Leaving Hillsong

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Carl Lentz and the Trouble at Vanity Fair Part 3 Jun 11, 2023

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Why did the Vanity Fair documentary nosedive into a promo piece for a perp with multiple complaints about his leadership, his behaviour, his financial misappropriation, sexual exploitation, labour exploitation, coercive control and on and on including spiritual abuse?

We may never find out, although I suspect we will... but today we conclude the Carl Lentz VF exploration with Tanya's first hand account of working with the producers... and being deceived... and feeling scammed.

Shaun Nemorin, M.S.W. , U.N.H.C.R staff, and former Leaving Hillsong podcast guest - An Economy of Souls- had wanted to interview Tanya...and this is the conversation they had, ...

what has the hunt for truth cost Tanya?
what has the recent foray with Vanity Fair been like? up close with the bright lights?
how does connection make us feel less alone?
how to deal with issues of trust and being taken for a ride?
what does 'the institution', as Shaun calls it, need to do to affect change?
will Vanity Fair get away with it? !

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Carl Lentz and the Trouble at Vanity Fair part 2 Jun 05, 2023

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What did BCH ask Tanya Levin after more than 23 years of no contact when they caught up at court?

Why did Tanya get arrested while Justin Bieber was at conference?

We continue Luc Hilton's interview with Leaving Hillsong host, Tanya Levin in part 2 of this very special episode ...

don't miss it!!

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Carl Lentz and the Trouble at Vanity Fair Part 1 Jun 04, 2023

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Vanity Fair's recent 'documentary' The Secrets Of Hillsong had a really big secret it kept from most of the participants - they were being interviewed without knowing that the source of so many complaints of abuse, celeb loving pastor from New York, Carl Lentz was actually using this for a comeback. Or using Vanity Fair or from most ways you look at this, the positive light shines bright like a diamond in a pastor's Rolex.

And we got scammed. Bad. Just lied to... and here we are.

So, i decided, since Vanity Fair used my expertise for their movie then erased my book and this pod... pushing all that aside to make room for Carl and Laura ....

Luc Hilton did this interview with me, Tanya Levin on 23 Jan 2023 who knew how useful it would be?

If they refuse to tell the right story and there SO MUCH wrong with this show... then I'll tell you about me!!

Come Chat!

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A Visit from the Ancients - Bobbie's Massage May 28, 2023

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Bobbie Houston, the former Biggest Shot at Hillsong, has been preaching up a storm at her frenemy's church, Wendy Treat over in Seattle, blissfully ignorant of the reality of her husband's bad behaviour and inability to shave.

Or is she? Join me, Tanya and James, our resident Mental Health consultant as we look over the myriad of drivel and confessions that pour out of the heart/mouth of Roberta Lee Houston nee McDonald.

Is she a witch? Is she mentally ill? Is she lying? All 3? You decide tonight as we hear all about Bobbie's God moments and A visit from the ancients!

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A Strong, Buff Jesus - Part 2 May 21, 2023

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Carl Lentz was an unusual pastor to his New York City sheep and they loved every moment of him.

Until they didn't.

Long before Lentz's famous fall, Nate, a native New Yorker was on the production team at Carl's NY franchise, and he joins us again with his fiance, Gail, a Canadian, who also comes from a background of evangelicalism.

We chat about Carl, and Josh, and Darnell, and what it's like to SERVE under the KING ... we also have a fun time talking about what's the point of Brian Houston? and the hooks that these snake oil shepherds use to keep their sheep in line.. the guilt, and so often.. the feeling of responsibility for others in a church where there are predators and threats.

So come visit New York with us, me, Tanya, and Gail, and Nate and let's chat! Oh and check out Full Mutuality, the podcast by the pod guests!

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A Strong, Buff Jesus Pt 1 May 14, 2023

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Gail is from Canada. Nate is from New York. Both are from an evangelical background and wound up engaged.

Nate and Gail from the Full Mutuality Podcast talk American fundamentalism and Hillsong NYC and the highs and lows it offered.

In Part 1 we meet them and find out how Nate went from being taught he was 'worse than Judas' to being up close and personal with some of New York's finest... Christians.

Come chat!

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Chocolate Cake - the Soul Survivor Fiasco May 07, 2023

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Drapps, our UK correspondent, joins us to talk Mike Pilavachi and Soul Survivor and the recent #SCANDAL to hit the UK.

We talk about what happens when young men feel uncomfortable and how an entire movement. based on celibacy turned out not to be so.

What to do next? well, come chat and let's find out!

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By the Door of the Ear part 3 Apr 30, 2023

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Scott and his wife Kat join us for part 3 of our deep dive into the MUSIC of Hillsong... how it's created and how it's weaponized for crowds... and then, something happened... as we were talking about growing up in Hillsong, Scott spoke of abuse at Youth Group, physical, psychological, and sexual.

This is an intense episode with a passion expressed that is as raw as any church service.

What is criminal and what is....religious freedom?

Don't miss this episode... And if you're a parent who goes to church... this one's for you!

Come chat!

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By the Door of the Ear Part 2 Apr 25, 2023

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The Hillsong liturgy? TONIGHT we take apart the magic of Hillsong music and its worldwide influence.. how does it work?

And who gets to be a STAR?

Find out who gets chosen to play the role of musician in the Greatest Megachurch Show on Earth!

Scott and Kat both had roles on stage and they guide us through the highly scripted and highly influential music machine that is Hillsong music in part 2.. come chat!!

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By the Door of the Ear pt 1 Apr 23, 2023

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"I know the people who wrote those songs!", says Scott's friend in the 7th grade.

"Really! thinks Scott, then I'm going to that Hillsong Church...."

For 15 years Scott sang Hillsong songs on stage and learned all there is about music... well, Hillsong music. In the mean time, Kat was growing up on the North Coast of NSW and going Uniting, until she took a gap year for college... and before she was classically trained at the Conservatorium.

Together they made all kinds of music (groan, yes) and now married for 7 years, baby makes 3.

But they're no longer in Hillsong after all the promises and dreams were laid out.

So what happened? and what IS backstage like?

Come talk with Scott and Kat ... :)))))

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