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    Lez Hang Out | Lesbian Life & Queer Culture

    Hang out with Ellie Brigida and Leigh Holmes Foster, the lesbians you’d want at your potluck! From lesbian life and sapphic dating to queer culture, community, and LGBTQ+ representation in entertainment, media, and pop culture, Lez Hang Out is your go-to podcast for unapologetically queer conversations, plenty of laughs, and a lot of sapphic socialization.

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    SBG 115: The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants with Colette McIntyre Nov 13, 2023
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    Welcome back lezzies! Slip into your magical unwashed jeans and get ready for a deep dive into a story of chosen family, sneaky sleepovers, compulsory heterosexuality and classic baby gay chaos.

    This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with writer, comedian, and friend of the pod Colette McInytre (@yungbabayaga) to talk about why The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants books Should’ve Been Gay. The first of these books came out on September 11, 2001! That’s right, when we talk about post 9/11 America, we’re talking about an America that knows about the magic of scissoring your besties via shared pants.

    There are many occasions where we really have to stretch for these SBG’s, but The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants is truly a gay treasure trove. For those who aren’t in the know, the series follows a group of gals being pals through high school and into adulthood who stay connected to one another through a shared pair of jeans that magically fits all four of them in spite of them having different body types. There are some strict rules for these pants including the very concerning rule of “Never wash the pants” and the possibly gayest rule, “Boys cannot remove the pants. Only you or another sister can remove the pants”.

    We follow the journey of the pants as they move between the four teenagers throughout their first summer apart. Each of the girls have a pretty queer storyline, but the one that jumps out the most is definitely Bridget’s soccer camp experience. This girl is going through it. Between the loss of her mom, her massive daddy issues, and her overwhelming thirst for competition and the validation of winning, she is really at the perfect level of vulnerability for comphet to ruin her life. Bridget spends her entire summer trying to seduce her soccer coach and the second she actually gets with him she loses her freaking mind and slips into a horrific depression.

    Then there is Lena’s story, which may not be as obvious as a gay soccer player but is still pretty darn gay. She spends the summer with her grandparents in Greece frantically trying to avoid the boy they want to set her up with. She constantly hides her body under the absolute dykiest clothing she can find and bounces the second she gets a distress call from Bridget.

    The other girls, Carmen and Tibby are gloriously queer too. Tibby was practically born in a Birkenstock sandal and Carmen is so plagued by comphet that she thinks crushing on her stepbrother is a viable option.

    We know one thing for sure, The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants Should’ve Been Gay.

    Follow us on the platform formerly known as Twitter: (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay questions at the end of every episode. You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and Instagram (@lezhangoutpod). Find us individually on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok at Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida).

    Join Ellie and Leigh in Costa Rica May 1-6, 2024, for the relaxing queer vacay you deserve. For more information and to be among the first to book a spot (and snatch up that Early Bird Discount!), visit bit.ly/lezdocostarica.

    You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of perks like access to our exclusive Discord, monthly full length bonus episodes, weekly ad free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezshop (a great place to find gifts for all your queer friends) and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp!

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    707: Cheat Codes Nov 06, 2023
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    Welcome back to Lez Hang Out, the podcast that is entering its Beyoncé Lemonade era.

    This week Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out to discuss cheating, a topic that has been at the helm of many a queer discussion since the news broke about soccer star Ashlyn Harris dating Sophia Bush. While we are always thrilled to welcome a new member to team alphabet mafia, we do wish it could have happened in a less messy way. Instead, it seems to have come at the expense of two marriages, that of Sophia to her ex-husband and of Ashlyn to ex-wife Ali Krieger.

    Cheating is a complicated subject, especially in today’s era of ethical non-monogamy and breaking down outdated societally imposed barriers on relationships. Even when discussing the apparent overlap of Ashlyn and Sophia’s relationship with that of their respective ex-spouses, Ashlyn tends to get a lot more flack for cheating than Sophia does. We believe this is largely due to queer people being conditioned to view cheating differently when it is intricately attached to a person’s coming out journey.

    Another reason cheating is complicated is that everyone seems to have a different definition of what constitutes cheating. For some, simply watching porn or finding someone else attractive can be seen as cheating while for others the line is drawn at physically getting with another person. Ultimately, cheating comes down to breaking your partner’s trust and typically involves some degree of lying or hiding the truth. We talk about why people cheat, whether we think emotional or physical cheating is worse, and when it may be possible to forgive a cheater.

    Follow us on Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay questions at the end of every episode. You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and follow on Instagram (@lezhangoutpod). Find us individually on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok at Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida).

    We are planning another gaycation with Trova Trip! Join Ellie, Leigh and a gaggle of gays in Costa Rica May 1-6, 2024, for a relaxing vacay in the heart of the gorgeous Rincón de la Vieja National Park. For more information and to be among the first to book a spot (and snatch up that Early Bird Discount!), visit bit.ly/lezdocostarica.

    You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of awesome perks like access to our exclusive Discord, monthly full length bonus episodes, weekly ad free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezshop and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp!

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


    SBG 114: Twilight with K-Ming Chang Oct 30, 2023
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    Greetings to all creatures of the night, sparkly sentient marble statues, and supernatural dogs. If Twilight is your Roman Empire, you’re in the right place.

    The gay gods give their most challenging tasks to their strongest sapphics. Do you know how hard it is for a gaggle of lesbians to analyze Twilight for an hour and a half and not talk about K-Stew? We are fully committed to continuing to stand in solidarity with the ongoing SAG-AFTRA strike and for this reason we will be chatting about the books alone and leaving the movies for another time, loca.

    This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with K-Ming Chang (@kmingchang), vampire ethnographer and author of Bestiary, Gods of Want and recently released fantasy novel Organ Meats, to talk about why the Twilight book series Should’ve Been Gay. We dive into everything from the inherent queerness of forbidden romance to Alice’s futch haircut and Bella’s love affair with her rusty red truck. Whether you stand with Team Edward, Team Jacob(ina), Team Alice, or choose to go the enemies to lovers route with Rosalie, we have you covered.

    If you’re like Leigh and somehow managed to avoid everything Twilight, here is a super speedy breakdown of what you need to know. The story revolves around Bella, a flannel-wearing, car-obsessed queer teenager who moves to the Pacific Northwest and immediately falls for Edward, a guy who is basically like if one of those marble statues in Florence could talk. We do not talk enough about the “I’m not like other girls” to “Oh, I’m a lesbian” pipeline, but Bella fits right into this category. She is portrayed as quirky, not caring about makeup or clothes, getting along best with boys over girls, and being a complete enigma to Edward (who can read everyone else’s thoughts but hers). Bella’s best friend is Jacob(ina). Back in the day girls everywhere were freaking out and fighting with their besties over who was the better pick for Bella between cold, mysterious vampire Edward and playful, warmblooded wolfboy Jacob. But listener, there were other options all along!

    Edward belongs to a chosen family called the Cullens and his ‘sister’ Alice loves Bella instantly due to seeing her in a vision. She then takes it upon herself to watch over Bella, keeping her safe and dressing her up like her own personal Barbie doll. She even plans Bella’s birthday party and wedding! In an alternate universe, this would surely play out like a romcom where Alice finally confesses her feelings on the day of the wedding and Bella realizes that she was actually in love with Alice the entire time.

    While Alice has an immediate bond with Bella, Edward’s other ‘sister’ Rosalie, does not. In fact, Rosalie goes out of her way to be as cold as possible to Bella for quite a long time, resentful and jealous of her ability to potentially have a normal life and a family of her own. But if we approach this through a queer lens, it can very easily turn into an enemies to lovers relationship, with Rosalie warming up to Bella little by little.

    We know one thing for sure, Twilight Should’ve Been Gay.

    Don’t forget to check out K-Ming’s brand new novel Organ Meats available now: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/712583/organ-meats-by-k-ming-chang/

    Follow us on the platform formerly known as Twitter: (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay questions at the end of every episode. You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and Instagram (@lezhangoutpod). Find us individually on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok at Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida).

    We are planning another #TrovaTrip gaycation! Join Ellie and Leigh in Costa Rica May 1-6, 2024, for the relaxing queer vacay you deserve. For more information and to be among the first to book a spot (and snatch up that Early Bird Discount!), visit bit.ly/lezdocostarica.

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    706: Love Lines with LP Oct 23, 2023
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    Welcome back to Lez Hang Out, the podcast that isn’t broken, it’s golden.

    This week Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with multi-platinum singer-songwriter, LP (@iamlpofficial), to discuss their brand new album Love Lines and highly anticipated North American Tour. For those who have not yet had a chance to listen to LP’s 7th studio album, Leigh describes the songs as shiny and having a ‘brightness’ to them. This tracks with LP’s own statement of the album feeling like a kind of rebirth, working with a new team to create introspective songs that get really honest about LP’s life experiences. There is an ease to the sound reminiscent of mellow days spent kicking back in a nice California hotel and taking stock of your life.

    We talk with LP about their songwriting process (a process that is wildly fast- in the time it took you to read this sentence, LP has probably written another song). We also discuss what it is like to be a musician while being visibly “the biggest dyke alive”. We chat about the challenges (and pros) of tour bus life, the horrors of being in a public relationship and going through a breakup, the unfortunate ageism plaguing the music industry (yet somehow doing absolutely nothing to hinder the careers of old white male musicians), and how LP managed to beat Warner Brothers at their own game by bringing their songs over to an indie label and becoming more successful than ever.

    Check out LP’s Love Lines wherever you like to listen to music and watch them perform all your favorite songs live on tour: https://www.iamlp.com/tour.

    Follow us on Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay questions at the end of every episode. You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and follow on Instagram (@lezhangoutpod). Find us individually on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok at Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida).

    We are planning another gaycation with Trova Trip! Join Ellie and Leigh in Costa Rica May 1-6, 2024, for the relaxing queer vacay of your dreams. For more information and to be among the first to book a spot (and snatch up that Early Bird Discount!), visit bit.ly/lezdocostarica.

    You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of awesome perks like access to our exclusive Discord, monthly full length bonus episodes, weekly ad free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezshop and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp!

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


    705: The Gay Card with Matison Card Oct 16, 2023
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    How many punches do you have on your gay card?

    This week Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with Matison Card (@matisoncard), a lesbian singer-songwriter, actor, and reality tv contestant on Coming Out For Love, the first US lesbian dating show. Although the show just became available for streaming this summer, it was actually recorded 2 years ago. So what has fan favorite Matison been up to since then?

    We dive into what Matison has been doing since filming wrapped (spoiler alert: there’s a UHaul and karaoke involved!). We also talk about what it was really like behind the scenes of a queer reality dating show, what Matison learned about relationships from the experience, and where dating shows go wrong when it comes to casting and creating potential matches. It turns out you cannot just throw a bunch of sapphics in a room and expect them to bang, even if they are all astrology gays. We explore the best friends to lovers pipeline, the lesser talked about lesbian relationship benefits (being the same shoe size as your partner is severely underrated), and the bizarreness of trying to match whole adults with people whose frontal lobes have not even fully developed yet.

    For those of you who have not yet seen Nicole Conn’s Coming Out For Love, you can check out the whole first season and get into all the juicy gay drama here.

    Don’t forget to follow us on the platform formerly known as Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay questions at the end of every episode. You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and follow on Instagram (@lezhangoutpod). Find us individually on Instagram, X, and TikTok at Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida).

    We are planning another gaycation with Trova Trip! Join Ellie and Leigh in Costa Rica May 1-6, 2024, for the relaxing queer vacay of your dreams. For more information and to be among the first to book a spot (and snatch up that Early Bird Discount!), visit bit.ly/lezdocostarica.

    You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of awesome perks like access to our exclusive Discord, monthly full length bonus episodes (including our brand new episode about Blue Is The Warmest Color), weekly ad free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezshop and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp!

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


    SBG 113: Spring Breakers Oct 10, 2023
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    If you’ve always wanted to watch the poly lesbian cinematic lovechild of 8 Mile and Thelma and Louise, have we got a movie for you.

    This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out to discuss why 2012 deep cut, Spring Breakers, Should’ve Been Gay. If you haven’t seen A24’s artsy crime thriller, just imagine MTV’s Spring Break and Girls Gone Wild on acid and then add Vanessa Hudgens, Selena Gomez, Ashley Benson, and the most hideous version of James Franco you can picture. Then layer a much younger Selena’s wide-eyed innocent voice talking to her grandma about having a spiritual awakening in St. Pete’s and wanting to start a lesbian commune with her besties over a montage of slow motion boobs and butts.

    The plot for this movie is thin at best. Four besties in college want to escape their super lame town and decide it is absolutely critical that they go for the full Girls Gone Wild Spring Break. But oh no, they haven’t got any money! Don’t worry, they’ll just hold up a diner with water guns full of vodka to get the money. Somehow that works with zero repercussions and is honestly the smallest crime the girls will get involved with throughout the movie. When they get to St. Pete’s, it’s just babes and boobs and butts everywhere. They’re all constantly touching one another and never wear more than a bikini again for the rest of the movie. You may think you have experienced the male gaze before, but this movie is truly on another level.

    Things take a turn when the girls end up getting arrested at a party and are sprung by Alien, ie. creepy James Franco. Selena Gomez’s character, Faith, is immediately not on board and full on bounces from the trip. She signed up for a Spring Break full of lesbianism, not entertaining some dude. Vanessa and Ashley’s characters Candy and Brit have absolutely no qualms about using this pathetic man for access to guns, drugs, and cash. They are so clearly dating (even during the threesome with Alien they only have eyes for each other) that they could literally be a lez-ssential couple if the movie itself was not so chaotic and so, so uncomfortably male gazey. We really wanted this to go full Thelma and Louise at the end, and to be fair it sort of does. Brit and Candy egg Alien into taking on his rival and get him killed in the process, leaving them free to take all of his stuff and drive off in his fancy car (after gunning down like at least 50 men while clad in nothing but bikinis and somehow not getting shot themselves).

    We know one thing for sure, Spring Breakers Should’ve Been Gay.

    Follow us on the platform formerly known as Twitter: (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay questions at the end of every episode. You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and Instagram (@lezhangoutpod). Find us individually on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok at Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida).

    We are planning another #TrovaTrip gaycation! Join Ellie and Leigh in Costa Rica May 1-6, 2024, for the relaxing queer vacay you deserve. For more information and to be among the first to book a spot (and snatch up that Early Bird Discount!), visit bit.ly/lezdocostarica.

    You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of perks like access to our exclusive Discord, monthly full length bonus episodes, weekly ad free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezshop and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp!

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


    704: Lez-ssentials I Can’t Think Straight Oct 04, 2023
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    Welcome back to the podcast that, “has never for once in our lives been able to think straight”. This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) talk about the 2008 romantic drama I Can’t Think Straight, based on the novel by the same name, for this Lez-ssentials episode, a recurring segment on the essential movies and TV shows in the lesbian canon.

    Although this film was released in 2008, it remains one of the few lesbian movies with diverse QPOC representation. The story centers around the relationship between Tala, a Christian Palestinian woman from Jordan, and Leyla, a British Indian Muslim woman living in London. Tala is in the midst of her fourth engagement to some irrelevant man and working in London when she meets Leyla and loses all ability to think straight. In true lesbian fashion, their eyes meet once at Tala’s engagement party and the rest is history.

    These two women have incredible chemistry together and it is impossible not to root for them from that very first glance. Tala is bold in her pursuit of baby gay Leyla, inviting her on a weekend getaway for just the two of them and slyly booking a room with only one bed. After sleeping together literally once, Leyla’s whole world tilts on its axis and she comes out to her extremely homophobic mother. Tala, however, chooses to remain closeted, causing Leyla to break up with her. But don’t worry. After all, this would not be a Lez-ssential if the story ended there. After the breakup, Leyla gets a new girlfriend (but really we all know how rebounds go) and achieves her dream of becoming a published author. Meanwhile, Tala breaks off her engagement (again), comes out to her parents (who really should have known after that many failed engagements to forgettable men), and in classic rom com style, writes Leyla a poem. She then attends Leyla’s book signing and our lesbians finally get the happy ending they deserve.

    At the end of the episode, stick around to hear our original song based on I Can’t Think Straight, “Waves”, written by Leigh Holmes Foster and produced by Ellie Brigida. Join us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon for instant access to mp3 downloads of all our original songs or find us on Bandcamp to purchase songs individually.

    We are planning another #TrovaTrip gaycation! Join Ellie and Leigh in Costa Rica May 1-6, 2024, for the relaxing queer vacay you deserve. For more information and to be among the first to book a spot (and snatch up that Early Bird Discount!), visit bit.ly/lezdocostarica.

    Follow along on Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay at the end of every episode. Leigh Holmes Foster (@lshfoster) and Ellie Brigida (@elliebrigida). You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and follow along on Instagram (@lezhangoutpod).

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    SBG 112: Good Ol' Toys with Connor Clary Sep 25, 2023
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    From Cock Ring Ken and his buddy™️ Allan to the fabulous rainbow manes of the genderless Troll dolls, queerness is woven throughout the shiny plastics of all our most iconic childhood toys.

    This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out with TikTok and Instagram influencer Connor Clary (@connor.clary) to chat about all of the gayest toys from our childhoods. Whether you were aware of your queerness as a child or not, it’s likely that you interacted with your toys in ways that would have literally everyone highkey questioning your sexuality nowadays. And regardless of what your orientation is now, if you owned Barbies, you were absolutely scissoring them together any chance you got. Honestly that’s on Mattel for making Barbies so damn good at scissoring! But it is not just how we played with our toys that makes them scream homosexual. It’s truly just that the toys themselves are giving gay.

    Barbie was queer from the jump, arriving on the toy scene with one agenda in mind, to shake up the status quo for little girls. From their lack of genitals to their impressive scissoring skills, it’s a real wonder that anyone ever thought they were straight! Then of course there is Barbie’s beloved beard, Ken. There have been a lot of iterations of Ken, but there are perhaps none more gay than Earring Magic Ken and Sugar Daddy Ken. In fact, Earring Magic Ken (lovingly known as Cock Ring Ken by gay men everywhere) was so visibly queer that Dan Savage published an article about him titled Ken Comes Out, sending Mattel into a panic and causing them to discontinue the doll.

    Beyond Barbie, several other childhood favorites made our gayest toy lists including Bop It! (literally a handjob training machine), The Game of Life (you can put two little pink figures into the front of the car, no one is going to stop you), the Furby (essentially what the Babadook would keep as a pet), and Troll dolls (genderless slightly unsettling very naked rainbow creatures). We also bust out some deep cuts, looking into the inherent queerness of Pogs and Slap Bracelets (if you remember these, go take an Advil for your back).

    We know one thing for sure, our childhood toysShould’ve Been Gay.

    Follow us on the platform formerly known as Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay questions at the end of every episode. You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and Instagram (@lezhangoutpod). Find us individually on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok at Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida).

    We are planning another Trova Trip gaycation! Join Ellie, Leigh, and Mermaid Kristin Sparkle in Costa Rica in May 2024 for the queer vacay of a lifetime. For more information and to be among the first to book a spot (and snatch up that early bird discount!), fill out the quick survey at bit.ly/leztrip.

    You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of perks like access to our exclusive Discord, monthly full length bonus episodes (including our latest episode on The Miseducation of Cameron Post), weekly ad free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezshop and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp!

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


    SBG 111: t.A.T.u. Sep 18, 2023
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    PSA: LHO will be taking a bit of a different direction with our SBGs this season in support of the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes. While this means you will be hearing a bit less about movies and TV shows for a while, don’t fret, because we can make anything gay.

    —---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Gays of a certain age, prepare yourselves for a wave of very chaotic nostalgia.

    This week, Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) hang out to chat about the early 2000s Russian music duo, t.A.T.u. This band rose to fame by making their entire identity revolve around their supposed lesbianism. The ‘All The Things She Said’ music video still lives rent free in the minds of so many queer people, including one Leigh Holmes Foster. It was groundbreaking at the time, debuting in 2002 and featuring the singers wearing schoolgirl outfits while making out with one another in the rain. With very little other queer content available (this was pre-Youtube days!), the music video was not initially considered exploitative but instead was a drop of fresh water in the desert of dehydrated baby gays.

    For those who are less familiar with the iconic but problematic Europop stars, t.A.T.u. consisted of two teenage girls, Lena Katina and Julia Volkova. It was created by the creepiest creeper to ever creep, Ivan Shapovalov. He had already decided on the lesbian angle for the band before even auditioning girls for it. The band name itself is an acronym meaning ‘this girl loves that girl’. When Ivan books Lena and Julia, they are just 14 years old. With them being so young, it is easy to see how their producer managed to exploit them into participating in his gay for pay scheme. Something like this would never work nowadays, because we have so many actually out and proud lesbian singers and bands. But back then, it was pretty much just Melissa Etheridge. So when ‘All The Things She Said’ came onto the scene, the sapphics were overjoyed to belt out the angsty teen lesbian lyrics while staring in awe at two girls kissing on TV.

    Everything was great and gay for about a year until in 2003 a documentary was released called The Anatomy of t.A.T.u. In this documentary, the girls admit to not actually being gay! This revelation sent queer people spiraling. t.A.T.u. was pretty much the only representation teen lesbians had at the time, and they were not even real! We’ve seen some intense queerbaiting before but nothing even comes close to this.

    We know one thing for sure, literally anyone involved with t.A.T.u.Should’ve Been Gay.

    Follow us on the platform formerly known as Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay questions at the end of every episode. You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and Instagram (@lezhangoutpod). Find us individually on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok at Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida).

    If you did not get in on our Croatian gaycation, we apologize in advance for the fomo you are about to experience. But don’t be sad, because we have another opportunity to travel with Ellie and Leigh (and Mermaid Kristin Sparkle) coming in May 2024! If you want to be among the first to know more about our next Trova Trip vagaycation, fill out the short survey at bit.ly/leztrip. This also helps us to plan even more exciting future trips!

    You can support Lez Hang Out while unlocking a bunch of perks like access to our exclusive Discord, monthly full length bonus episodes, weekly ad free episodes, and more by joining us on Patreon at bit.ly/lezpatreon. You can also support the podcast by buying our original merch at bit.ly/lezshop and purchasing our original Lez-ssentials songs for as little as $1 each on Bandcamp!

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


    703: Vixen Match with Ivy Les Vixens Sep 11, 2023
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    Come for the thirst traps, stay for the (f)em(me)powerment.

    This week Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida) sit down with Ivy (@eveleena), the founder and producer of Les Vixens Burlesque (@lesvixensburlesque) and host of Tea & Glitter: The Podcast. For those who are not in the know, the Les Vixens are the largest and longest running all-queer Burlesque troupe in the world! As if running the Les Vixens wasn’t impressive enough, Ivy also produces and directs the largest and longest-running LGBTQ+ women’s weekly lesbian event in the U.S., GIRL the Party (@girltheparty). Ivy uses her platform as an entrepreneur and performer for mental health and queer advocacy, community connection, and humanitarian efforts, all while she continues to prance and dance her heart out, leaving a trail of sequins and glitter wherever she goes.

    We chatted with Ivy about femme invisibility in the queer community, reclaiming femininity from the grubby paws of the patriarchy, performing for the female ga(y)ze, and spreading mental health awareness via therapeutic thirst traps. With an all-queer Burlesque troupe, consent and agency are prioritized in a way that just does not happen very often in straight spaces. This not only provides safety for the performers, but also gives permission to the queer women in the audience to look at the performers without fear of falling into that predatory lesbian stereotype. These performances are BY the all-queer Vixens FOR a queer audience. Sure, a cishet male can go see a show, but he should not expect to get the same treatment as the sapphics in the audience.

    Don’t forget to follow us on the platform formerly known as Twitter: Lez Hang Out (@lezhangoutpod) and answer our Q & Gay questions at the end of every episode. You can also join us on Facebook.com/lezhangoutpod and follow on Instagram (@lezhangoutpod). Find us individually on Instagram, X, and TikTok at Leigh (@lshfoster) and Ellie (@elliebrigida).

    We are so pumped for our upcoming vagaytion in Croatia where we will get to hang out in person with 15 of you! If you did not get in on this trip, we apologize in advance for the intense fomo you are about to experience. But, don’t fomo too hard, because we have another opportunity to travel with Ellie and Leigh (and Mermaid Kristin Sparkle!) coming in 2024. If you want to be among the first to know more about our next Trova Trip vagaycation, fill out the quick survey at bit.ly/leztrip. This also helps us to plan even more exciting future trips!

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