Leaving Hillsong

Latest Episodes:

A World of Trouble Part 1 Aug 29, 2022

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Where does the money at Hillsong go?

The oldest question in the book, Natalie Moses, a former employee, currently stood down with pay, has filed a complaint in the Federal Court that she saw a lot of where it went and it was corrupt, unethical, illegal and fraudulent.

On this episode, we speak with solicitor, former AoG/ACC executive officer, and PhD candidate in this field Alex Spencer about what this complaint means for Ms. Moses and for Hillsong's future.

You won't want to miss this one!

Part 2 will be Barry Bowen from Trinity Foundation taking it from a global level because Hillsong may well be in a world of trouble.

Come be part of this chat and bring your notebook cos wow!

Producer: Kimberly Robinson

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A World of Trouble Part 2 Aug 28, 2022

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Barry Bowen from the Trinity Foundation in Texas (trinity.fi.org) joins me today as a TV evangelist investigator and researcher, reporter and journalist to discuss Natalie Moses's case from a US point of view.

Ms Moses's allegations include shuffling money on off to the US and Barry talks us through some of the the ramifications of what this means.

Then we have a little chat about What Would Carl Lentz Do next?

It's super great. Enjoy and just leave Hillsong as soon as you can if you haven't already. Please?

Come chat. This is just incredible!

Producer: Kimberly Robinson

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The Power to Say No Part 2 Aug 22, 2022

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So Brian H formerly of Hillsong won and Ernie award held at Parliament House and Meg who nominated him and collected his misogyny prize continues the story of the night in question and what it's like when women use the power to say NO to things that men like Brian say.

It's chat time!

Producer: Kimberly Robinson

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The Power to Say No Aug 21, 2022

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Last Thursday a friend in Melbourne contacted me to tell me she had succeeded in nominating Brian Houston of Hillsong for an Ernie award for misogyny and that he'd won!

I immediately asked if she would share her experiences and she did!

This episode is an update on the court matters that Hillsong is surrounded by and drowning in, including the matter of Pastor John McMartin, chief concealer of Frank Houston, and charged with indecent assault against a young woman.

And then, Meg tells her story. It's a harrowing tale of child sexual abuse and people who looked the other way, deliberately.

So this is another hard story, from so many perspectives of what abuse is and does and means in church.

Meg is like no one you ever met before and I ask her, WHERE WAS JESUS, when you were being abused by Grandad?

Her answers will change you. She's just so unique.

So, if you can, join us. Or share this episode. It's so special. part 2 to follow xo

Producer:Kimberly Robinson

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In the Face of Something Awful Aug 14, 2022

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What does anyone do when they hear about or experience child sexual assault or any crime coming out of a church?

How do we stop the cover ups and ignorance?

Join Nick Jordan and me as we discuss the work he does chasing down offenders to bring about justice in the form of compensation and acknowledgement.

It's a tough but urgent chat, and it's mandatory for all LH listeners. As well as anyone else who needs to know. Which is all of us.

Come chat. This is the stuff that we need to know to change this world and this culture.

You'll never think the same or feel helpless in the face of this awful something.

Talk then!

Producer : Kimberly Robinson

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There’s Always Been a Lot to Say part 2 Jul 31, 2022

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Grace and I continue our conversation about Hillsong's implosion and loss of revenue and members.

We discuss conferences and events and the addictive and fun nature of being involved and feeling special...

And then I force Grace's hand about her current or not attendance at Hillsong and where does she come from?

So stick around til the end and enjoy our dissection of a young person's experience at Hillsong... and how she left.

COME CHAT!!

Producer: Kimberly Robinson

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There’s Always Been a Lot to Say Jul 24, 2022

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GRACE IS BACK! and she's telling it like it is.

We sat down to kick off recording Grace's own history with Hillsong and thought we'd go over some updates. She'd had a few chats with some insiders and has taken the liberty of sharing news with us all.

We discuss the recent Hillsong conference, or what's left of it, and Hillsong College or what's left of it, and it's going to take until the end of episode 2 before I get Grace to tell us exactly nearly her Hillsong background.

So pull up a chair, or come hang over the back fence and let's talk!

Producer : Kimberly Robinson

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A Journey they Take for Themselves Jul 17, 2022

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Counselling: should Christians seek counsel with unbelievers? Can Christian counsellors be professional?

Why not just keep it in house? In church?

Today we meet Petra a long time mental health social worker to find out how these two worlds meet and why it’s so important that they do

Come chat with us !

Producer: Kimberly Robinson

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A Glibness and Superficiality CASE NOTES EP 1 Jul 03, 2022

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WELCOME TO CASE NOTES - LEAVING HILLSONG'S NEW SEGMENT ON MENTAL HEALTH.

TODAY we meet James, a mental health practitioner from Victoria, Australia who joins me to discuss the myriad he of mental health possibilities that are expressed in the posts and personalities and behaviours of former Hillsong leaders, Brian and Bobbie Houston.

While THIS IS NOT MEDICAL ADVICE OR A PSYCHOLOGICAL DIAGNOSIS, it's definitely TIME TO LOOK AT THIS from a practical and a medical POV.

So, pull up a chair and listen in to the first dive into mental health and Hillsong... !!!

Producer : Kimberly Robinson

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An Insignificant Gay Kid Part 2 (language free) Jun 28, 2022

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Sarah continues her deconstruction story and wow there's a lot here... We discuss issues that women face in leaving churches, especially if they're gay women.

Describing herself as both a 'wee sensitive soul' and a 'diehard atheist' we managed to get through issues including

- rape in marriage

- custody battles

- lesbian parenting

-neurodiversity

- purity culture

-prophecies and facades

- consent

- going NO CONTACT

and can ExVangelicals trust therapy?

It was a doozy so don't miss it!

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