Life with God: A Renovaré Podcast

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Marilyn McEntyre — Words Matter Feb 21, 2022

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Nathan speaks with one of his favorite authors, Marilyn McEntyre, about why “words matter more than we can imagine.” She explores words as sacraments, as creative forces, as conveyors of truth, and as precious ingredients in the feast called conversation.

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[2:21] Where did your love of words begin?

[4:52] Could you explain a little about how caring for words is a moral issue?

[6:34] How about words as art?

[9:15] You take this beyond writing and poetry—into normal conversation?

[14:41] How do you use words as a spiritual practice?

[18:53] What would you say to folks who are just beginning to think in terms of using words with some intentionality?

[21:54] Do you speak other languages? What does that change for you reading in languages besides English? Does it open up a different world for you?

[25:40] I was really moved by your section on felicity. When a word goes out of use in a culture, is it representative that that thing has gone out of use?

[27:55] Do you like Noam Chomsky and his work?

[33:09] What's your “one sentence” about the book?

[34:47] What gives you hope in our culture today, connected to words?

[39:02] What I was hearing was words as a way to love others, to love what's good and right, to care enough about the words we use.

Resources

Marilyn’s website: marilynmcentyre.com
Books by Marilyn McEntyre (a sampling)
Richard Foster describes Lectio Divina
“Politics and the English Language,” essay by George Orwell
No Passion Spent by George Steiner

Mimi Dixon — First Things Feb 07, 2022

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How do pastors prevent burn out and keep first things first? Renovaré Ministry Team member Mimi Dixon shares insights and lessons from her decades of experience as a senior pastor.

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[1:11] There's an article in Christianity today about pastors that you had mentioned to me. Could you share a little about that?

[6:35] What are some things that you think might be helpful for pastors in this season?

[17:40] And this happened after you let go of the franchise mentality?

[21:32] How does the phrase “first things” play in all this for you?

[25:55] Is that way of doing ministry realistic in this day and age?

[27:58] I’m thinking of when you asked Dallas if he sinned. Could you share with folks the answer?

[36:16] Would you be up for giving a prayer for folks that are in ministry?

Resources

Renovaré Retreat for Pastors
“First and Second Things,” God in the Dock pp. 278-280, by C.S. Lewis

Ted Harro — Meet the New President of Renovaré Jan 31, 2022

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Ted Harro joins Nathan Foster to talk about his unexpected journey to become Renovaré’s new president.

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[2:53] I caught wind that you were really pushing to get this position. Is that accurate?

[5:51] What changed, to get you in a position where you actually did apply and follow through?

[8:23] How are you feeling about coming into the position?

[8:54] What first drew you to Renovaré as an organization?

[11:25] What was your experience like with the Renovaré Institute?

[13:06] How do you see your background as a consultant helping your work at Renovaré?

[15:49] What do you think it will look like in the coming years?

[19:23] I believe it was Carolyn who asked you, “Well, first hundred days, what are you going to do?” And I believe you just said “listen,” right?

[20:19] You don’t come in with an agenda. Is that accurate?

[20:44] What excites you about this position?

[23:20] What concerns you about stepping into this role?

[25:48] Favorite books?

[27:35] What’s this business about bread?

Winn Collier — On Eugene Peterson Jan 17, 2022

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To write Eugene Peterson's biography, Winn Collier spent considerable time with at the Peterson's home, read Eugene's letters, and conducted countless interviews. He discovered a man with a pastor's heart who, while far from perfect, had integrity and a deep love for God.

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[1:40] Are you tired of talking about Eugene now? And if so, why?

[2:26] What do you think Eugene would think about the biography coming out and all the interviews and such?

[3:32] I'm curious to hear, how did you come to write the book, be the biographer?

[8:31] What surprised you in that journey?

[9:39] Eugene was like the anti celebrity, but yet in a sense he was the perfect celebrity, because their hospitality… I've heard so many stories of people who they just invited in.

[11:43] I found it delightful that at the beginning of the book there’s the map of Montana, and it kind of has that, you know, Tolkein feel to it. How important was place, for Eugene?

[14:51] How much do you think some of his thinking was influenced by [his mom]?

[18:37] What do you hope people remember about Eugene?

[20:52] Do you have a favorite story from the book?

[24:30] Eugene did pauses when he talked. What was that like for you when you were interviewing him?

[32:40] It sounds like a number of these values Eugene and Jan embodied you're trying to lean into ... Could you tell folks a little about what you're up to there in Holland, Michigan?

Resources

The Eugene Peterson Center for Christian Imagination
Pastor Theologians Podcast
Connect with Winn Collier on winncollier.com
Winn’s book A Burning in My Bones (This is the next book featured in the Renovaré Book Club.)

Carol Berry — Learning from Henri Nouwen and Vincent Van Gogh Jan 03, 2022

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Podcast guest Carol Berry talks with Nate about how she came to know the life of Vincent van Gogh through the teachings of Henri Nouwen, and what she has learned from these two men about solidarity, compassion, and art as a way to touch people’s lives.

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[2:11] Can I tell you about how I discovered Van Gogh?
[4:18] When did you first begin to love Vincent’s work?
[7:25] What do you think Vincent was trying to say to people?
[10:06] Those doors [of pastoral ministry] were closed for him, correct?
[15:13] I’ve always been curious about Starry Night. The church light… why is it out?
[16:56] What was it like to sit in Nouwen’s class in 1979?
[19:05] The compassionate life… can you speak a little about that?
[22:08] Did you get a sense of Henri’s favorite Van Gogh painting?
[24:06] Is there any connection you see between the two [men’s lives]?
[26:51] The end of Vincent’s life… what do you make of how things turned out for him?
[29:33] You did another book on the spiritual life of Vincent. Can you tell us a little about that book?
[31:01] How did these two men impact your life?
[33:14] There’s an honesty in Vincent’s work that I don’t understand, but I think he told the truth. What are your thoughts on that?

Resources

Learning from Henri Nouwen and Vincent van Gogh: A Portrait of the Compassionate Life, by Carol Berry
Vincent Van Gogh (Modern Spiritual Masters), by Carol Berry
Connect with our friends at the Henri Nouwen Society
Renovaré Podcast Episode 63 with Deirdre LaNoue - The Spiritual Legacy of Henri Nouwen

Michael Card — Inexpressible Dec 20, 2021

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In this episode, Nathan talks with author and musician Michael Card about hesed, an untranslatable Hebrew word that expresses God’s love and faithfulness. Michael believes it may be the most important word in Scripture and spent ten years writing a book to unpack its meaning.
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Show Notes
[2:29] What would you tell your younger self?

[3:05] What is it that you care about these days?

[6:16] You wrote a book about one word. Tell us about the book.

[9:22] What does the word mean to you personally?

[10:31] How do you live into it?

[15:05] I’m noticing in your writings and in your music this love of Scripture. Where did that come from?

[18:31] What do you hope people take away from the book?

[22:25] How do you personally work with Scripture these days?

Resources

Inexpressible: Hesed and the Mystery of God’s Lovingkindness, by Michael Card
Michael Card’s website
“Hymn to the Kindness of God,” from his album To the Kindness of God

John Eldredge — Benevolent Detachment Dec 06, 2021

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Nate talks with author John Eldredge about healing from the trauma of the pandemic, benevolent detachment, what it means to consecrate your empathy to Christ, and learning to hear the voice of God.

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[1:19] What was the impetus for this book?

[3:57] I'm glad to hear you reference the pandemic in this way. It has really baffled me how silent people are in terms of its effects. I think it’s going to take 5 or 10 years out of this to realize some of the ways that it has negatively impacted, and I wish people talk more about it.

[8:25] What do you think people should do (to heal their trauma response)?

[15:23] I think I’m hearing that instead of coping mechanism that don’t yield fruit or good results, but coping mechanisms that bring life.

[19:50] I really like the idea of benevolent detachment. How do you detach and yet use your ability to change for good?

[24:26] One of the phrases I’ll use is trusting people to God. As much as I would like to control and manage things, there are some limitations.

[25:06] What does this look like for you, and what are some of the challenges you face in moving into benevolent detachment?

[30:33] Why do you think so many Christians are hung up on the idea of hearing from God?

Resources

Get Your Life Back: Everyday Practices in a World Gone Mad, by John Eldredge
Beautiful Outlaw, by John Eldredge
The One Minute Pause app

Richard Foster — The Influence of John Woolman Nov 15, 2021

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Eighteen century preacher and abolitionist John Woolman, whose journal is a Renovaré Book Club selection, had a profound impact on Renovaré founder Richard Foster, who like Woolman is Quaker. In this episode, Richard discusses the life and work of this humble yet bold follower of Jesus.

Show Notes

How did you discover John Woolman’s Journal?
What was it, as a college student, reading Woolman’s journal?
Woolman’s first experience with slavery.
The story of Benjamin Lay.
Woolman dealt with the three great isms of our day: racism, militarism, and consumerism.
Could you help folks understand a little about Quakerism and the Friends?
Tell us about your doctoral dissertation.
What would you hope for people reading the book to take away from it?

Resources

The Journal and Major Essays of John Woolman, edited by Phillips P. Moulton
Join the Renovaré Book Club to read Woolman's book in December 2021

Hannah Anderson — God Revealed In Nature Nov 01, 2021

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Nathan talks with author Hannah Anderson about seasons, humility, and how the God we love in scripture is a God who is being revealed through nature.

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[1:24] Why do you write?

[2:19] How important is it for you to be honest in your writing?

[8:21] Could you share a little about your draw to the wonder and mystery in nature?

[10:38] How are you in nature, in terms of observing and being?

[12:37] What is it about seasons that you’re drawn to?

[15:06] Make the connection between your experience growing up and appreciating nature and scripture.

[18:04] What are some rhythms or practices for you, being in the created order?

[21:44] How did your book, Turning of Days, come to be?

[24:55] This summer in Colorado the wildflowers were off the charts. I’ve tried learning their names, and the names of the trees. I found in being able to name them, it enriched my experience. Is this a similar experience for you? Am I on the right path?

[29:55] In which Hannah reads a selection from Fall: Section 7 (p. 116)

Resources

Turning of Days: Lessons from Nature, Season, and Spirit, by Hannah Anderson
Humble Roots: How Humility Grounds and Nourishes Your Soul, by Hannah Anderson
Hannah’s website, Sometimes a Light

Alice Fryling — Aging Faithfully Oct 18, 2021

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Spiritual director and author Alice Fryling believes aging is an invitation from God to embrace our limitations and discover fruitfulness and transformation in unexpected places.

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[2:13] What was it like for you to write this book?

[5:07] As you’ve been aging, what has been happening in your soul?

[7:56] It’s interesting that the idea of living within our limitations is seen as a negative and something to be fought. Is part of aging learning to live within the limitations that have now presented themselves?

[9:58] As you are talking about your limitations, you’re smiling. How have you gotten to that place where this is not something to be fought and hated, but embracing where you’re at?

[14:29] In the book you talk about productivity and fruitfulness. Can you share about those things?

[17:51] Do you have a word for folks who are really struggling with navigating aging?

[25:57] Why do we fight growing older?

[27:52] You wrote a book on the Enneagram. How is that helpful in aging?

Resources