Miller about Spiritual Wellness. Brandi is the host of the “ Reclaiming my Theology” podcast and is a staff member and justice program director with InterVarsity. Formally penning an op-ed for the HuffPost at the intersection of faith, justice, and politics, she seeks to curate content that moves the Church forward in living out the holistic gospel. Her current focuses are deconstructing white supremacy in the church, ethnic identity development, and creating more just faith organizations. Three things to listen out for in today's podcast are the 4 part quadrant, spiritual numbness, and the feelings wheel. As we are talking about wellness in this podcast series: mind, body, and now soul; Brandi talks us through why she believes the spirit and the soul is so important in our wellness journey. Wherever you land on the spiritual spectrum, we believe this conversation is important, and we can’t wait for you to listen.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

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Website: www.loveorwork.com
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Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

More Than a Body I Dr. Lexie Kite Sep 28, 2021

On episode 5 of Season 4 on the Podcast we are talking to Dr. Lexie Kite. Dr. Lexie Kite is a co-author with her identical twin Dr. Lindsay Kite of the book More Than a Body: Your Body Is an Instrument, Not an Ornament and co-director of the nonprofit Beauty Redefined. She received a PhD from the University of Utah in the study of female body image and has become a leading expert in body image resilience and media literacy. Lindsay and Lexie help girls and women recognize and reject the harmful effects of objectification in their lives through their significant social media reach, online Body Image Resilience course and facilitator program for dieticians and therapists, their popular book (More Than a Body), and regular speaking engagements for thousands of people of all ages. We hit on alot of new topics today around body image, a couple to look out for are body image resilience and body neutrality. Lexie teaches us how to get back into our bodies and view them as so much more than an ornament and reshape our thinking to view our bodies as an instrument. Can’t wait to hear what you learn!

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.
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Supporting Your Partner I Monica DiCristina Sep 21, 2021

Today on the Love or Work podcast we have Monica DiCristina. Monica DiCristina is a Licensed Professional Counselor with more than a decade of experience in individuals and couples therapy. She walks with people as they process difficult experiences, helping to bring healing to their relationship with themselves and others. Through her podcast, writing, speaking, and counseling work, Monica carries out her heartfelt mission to guide and collaborate with others in their process of becoming who they were made to be. Monica runs a private practice in Atlanta, GA, where she lives with her husband and three children.

Here are the three things to listen out for in this episode, anxiety, rituals and being married to an anxious partner. This episode is for the partners who are in need of a guide on how to approach and engage with your partner that is struggling with mental health. Don’t miss this important message.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Finding Your Purpose I Chanel Dokun Sep 14, 2021

Today we are hearing from Chanel Dokun. Chanel is an Author, Life Planner, and a Relationship Expert, trained in marriage and family therapy. In addition to launching the Women of Consequence organization to help women get clarity on their life purpose, she is also the Co-Founder of Healthy Minds NYC.

Here are three things to listen up for in today’s episode: what does it mean to have a thriving family, reclaim the morning, drowning in shallow water. In this episode Chanel talks alot about how to find your purpose in life by naming your unhappiness and stepping into the next right thing. Let’s get to it!

You can connect with Chanel at http://chaneldokun.com and on Instagram @ https://www.instagram.com/chanel.dokun/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.
Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Are You Really Ok? l Debra Fileta Sep 07, 2021

This week we are hearing from Debra Fileta, Debra is a Licensed Professional Counselor, national speaker, relationship expert, and author of Choosing Marriage and True Love Dates, and Love In Every Season and Are You Really OK?. She’s also the host of the hotline-style Love + Relationships Podcast. Her popular relationship advice blog, TrueLoveDates.com, reaches millions of people with the message of healthy relationships.

Here are three things to listen up for in today's episode: emotional black and blue buttons, burnout, and Sunday night check-ins. This episode reminds us to check in with ourselves and ask ourselves and those around us “Are you really okay?” and what to do when the answer is no. Let’s dive in.
Register for the Love or Work Date Night on October 2nd!

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Season 4: Wellness I Andre & Jeff Shinabarger Aug 31, 2021

We are back! In Season 3 we covered all things Parenting, ranging from how to talk to your kids about race and racism to how to talk to them about the birds and the bees, and everything in between.

Since wrapping up Season 3, we took some time off to spend time with our family and to take a big deep breath. This leads us to our theme for this series: Wellness. This is all about how to build and sustain healthy relationships. What does it look like to be a healthy YOU? And eventually a healthy WE. As we dive headfirst into this subject we will be accompanied by a wise counsel of therapists, licensed counselors, etc. If you are struggling with mental health issues or you are in a relationship with someone who is, we made this for you. We are glad you're on this journey with us!

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Dream Big! I Bob Goff Aug 10, 2021

We've got a bonus episode for you this week! We are hearing from Bob Goff. Bob is a lawyer, speaker, and author of the New York Times best-selling books Love Does and Everybody, Always. Goff currently works with Love Does, formerly known as Restore International, a non-profit organization he founded. In this episode, you can listen out for a couple of things: Arguments vs Relationships and the difference between oneness and sameness.

Bob is a man with a deep love for all things new, scary and challenging. His life is a constant adventure and he shares with us what it looks like to prioritize your family in the midst of all of it. This is an episode you don't want to miss. Jump in with us because it's a good one. Bob gets real and talks about the challenges of being in long-term committed relationships and then serves up hope for us all!

Learn more about Bob and his work!

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Parenting Wrap-Up | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Jun 29, 2021

“The character of our children is more important than their cultural success.” - Andre Shinabarger. In this episode, Andre and Jeff wrap up their discussion around parenting. Look out for an interview about Andre’s idea of ‘raising humans’ and the evolution of parenting within each season of life. They talk through a couple of key quotes from Love or Work & some closing thoughts for the series.

They have a new series in the works, theme yet to be revealed….get excited for some new episodes coming at the end of the summer.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.
Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Talking to Kids about Race and Racism | Claudine Miles Jun 22, 2021

This week we have the gift of learning from Claudine Miles. Claudine is a consultant and educator who has experience working with, Atlanta Public Schools, Teach for America, the CDC, and more. Additionally, she is the co-founder of Restore More, a local to Atlanta organization that supports others with building capacity for restorative practices, self-awareness, & social-emotional learning. In this episode, we cover how to talk to kids about race and racism. Claudine shares a fresh perspective that gives us practical advice and challenges our ways of thinking and doing. Listen up for these three things: Dwayne White, the word ‘colorblind’, and the white dads. This episode shows how bias is not inherently a bad thing, but learning what to do with your bias and how to grow from it is vital. Additionally, Miles emphasizes the importance of getting kids involved with a diverse community early on.

Learn more about Restore More at www.werestoremore.com and follow them on Instagram at @werestoremore

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.
Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

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Parenting and Gender Norms | Dr.Colleen and Andrew Kraft Jun 15, 2021

This week we are hearing from Andrew and Colleen Kraft. Andrew is a stay-at-home dad of three boys and the founder of Dwell Service, a cleaning company that employs refugee women in Clarkston, Georgia. Colleen is the Associate Chief Medical Officer at Emory University. In this episode, you can listen out for these three things: gender norms, the stress of being a breadwinner, and technology. One bonus thing to listen for: Ebola! Andrew and Colleen discuss raising their sons, navigating their individual jobs and responsibilities, and how the pandemic has changed their family’s life.

Learn more about Dwell Service at www.dwellservice.com

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!

Website:

www.loveorwork.com

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Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.

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Technology with Kids | Matt McKee Jun 08, 2021

Today's episode is a doozy. It's incredibly challenging yet vitally important. We are talking about all things technology in relation to kids: the stats, time limits, how to monitor what they're doing, how to have the conversations, and more. We are talking to Matt McKee, Author of "Parenting in a Tech World" and VP of Strategic Partnerships at Bark. Three things to listen out for: a documentary on technology to watch with your kids, the Change.org petition, and the real-life stats. Join us as we dive into how to have a relationship with our kids in relation to technology.

Sign the Petition: Change.org - Let Parents Protect
Monitor the apps: Bark
Watch the Documentary: Childhood 2.0
Buy the Book: Parenting in a Techworld

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Join us at PlywoodPresents.com
Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
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Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

How to Raise Successful People | Esther Wojcicki Jun 01, 2021

This week we are hearing from Esther Wojcicki, author of How to Raise Successful People. Esther is known as the Godmother of Silicon Valley and is known as a legendary teacher, and mother of a super-family. Her daughters are absolutely amazing women: The CEO of YoutTube, Co-founder of 23andMe, and an Asst Professor of Pediatrics at UCSF. Listen up for three things: the TRICK, swimming at 12 months, and Elon Musk.

Esther is giving our listeners three months free of her app, Tract; a learning app for kids ages 8-15 years old. Visit woj.tract.app and use code "WOJ" to redeem this offer.
Check out her book!
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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Minimalism with Kids | Christina + Dan Ketmayura May 25, 2021

This week we hear from Christina and Dan Ketmayura, Founders of Tokki Goods and creators of The Minimalist Baby Book. In this episode, we hear about the challenges of taking turns being entrepreneurs, raising a young family, and their experience as an Asian American couple. Dan and Christina share their "dreamy" love story, talk about their different cultural backgrounds, and more!

Learn more: https://tokkigoods.com/
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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Talking to Your Kids About Sex | Sarah Bragg May 18, 2021

In season 3 Episode 2, we are diving into the world of parenting. This week we hear from Sarah Bragg. Sarah is the host of the Surviving Sarah Podcast and author of the book, A Mother's Guide to Raising Herself."In this episode, she discusses her non-traditional approach to parenting, normalizing conversations about sex with your children, teaching kids curiosity, and candid stories on personal experiences. This episode leaves you with new ways to consider parenting and living a more curious life.

Pre-order A Mother's Guide to Raising Herself here.
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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Season 3: Parenting | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger May 11, 2021

We're back! In Season 2, we covered THE BIG ISSUES (from finance to communication, to sex, to loss and divorce). In Season 3, we are talking all things PARENTING. This season is for anyone who is a parent, wants to be a parent, is a God Parent, a grandparent, and so on. We really think there's something for everyone!

Topics we will talk about:
How do we talk to our kids about sex
Addressing Race and Racism with our children
Managing Screentime and technology
+ more!

In Episode 1 of Season 3, we dive into different parenting styles. Join us!

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
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Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Season 2 Wrap up | André + Jeff Shinabarger Mar 09, 2021

"A more authentic 'I' leads to a deeper we." - Sue Monk Kidd
In this episode, Jeff and Andre are wrapping up Season 2! They talk through what's coming and some of their biggest takeaways from the season.

On May 4th, we are launching Season 3 with a focus on parenting! Get ready - There are some great people, couples, and experts lined up!

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Love and Loss: A Dialogue on Divorce | Eryn Eddy + Ali Nelson Mar 02, 2021

We are joined by Eryn Eddy (Author and Founder of So Worth Loving) and Ali Nelson (Artist and Creator of Ali Makes Things) for a conversation on a hard topic, but a real topic. In this episode, we learn about the honest growth that happened in the lives of two friends after their marriages. We talk about mental health, empathy activation, the importance of community in the transitional seasons, and how the grass is not always greener on the other side. If you want to have a real talk about hard stuff...this is the episode for you. Ali and Eryn share their personal stories and authentically take us on a journey of hope and resilience. You might want to pull out your journal because you will learn a ton - we did.

Learn more:
Pre-Order Eryn's Book!
So Worth Loving
Ali Makes Things

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
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Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
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Complement your Partner | Jamie + Aaron Ivey Feb 23, 2021

Today we are welcoming Jamie + Aaron Ivey to the Love or Work Podcast! They are bestselling authors and spouses of 20 years. Aaron and Jamie Ivey are on a mission to provide hope for vibrant, meaningful marriages. In this episode, listen for FOUR things: the importance of having a friendship, the three-day fight, "Not Aaron's Wife", and hotel redemption.

In their new book duo Complement, they shared the keys to building a satisfying, FUN, and lasting marriage.
Learn more about COMPLEMENT and Buy the Books!

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
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Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Good Money. | Greg Gilbert Feb 16, 2021

Season 2, Episode 3. You guessed it. Jeff and Andre are talking money. Money tends to be one of the most challenging and stressful topics for couples to talk about, so they are diving in with Greg Gilbert, a friend and Wealth Advisor. Listening up for three things: $200 at target, wants and needs of your partner, and zip lock bags.

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Taking Sexy Back | Dr. Alexandra Solomon Feb 09, 2021

We're back, and today we are not shying away from the REAL TALK. We have the ever-wise Dr. Alexandra Solomon, a licensed clinical psychologist and the author of Taking Sexy Back and Loving Bravely.

Three things to listen for monogamy, marriage 101 class, and visa bills leading to sexy time.

Dr. Alexandra Solomon is a clinical assistant professor at Northwestern University and a licensed clinical psychologist at The Family Institute at Northwestern University. She is the author of Taking Sexy Back: How to Own Your Sexuality and Create the Relationships You Want (New Harbinger, 2020) and Loving Bravely: Twenty Lessons of Self-Discovery to Help You Get the Love You Want (New Harbinger, 2017). She also writes a column for Psychology Today and is frequently asked to talk about love, sex, and marriage with media outlets including The Today Show, O Magazine, The Atlantic, Vogue, and Scientific American. You can connect with her at DrAlexandraSolomon.com.

Marriage 101 Course: https://courses.dralexandrasolomon.com/intimate-relationships-101/?coupon=PRESALE

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
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Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Moments of Crisis | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Feb 02, 2021

In the launch of Season 2, Jeff and Andre are setting the stage for what's coming for the Podcast - The big issues: finances, sex, and communication. They also share how their family worked through a moment of crisis together. What is your plan? Who are your supporters? Join us as we dive into these real-life tensions.

Don't forget! Next Tuesday, you and your partner are invited to the Love or Work Virtual Date Night.
Text your person, and send them a customized invite! There's a SWEET and SPICY version. You can find them here (halfway down the page). ;)
See you there!
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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.
Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.comHome
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Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
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You're invited... | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Jan 26, 2021

We are changing things up! We took a break over the holidays, and we are ready to go. We've already recorded some absolutely amazing episodes and interviews, and we cannot wait to share them with you over the next few weeks.

BUT FIRST, today's episode is a quick little update of what's been going on and what's coming.

Introducing the Love or Work Mini Seasons, which will be topical. Launching next week: THE BIG ISSUES (from finance to communication, to sex, to loss and divorce). So we will see you again on Feb 2nd for a new episode!

One last thing...You're invited to the first-ever
Love or Work (Virtual) Date night!

Feburary 9th 8:30pm EST
Sign up here!

We all need to constantly reimagine our relationship. Ask questions and have real talk. You (and the person you love) are invited to join Jeff and Andre (and a bunch of their friends) for a night about purpose and partnership. So, save the date, and grab your partner for our virtual date night!

What's next?! | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Nov 24, 2020

In Today's Episode, Jeff and Andre talk about where the Podcast is headed. It's full of some funny phrases around marriage (from "happy wife, happy life, to "that's what she said") followed by a quick check-in (because it's been a while), and some news!
Make Love Work: Gift it to someone you love!
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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.
Website: www.loveorwork.comHome
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Parker Clay | Brittany + Ian Bentley Nov 17, 2020

Today we are hearing from Brittany + Ian, the founders of Parker Clay, crafting premium leather bags that provide dignified employment and uplift women out of exploitation. Parker Clay employs about 20 people in the US and over 100 women in Ethiopia.

Listen up for three things: one-way ticket, "adoption changes everything", and the interviewees asking the questions.

Parker Clay is offering 20% to Love or Work Subscribers!!!
https://www.parkerclay.com/
Use the code LOVEORWORK20 to save 20%

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Americans in Paris | Joy Eggerichs + Matt Reed Nov 10, 2020

Episode 121! We have the honor to introduce Joy Eggerichs and Matt Reed to you! Jot is the Founder of Punchline Agency: A Literary, Speaking, and Consulting Agency for people with something to say. Matt is the Head of Development, Sustainable Finance at EDF. His career moved them from Portland to Paris six months after being newly married. Shortly after, Joy and Matt started a family, and the two of them share in the joys of dating, marriage, parenting, and all of it during a pandemic. Listen up for three things: the pint glass analogy, being married to the child of relationship experts, yawning with the kids.

To learn more:
https://punchlinespeakers.com/
Book Reference: Love and Respect

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.
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Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

War + Unity | Sam + Shannon Sedgwick Davis Nov 03, 2020

Meet Sam and Shannon Sedgwick Davis, author of the book, “To Stop A Warlord.” This podcast is about their story of a strong woman and the husband who supports her. They share about the concept of multiply soul mates, learning to find unity in our differences, and teaching their kids about good and evil while trying to capture Kony.

To learn more:
The Bridgeway Foundation
Order Shannon's Book

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Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.
Website: www.loveorwork.comHome
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Would you rather?! | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Oct 27, 2020

Episode 119 - it's a fun one. Rapid-fire questions "would you rather", and a COVID check-in. This podcast is a check-in to see how YOU are all doing during this stressful season and what Jeff and Andre are learning right now about care and capacity.

Listen up for 3 things:
1) Jeff as a side piece
2) “That’s my jam!”
3) A new video series: Make Love Work
Order the Love or Work Book!

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.
Website: www.loveorwork.comHome
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Love Intently | Sophie Kwok + Maher Oct 20, 2020

Today we are hanging out with Sophie Kwok + Maher, a couple who is dating! If you're dating or you've been in a long term committed relationship, there is something to learn. Sophie is a User Experience and Brand Designer and host of the Love Intently Podcast. Maher is a Software Engineer and musician. These two talk about the Enneagram, Myers Briggs, the five love languages, and the different attachment styles. Get ready to dive in!

To learn more:
Check out the Love Intently Community and Podcast
Maher's Music
Jeff + Andre on the Love Intently Podcast

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.comHome
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Pouring a New Narrative | Shawndra + John Onwuchekwa Oct 13, 2020

Today, we are hanging with the Onwuchekwas, also known as Shawndra and John O. They are a creative duo, people who care about others, and share an entrepreneurial thread. Together, they are the Co-Founders of Portrait Coffee. John is also the Pastor of Cornerstone Church and host of the podcast 'Four in the Morning,' and Shawndra is the Founder of Chroma Creative Co. In this episode, we hear a pretty epic love story along with the real ups and downs of marriage, ministry, and entrepreneurship. Shawndra and John are real and funny, and they share their life with us. Listen up!

To learn more:
Portrait Coffee
Chroma Creative Co
Four in the Morning
Cornerstone Church

The Glue that holds us together | David Hayward Oct 06, 2020

This week Jeff and Andre interview David Hayward also know as the NakedPastor. After 30 years in the church, he left the ministry to pursue his passion for art. Naked Pastor uses words and images to challenge the status quo, deconstruct dogma, and offer hope for those who struggle and suffer under it. He's the author of "Til Doubt Do Us Part: When Changing Beliefs Change Your Marriage." Listen up for three things in this episode: Couples skate, investing in your marriage, and elasticity.

To learn more: https://www.nakedpastorstore.com/
Til Doubt Do Us Part

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.comHome
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Taking Turns and Leaning into Difference | Danielle + Tedashii Anderson Sep 29, 2020

Alright, alright! Today we are talking with Danielle and Tedashii Anderson. You might remember hearing from them back in 2018 from a video conversation with them and the Reynolds couple. This week we had the chance to sit with just them and dive in! Danielle is a Wellness Coach and Tedashii is a Hip Hop Artist and Communicator. In this episode we talk about being married to a creative, taking turns in following purpose, the different ways of grieving, health, and fitness. Join us as we laugh and cry and dive deep.

To learn more:
Danielle's Wellness Coach Work
Tedashii's Music

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.comHome
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Leaving it Better | Vanja + BJ Thompson Sep 22, 2020

In episode 114, Jeff and Andre are talking to BJ and Vanja, creators of Build a Better Us, a movement of ordinary people pursuing extraordinary change. BJ and Vanja were married in undergrad and recently celebrated 18 years of marriage! Along with leading their organization, BJ is a Life Coach, and Vanja is a 1st-grade teacher. This duo is full of wisdom, some good laughs, and even better advice for all of us. Listen up for three things: defining a healthy couple, losing 35 pounds, and THE go-to life coach question.

To Learn More:
https://buildabetterus.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.comHome
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.

Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Creative Parenting | Heather + Carlos Whittaker Sep 15, 2020

Episode 113 brings us Heather and Carlos Whittaker, married for 20 years with three kids, 18, 16, and 14! By trade, Carlos is an author and speaker, while this duo loves to travel and experience the world together and with their kids. These two are full of creative parenting ideas and their love story is a must-hear. They talk through how they find true healing. Listen up for three things: the birthday string, touching the airplane, 21 days in the hospital.

To learn more:https://carloswhittaker.com/
Order Enter Wild (Written by Carlos)

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.comHome
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.

Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Ping Ponging in Relationships | Holly + Scott Erickson Sep 08, 2020

In this episode of Love or Work, Jeff and Andre have a conversation with Holly and Scott Erickson. Holly is the Co-Founder of Modern Proper, an absolutely tasty food blog, and Scott is an artist and author, and Curator of Awesomeness. This couple just made a big move to Austin with their three kids. They also talk about their journey with the enneagram and how that's helped shape their partnership along with their personal journeys in healing and therapy. This episode is relatable, challenging, and full of some funny stories.

Learn more:
Scott's Work
Order Scott's new book the Honest Advent
Holly's work at The Modern Proper

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.comHome
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.

Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good. www.plywoodpeople.com

Attack Problems not People | Robin + Chad Merrill Sep 01, 2020

Today we learn from Robin + Chad Merrill - Managing and Executive Partners at Impact 252, Management Firm, and Business & Leadership Consulting Company. Robin and Chad met in high school and have been married for over 30 years! We go through all the ages and stages of this couple growing up together, growing a family, and growing in their purpose. Listen up for three things: the backup prom date, Disney moments with dad, and death weekends. These two are full of practical advice for us ALL.

To learn more:
https://impact252.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Home Together: A date night right where you are
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Amplifying Love | Nicole + Khalil Thompson Aug 25, 2020

In Episode 110, we meet Nicole + Khalil Thompson! Nicole is a lawyer, and Khalil is a Director of Marketing and Social Innovation at J.Rich Atlanta. Together they are entrepreneurs, leading multiple projects. The first is "Penelope the Pirate Princess" with their daughter, the second called Amplify Love - elevating the stories of the Black experience in America, and the third - Empowered Readers Literacy Project - and Atlanta non-profit. These two are full of stories! Listen up for three things: 6 am walks, galaxy star slime, and working with your partner AND your kids.

To learn more:
https://www.letsamplify.love/
https://www.theauthenticprincess.com/
Empowered Readers

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Home Together: A date night right where you are
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Vulnerability, Anxiety and Sex Talk | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Aug 18, 2020

Today is very special for two reasons. First, the Love or Work book is officially out! You can purchase it anywhere you buy books (link below)! This book has been years and the making, and our team is so excited to share it with all of you. Please purchase a copy today! We truly believe that this book will shape and challenge relationships in a new and exciting way. Jeff and Andre conducted a national research project interviewing 1501 people in long-term committed relationships and coupled that with their personal stories AND learnings from the interviews on this podcast.

Secondly, in this episode of the podcast, Jeff and Andre are the ones being interviewed. Cherrod Pate of The Pate Experience interviews Jeff and Andre LIVE at Plywood Presents. They did not see the questions beforehand, and there were laughs and tears from all.

Cherrod is a force to be reckoned with, and we're so thankful she was able to interview Jeff and Andre and pull out the truth from them both. We hope you enjoy!

Now get yourself a copy of the book, and let's celebrate together!

To learn more:
Order the Love or Work Book!
Follow Cherrod Pate here.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Home Together: A date night right where you are
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Ch 2 from Love or Work (the book) | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Aug 11, 2020

So here's the deal, today we are sharing Chapter two of the Love or Work Book! If you want to listen to the book in order, you can listen to Chapter 1 when you pre-order the book and claim the pre-order bonuses here! Listen up for three things: 1) The biggest fight ever 2) our young idealism to change the world 3) the 3:45 conundrum.

Love or Work: Is it possible to change the world stay in love, and raise a healthy family? is available wherever you buy your books on August 18th! Order it here!

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Home Together: A date night right where you are
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Body Image and Postpartum | Hillary McBride Aug 04, 2020

We are changing things up this week. We are bringing an expert to the table - Hillary McBride - a therapist, speaker, researcher, and author. Hillary has a gift to help people grow, heal, change, and come into more fullness in themselves and their relationships. In this episode, we learn about continually asking first date questions, showing empathy for our partner, so many things around body image, and we even get into postpartum sex and health.

Questions we can ask our partner to be more empathetic:
Can you tell me what this has been like for you?
Can you tell me what's exciting for your right now?
Can you tell me what's hard for you right now?

To learn more:
https://hillarylmcbride.com/
Read Mothers, Daughters, & Body Image

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love, and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Home Together: A date night right where you are
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Creative Freelancing | Morgan Harper + Patrick Nichols Jul 28, 2020

We are so excited for you to listen to today's episode! We are talking to Morgan Harper Nichols and Patrick Nichols, married 10 years! Morgan is an artist of all kinds, but maybe most well known for the art she shares via Instagram. Patrick is co-owner with Morgan of Garden 24. Patrick helps bring Morgan's work to life. As a team, these two are sharing messages of hope in a time when there is so much hopelessness within our world. These two are entrepreneurs, new parents, and recently made a big move! Listen up for three things: seven dollar poems, polo shirts, and "I hear poetry in what people say."

To learn more:
https://garden24.co/
https://www.instagram.com/morganharpernichols/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Order the Love or Work Book!
Website: www.loveorwork.com
Home Together: A date night right where you are
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Personal Board of Advisors | Wendy + Jeff Henderson Jul 21, 2020

Today we meet Wendy and Jeff Henderson married 23 years with two kids! Jeff is an entrepreneur, speaker, pastor, and business leader. Wendy is on the journey of figuring out what's next for her as they soon will be empty nesters. These two are a mix of planning and spontaneity. Listen up for three things: a personal board of advisors, the goal-setting weekend gone all wrong, and their vulnerable experience with seasons of depression. Don't miss out!

To learn more:
For by Jeff Henderson

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Home Together: A date night right where you are
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

All in. Everyday. | Kat Cole + Daley Ervin Jul 14, 2020

Meet Kat Cole and Daley Ervin. These two met at a Breakout event in Baltimore. Kat saw Daley from across the room, and she knew this man but they had never met. However, by the end of the night, they were inseparable and engaged TWO weeks later. These two are no strangers to taking big leaps and confronting challenges head-on. Kat is the COO of FOCUS Brands, which is a leading developer of global multi-channel foodservice brands, and Daley is Managing Director at Engage. These two live by the motto: “All in. Everyday.” How do we do this successfully when we have a ton of things we are supposed to be all-in on? Well, join us as we learn about the importance of “us time”, how to prioritize your spouse.

Don't miss out on an episode both Andre and Jeff describe as “Fire!”

To learn more:
https://www.focusbrands.com/
https://engage.vc/engage-team-members/daley-ervin/

Leading through the Pandemic | Pam + Tim Elmore Jul 07, 2020

Have you ever wondered how this pandemic will affect your kids? Well, look no further, because this week we are interviewing Pam and Dr. Tim Elmore. Tim has written a book titled “The Pandemic Population.” Dr. Tim Elmore is the Founder and President of Growing Leaders, a non-profit organization created to develop emerging leaders from Millennials to Gen Z to Gen X. But while Tim was becoming an expert in how to lead the next generation, his wife Pam was putting in the long hours in the field leading their two kids. Through tears, Pam and Tim share about learning from their children who are now adults. Join Jeff and Andre as we learn about what this pandemic means for our youth, as well as walking together in learning a better way to lead, whether that be with your kids, in your marriage, or with your team!

To learn more:
https://growingleaders.com/
Pre-Order: The Pandemic Population: Eight Strategies to Help Generation Z Rediscover Hope After Coronavirus

Sharing power and talking to kids about race | Dawntoya + Adam Thomason Jun 30, 2020

In this episode, we meet Dawntoya and Adam Thomason! Dawntoya is currently at home with their three kids homeschooling them, and Adam is a filmmaker, animator, and activist. This couple is truly on a journey together. They share power in their relationship and the value the other seeing things differently. They also don't shy away from the hard conversations, giving us all practical advice on how to talk to kids about race, injustice, and police. Listen up for three things: dead fish handshakes, growing up in Detroit, releasing vulnerability.

To learn more:
http://www.iamredrev.com/
https://www.3strandfilms.com/home

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Home Together: A date night right where you are
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork
View the new cover for the Love or Work book!
Sign up to learn more about the Love or Work book launch team!

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Living cross-culturally | Sandra Van Opstal + Karl Ostroski Jun 23, 2020

In episode 101, we meet Sandra Van Opstal and Karl Ostroski - an amazing couple who shares about their work, their relationship, and raising children who care about justice! Sandra is the Executive Director of Chasing Justice, a movement led by people of color to mobilize a lifestyle of faith and justice, and Karl is a consultant. Sandra and Karl dive into what it's like to married to someone who grew up very differently from the other - from culture, age, and class. This duo is raising sons who are both five, born two days apart, and they also share with us about their experience in raising bi-racial children and how to encourage them to be justice-minded. Listen up for three things: cross-cultural marriage, wing woman, and TOWG. There's so much practical wisdom in this episode!

To learn more:
https://chasingjustice.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Home Together: A date night right where you are
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

100th Episode and Book Cover Release! | Natalia + Scottie Parker & Kayla + Joseph Stagnaro Jun 16, 2020

In the 100th episode, Jeff and Andre share some exciting news - the book cover for "Love or Work" is now out (check it out on Instagram)! In this episode, Andre and Jeff share the mic with Natalia + Scottie Parker (Head Trainer for the Hawks) and Joseph (Real Estate Agent) + Kayla Stagnaro (Plywood People). Kayla and Natalia have listened to all 100 episodes, and they are heading up the "Love or Work" book launch team (learn more below)! In the 100th episode, the couples discuss some of the most impactful episodes for their relationships, the ups and downs of life during Covid, and more.

To learn more:
View the new cover!
Sign up to learn more about the Love or Work book launch team!

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Home Together: A date night right where you are
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

To those in the Beginning | Sarah Linebaugh + Nick Rivero Jun 09, 2020

Meet Sarah Linebaugh and Nick Rivero former art-school student and roadie, creators of the company MEPTIK - creating experiences that drive human connection. This podcast is for all the beginnings. For the beginning of adulthood, the beginning of marriage, the beginnings of a family, and more. For Sarah and Nick, their beginnings seemed to begin all at the same time. Having only a few years of marriage under their belts, while also being in the beginning stages of launching their company, they began to start to ask themselves the question “When is the right time to have a baby?“. But before they could answer that question, Sarah was in labor, and Nick was juggling the weight of the company on his shoulders.

Join us as we walk through all the firsts with Sarah and Nick and learn more about navigating through seasons that feel at times feel impossible.

To learn more:
https://www.instagram.com/MEPTIK/
https://www.meptik.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Home Together: A date night right where you are
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

How to Disagree and Not Leave | Yvette + Glen Henry Jun 02, 2020

We meet Yvette and Glen Henry, married nine years with four kids. Yvette and Glen are the hosts of the "How Married Are You" Podcast. After months of Glen coming home from work unhappy, Yvette asked Glen to consider being a stay at home dad. Through his time being a stay at home parent, Glen created "Beleaf in Fatherhood," proving great fathers exist one day at a time. It started as a YouTube Channel, and it's now so much more, a community and a resource for families. The Henry's are vulnerable about their journey of being a family that shares their life online - it's not about fame or success; it's about the purpose their family is called to.

To learn more:
Beleaf in Fatherhood YouTube channel
How Married Are You Podcast
Dads on June 19th via Apple TV+

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Home Together: A date night right where you are
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Life on the Move | Kayla + Dr. Steven Tersigni May 26, 2020

In Episode 97, we meet Kayla + Dr. Steven Tersigni, a family of seven! Steven is a Refractive Surgeon, and Kayla is a Ph.D. Candidate in tandem with raising their five children. This couple has a unique perspective on life and work. They have moved 18 times in 14 years! Listen up for three things: low expectations, marrying the babysitter, triage in families.

To learn more:
BrintonVision.com

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Home Together: A date night right where you are
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Minimalist Mindset | Kim + Joshua Becker May 19, 2020

With the world stuck at home, so many of us are realizing just how much stuff we have. For Joshua and Kim Becker, this realization hit 12 years ago.

In the midst of spring cleaning a while back, Joshua Becker learned the term “minimalism”. Him and his family then entered a 9-month journey of working through all the growing pains that go along with becoming a minimalist. One of which hit a little too close to home for his wife Kim when she walked in on Joshua throwing away their honeymoon photos!

After the initial sting, this new way of life led Joshua to leave his job as a Pastor and to launch their new company “Becoming Minimalist” which brought on a whole new set of growing pains for the family. Join us as we listen to how Joshua and Kim are now active voices in leading other people in the process of decluttering and reprioritizing the things in their lives.

To learn more:
https://www.becomingminimalist.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

The Entrepreneurial Marriage Journey | Ciara + Bob Dalton May 12, 2020

In this episode, we meet Ciara and Bob Dalton of Sackcloth + Ashes - for every blanket purchased, they give one to your local homeless shelter! This week we hear all about the journey of an entrepreneur. THE REAL STUFF - through success, travel, and failure. We hear about what it really takes to be an entrepreneur and be married to one.

To learn more:
https://sackclothandashes.com/
CiaraDalton.com

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Home Together: A date night right where you are
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Embodiment of Community | Robin + Greg Holder May 05, 2020

Today, we meet Robin and Greg Holder. Greg is a pastor and author of Advent Conspiracy and The Genius of One, and Robin is an entrepreneur and owner of Top Sales Rep, LLC. They have been married for 36 six years and they brought wisdom. Jeff and Andre cover a lot with the Holders. Listen up for three things: divorced multiple times before engagement, how to talk to kids about sex, and the rapid fire questions on all the ages and stages!

To learn more:
http://gregholder.com/
http://www.topsalesreps.com/
Pre-order Greg's newest book Never Settle

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Home Together | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Apr 28, 2020

Staying in is the new going out. Andre & Jeff Shinabarger open up about the challenges of staying connected during COVID-19. Hear how they are working through the hard days, struggling to meet expectations with each other, and the constant work to find rhythms. Get some tips on how to plan a stay-at-home date and learn about their new guide for a date night right where you are!

To learn more:
Home Together: A date night right where you are

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

An Accumulation of our Pasts | Darrah Brustein + Brendan Doherty Apr 21, 2020

Episode 92, we meet Darrah Brustein and Brendan Doherty, entrepreneurs, writers, and among so much more. These two are in a long term committed relationship, engaged to be married. Darrah is Founder and Coach of Mind Your Business Accelerator while Brendan is CEO at Big & Chewy. You know the drill, listen up for three things: cuddle puddles, dating like a man, Deepak Chopra. Darrah and Brendan also share about their personal monthly check-in. You can find the question they ask each other below in the Forbes article, "You've Fallen in Love. Now what?" written by Darrah. There's no better time to create a new rhythm to encourage a check-in.

To learn more:
Darrah.co
BrendanDoherty.com
You've Fallen in Love. Now What?

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Mission Mighty Me | Catherine + JJ Jaxon Apr 14, 2020

We all know someone with an allergy - maybe it's minor, but there are also those friends or family members who have severe allergies - the scary kind. Today, we meet JJ and Catherine Jaxon, former investment banker and journalist who met in, New York. They are on a mission to prevent allergies in children through Mission Mighty Me.

JJ and Catherine partnered with Dr. Gideon Lack – the world-renowned pediatric allergist who discovered that most peanut allergies can be prevented, and whose research changed the pediatric feeding guidelines around the globe to create this amazing product and project. Join us as we learn about their love story and the challenges of working together, managing family, and launching a food product.

To learn more:
https://missionmightyme.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Quarantined and in love | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Apr 07, 2020

Episode 90 - At this point, most of us have been quarantined and in our houses for two-plus weeks. Today, we're sharing some of the things to keep things fun at home - with your family, partner, and roommates. From Monopoly deal to dance parties to house projects.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

In it together | Joanna + Nolan Waterfall Mar 31, 2020

Episode 89 - coming atcha in the midst of the COVID-19 situation. We hope you and your family are staying safe!

This week, we meet Joanna and Nolan Waterfall. Joanna is the founder of Yellow and Nolan is the founder of Campfire Health. This duo is in it. They both run businesses and recently added a little one to their family. Listen up for three things: Abercrombie + Fitch, the importance of Vietnam for their relationship and smiling for 30 seconds.

To Learn More:
https://yellowco.co/
https://GratitudeDaily.co/ (coming soon!)

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Becoming Better Grownups | Kristi + Brad Montague Mar 24, 2020

In this episode, we meet Kristi and Brad Montague, the creators of Kid President and Montague workshop. Brad is an author, speaker, illustrator and conveyor of hope and joy. Kristi is behind the scenes, making ALL the things happen - from graphic design to props to so many other things.

This duo is full of jokes and stories that will make you laugh, and maybe make you cry. They share about the real-life struggles of being highly creative entrepreneurs that work together while raising a family, one day, one project at a time. Join us in this hopeful conversation.

PRE-ORDER BRADS'S BOOK:
Becoming Better Grownups - out on March 31st

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Married w/ Nine Kids | Jennifer + Kyle Sapaugh Mar 17, 2020

If you didn't notice, we are changing things up! Our new release day for the podcast will be on Tuesdays!

Meet the Sapaughs - married at 19 and have been married for 18 years! Jennifer is the Director at Bay Area Homeschool Academy and Kyle runs Specialty Food Services in Texas. In this episode, we learn about life as a big family - with nine kids, their experience with Hurricane Harvey, and dealing with stress.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Let's Be Us | Sara + Chris Pochiba Mar 10, 2020

If you didn't notice, we are changing things up! Our new release day for the podcast will be on Tuesdays!

This week we meet Sara + Chris Pochiba of Let's Be Us. They are digital nomads, YouTubers, creatives, traveling around seeking adventures and cultivating community along the way. In this episode, listen for three things: what inspires them to start the YouTube channel, the love story of bicycling across the US, and THE marriage saver for their relationship.

To learn more:
https://letsbe.us/
YouTube Channel

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Live at TheoEd | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Mar 02, 2020

This week we lean in with Jeff and Andre as they share in detail their learnings from interviewing couples on this podcast in conjunction with the research with Barna. This talk was given live at the TheoEd event in Atlanta in February!

To Learn more:
https://theoed.com/
Watch the talk from TheoEd
Discussion Guide

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

What brings us together | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Feb 24, 2020

This week the episode is a shorty! We ask the question "What brings us together?" How do we find time to connect outside of the mundane? Sometimes it means getting away together - a new hike or a night away! The time outside the everyday hustle lets us connect in new ways.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Sex and Work | Cristina + Andy Mineo Feb 17, 2020

This week we interviewed hip hop artist Andy Mineo (Hip Hop Artist) and his wife Cristina (Entrepreneur). They talk about sex, confidence and sexual liberation with your partner. We also talk about the difficulty in finding your purpose, thinking outside of social norms and how to get unstuck creatively. We hope this episode helps keep things hot and spicy in the bedroom! They are real, they are honest and so fun!!

To learn more:
http://andymineo.com/
https://minerleague.store
http://uncuratedco.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Identity and Purpose Beyond Work | Amy + Kohl Crecelius Feb 10, 2020

Today we meet Amy and Kohl. Amy is a nurse, and Kohl is the Co-founder of Krochet Kids and Known Supply - international brands focused on the people making the products. In this episode, listen out for three things: stealing hobbies, ethical manufacturing while raising kids, breaking rules with your kids in tow. Is it breaking the law if you have your kids with you??

To learn more:
https://www.krochetkids.org/
https://knownsupply.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Boys, Sports and Dishes | Allison + Jim Dudley Feb 03, 2020

This week we meet Allison + Jim Dudley. The Dudley’s have 4 boys and give us some great tips about raising boys with all their sports and activities. Jim shares honestly about how he has had to learn to enjoy his kids and combat shame. “Shame says, ‘You’re the only one struggling with this’--and that is a lie." They talk about the importance of daily connection and vulnerability and not sweeping things under the rug.

They share their differences in how they rest. Do you know how you refuel? Do you know how your partner refuels? This podcast is packed with so much wisdom, we guarantee you will learn something valuable.

To learn more:
@thewiseguysadventure
@washmefast

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

We Need You | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Jan 27, 2020

Episode 80 - It's short, but it's sweet. Jeff and Andre talk about the importance of being in consistent community. For the first time, Jeff and Andre announce their need for a launch team for the Love or Work book that will come out later this year! Please join us: www.loveorwork.com/launch

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Negotiating with your Spouse | Staci Brinkman + Øivind Loe Jan 20, 2020

Today we meet co-founders of the tea subscription service known as Sips by. Staci Brinkman + Øivind Loe are a couple that works together while running a start-up out of Austin, Texas. This episode is fun. We talk about Norwegian pick-up lines and then dives deep into what it's like to run a business as a couple along with negotiating ownership with your spouse.

To learn more:
https://www.sipsby.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Doing What Lights You Up | Brielle + Jeremy Slate Jan 13, 2020

In episode 78, we meet Brielle + Jeremy Slate, together for 10 years - from ancient history to healthcare to becoming entrepreneurs. As a couple, the Slates had a few big decisions to make that changed the trajectory of where they were headed. They are the co-founders of Command Your Brand, a public relations firm for the podcast space. Listen out for a few things: notifications on your phone, diapers on a poodle, and champagne in your fridge!

To learn more: https://commandyourbrand.media/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Purpose and Coconuts | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Jan 06, 2020

It's 2020 now, and we are all supposed to know what we are doing right? Well, sometimes that can be difficult, sometimes you just don’t know. This episode with Jeff and Andre is all about PURPOSE.

What in the world do coconuts have to do with purpose? Listen and find out.

Here are some other questions answered:
How do you define purpose?
How do you find it?
What happens when you are stuck?
How do you support your partner who doesn’t know their purpose?
How do you take your ideas and make them happen?

This episode is for anyone that is unsure about the future, unsure how to move forward, unsure about their purpose.

It will bring you hope, clarity and remind you that you are not alone.

To learn more:
PathByPlywood.com

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Help One Now | Necole + Chris Marlow Dec 30, 2019

In Episode 76, we meet Necole and Chris Marlow, founders of Help One Now, which empowers families in developing countries through high-capacity local leaders with proven solutions to end extreme poverty. Chris and Necole will soon be empty-nesters, after raising two amazing girls. As a family, the Marlows love to travel, so we learn about what it's like to learn about the world, see the transformation in communities, and more.

To learn more:
https://helponenow.org/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Name Your Feelings | Susan + Josh Robinson Dec 23, 2019

Listen up! This week we are talking to Susan + Josh Robinson. They've known each other since they were 19 and 20. Josh left a corporate job and took the risk to start a creative agency while Susan stayed home to love and support the kids and the people around her. They've grown up and become adults together. In the episode, we get into love stories, the feelings wheel, adoption, and so much more. Josh + Susan love people well. Stay tuned and enjoy! Learn with us.

To learn more:
http://feelingswheel.com/
http://myfriendsnephew.is
https://www.hellosusanrobinson.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Imperfect Courage | Jessica + Joe Honegger Dec 16, 2019

In Episode 74, we are bringing you the founders of Noonday Collection, Jessica + Joe Honegger! We learn the origin story of this nationally known brand that impacts women and families across the world. The Honneger family values travel, family, and vulnerability. We dive in and talk about international adoption, entrepreneurship, working together as a couple, and stay at home dads.

To learn more:
https://www.noondaycollection.com/
https://jessicahonegger.com/podcast/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Importance of Intentionality | Brooke + Christian Hempell Dec 09, 2019

In episode 73, we meet Brooke + Christian Hempell. Christian is a Hospitality Executive, and Brooke is the Senior Vice President of Research at Barna Group. The Hempells just celebrated 20 years of marriage! In your partnership, how do you make decisions? Is there one of you that always says no or always says yes? Is there one of you that travels often for work? Learn with us as the Hempells share how they manage the tensions of love and work.

To learn more:
https://www.barna.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Marriage is Funny and More | Jessie Artigue + Gerard Brown Dec 02, 2019

We're kicked off the 2019 holiday season, and today, we are hearing from Jessie Artigue and Gerard Brown, the hosts of the Marriage Is Funny Podcast. Gerard is an Actuary + Bi-Vocational Pastor, and Jessie is an On-Air Host + Creative Entrepreneur. The Marriage Is Funny Podcast was created out of the need for accountability in their relationship. Make sure you for two things: 1) listen for their laundry tips 2) hear them out on why fighting isn't so bad in marriage!

http://www.meetthepeppers.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Practicing Gratitude | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Nov 25, 2019

Hang with the Shinabargers on your Thanksgiving holiday drive! Hear about how they integrate a spirit of gratitude into this month and beyond.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Freedom and Creativity in Your Relationship | Hillary + Jason DeMeo Nov 18, 2019

This creative couple married young and started an innovation studio called: We Are Curio. They share about how they have had to throw away traditional gender roles and instead do what they each are good at. As a creative, Jason talks about the importance of managing his energy by scheduling his time so he can stay healthy inside the hustle and grind of life. They remind us that we each get to write our story of love and work and family. These two give such practical advice that opens the door to more freedom and creativity in your partnership. Enjoy!!

To learn more: https://www.wearecurio.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Sitting with the Suttons | CC + Tristen Sutton Nov 11, 2019

Episode 69, we are Sitting with the Suttons! CC and Tristen are native Houstonians. They are Love & Lifestyle Enthusiasts, Foodie Socialites, and Small Business Advocates. They've been married 10 years, and they use social media and radio to inspire, share and support their community. The Suttons are on a mission to make marriage great again. They aren't afraid to dive into the hard questions, from race to submission to work-life balance.

To learn more: https://www.tristenandcc.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

The Seven Longest Yards | Emily + Chris Norton Nov 04, 2019

In Episode 68, we hear from Emily and Chris Norton. He had a 3% chance of ever walking again...and he did.. for 7 yards. She walked those Seven Longest Yards by his side. This is their story. A story about learning that your lowest moments can be the source of your greatest gifts.

They are trying to change the stigma of mental health issues and talk about the importance of getting help. Her story of depression is a beautiful example of learning herself and finding faith again.

Also, if you are interested in foster care or adoption, their story will inspire hope. You really don’t want to miss this amazing couple’s story.

To learn more:
- The Seven Longest Yards: Our Love Story of Pushing the Limits while Leaning on Each Other

- 7 Yards Movie Trailer

For speaking inquiries:
chrisnorton.org

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Dual Career Couples | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Oct 28, 2019

This week Jeff and Andre discuss an article from the Harvard Business Review written by Jennifer Petriglieri, who also wrote the book Couples that Work. Dual career couples are on the rise. Now 63% of couples with kids both partners work. There is little guidance for these couples, and Jeff and Andre want to talk about it. They discuss the three transition points that every couple must face throughout their working years. This podcast is for couples in every age and stage. We promise you will learn something new!

The HBR article: How Dual-Career Couples Make It Work:
https://hbr.org/2019/09/power-couples

The book: Couples that Work:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/163369724X/ref=cm_sw_r_oth_api_i_.TFRDbSVEVWQD

How to take a Leap | Jess + Jake Ekstrom Oct 21, 2019

Episode 66. We hope you're ready to laugh because this duo has jokes. Today, you get the chance to meet Jess and Jake Ekstrom. Jess is the Founder of Headbands of Hope (as seen on Forbes, The Today Show, Good Morning America, and more). She is also the author of 'Chasing the Bright Side' (available for pre-order now - link below). In this season of life, Jake is supporting Jess and her dream, which is actually a part of their dream.

The Ekstroms have committed to living in airstream for two years! Yes, they are traveling, but the purpose of this adventure is to spend endless time together, tour Children's hospitals across the country with Headbands of Hope, and launch the 'Chasing the Bright Side' book!

To learn more:
https://www.headbandsofhope.com/
Pre order the book!

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Productivity and Intimacy | Jeanne + Jarrett Stevens Oct 14, 2019

This week, we interview Jarrett and Jeanne Stevens! These dear friends have been married for 23 years and have so much wisdom packed into this episode! They share about how productivity can replace intimacy, how you can run hard and forget to rest, and the importance of learning to exercise your “no muscle.” They didn’t hold back in sharing their life changing moments in their marriage, which was vulnerable and beautiful. Lastly, we learned a new phrase: “the clean agreement.” You don’t want to miss this one!

Pre-order Jarrett’s book coming out in January here: PRAYING THROUGH

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Foster Care | Amanda van Dalen + Chelsea Sabo Oct 07, 2019

Join us today for a special episode. We will be learning from our friends Chelsea Sabo and Amanda van Dalen. Both women are single foster parents, and they share about the beauty of parenting, the journey of adoption through foster care, and tips on how to support a foster family along with the trauma and sorrow that is also a part of the story. If you're interested in fostering, this is a great episode to learn about the realities, good and bad. Amanda and Chelsea both share resources that have helped them along the journey, too!

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Questions from the Listeners Part 2 | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Sep 30, 2019

In Episode 63, Jeff and Andre are back again answering your questions! Hear about how they celebrate big and small accomplishments, how they plan their CRAZY schedules, how to support a partner after surgery, and more!

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Being Intentional | Lyndie + Chris Carneal Sep 23, 2019

In episode 62, Meet Lyndie and Chris Carneal! They are the Founders of Booster, a school fundraising company on a mission to change the world through character development and unique programming. Chris and Lyndie have been married for 17 years. Chris first noticed Lyndie in 8th grade, and they solidified their friendship through college. The duo now has four kids and they live a life of intentional purpose, from the goals they set together (ie: the 150 meals) to the Life Excel spreadsheet they share (don't worry, we will get into that).

Chris and Lyndie are incredibly fun, together and separate. They share with us all what it's like when one person in a couple is high intensity and programs out most aspects of their life, while the other needs a little more downtime. It's incredibly relatable, and we think you'll be encouraged and challenged in this episode!

To learn more:
https://boosterthon.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

The Privilege in Seeking Purpose | Tina + Frank Fernandez Sep 16, 2019

In Episode 61, we meet Tina and Frank Fernandez. Tina is the Executive Director of Achieve Atlanta and Frank is the Senior Vice President of The Arthur M. Blank Family Foundation. This duo met at Harvard and have been married for 22 years. The Fernandez family is rooted in traditions from their annual new years day hike to their family vacations (ie: 25 people in one house). Tina and Frank also touch on the importance of having a common definition of purpose, and they discuss the distinction of raising kids who recognize their privilege but don't operate out of entitlement. Join us, listen to the end, and learn with us!

To learn more about their work:
http://achieveatlanta.org/
https://blankfoundation.org/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

5 Tips On Working Together | Andre and Jeff Shinabarger Sep 09, 2019

In this episode, Jeff and Andre give us their best advice on working together well. They talk about their process of researching, writing and publishing their future book, Love or Work, TOGETHER. They’ll give you 5 tips to improve your working relationship with your partner. These tips don’t just apply to couples in working relationships; they’re great for fostering stronger romantic relationships as well.

You can stay in the loop about the book launch by following @loveorwork on Instagram!

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Hustle, Anxiety and Rhythms | Rebekah + Gabe Lyons Sep 02, 2019

In Episode 59, Jeff and André talk with old friends, Gabe and Rebekah Lyons. Gabe is a speaker, author and Founder and President of Q Ideas, which is a platform that works towards restoring the credibility and image of Christianity. Rebekah is also a speaker, Founder of Q Ideas, and a bestselling author. Her new book, Rhythms of Renewal, calls us to “trade stress and anxiety for a life full of peace and purpose.” Rebekah and Gabe recently released a podcast called: The Rhythms for Life Podcast. Check it out!

In this episode of the Love or Work Podcast, They propel one another to hustle out their dreams but push for oneness while in the process. Listen to Gabe and Rebekah share their journey of raising four kids, overcoming a life of anxiety, and having an engaging marriage that leads to unity in their decisions.

To learn more:
https://qideas.org/
Good Faith
https://rebekahlyons.com/
Rhythms and Renewal

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Beleaf in Fatherhood | Glen 'Beleaf' Henry Aug 26, 2019

This one is a little different! In Episode 58, Jeff and Andre introduce Glen Henry “Beleaf” at Plywood Presents x ATL Ideas! to share his story of balancing work and family.

Glen is the one behind the successful YouTube channel, Beleaf in Fatherhood and the How Married Are You podcast. His videos cover fatherhood, marriage, and life. He is YouTube’s 2018 Creator for Change Award recipient and does just that in this episode. In his keynote at Plywood Presents, Glen dives into his struggle of balancing fatherhood and marriage while becoming “successful.” His story is raw but redemptive, through his ability to acknowledge his challenges and work towards putting family first before the money.

To learn more: https://beleafinfatherhood.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Money, Chores, and Question Asking | Beverly + Todd Sandel Aug 19, 2019

Today, we meet Beverly + Todd Sandel, the co-creators of Defy Drift, a fun, simple tool for couples to recapture the closeness of deep conversation.

Beverly is passionate about uncovering the hidden genius in the dyslexic community. Gaining experience navigating life with her own hidden dyslexic child, Beverly became an Orton-Gillingham trained tutor in order to help other families struggling through the same plight. Todd is the Founder and CEO of The SouthCity Group, an Executive Coaching and Consulting Firm based here in Atlanta. Todd has dual Master’s degrees in both the fields of Organizational Leadership and Marriage & Family Therapy.

They have been married 20 years, are parents of teenagers ranging in age from 10 to 16, and share the importance of asking good questions while having face to face conversations with each other. They also share with us the philosophy about what it means to be a “citizen of the family.” They answer those hard questions: How do we teach our kids about money? How do we engage our kids doing chores? This couple is inspiring, and as a bonus, you don’t want to miss hearing about their crazy 31-day train trip with the kids this summer.

To learn more:
https://defydrift.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Defining and Framing Your Conversations | Brittany + Andy Thoms Aug 12, 2019

In episode 56, we all meet Brittany and Andy Thoms. This power couple founded the company See.Spark.Go, a media relations company based out of Athens, GA. They started their company during a time when they felt stuck in their own marriage, and now they share great tips on working together. They give expert advice about leveraging their differences so they become complimentary instead of causing division. The Thoms are super fun and full of such wisdom. You don’t want to miss this one!

Learn more about See.Spark.Go:
https://www.seesparkgo.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Grit & Virtue | Charlena + Roberto Ortiz Aug 05, 2019

Meet Charlena and Roberto Ortiz, husband and wife, creatives, and founders. Charlena is the Founder of Grit & Virtue, a personal development company for modern-day women. Roberto is a Design Director, Consultant, and works on the User Experience for Grit & Virtue.

Their love story goes all the way back to 10th-grade geometry and spans across years of the good and the bad, from starting and sustaining a company to a struggle with infertility.

To learn more:
https://gritandvirtue.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Road Trip Conversations | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Jul 29, 2019

In Episode 54, Jeff and Andre are on the road! We get a peek into their real life, and learn about how they make things happen in the day to day. We hear the great debate around giving kids ipads or not? How does listening to a podcast together make generate conversation? How do they create moments to connect in times of chaos?

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Boundaries | Tori + Dr. Henry Cloud Jul 22, 2019

On Episode 53, we talk with Tori and Dr. Henry Cloud. Tori is a nAuthor + Philanthropist and Psychologist, Consultant and Author. Dr. Cloud is most famous for his book called “Boundaries”, which has sold more than 4 million copies.

“Boundaries define what is me and what is not me.”

We talk about boundaries in relationships and how building in structure within your marriage and family creates healthy boundaries.
They share about the importance of being responsible for our own needs and not blaming others for our disappointments.

Natural consequences are a value that they hold as a family and how over-parenting and parenting out of your fears can be a detriment to your children.

We even discuss Dr. Clouds book “How To Get a Date Worth Keeping” and get his advice about dating. He thinks singles need to let go of a certain “type,” change their traffic patterns and up their dating numbers. This is an episode for those that are married or single—so listen today!

Use the promo code PLYWOOD for one free month of coaching on Boundaries from www.boundaries.me or one free month of leadership coaching from LeadU.tv

To learn more:
https://www.boundaries.me/
https://leadu.tv/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Opposites Attract | Shauna + Aaron Niequist Jul 15, 2019

In this episode, we interviewed Aaron and Shauna Niequist! Aaron is a musician and author of the book "The Eternal Current." Shauna is a New York Times best-selling author of the book "Present Over Perfect."

They are opposites in every way, yet respect and love their differences. They have learned how an extrovert and introvert can work together. They share their story about saying yes to OPRAH, which meant saying no to something else really important. We also learn how from this duo on how to make realistic assessments of what a 'yes' decision means, for everyone involved.

The Niequists have also changed the idea of a successful day to be more about connection than accomplishing tasks and valuing the things in life that are unique to only what you can do.

Join us this week as we celebrate ONE year of the Love or Work Podcast, as we continue to learn from others and ask the hard questions. We will be sharing a giveaway on Instagram this week. Find us @loveorwork!

To learn more about Aaron + Shauna:
https://www.shaunaniequist.com/
https://www.aaronniequist.com

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Between Parents | Joy + Billy Phenix Jul 08, 2019

Episode 51! Meet Joy and Billy Phenix, married for 22 years and counting. As a couple, they host a podcast called Between Parenthood, with over 100 episodes focusing on marriage and parenting. As individuals, Joy is the Executive Producer of Nine Toe Productions and Billy is the Director of Staff Development at North Point Ministries.

In this episode, we cover so much. Listen for their advice on not getting stuck in the comparison trap, the system of umbrellas, and whiteboarding tensions. We will learn techniques on how to stand shoulder to shoulder instead of face to face. How do we move forward as we and not me.

To learn more and listen to their Podcast:
http://betweenparentspodcast.com

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Things to know before Marriage | Jeff + Andre Shinabarger Jul 01, 2019

In Episode 50, Jeff and Andre are talking through ten things that they wish they knew before marriage. From orange juice to ignoring phone calls.

Don't worry, if you're already married, there are some good reminders, so take a listen, and share this episode with friends who are engaged or plan to get married.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Business and Family | Taylor Levy + Che-Wei Wang Jun 24, 2019

Today, we'd like to introduce you to Taylor Levy and Che-Wei Wang [pron. sey-wey]. They are designers, inventors, parents, and lobsters. Yes, lobsters. They give a beautiful explanation as to why. Both Taylor and Che-Wei are alumni of MIT Media Lab and ITP at NYU. Their unique life experience has informed how they try to approach life, work, and family.

They exist to create the things they want to see in the world - from one of a kind time capsules, key wranglers, and beautifully designed pens (there's even one with a ruler on it!). We also learn about their guiding principles when creating new things. This duo is wise beyond their years. Listen and learn with us!

Check out their shop and learn more:
https://cwandt.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Super Bowl Baby... Literally | Martavia + Jarius Wynn Jun 17, 2019

Episode 48 is full, full of new life and tips on how to use a whiteboard to organize your life. In this episode, we learn from Martavia and Jarius Wynn, husband and wife and parents to four beautiful kids.

Jarius is a former NFL player for the Pittsburgh Steelers, who won Super Bowl XLV in 2010. Since his retirement, the duo runs a Real Estate business out of Athens, Ga (Go Dawgs!). Over the past few years, they've learned to excel as a team and find their own roles within the business.

Make sure to listen until the end, so you can hear a real-life story from this couple that involves a baby and the Super Bowl. We also hear how this couple manages an extremely busy life - with kids, all their activities, running a business while trying to make time for each other.

To learn more about their work:
https://martaviawynn.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Running a Start-up while Parenting a Differently Abled Child | Ben + Laura Harrison Jun 10, 2019

This week we meet Ben and Laura Harrison, Co-Founders of Jonas Paul Eyewear. Their mission is to help kids feel like themselves: comfortable, confident, and stylish. They strive to do it at a fair price while also giving a portion of each sale to help prevent childhood blindness around the world.

Out of a very personal experience, The Harrison family created Jonas Paul Eyewear after their son was born with a rare disorder known as Peter's Anomaly, which gave them a window into the world of blindness. Ben and Laura share very honestly about the ups and downs of parenting a child that is differently abled while running a business and working together.

To learn more about their work:
https://jonaspauleyewear.com/

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Whatever it takes | Jennifer + Mike Foster Jun 03, 2019

In episode 46, we meet Jennifer and Mike Foster, a couple who is all about creating togetherness. They are the Co-Authors of Five Dates, his and her workbooks to create connection! Mike is a speaker, author, and the podcast host of Fun Therapy. They have been married for 20+ years with two kids.

Mike and Jennifer are fun, kind, and full of stories from their lifetime. They don't shy away from pain, and they encourage us all to "whatever it takes." Listen out for their most recent fight and how what they thought they were fighting about was actually something completely different.

To learn more about their work:
https://fivedates.co
https://www.mikefoster.tv/podcast

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Enneagram and Choosing No Kids | Phileena + Chris Heuertz May 27, 2019

In this episode of Love or Work, we have the opportunity to learn from Chris and Phileena Heuertz, Founders of Gravity, a center for contemplative activism.

Chris helped launch South Asia’s first pediatric AIDS care home — creating a safe haven for children. Phileena has spent her life doing social justice work among the world’s poor. As a couple, Chris and Phileena served with the Word Made Flesh community for nearly 20 years, working for women and children victimized by human traffickers in the commercial sex industry. Then in 2012, they founded Gravity.

This duo has devoted their lives to others, and they share about making the choice to not have children. It wasn't a decision made out of selfishness; it was a decision made over years, full of hard conversations, grief and so much more.

Also, in this episode, we get into the Enneagram! Chris is the author of the Sacred Enneagram, so we had to dive in with an expert. Phileena, who wrote Mindful Silence, helps us understand the importance of mediation and contemplation as an essential practice to know ourselves and improve our relationships.

To learn more:
https://gravitycenter.com/sacredenneagram/
https://gravitycenter.com/mindfulsilence/
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/mindfulsilence

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Natural Healthy Living | Dr. Z + Mama Z May 20, 2019

Dr Eric and Sabrina Zielinski are best selling authors of the book The Essential Oils Diet.

Dr. Z and Mama Z teach us about the importance of natural healthy living and how it impacts marriage and family. They teach us how essential oils can improve your quality of life and how to integrate healthy eating for the whole family. They also remind us about the importance of self-care and give us practical tips to incorporate that into everyday life. This podcast teaches us all about essential oils and even shares a special “stress detox” bath recipe.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Learn more about The Z's:
https://naturallivingfamily.com/

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Creating Strategy as a Couple | Sam + Toni Collier May 13, 2019

Episode 43 is live! This week we are introducing you to our friends Sam and Toni Collier! These two do ALL the things, and they are so full of energy. They are extremely gifted communicators. Toni is a Host, Communicator, and Consultant, while Sam is a Speaker, Author, Podcaster, and National TV and Radio Host. See... they do all the things!

Sam and Toni share their love story, the journey of blending a family, and how work intertwines into it all. The Colliers talk through what it's like for people to label them as being the "Same Person" because of their similar personalities, their giftings, and their charisma, but in reality, they are very different. So as a couple, they dissect the following: Morning Person vs Not a Morning Person. Visionary vs Executor. Extrovert vs Introvert.

For the umpteenth time, the Colliers (along with so many other couples we've interviewed) recommend counseling without a doubt, individual counseling and marriage counseling. We all bring baggage to the table. Maybe it's a previous marriage and a baby like Toni or being adopted like Sam. Maybe there's trauma or maybe we're struggling with our purpose. It's probably time for us all to go find a counselor.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Learn more about their work:
https://www.samcollier.tv/
http://tonijcollier.com

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Sex Therapy with an Expert | Laurie Watson May 06, 2019

Sex. We all do it. Most want to do more of it, and we all have a difficult time talking about it.

In episode 42, Jeff and Andre interview Laurie Watson, a sex therapist with 30 years of experience, Author and Co-Host of 'Foreplay: Radio Sex Therapy.' For about three weeks, we collected questions from our listeners, and Laurie answers all of them without hesitation. We'll learn about all the things, from the number of times per week that is considered healthy to vibrators to how to overcome a mental block to reach orgasm. We won't say this episode covers it ALL, but it's pretty close.

Our hope in this episode is to help normalize a conversation that can be difficult. We want to empower each of you to enter your partnerships with confidence and maybe some tips and tricks to maintain a healthy relationship.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Learn more about the Laurie and her work:
https://awakeningscenter.org/
Find a Sex Therapist:
https://awakeningscenter.org/services/telethealth/
Listen to the Foreplay Podcast:
https://awakeningscenter.org/resources/foreplay-radio-sex-therapy/

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Relationship Counseling in an App | Becca + Steve Dziedzic Apr 29, 2019

In episode 41, we meet Becca + Steve Dziedzic. Becca is a Birth and Postpartum Doula and Steve is the founder at Lasting, a relationship counseling app. Steve and Becca share their experience creating an app while being newly married. They talk about how identity can be so wrapped up in the things we create, which can cause such a strain on relationships and our personal well being. Steve talks about attachment theory and Becca share about her postpartum care. Learn with us as we hear from this duo!

The Dziedzic's live in Brooklyn New York with their daughter Josie.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Learn more about the lasting app:
https://www.getlasting.com/

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Questions from Listeners | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Apr 22, 2019

In Episode 40, we are keeping things fun! Jeff and Andre are answering questions from the listeners! Hear their thoughts on March Madness to the Tidying up trend to how to handle when a spouse changes.

Do you want Jeff and Andre to answer one of your questions or address a specific topic? If so, submit it at loveorwork.com

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Prioritizing Family | Laurel + Peter Greer Apr 15, 2019

On Episode 39, we meet Peter and Laurel Greer. Peter is the CEO and President of HOPE International, which invests in the dreams of families in the world's underserved communities as they proclaim and live the Gospel.

Peter and Laurel have four kids, biological, adopted and fostered. We hear briefly about adoption, and we hear about the beautiful and hard work of fostering as a family.

Peter and Laurel share how their family truly found their priorities. Peter drafted a resignation letter, and Laurel is in charge of it. This episode also hits on the importance of sex in marriage, but not without an emotional connection.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Learn more about HOPE International:
https://www.hopeinternational.org/

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Working Together, Side by Side | Nikolle + Jose Reyes Apr 08, 2019

This weeks episode is the final installment from the live Love or Work event in Atlanta. Jose and Nikolle Reyes are the Principals at Metaleap Creative, an agency here in Atlanta working with brands from Coca-Cola to Paste to In Touch Magazine. Jose is the Romantic Creative, while Nikolle comes from Wall Street and gets stuff done! The duo has worked together for 15 years, building this agency and building a family.

Each summer the Reyes family packs up and heads out of Atlanta for three-five weeks, setting out on an adventure. We hear how they make it happen! Nikolle and Jose also talk about what it's like to live and work together, sitting side by side. How do they navigate separating work and home, maybe they don't! Tune in and learn with us!

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Learn more about Metaleap Creative:
http://www.metaleapcreative.com/

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

The Known Project | Kaitie + Jared Bryant Apr 01, 2019

Meet Kaitie and Jared Bryant, a family of four that lives in Athens, Georgia. Kaitie is highly creative and always has a new idea while Jared loves stability and alludes to the idea of having the same job forever.

The Bryants are the Founders of The Known Project which creates resources to know and love others better. Kaitie says, "You love people by knowing them." The Known Project created a book of questions with different levels of depth to challenge all of us in our relationships, friends, family, and colleagues.

In this episode, Kaitie and Jared also talk about the different ways they apologize to one another, how they step when the other is in the "Red Zone," and they share their favorite question to ask people (it's not what you think...).

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Learn more about The Known Project:
https://www.knownproject.com/home

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Transracial, Open Adoption | Jonathan + Callie Rich Mar 25, 2019

In this episode, we see a beautiful in-depth look at adoption, business, and influence. Meet Jonathan and Callie Rich, husband and wife and parents to six beautiful kids. They run J.Rich Atlanta, which is a team of Realtors & Innovators devoted to inventive branding strategies, a matchless knowledge of the local market, and an unconditional commitment to the care of our clients. Jonathan and Callie talk about the importance of living and working in the community you are investing in.

Beyond business and real estate, the Rich's share about their experience of adoption. They talk about many of the fears people have about open adoption and share about the challenges of transracial adoption. What's required when you adopt children of a different race? What's the benefit of having an open adoption.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Learn more about J.Rich Atlanta:
http://www.jrichatlanta.com/

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

The Creative Process | Steve + Sarah Dubbeldam Mar 18, 2019

Meet Sarah + Steve Dubbeldam. Sarah is the founder of Darling Media, which is dedicated to exploring the complexities of the art of being a woman, through digital and printed media while being committed to leaving women untouched. Steve is the Founder and CEO of Wilderness Collective, which inspires character development through exploration via adventure experiences, films, and printed magazines. Both Sarah and Steve have partnered with brands like Nike, Lululemon, Aerie, Alaska Airlines and so many more.

In this duo, both are entrepreneurs and seekers of adventures. They challenge us to pick up our kids and show them the world. We shouldn't let our fear or all of the luggage, that comes with travel, stop us! Steve and Sarah also share their creative processes with us. We hope you'll dive in with us!

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Learn more about Steve and Sarah's work:
https://darlingmagazine.org/
https://wildernesscollective.com

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Mental Health and Living without Secrets | Tripp + Hannah Joiner Crosby Mar 11, 2019

Meet Hannah and Tripp! Hannah is an abstract artist and Tripp is a Comedian and Filmmaker. In Episode 34, this duo gets real. Tears are had by just about everyone. They both are advocates for mental health, and they share their experiences with anxiety, medication, and counseling. We learn about their adventure to LA at the beginning of their marriage and how that shaped their identity as a couple.

And then, when we all think they have been vulnerable enough, Tripp shares about a deeply personal conversation he had with Hannah about porn. The two challenge us all to live a life without secrets so that freedom can be had by all of us in our relationships.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

To learn more about the Crosby's:
http://www.hannahjoinercrosby.com/
http://www.trippcrosby.com/

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

From a Struggle with Infertility to Raising Middle Schoolers | Stacy + Ken Coleman Mar 04, 2019

Meet Ken and Stacy Coleman. Stacy is the Vice President of US Imprints, and Ken is a career expert and host of the Ken Coleman Show. Ken and Stacy were some of Jeff and Andre's first friends in Atlanta over 10 years ago. In this episode, we hear about the struggle with infertility, their adoption, raising middle schoolers. The Coleman’s share vulnerably about their experiences, and they even let us in on a beautiful miracle that changed their lives.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

To learn more about the Ken Coleman Show:
https://www.kencoleman.com/

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Preemptive Love | Jessica + Jeremy Courtney Feb 25, 2019

“Our number one responsibility is to raise high-functioning, intelligent, nuanced, loving, service-oriented adults. I think that’s what we’re really trying to do.
And we think there might be an inverse correlation between safety and how we want to raise our kids to be, if we want to raise our kids in the name of protection and then suddenly expect them to flip a switch at 21 or 26 and become service-orientated, loving, nuanced, kind, worldly, and the best sense of culture and open to other ideas.”

Jeremy and Jess Courtney of Preemptive Love talk about how relationships change language, what they learned about how other families do life while living amongst another culture, and how being hopeful is a lot easier when you’re closer to the problem.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

To learn more about Preemptive Love:
https://preemptivelove.org/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Long Distance Love and Baseball | Ashley + Collin McHugh Feb 18, 2019

He looked perfect on paper, and she felt like throwing up in her salad on their first date because of nerves. He loved her honesty, and she knew it would be okay when he asked if there was something stuck in his teeth.

Meet, MLB pro for the Houston Astros, Collin and, calligrapher and printmaker, Ashley McHugh.
In this episode, we talk about what it's like to live a non-traditional family life with lots of traveling and physical distance in between them while being such independent individuals. We learn how important it is to have honest conversations about needs and expectations. How do you and your partner navigate seasons of long distance and travel?

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Valentines Day | Jeff + Andre Shinabarger Feb 11, 2019

In this episode, Jeff and Andre share some quick tips and tricks on how to NOT celebrate Valentine’s Day. Instead, they will talk about planning regular date nights and thinking up intentional questions you can ask one another.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Traveling the World as a Family | Jason + Danica Russell Feb 04, 2019

Meet Danica + Jason Russell, Co-Authors of "A Little Radical: The ABC's of Activism," Co-founders of Invisible Children. In this episode, we learn all about traveling the world as a family, the good, the bad and the ugly. Jason and Danica are both highly creative entrepreneurs and have had a partnership in life since they were eight years old! Let’s learn about exposing your kids to the world, making your own path as a family and not letting anyone else dictate that for you.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about Broom Stick Engine:
http://www.broomstickengine.com/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Love and Pizza | Drew + Natalie French Jan 28, 2019

On this week’s episode of Love or Work, we hear from the founders of Your Pie Pizza, Drew and Natalie French. This couple started their business on their honeymoon in Italy 10 years ago. They have worked together and also had to sacrifice a career for each other. They offer incredible insight into what it’s like for one of them to put their lifelong dream on hold when kids come into the picture. It’s a real challenge that many of us face.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about Your Pie:
https://yourpie.com/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Love Wins | Brett + B.T. Harman Jan 21, 2019

Meet Brett, Producer at CNN, and B.T. Harman, creator of Blue Babies Pink. As our journey continues, this episode takes a slightly different and important perspective from newlyweds and thought leaders in the LGBTQ community. We learned some incredible advice for any parent who has a gay child. They talk about selflessness being the most important attribute in making marriage work. They challenged us with their thoughtfulness and we hope you will open your heart to learning from them as well.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about B.T. and Brett:
https://www.bluebabiespink.com/

https://btharman.com/

https://mailchi.mp/c61a195a08e4/the54321

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Living with a Dreamer and a Realist | Jeff + Andre Shinabarger Jan 14, 2019

In the second episode of 2019, Jeff and Andre are talking all things dreamer (the one that has all the ideas) and realist (the one that makes all the lists).

Are you a dreamer or are you the realist in your relationship? If you are the dreamer, how do you not overwhelm your partner with all your ideas?
If you are the realist, how do you not squash your partner's dreams? Jeff and Andre talk about these challenges and give some very practical tips about how to make it work in your partnerships.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Marriage is Funny | Gregg + Jeff Foxworthy Jan 07, 2019

To start 2019, Jeff and Andre are interviewing Jeff + Gregg Foxworthy, married for 33 years! Jeff is a world-renowned comedian, outdoorsman, and creator of the best-selling game 'Relative Insanity.' Gregg is a former actress and teammate to Jeff. In this episode, we learn about their love story, the good, the bad, and the ugly of being self-employed, and all things redneck.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose, and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about Jeff + Gregg:
http://www.jefffoxworthy.com/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

What we've learned | Jeff + Andre Shinabarger Dec 24, 2018

In the last episode of 2018, Jeff and Andre, with special guests, the Producer and the Manager of the Podcast, are sharing some of the highlights of what they have learned since launching the podcast. They run through their bucket list couples to interview and what's the one thing that helped their relationships the most!

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Charity: water | Vik + Scott Harrison Dec 17, 2018

Meet Scott and Vik Harrison, Co-founders of Charity: Water, a non-profit organization bringing clean water to people who don't have it. Since the start, they have brought clean water to 8.5 million people in 26 countries, making a true impact on this problem. Vik now runs the Branded Startup, supporting creative entrepreneurs with a purpose. Scott recently released 'Thirst,' a New York Times Best Selling book. If you are in the creative space, the solving problem space, or non-profit space, this is an interview you'll want to hear. Be challenged and inspired by this world-changing couple who is working to stay in love and raise a healthy family.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about Scott + Vik:

www.thebrandedstartup.com

www.charitywater.org

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Being a Good Neighbor | Donna + Leroy Barber Dec 10, 2018

Meet Donna and Leroy Barber, Founders of The Voices Project, which is Influencing culture through training and promoting leaders of color. Leroy Barber has dedicated more than 25 years to eradicating poverty, confronting homelessness, restoring local neighborhoods, and healing racism. Donna has served as an educator, trainer and coach for urban youth and urban youth program leaders for more than 25 years. This couple is committed to living what Dr. King called “the beloved community." In this episode, we learn from this incredible couple on raising children, how to handle conflict with your spouse, and being married to an endless idea person.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: loveorwork.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about The Voices Project:
https://www.voices-project.org/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.

www.plywoodpeople.com

Artists and Interracial Marriage | Amena Brown + Matt Owen Dec 03, 2018

This weeks episode with Matt and Amena is perfect for the newly married, for those with fears about long-term relationships and for those who just want to laugh. They share stories about their family differences, their creative differences, and how they have learned to know their roles and stay in love.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about Matt + Amena:

http://www.amenabrown.com/

http://www.opdiggy.com/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Philosophy, Strategy and Tactics for Life and Family | Chris + Teri Bledsoe Nov 26, 2018

This week on the Love or Work Podcast we hear from Chris and Teri Bledsoe, husband and wife, parents of four, and Founders of Banker's Dashboard and On Purpose Goods. Chris and Teri talk through their philosophy, strategy, tactics on life, work and family. They encourage us to start with the end in mind. They are a family that strives to put others first - whether it's through listening, giving or serving.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about On Purpose Goods:
https://onpurposegoods.com/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Hope Heals | Katherine + Jay Wolf Nov 19, 2018

This week we have the great honor to learn from Katherine and Jay Wolf, a husband and wife duo, whose dreams, family and marriage instantly changed when Katherine suffered a massive brain stem stroke at the age of 26. They teach us about the largest minority group in the world, and how to talk with our kids about people with disabilities. In everything they do, they desire to redefine healing and manifest hope. Their story and their life are a true testament that suffering can be hard, painful, good and beautiful all at the same time--it can all co-exist. The Wolf’s teach us how to do that.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about Hope Heals:
http://www.hopeheals.com

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

NBA, Little Kids, and Road Trips | Juliet + Kyle Korver Nov 12, 2018

Kyle Korver, NBA All-Star and player with Cleveland Cavaliers. Juliet, a Wellness Coach and musician. They teach us about being married to someone completely opposite of you. We learn how they intentionally stay connected during the NBA season. Juliet gives us practical tips of asking for help and support to maintain your sanity and health. Kyle shares about how he stays healthy and what it means to be a good Dad.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

The Counseling Episode | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Nov 05, 2018

This is a before and after recording of our FIRST marriage counseling appointment. Andre forced Jeff to go. Jeff did not want to go. Maybe you can relate with their fears and learnings before and after their counseling session.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

A dinner conversation | Tedashii + Danielle Anderson, Matt + Margaret Reynolds and the Shinabargers Oct 29, 2018

This is a bonus episode of a dinner conversation we had with some close friends. Matt and Margaret share how they became better partners in marriage. Tedashii and Danielle talk about the false information about marriage that caused them to have unrealistic expectations. Andre and Jeff share another “for better or worse” story that might leave you gagging. Have a seat with us at the table for this fun conversation!

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Visionaries, Entrepreneurs and Dream Releasers | Jennie + Zac Allen Oct 22, 2018

Jennie and Zac are both visionaries and entrepreneurs. Jennie is founder of the if:Gathering and an author. Zac is a serial entrepreneur. In this episode, the Allens share some of their secrets of how they make it ALL work in a family who each have their own BIG dreams. They talk about taking turns when starting something new, being “dream releasers” and how to keep pursuing your dreams even when it feels impossible.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about Jennie and Zac:
https://www.jennieallen.com/
http://www.5tglobal.org

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

How to change the way we work to benefit our family | Bryan + Shannon Miles Oct 15, 2018

Meet Bryan + Shannon Miles, Co-CEOs of BELAY. Shannon is the author of “The Third Option” and Bryan is the author of “Virtual Culture”. Their family vision is to travel and vacation with their kids. Belay Solutions was born out of a desire to spend more time as a family and change the way we all view work. Bryan and Shannon share secrets of co-running a company and with 700+ virtual employees, while living a life that’s moving them towards their future goals.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about Belay Solutions:
https://belaysolutions.com/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Grief in Marriage | Ashley + Kyle Jones Oct 08, 2018

This week we meet Kyle and Ashley Jones. Ashley is the founder of Love Not Lost, a non-profit organization who photographs people facing a terminal diagnosis. This dream came out of their own painful loss of their daughter. They share about the difficulty of grief and marriage. Their redemptive story will provide hope in the midst of times of loss and despair.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about Love Not Lost:
https://lovenotlost.org/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Until Death Do Us Part | Andre + Jeff Shinabarger Oct 01, 2018

So, this week we are changing things up a bit. We are calling this a bonus episode because it wasn't something we originally planned. Join us to hear three fun and lighthearted stories centered around the vows we took 16 years ago: for better/for worse, for richer/for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part. We'll dive into the great orange juice debate and what happens when one partner tears their achilles. We even have a challenge for you at the end...

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Family Meetings, Fitness, and 7 second embraces Josh + Erin Guerrieri Sep 24, 2018

In this episode, we hear from Josh and Erin. They own and run a gym called Fit Wit and a family blog and resource called Build Your Best Family. This is the episode you should listen to if you have young kids. They have FIVE!! You will learn about how to run family meetings and daily check-ins. We also hear about their RECKONING in seeing the importance of their partners happiness and the changes that needed to be made for that to happen.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website:
www.loveorwork.com

Instagram:
www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about Build Your Best Family and Fit Wit:

http://buildyourbestfamily.com/

https://www.fitwit.com/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.

www.plywoodpeople.com

Forty Five Years of Marriage Wisdom | Frank + Connie Sabo Sep 17, 2018

This week we learn from Frank, a retired Burger King Franchise owner, and Connie, a former executive at Ralph Lauren. The Sabos have been married for 45 years. In this episode you will learn about creative holiday traditions and how to plan a purposeful vacation that will shape the hearts of your kids.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Love for Atlanta, Beer, and Japanese Toilets | Mary Stuart + Joel Iverson Sep 10, 2018

In this week's episode, we meet Joel, co-founder of Monday Night Brewing, and Mary Stuart, an Atlanta Real Estate Agent. While growing two strong businesses and raising four kids, the idea of slowing down was difficult. Mary Stuart shares how she needed to make the tough decision of taking a Sabbatical. Get ready to learn about Japanese toilets, the legacy of your children and sacrifice.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website:
www.loveorwork.com

Instagram:
www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about Monday Night Brewing:
https://mondaynightbrewing.com/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Loving an Entrepreneur | Dorcas Cheng-Tozun Sep 03, 2018

Entrepreneurs have the highest rate of infidelity. In this episode, we meet Dorcas Cheng-Tozun, author of “Start, Love, Repeat: How to Stay in Love with Your Entrepreneur in a Crazy Start-up World.” We learn from Dorcas, a writer for Inc.com, who believes that just because you are married to an entrepreneur, it does not mean you should be a single parent. Dorcas reminds us that boundaries for every couple look different, but when one person in the couple is suffering, there needs to be a change. Ned Tozun, husband to Dorcas, started d.light, a leader in solar power for off-grid families.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com
Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more from Dorcas:
https://www.chengtozun.com/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Homelessness and Serving as a Family | Cecilia + Terence Lester Aug 27, 2018

In this episode, we have the honor of learning from Cecilia + Terence Lester, the co-starters of Love Beyond Walls, an Atlanta-based non-profit that provides dignity and support services to those experiencing homelessness and poverty. These two talk from personal experience that have shaped their lives in profound ways. Terence and Cecilia share about ways to include your family in your dream and how to educate your children on social issues. In short, they change the world with their family.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about Love Beyond Walls:

http://www.lovebeyondwalls.org/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

Babywearing, Entrepreneurship, and Protecting Time | Keri + Brian Fosse Aug 20, 2018

Keri and Brian are co-founders of Lalabu, a simple babywearing company based out of Atlanta. The Fosses both left their corporate American jobs to launch Lalabu. In this conversation, we learn about the struggles of entrepreneurship within young families and hear about how Keri and Brian have learned to protect their time, while being okay with the weeds in their garden.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website:
https://www.loveorwork.com

Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about Lalabu:
https://www.lalabu.com/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
https://www.plywoodpeople.com

Intimacy, Parenting Boys and Cancer | Bill + Kitti Murray Aug 13, 2018

Bill and Kitti Murray have been married for 40 years. Bill is a Life Coach and Kitti is the founder of Refuge Coffee. They have persevered through many challenges including a cancer diagnosis, raising four boys, and starting a coffee truck. In this episode, we are encouraged to become an expert on what refreshes our spouse, we are challenged by the reality of in sickness and health, and we see the obstacles of what it takes to launch a non-profit.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

www.loveorwork.com

www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about Refuge Coffee:

http://refugecoffeeco.com/

www.instagram.com/refugecoffeeco

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.

www.plywoodpeople.com

Purpose Hotel, Adoption and Family Rhythms | Shannon + Jeremy Cowart Aug 06, 2018

In this episode, you meet Jeremy, an internationally acclaimed Photographer and Founder of the Purpose Hotel and Shannon, a Realtor in Nashville. The Cowarts’ lives are full, between four kids, launching a hotel, and keeping sanity. These two speak to how to create more margin in life while still going after BIG goals.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

www.loveorwork.com

www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Learn more about The Purpose Hotel:

https://www.thepurposehotel.com/

https://www.instagram.com/thepurposehotel/

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.

www.plywoodpeople.com

Co-Owners, Work Travel and Imperfection | Liz & Ben Bohannon Jul 30, 2018

Liz and Ben Bohannon are co-founders of Sseko Designs. They work side by side every day. We can all imagine the challenges that come with that. Liz and Ben share about the balance to turn work off, while keeping an openness to “have a work thought.” They share rhythms they have found helpful when travel separates them.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by Andre Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and Andre learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

www.loveorwork.com

www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Follow Sseko:

https://ssekodesigns.com

www.instagram.com/ssekodesigns

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.
Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.

www.plywoodpeople.com

Day Dating, Sabbaticals and Fashion | Angelo & Dana Spinola Jul 09, 2018

Meet Dana and Angelo, a duo inspired by fashion and law. Dana is CEO and Founder of Fab'rik and Free Fab'rik while Angelo is a Shareholder at Littler Mendelson. Learn with us as we hear how these two make things work between busy travel schedules, multiple kids, and running a successful fashion brand.

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Meet Dana and Angelo Spinola, a duo inspired by fashion and law. Dana is CEO and Founder of Fab'rik and Free Fab'rik while Angelo is a Shareholder at Littler Mendelson. Learn with us as we hear how these two make things work between busy travel schedules, multiple kids, and running a successful fashion brand. Oh...and 4 kids, 12 chickens, 2 dogs...and maybe a goat.

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by André Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and André learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

Website: www.loveorwork.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Follow and comment on instagram for a chance to win a $100 Gift Card to Fabrik.

Follow Fabrik:

www.fabrikstyle.com

www.instagram.com/fabrik

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.

Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

The Tension of Work, Marriage & Kids | Andre & Jeff Shinabarger Jul 09, 2018

Welcome to the Love or Work Podcast, hosted by André Shinabarger (Physician Assistant, Grady Hospital) and Jeff Shinabarger (Social Entrepreneur and Founder of Plywood People). They are asking the question: Is it possible to change the world, stay in love and raise a healthy family? 100 interviews where Jeff and André learn from other working families in the journey of marriage, purpose and parenting.

In the first episode, Jeff and André share their personal story that lead them to this project. They love each other, love their kids, and love their work, but that doesn’t mean it hasn’t been hard. They are not the experts, but the learners and are excited to share their findings, tensions, stories and questions with the world. They are looking for recommendations of people to interview along the journey. Please send suggestions to info@loveorwork.com or simply comment on Instagram (@loveorwork).

Subscribe to the Podcast today to follow the journey.

Website: www.loveorwork.com

Instagram: www.instagram.com/loveorwork

Love or Work is a project of Plywood People.

Plywood is a non-profit in Atlanta leading a community of start-ups doing good.
www.plywoodpeople.com

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