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Leaders Coaching Leaders

For current and aspiring education leaders, this podcast covers evidence-based approaches for tackling immediate needs to impact student learning. Every week Peter DeWitt and our guests get together to share ideas, put research into practice, discuss what’s working and what’s not in equity, SEL, burnout, learning recovery, and much more to help you ensure every student is learning not by chance, but by design.

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Latest Episodes:

BONUS! Unlocking Leadership: Insights on Learning and Leading with Intention with Peter DeWitt & Michael Nelson Jan 27, 2025

The bonus podcast of the Leaders Coaching Leaders Podcast features a compilation of insightful excerpts from previous interviews with educational leaders John Hattie, Viviane Robinson, and Marc Brackett. John Hattie emphasizes the importance of educators developing a theory of learning that aligns with their teaching methods, highlighting the need for teachers to focus on learning strategies. Viviane Robinson discusses the concept of leadership as an influence process accessible to everyone, stressing the importance of teachers exercising leadership in their roles. Marc Brackett offers insights and advocates for using emotions wisely to achieve goals and improve relationships. The hosts, Peter DeWitt and Michael Nelson, reflect on these themes, sharing personal anecdotes and emphasizing the practical application of these insights in professional learning and workshops. The compilation underscores the value of continuous learning, leadership, and emotional intelligence, and, of course, leading with intention in education.

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Emotional Intelligence in Leadership and Education With Marc Brackett Nov 18, 2024

In a fascinating interview on the Leaders Coaching Leaders Podcast, Marc Brackett, the founding director of the Yale Center for Emotional Intelligence and author of the bestselling book Permission to Feel, delves into the profound importance of emotional intelligence and self-regulation in both personal and professional realms. In this conversation with co-hosts Peter DeWitt and Michael Nelson, Brackett emphasizes the necessity of understanding and managing emotions to achieve goals and maintain well-being and discusses the challenges posed by political polarization and the misconceptions surrounding social-emotional learning, advocating for clear definitions and practical applications. Brackett’s insights are particularly relevant for leaders, highlighting the critical role of emotional intelligence in creating a positive school culture and climate. He shares compelling research findings, including the significant impact of emotionally intelligent leadership on teacher satisfaction and retention. Through engaging anecdotes and evidence-based strategies, Brackett provides actionable advice for educators and leaders to foster emotional intelligence, enhance communication, and build supportive environments. This interview is a must-listen for professionals seeking to understand the transformative power of emotions in education and leadership.

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How Technology is Transforming Students' Brains With David Sousa Nov 11, 2024

In this compelling interview on the Leaders Coaching Leaders Podcast, David Sousa, a respected educational neuroscience consultant and author, delves into the profound impact of technology on the developing brain. Sousa, known for his groundbreaking work on brain plasticity and the rewired brain, highlights the alarming increase in technology use among preteens and teenagers over the past decade. He underscores the critical role of nurture in shaping the brain, challenging the theory that genetics predominantly determine brain development. Sousa articulates concerns about how excessive screen time affects memory, thinking skills, attention, and social skills, emphasizing that the brain’s plasticity makes it highly susceptible to environmental influences. He discusses the importance of educators and parents understanding these changes to better support children’s cognitive and social development. Sousa also addresses the potential dangers of artificial intelligence, stressing the need for discernment between real and fake information, especially for the young. His insights are a call to action for educators and administrators to balance technology use with activities that promote higher-order thinking and interpersonal skills. The interview is a thought-provoking exploration of how modern technology is reshaping the educational landscape and the urgent need for informed strategies to mitigate its negative effects while harnessing its benefits.

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Radically Excellent Leadership in Action With Kate Anderson Foley Nov 04, 2024

Join hosts Peter DeWitt and Michael Nelson on the Leaders Coaching Leaders Podcast as they engage in a thought-provoking discussion with Dr. Kate Anderson Foley about her latest book, Radically Excellent School Improvement. In this episode, Dr. Foley draws from her extensive background in educational leadership to highlight the critical importance of strategic planning and maintaining a student-centered focus in decision-making. She emphasizes the interconnected nature of school departments and advocates for a strength-based approach to support all students effectively. The conversation delves into current challenges such as teacher shortages, the crucial role of professional development, dual certification for teachers, and the significant impact of coaching for both educators and principals. Dr. Foley also sheds new light on the role of the business office in supporting educational objectives and the importance of equity audits. This episode offers valuable insights for professionals dedicated to advancing educational excellence.

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What Does Punk Philosophy Have to Do With Authentic School Leadership? With Keziah Featherstone Oct 28, 2024

In this interview, Keziah Featherstone, an executive head teacher in the West Midlands of England, discusses her leadership philosophy and experiences. She emphasizes the importance of authentic leadership, challenging the homogenized model of leadership that often excludes women and people of color. Featherstone advocates for “punk leadership,” which encourages leaders to stay true to their values and be adaptable. She highlights the significance of relationships and impact over rigid adherence to traditional leadership models. Featherstone also touches on the challenges of recruitment and retention in education, stressing the need for leaders to find joy and fulfillment in their roles. She shares insights on creating inclusive environments and the importance of being intentional in supporting diverse leadership. The conversation also explores the role of men in championing women in leadership and the universal challenges faced by educators worldwide.
Check out her book, Punk Leadership: Leading Schools Differently at Corwin.com.

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Leading High-Poverty Schools: Strategies for Collaboration and Community Engagement With Washingto Collado Oct 21, 2024

In this episode of Leaders Coaching Leaders, Principal of the Year honoree Washington Collado shares his personal and professional leadership journey. He underscores the significance of leading with intention and creating a safe environment for open communication among students, staff, and families, discussing how to achieve the respect and trust that are foundational to effective leadership. Reflecting on his upbringing in the Dominican Republic and the loss of his mother at a young age, Collado shares how these experiences shaped his commitment to education and advocacy for underrepresented groups. He highlights the importance of integrating diverse histories into curricula, explaining how this is essential for equity in education. Additionally, he previews his upcoming book, The Four Pillars to Guide Visionary Educators, which focuses on strategies for supporting students in high-poverty schools through collaborative leadership and community engagement. Collado's insights underscore the transformative power of education and the necessity of intentional leadership in fostering inclusive learning environments.

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Navigating Politics for School Leaders With Michael Hinojosa Oct 14, 2024

Peter DeWitt and Michael Nelson interview Michael Hinojosa, a seasoned superintendent with 27 years of experience in large school districts. Hinojosa shares his insights on maintaining a long-term superintendency, emphasizing the importance of building relationships with the school board, staff, and community to navigate the often complex politics of school districts and the larger education community. He discusses his personal journey from to educational leadership, highlighting resilience and the impact of public education. Hinojosa also introduces his upcoming book, Superintendent-Wise: Critical Lessons for Leading Your District, which offers strategies and stories for effective district leadership. The conversation underscores the significance of intentional leadership and navigating political challenges in education.

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Student-Centered Leadership with Viviane Robinson Oct 07, 2024

In this episode of the Leaders Coaching Leaders Podcast, Viviane Robinson delves into the theme of Leading with Intention to discuss the core purposes of educational institutions, emphasizing the importance of serving students and the student-centered impact of strong instructional leadership. Robinson–a researcher who has studied educational leadership for years and shaped ed policy around the world–highlights the challenges leaders face in balancing their roles. Her insights on leading strategically for testable results and clear measures on impact provide valuable, real-world guidance for education leaders worldwide.
Author of Virtuous Educational Leadership

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Truly Equitable Grading With Thomas Guskey Sep 30, 2024

As co-host Peter DeWitt says, a talk with Tom Guskey always feels like a master class. Legendary education leader Thomas R. “Tom” Guskey has written twenty-seven books, all widely used and acclaimed in his field. In this conversation, he discussed his newest one, Grading With Integrity. He’ll clarify pervasive mistaken assumptions about grading, what frustrates parents most, challenges teachers and school administrators face, and how to move toward toward effective, useful grading that tells schools, administrators, teachers, students, and parents alike what they need to know.

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Inclusion and Representation Through Picture Books With Loren Long Sep 23, 2024

What can a world-renowned children's book author and illustrator teach us about leadership? Loren Long is a New Tork Times bestselling picture book author and illustrator. In this episode, he reveals the creative thought process behind his emotionally resonant illustrations for Amanda Gorman’s Change Sings and how he learned from Matt de la Pena, whose book Love he illustrated, that he was already an activist whether he knew it or not. Children’s books Long has both written and illustrated include the Otis series and The Yellow Bus. In this interview with our co-hosts, unabashed fans, Long opens up about his journey, his craft, and how he sees his role in inclusion.

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Intentional Leadership With Peter DeWitt and Michael Nelson Sep 16, 2024

In this special-format episode, our co-hosts Peter DeWitt and Michael Nelson explain and set the theme for the exciting new season of the Leaders Coaching Leaders podcast with a lively discussion and interview of each other! Hear their deeply personal stories about what set them on the path to education leadership and to leading with intention. They’ll reveal their approach to their mission and their deeply felt learning mindset – and how they’ve been shaped and affected by the collaborative, mutual learning they experience every day with the many dedicated educators they feel so fortunate to work with.

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The Man Behind the Visible Learning Research With John Hattie Jun 17, 2024

Get to know the person behind the research in this thoughtful conversation with acclaimed education researcher John Hattie. Join host Peter DeWitt and cohost Mike Nelson as they chat with John Hattie about his journey as a lifelong learner, how his Visible Learning research has resonated globally, and his goal for every educator to have a theory of learning. And, learn about John Hattie's highlight of his week--the days he spends with his grandson. Tune into this season seven finale of the Leaders Coaching Leaders Podcast for insights from an award-winning expert on enhancing student learning and achievement.

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Women Leading Education With Dr. Susan Enfield Jun 10, 2024

Join host Peter DeWitt and Mike Nelson as they interview Dr. Susan Enfield, an alumna of Harvard's urban superintendent program. In this episode, we delve into the importance of mentorship, helping students feel seen and heard, and the need for self-reflection. We also discuss the necessity of taking calculated risks in addressing prominent issues within our educational organizations and solving problems. Dr. Enfield shares her perspective on the bold moves required to face inequities, emphasizing that in order to do right by our children, we must sometimes make our lives harder.

We then explore how to support women in leadership roles, highlighting the importance of making them feel seen and valued in subtle ways. Dr. Enfield explains how humanizing and supporting women in their personal lives can enhance their professional performance and discusses the value of creating a supportive network.

Don't miss Dr. Enfield's impactful way of posing questions and the wealth of knowledge she generously shares.

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Leading Authentically: School Leadership from a Woman's Perspective With Kim Fry Jun 03, 2024

Delve into the enriching world of authentic leadership with Kim Fry, a seasoned educational leader who journeyed from a student to the superintendent of Rochester School District. In a role where the average duration is 5 years, Kim has been there for 12 and shares how to be agile and empower others to lead while staying true to herself. She emphasizes the need for listening and constant learning as the cornerstones of leadership, while offering crucial insights from a woman's perspective.

Throughout the episode, Kim, Peter DeWitt, and Mike Nelson explore the importance of creating exclusive spaces for women, harnessing authentic leadership gifts, and championing for one's self and others. She highlights how strategic use of AI tools can free up a leader’s time, allowing them to focus on mentoring, coaching, and relationship-building. And casts a critical eye on the decision-making processes regarding Superintendent appointments, delving into how to better educate school board members and bridging the gap between women in education leadership and all education leaders.

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The Heart Work of Giving Every Student What They Need With Nicole Law & Sonja Hollins-Alexander May 27, 2024

How do we unlearn frames of mind that no longer work for us so that we can embrace new learnings that will help us build communities where all can thrive? Join Peter DeWitt, Mike Nelson, Nicole Law and Sonja Hollins-Alexander as they offer deeply thought-provoking reflections on unlearning, learning, soul-searching self-assessment, and what it takes to build a culture where all scholars feel a sense of belonging and recognition.

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Unlocking AI: Making Technology Work for You With Jeff Utecht May 20, 2024

When the world stops and education needs to pivot on a dime, educators have to ask themselves, “What is the purpose of education? How can I take what I know to be sound pedagogy and how do I make technology fit that understanding? How do I make technology work for me and not me work for it?" And ultimately, "How do I make technology work for my students?”

The technology that educators are currently grappling with is how AI fits into classrooms. Join technology expert Jeff Utecht, along with Peter DeWitt and Mike Nelson as they dive deep into how educators can leverage technology and artificial intelligence -not be controlled by it- so they can reshape pedagogy to provide the best for students.

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Listening to the People We Have the Privilege to Serve With Dr. Tiffany Anderson May 13, 2024

Prepare yourself for an engaging conversation in this podcast episode. Host Peter DeWitt and co-host Mike Nelson will be taking you through the inspiring journey of an educational trailblazer, known for her characteristic white sneakers, Dr. Tiffany Anderson. A dynamic figure in her school community, Dr. Anderson is not just confined to the corridors of academia. She's out there greeting students in the mornings, visiting classrooms, and interacting with parents in the community; she's fundamentally reshaping what it means to be a school leader.

In this episode, we'll uncover what drives Dr. Anderson’s deep respect for her school community and her unwavering commitment to listen to their needs. We'll delve into her unique and innovative ways of turning visions of a successful school into a tangible reality - even in seemingly unheard of ways! And above all, we’ll explore how her contagious optimism infuses an expansive perspective where there are no barriers, only unexplored opportunities.

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How to Lead a Culture of Learning and Vulnerability May 06, 2024

In this episode, Peter DeWitt, co-host Mike Nelson and guest Elisa MacDonald tackle the challenging, yet rewarding task of discussing the importance of vulnerability within the educational community. Not only does MacDonald urge educators to be open about their struggles with their students, but she also emphasizes the need for this transparency amongst professional peers. She believes that by allowing students and colleagues to witness our challenges and the process of turning them into triumphant victories, we forge a potent precedent. This approach aids in constructing a culture that values perpetual learning and growth. In an interesting twist, MacDonald points out an intriguing paradox: the power in leading with intent and purpose while simultaneously staying open and receptive to the learning process. Join Peter, Mike, and Elisa for a deep dive into the nuanced art of teaching, leading, and learning, painting a picture where vulnerability is reframed from weakness to strength.

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Partnering With Parents and Students Apr 29, 2024

In this episode, we delve deep into the complex challenges often faced by students in urban areas - obstacles compounded by factors such as race, gender, social class, and more. Our guest is none other than Tyrone Howard, the President of AERA and a national authority in urban education.

Howard brings his extensive knowledge and experience to the table, providing valuable insights and guidance for educators and leaders. He emphasizes the crucial role of listening to parents and students, encouraging them to actively participate in cultivating a thriving school culture where every student feels a sense of belonging while fostering a passion for learning.

Additionally, Howard advocates for an organic and holistic approach to data collection in education, focusing on truly hearing what students have to say. This, he believes, is essential for shaping school policies that genuinely reflect students' needs and are specifically tailored to guarantee their success.

Join Peter DeWitt and Season 7 Co-host, Mike Nelson, as we explore these critical issues with Tyrone, uncovering pragmatic strategies aimed at overcoming barriers to create an inclusive, successful learning environment for all students.

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Meaningful Multlingual Assessment Apr 22, 2024

With her emphasis on relationship building as the backdrop for linguistically and culturally sustainable assessment, the bestselling author Margo Gottlieb tells educators that we can do better when it comes to how we assess multilingual learners. In this episode she discusses her latest edition of Assessing Multilingual Learners, and she offers educators welcoming and encouraging ways to support multilingual learners to succeed in school and beyond. How? By authentically integrating the needs of multilingual students as core to the assessment as opposed to just adding on components that may fail to meet their needs. To do this, Gottlieb suggests educators use asset-based language, student centered activities, relevant classroom assessments and more.

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How Educators Can Find Their Roots Apr 15, 2024

Politics, learning loss and a tsunami of initiatives can get in the way of what matters most in education: strategies aligned to key goals, systems for high quality professional learning and, most of all, creating a culture where all are seen and heard. Lionel Allen, hand picked by Arnie Duncan to lead the nation’s first turnaround school, is committed to helping leaders and teachers remember their “why.” In this episode, he passionately discusses a vision for our schools that centers students and values the adults charged to educate them. As he outlines in his new book Lead With CARE, affirmation, responsiveness, relationships and empowerment are all integral to designing the schools that students deserve.

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The Age of Identity: Who Do Our Kids Think They Are? with Dennis Shirley and Andrew Hargreaves Nov 06, 2023

A perfect storm is upon us and educators are in the middle of it. Identity issues often incite and divide us, but they are actually our way out of the storm. This is what this episode’s guests, Andrew Hargreaves and Dennis Shirley, posit. In their latest book, The Age of Identity, they seek to shed light on this topic to help educators make meaning of this highly complicated issue. They demonstrate how to be vulnerable, ask questions, and interrogate our own thinking to better prepare young people for a future where they can learn to live together and help others belong.

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Leading for All with Jennifer Spencer-iiams Oct 30, 2023

Too many schools still rely on deeply ingrained, segregated practices that fail to serve all students. Author of the book Leading for All and district leader Jennifer Spencer-iiams would like to change this. In this episode she shares lessons learned from spending nearly a decade building a school district where all students are served in their neighborhood school and in classrooms with their general education peers. Hear how to get better academic outcomes for all students, not just those identified with disabilities, by promoting self-efficacy, improving social and emotional health, and consistently implementing research-based instructional strategies.

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How to Deepen Collaboration with Your Teams with Mike Nelson Oct 23, 2023

One does not often pair unreasonable and irrational with care and hospitality, but superstar superintendent Mike Nelson does. As he sees it, to get at the kind of collaboration most school leaders crave requires them go far deeper into human relations than usual. In this episode, he defines what he calls human interconnectedness and provides specific examples of what it looks like and how to get there. Topics include how to make your staff feel seen and heard every day, the benefits of taking the time to build strong connections and tips for fully immersing yourself in the daily experiences of those you lead.

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Happy Kids Don't Punch You in the Face with Ben Springer Oct 16, 2023

When there’s a nuclear meltdown happening with a student in your school, you don’t have a second to think. Author and consultant Ben Springer, shares the framework from his bestselling book Happy Kids Don’t Punch You in the Face, to discuss what to do in the heat of the moment, and how you can decrease the chances of incidents happening in the first place. His approach is a field-tested, integrating principles of behavioral intervention with the best practices of positive psychology—a fresh, effective response that respects the tough realities facing today’s educators.

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The Rise and Fall of Balanced Literacy with Pamela Snow Oct 09, 2023

On this episode, Pamela Snow, renowned speech-language pathologist and psychologist, gives an incisive analysis of how good people all over the world came to eschew the science of what works for reading instruction. She makes a compelling case for viewing school as a public health intervention, making it of the utmost importance that we get our teaching practices right. The bottom line is that while how we feel as educators matters, efficacy matters even more—and the two don’t have to be in competition. If you are looking for points to persuade educators to abandon low-value practices and to champion the right to literacy for all, you will find it in Pamela’s knowledge and wisdom.

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Your First 90 Days as a School Leader with Daniel Bauer Oct 02, 2023

Have you ever started your school year as a principal feeling overwhelmed and pulled in a million directions? It’s a common experience and one not addressed explicitly in a many training programs. This episode’s guest, Daniel Bauer, is on to talk about a practical solution: creating the perfect principal entry plan. You will hear him discuss his framework that promises big payoffs for just a few hours of focused work. If you believe crystal clear clarity on your goals is the most efficient way to support your team and sustain continuous improvement, hit play.

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Serving Educational Equity with Sonya Murray and Gwendolyn Turner Sep 25, 2023

Planning for equitable accelerated learning is analogous to preparing a meal. Similar to a chef selecting the menu, gathering ingredients, and planning the occasion, educators choose aligned curricula to prioritize learning to help students internalize instruction. Straight from their new book Serving Educational Equity, Sonya Murray and Gwendolyn Turner share with listeners how to distinguish acceleration from remediation, establish effective foundational instruction, expand student engagement for all students, and use student excellence as the driver for full equity.

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Why Educational Strategies and Student Outcomes are Not in Sync with Lyle Kirtman Sep 18, 2023

Research repeatedly shows that educators spend a lot of time doing activities that do not connect to student outcomes. Not on purpose, but in a world with so many distractions it becomes easy to lose the North Star. In this podcast, author and consultant Lyle Kirtman implores us to shed any projects or behaviors that do not align with our goals for student outcomes. In fact, he stresses that this is imperative if we want to stop the rapid rate of burnout that is impacting schools at all levels. Listeners will get tips on how to talk to data-averse teachers about data, use guiding questions to make decisions about what to do and what not to do, and how to skillfully push back against mandates that run counter to a school’s mission.

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Are Our Leaders Ready? with Tim Cusack and Vince Bustamante Sep 11, 2023

Schools need leaders, but fewer and fewer are entering into the position. And far too few are thriving once they are in the role. Two reasons: a mismatch of expectations and a lack of clarity about what the job entails. These signal that it is time to take a hard look at how we prepare aspiring leaders. Tim Cusack and Bustamante have surveyed the landscape, and share their findings in their latest book, Leader Ready. They propose four pathways to get budding leaders to bloom, including standards-based support, guided practice with mentors and mastery experiences.

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Onboarding New Teachers Sep 04, 2023

New teaching staff, whether novice or veteran, are a central part of a successful school year. So why is it that they are often greeted at the door of our school community with the autopilot vibe of a ticket taker at the movies? In their latest book Onboarding Teachers, Fisher, Frey, Shin and Biscocho change the rules of engagement, offering activities and practical strategies that focus leaders and coaches on critical aspects of success for that make-or-break first year.

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Even More Learning Made Visible with John Hattie May 15, 2023

The one and only John Hattie joins LCL to share the sequel of his seminal book, Visible Learning. It is not merely an update on previous content, but a concerted effort to focus on what we don’t already know about, along with data that has changed. He also discusses the importance of paying attention to what teachers believe about learning, the need to highlight the many schools doing the work well and how to choose where to focus our limited time as educators. He reminds us that teachers and leaders have some of the highest coping strategies of any profession and that there is much to celebrate in all we do.

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Adaptive Challenges, Collective-Efficacy, Confirmation Bias and More with Jennie Donohoo and Steven Katz May 08, 2023

Scheduling common planning times is not just about moving some pieces around on a chart. It is also about the educators who enter these spaces and the beliefs they carry with them. In this episode Donahoo and Katz help listeners see that many decisions have both a technical and adaptive aspect to them. They ask listeners to reflect on unhelpful stories, bogus barriers, overconfidence, and other behaviors that need interruption. They also implore leaders to get comfortable with discomfort because it is the only way to get good ideas to stick.

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Mastery Learning with Tom Guskey May 01, 2023

Going deep into education research can feel daunting, but not when you’re listening to Tom Guskey. Sharing the highlights from his latest book, Implementing Mastery Learning, third edition, Guskey begins with a short history of mastery learning and ends with its continued relevance today. You will hear about formative assessment, effective correctives, high-quality enrichment, how to change mindsets, and much more. Rooted in a conviction that every students should have access to the tools of a scholar, Guskey reaffirms our belief that excellence for all is possible.

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So...How is Student Behavior Going? with Larry Thompson Apr 24, 2023

How much training did you get on classroom management before you became a leader or teacher? The answer is probably: not much—and we are seeing the catastrophic results. Larry Thompson is on a mission to elevate this work, so it stands shoulder to shoulder with all we know about curriculum and instruction. He views poor behavior as a skill deficit that can be improved with strategic coaching. Thompson touches upon how to listen to what a child is actually saying when they are upset, “spot” them in ways that build their autonomy and agency and ultimately advance high-quality culture in your school.

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How To Get Your Next Initiative to Stick with James Marshall Apr 17, 2023

Do you know how to identify the white space in your organization? No? Well not knowing could explain why some of your great ideas fail to gain traction. In this podcast, James Marshall discusses how school leaders can master successful implementation. Based on his new book Right From the Start, Marshall sets forth a pathway to get predictable results from your programming. From needs assessment straight through to evaluation, you’ll get user-friendly guidance on how to tackle this work with confidence.

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Making Black Success Predictable with Joseph Johnson Apr 10, 2023

Joseph Johnson, an expert in urban education reform, shares what leaders in high performing urban schools do differently. He skillfully articulates that great achievement with these students is not an anomaly and, in fact, reliably occurs when certain pieces are in place. This includes making students and families feel valuable, focusing on mastery, ensuring culturally responsive teaching, progress monitoring and so much more. Johnson calls on listeners to reject the status quo that keeps so many students stuck. Instead, he shows how we can look to models of excellence for the strategies that actually work to help urban students thrive.

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Leading While Female with Trudy Arriaga, Stacie Stanley and Delores Lindsey Apr 03, 2023

If we look at the data, we can safely say women are doing the work of classroom teaching while disproportionately, men are making administrative and leadership decisions. On this episode, three school leaders discuss how to start breaking down barriers and leading the way for future generations of women leaders. This includes finding the right mentors, identifying the differences in the superintendency versus the instructional track and embracing traditionally “female traits” in leadership roles. This open and honest conversation will point all listeners towards a more inclusive leadership environment.

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A Brain Friendly Chat with David Sousa and Carol Ann Tomlinson Mar 27, 2023

In this episode, world renown neuroscientist David Sousa and differentiated instruction expert Carol Ann Tomlinson discuss matters of the brain and its connection to effective instructional strategies. Listeners will hear why cooperation, engagement and belonging are precursors to achievement and what they can start to do about it. They will also get some updated definition of terms in desperate need tweaking. Whether you think you know a lot about learning and the brain, or are just getting started, this episode will help you walk away with some new tools to improve practice.

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Restoring Humanity Through Personalized Learning with Paul France Mar 20, 2023

“If it’s not sustainable, then it’s not best practice.” This quote speaks to Paul France’s commitment to honor both teachers and students. In this episode, France provides a clear yet nuanced understanding of personalized learning. He explains how personalized learning is different from other adjacent concepts such as differentiated instruction and individualized learning plans. He advocates for a process that respects teacher knowledge and time, the optimal learning environment for students and the need for all to have a voice.

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How to Realistically Retain Your Joy with Debbie Silver Mar 13, 2023

School leaders and teachers have really been through it the last few years. Remaining optimistic can be quite a challenge under such circumstances. Enter Debbie Silver—speaker, author, humorist—to shed light on how to stay positive in 2023 and beyond. She shares four strategies from her new edition of Deliberate Optimism including getting accurate data and remembering how to focus what you can control. Always rooted in pragmatism and realism, Silver discusses how educators can get their power back and reclaim the joy in education.

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More Courageous Leadership with Mike Soules Nov 07, 2022

This episode’s guest is not a school leader, but as President of Corwin Publishing, Mike Soules knows a thing or two about staying buoyant in troubled waters. Like leaders everywhere, he was tasked with steadying the company during Covid and its aftermath. He discusses what he learned about leadership during times of crisis, holding true to your values even when external pressures are high and spearheading innovative approaches to common challenges. He also shares an exciting new development that underscores Corwin’s commitment to using high quality research to support educators’ professional development needs.

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7 Mindshifts for Tackling Old Problems in Education with Connie Hamilton, Joseph Jones and T.J. Vari Oct 31, 2022

Poor achievement scores, teacher turnover, funding shortfalls and political pressures. These are just a few issues that have dogged the education profession for years; they seem intractable. But this session’s guests disagree. They believe we need a few mindshifts to spark our collective efficacy for tackling these problems. They also believe certain leadership behaviors which emerged to help manage the Covid crisis are valuable to retain and apply to these perennial problems in education. They discuss how different mindshifts are suited to particular challenges, offer leaders a way to reignite their passion for finding solutions to tough issues and frameworks for processing old problems in new ways.

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The 10th Anniversary of Putting FACES on the Data with Lyn Sharratt Oct 24, 2022

Education luminary Lyn Sharratt shares updates on her seminal book with Michael Fullan, Putting FACES on the Data. Data and accountability are important to a school’s success. Yet as important as numbers and targets are, without the “why”, meaning is lost. Reminding ourselves of the children in front of this data is key to improving instruction. Listen as Lyn shares the origins of this practice, strategic moves that make everyone a leader of learning, and the infrastructure she has built— including an online suite of classes—to help educators do this life-changing work.

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So You Think You Want to Write a Book… Oct 17, 2022

There is a question that Peter Dewitt gets often: How do I go about getting a book published? In fact, he’s heard it so much, that we decided to pull back the curtains on this process for interested listeners. Tanya Ghans, Corwin acquisitions editor and Morgan Fox, Corwin marketing manager, share some tips for getting a book proposal noticed. You will hear about how to know if you have a viable idea, what marketing looks like in the 21st century, dealing with rejection and more.

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Transforming Schools for Multilingual Learners with Debbie Zacarian Oct 11, 2022

In this episode, Debbie Zacarian shares updates in the world of educating multilingual learners. This research includes a more nuanced understanding of the socicultural underpinnings of language development, a shift from deficit to asset-based models that affirm the value of multilingualism, a greater appreciation of the importance of both culturally responsive instruction and more. Debbie proposes a thorough revision to address all these developments that keeps the needs of multilingual students front and center.

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How Welcoming is Your School? A Frank Discussion About Recruiting and Retaining People of Color with Howard Fields and Darryl Diggs Oct 03, 2022

Retention is crucial for school sustainability. The historical knowledge and experience that longtime staff members have is often unparalleled. Therefore, the high turnover rate we are seeing today, and frankly always for some schools, is nothing less than devastating for school communities. When we add on to that retaining teachers of color, the effects are multiplied. This episode’s guests, Darryl Diggs and Howard Fields, speak candidly about the conditions in many schools that make some black and brown staff members feel unwelcome. They ask leaders to consider whether they are asking some groups of people to leave too much of themselves at the classroom door or signaling that certain perspectives are unwelcome. In other words, does a leader’s school culture and environment truly align with their diversity goals. They also urge leaders to get think outside of the box regarding recruitment efforts: flipped job fairs, apps that link applicants and organizations via phones, the best questions to determine fit and more.

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“We are not all the same!” How to Differentiate Supervision with Ann Mausbach and Kim Morrison Sep 26, 2022

Many teachers recoil at term “supervision.” Who can blame them. So often it is something done to teachers with a tenuous connection to their unique, professional needs. Authors Ann Mausbach and Kim Morrison are on a mission to fix that. In this episode, they remind leaders that teachers need differentiation as much as students do; there is no one size fits all approach. They also know that this can be a tricky task for busy administrators, so they share their framework to help leaders conceptualize and execute high quality supervision across the school year, including co-constructing look fors, layering feedback, gathering relevant data and incorporating findings seamlessly into professional development. With their method of differentiated supervision, teachers will be a lot happier when leaders and coaches walk into their classrooms because they know the focus will be all about support.

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Teacher Retention: Who’s Abandoning Whom? with Michael Fullan and Joanna Rizzotto Sep 19, 2022

In a follow up to their widely popular Edweek article, the luminary Michael Fullan and seasoned practitioner Joanna Rizzotto discuss the roots of our teacher retention problem—the system of schooling itself. They contend that we need to shift to a humanity-based model where schools and communities can experience greater local autonomy and improve practices from the bottom up. One of the first steps is to have the more centralized figures connect with the people on the ground; the educators, parents, and students who see it all first. Such interactions would truly show teachers and other community members their value and give district leaders the data they need to make the most effective, holistic decisions. As Fullan and Rizzotto see it, teachers—especially those that stick around—have never left their calling, they have just abandoned an outmoded structure that too often isn’t nimble or responsive enough changing times.

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Leader Credibility with Douglas Fisher, Nancy Frey, and Cathy Lassiter Jul 04, 2022

When we see a great leader in action, it can seem like magic. But thankfully it’s not. In fact, there is a science behind the people we trust and want to follow. It is the science of credibility. In this session you will hear about the five essential traits of leaders who inspire and influence others. You can begin to reflect on your own practice and discover intentional moves that transform schools into vibrant spaces of learning and innovation.

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Schools on the Move with Jay Westover and Chris Steinhauser Jun 27, 2022

A coherent system has never been more important for schools. In fact, the best buffer against crisis, learning loss, and changing human resources is a school that has uniform systems, shared language, and a common vision. This net provides the structure for continuous learning at both the teacher and student level. If you are a district leader, the trick is to keep all the schools in focus and on the same page so that that the system moves like one organism. Our guests today will help clarify this complexity and map a path for keeping schools on the move.

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A Smarter Way to Discuss the Reading Wars with Kareem Weaver Jun 20, 2022

Many educators are tired of the pendulum swinging so often when it comes to reading instruction. And while this fatigue is understandable, the low reading rates of so many children demand continued attention. In fact, many argue that it is the social justice issue of our time. Kareem Weaver would agree and has spent most of his career fighting for a student’s right to read. He has learned many lessons on how to cut through the polarization and grow a coalition of leaders who are fighting for the same cause. Find out Kareem’s groundbreaking insights on what he calls “full and complete reading”, leader development, the hidden chasm between educators and students, and steps to end the reading wars once and for all.

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Family Matters with Steve Constantino Jun 13, 2022

Behind every great school are active and engaged families. Period. Yet it can be so easy for this to fall through the crack for busy leaders. Today’s bestselling author will break down why it’s important to prioritize engaging families, how engaging families has shifted in our current time, and give some practical tips that work quickly. He will convince you that developing relationship with families, especially those that appear disengaged or those who have been disenfranchised, is one of the most important things you can do as a school leader.

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How De-implementation Can Ease Overwork with Peter DeWitt Jun 06, 2022

In this episode, Peter Dewitt discusses the concept of de-implementation and why it’s a term that should be on every leader’s mind. He sounds the alarm on what will continue to happen to our school communities if we don’t start easing the overwhelming workload for teachers and principals. With its origins in the medical field, Peter explains how de-implementation is also useful in the field of education for tackling the challenge of overwork. He will share the different forms it can take and when it makes sense to use a formalized process to lessen waste, increase results, and support major school improvement efforts.

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Dear School Leaders May 31, 2022

Leaders today know that teacher voice matters, yet getting honest feedback can be elusive. In this episode, four veteran teachers discuss what is top of mind for them as they educate our students. Topics range from current ideas in math and ELA to how you can help keep heated political issues away from their classrooms. If you have ever wanted to be a fly on the wall and hear what your most respected and productive teachers have to say, this is the session for you.

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How to Help Leaders Stick Around May 23, 2022

We all know the principal who has led their school for over a decade. How does that happen? What makes them feel like they can make a difference year after year. Our guests would say it is likely the kind of training and support they received before ever stepping into the role. This includes apprenticing expert leaders, engaging in relevant learning tasks, taking risks, and celebrating mastery to name a few. To nourish future leaders, and stem the growing tide of attrition, it’s all about setting them up for success in the first place.

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The Meeting You Need to Have May 16, 2022

Collaborative does not always mean productive or responsive. Earmarking time in the day for educators to meet and discuss the needs of children is essential, but only if these meetings scale solutions and build teacher capacity. In this episode find out how you can efficiently respond to the needs of individual and small groups of students while building your school’s overall collective efficacy.

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Do You Really Understand Equity? with Dr. Tammy Campbell and Dr. Chaunte Garrett May 09, 2022

Today, we hear the rallying cry for equity all around us. Education leaders champion its cause, but how seamlessly is the work folded into their everyday practice? Equity cannot stand alone or be part of a title given to some person working somewhere in the organization. For it to be realized, school and district leaders must see it as inseparable from other aspects of leadership and create systems that activate it in every classroom, for every student. In this episode, listen as two recognized superintendents share how they unpack and operationalize equity in their schools.

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Courageous Leadership with Michael Fullan, Mark Edwards, Marty Polio, and Joris Ray May 02, 2022

Covid. Book bans. Polarizing legislation. The last few years have been relentless in their efforts to pull district leaders’ attentions away from the normal business of running schools. But some leaders have remained a true beacon of light, keeping everyone’s eye on what is best for students. They remind educators that it is not SEL, or academics, or inclusion, but all of the above if we want an effective response to current challenges; that courage is the trait that precedes all others when deciding how to respond in a crisis. Listen as four leaders from all over the country show how they use their “spirit” to stay focused, build belonging, and successfully lead their schools.

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Leading 5 Generations in Your School With Mark White Nov 01, 2021

For the first time in recent history, school leaders have five generations in their schools: Baby Boomers, Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z (entering as brand-new teachers), and Gen Alpha students. In this far-reaching episode, Peter DeWitt and Mark White discuss how schools can leverage new technology to reach their youngest teachers and students, how to retain and attract more Millennials and Gen Z teachers, and how to move from managing to coaching with all generations.

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Improving Leadership Team Habits With Anthony Kim Oct 25, 2021

In schools, the logistics of how our teams work together are just as important as what we work together to do. In this super practical episode, organizational development expert Anthony Kim shares better habits for school leadership teams to adopt.
Anthony is the CEO of Education Elements and the author of The New Team Habits and The New School Rules.

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Empowering Women in School Leadership With Trudy Arriaga and Delores Lindsey Oct 18, 2021

The stories we tell about school leadership are predominantly male - but that needs to change. In this important episode, authors Trudy Arriaga and Delores Lindsey share new stories about women in school leadership, and paint a picture of what gender equity actually looks like.
Trudy Arriaga and Delores Lindsay, along with Stacie Stanley, are the authors of Leading While Female: A Culturally Proficient Response for Gender Equity.

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Supporting Students in Poverty With Horacio Sanchez Oct 11, 2021

Dr. Horacio Sanchez brings a wealth of expertise and knowledge to this deep dive into the effects of poverty on learning. Covering language development, empathy, behavior, and bias, this wide-ranging episode will center on what school leaders need to know to support students from impoverished situations.
Dr. Sanchez is the author of The Poverty Problem: How Education Can Promote Resilience and Counter Poverty's Impact on Brain Development and Functioning.

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Building Up Your Leadership Teams With Peter DeWitt Oct 04, 2021

In this episode, host Peter DeWitt sits in the hot seat to talk about his new book, Collective Leader Efficacy. Much has been written about the power of teachers' collective efficacy to impact student learning - but Peter has found that collective efficacy can enhance the role of instructional leadership teams as well. In this episode, Peter shares the 8 drivers that instructional leadership teams can use to build their collective efficacy.
Learn more about Peter and sign up for his monthly newsletter at https://petermdewitt.com/.

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Leveling Up Your Leadership With Daniel Bauer Sep 27, 2021

Daniel Bauer, self-proclaimed Ruckus Maker and host of the Better Leaders Better Schools podcast, is all about improving leadership development through masterminds: small groups of school leaders coming together to support each other and "level up" their leadership. Danny quotes Jim Rohn in saying that you are the average of the five people you spend the most time with, and argues that the best way to lead is from a place of authenticity, belonging, and challenge found in community.
Order Daniel's new book, Mastermind: Unlocking Talent Within Every School Leader here. Learn more about Daniel's work at https://betterleadersbetterschools.com/.

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Affirming Every Student's Humanity With Sharone Brinkley-Parker, Tracey Durant, Kandice Taylor, Lisa Williams, Kendra Johnson, and Johari Toe Sep 20, 2021

To prioritize all students' dignity as humans sometimes requires us to step outside of our comfort zones. In order to achieve racial equity, we have to interrogate and dismantle the structures that currently maintain the inequitable status quo. This is messy, uncomfortable work - and yet it's entirely necessary to accomplishing our goals. In this episode, the six authors of Humanity Over Comfort share their thoughts on how we can all contribute to achieving equity.

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Establishing Better Mentoring Systems with Carol Radford Sep 13, 2021

Author, speaker, and expert mentor Carol Radford shares her expertise on why mentoring continues to be an important element of any teacher's success - but especially for new teachers after COVID-19. Mentoring is key to raising teachers' self-efficacy, helping them improve, and building their confidence to lead to competence. Carol's work also centers the student as the focus of any mentoring conversation between leaders and teachers. This episode is a must-listen for leaders who want to build a better mentoring program in their schools!
Carol is the author of two bestselling books for mentors and mentees: Mentoring in Action (for mentors) and The First Years Matter (for novice teachers). Her newest book, Teaching With Light, offers teachers 10 lessons for finding wisdom, balance, and inspiration.

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High Expectations and Authenticity With Debbie Silver Sep 06, 2021

Power house speaker and author Debbie Silver joins Peter DeWitt to talk about the importance of reaching students with authenticity and empowering them with high expectations. Debbie is a well known speaker on resilience and cultivating intrinsic motivation - and never has there been a time when those are needed more! She shares how leaders can help to recognize the genius in all of their teachers and establish a learning culture of high expectations.
Her bestselling book, Fall Down 7 Times, Get Up 8 (2nd Edition), helps leaders and teachers cultivate a culture of high expectations and resilience in their schools.

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What Will You NOT Do This Year? With John Hattie Aug 30, 2021

In our first episode of Season 2, John Hattie joins Peter DeWitt to talk about the benefits of de-implementation, or deciding what NOT to do in the 2021-2022 school year. After COVID-19 forced many school districts to simplify, the temptation is to pick up again with lots of new programs to combat "learning loss" and other initiatives. John argues that leaders and teachers must take a different approach - one focused on understanding each child's learning individually, looking at the evidence, and making adjustments from there.

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Accelerating Learning After COVID-19 with Doug Fisher and Nancy Frey May 03, 2021

COVID-19 was the disruption none of us wanted or expected - but it happened. Now school leaders have a choice: Will you contribute to the negative narratives surrounding it, or rebound better than before? In this informative and practical episode, Peter talks with Doug Fisher and Nancy Frey about shifting the narrative from "learning loss" to "learning leaps." There are several ways to accelerate learning as we rebound:

teacher clarity
collective student efficacy
reciprocal teaching
paying attention to feedback from kids
and so much more

It's time to celebrate all that we've learned and how far we've come as a community.

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The Game of Grading with Tom Guskey Apr 27, 2021

Grading in the U.S. is typically a hodge podge amalgamation of many measurements: homework, quizzes, tests, projects, participation, and many other factors. Grading often becomes a game for many students, and some students simply refuse to play. But author Tom Guskey is hoping we can change our grading practices so that we (and students) no longer see grading as an end in itself, but instead as just a reflection of a moment in time. In this episode filled with personal stories and examples, Peter and Tom will discuss:

the downfalls of percentage grading
how grading is sometimes used as a punishment
Tom's recommendations for better grading practices

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Engaging Kids in Learning Transfer with Julie Stern Apr 19, 2021

Memorization is not enough; applying what you know to new and novel situations is a necessary skill for all students today. This skill is called learning transfer, and it's the topic of today's episode with author Julie Stern. Julie talks about the importance of how teaching conceptual understanding can be a powerful way to engage students not only in learning, but in processing their own experiences. Listen in to hear:

practical examples of how to teach learning transfer
how to transition from teaching to standards to teaching concepts
how teaching concepts helps you teach standards more easily and efficiently

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Demystifying Collective Efficacy with Megan Tschannen-Moran and Jenni Donohoo Apr 12, 2021

Collective efficacy has become a buzzword in recent years - with accompanying misunderstandings, misapplications, and criticisms. In this de-mystifying and debunking episode, Peter DeWitt talks with collective efficacy experts Megan Tschannen-Moran (author of Evocative Coaching) and Jenni Donohoo (author of Leading Collective Efficacy). The authors clarify that collective efficacy is about our collective beliefs in our own power to positively influence student learning. If a teacher (or leader) team has collective efficacy, then setbacks, challenges, and failures don't derail them. COVID-19 has actually provided a lot of opportunities for leaders and teachers to build collective efficacy throughout the school community. In this episode, you'll learn:

The benefits and criticisms of collective efficacy
The relationship between self-efficacy and collective efficacy
The building blocks of collective efficacy

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The Imperative of SEL with John and Jessica Hannigan Apr 05, 2021

John & Jessica Hannigan, authors of SEL From a Distance, speak from their own experience about how important social-emotional learning (SEL) is for students, teachers, and school leaders. SEL is not something that comes to any of us naturally; the skills to take care of ourselves must be taught explicitly. The authors share how to do that from a distance (i.e. online in virtual teaching), as well as in person. Full of personal stories, you will learn in this episode:

how to teach kids SEL explicitly
the importance of taking care of ourselves as educators
how to build clarity and a common understanding of SEL

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The Right Drivers for Whole System Success with Michael Fullan Mar 29, 2021

After publishing a 2011 paper on the four wrong drivers of school system reform, Michael Fullan sits down with Peter DeWitt to talk about the new right drivers that bring whole system success: wellbeing, social intelligence, equality investments, and systemness. School and system leaders can use these four drivers to focus on the right priorities as schools recover from COVID-19 and seek to accelerate learning again. Listen to hear:

How we are democratizing leadership post-COVID
Why having a mindset of systemness can help you "exploit upward, liberate downward, and lateralize everywhere"
How "big spirit" can help leaders rise above hopelessness and lean into learned hopefulness.

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Re-Engaging Multilingual Learners with Debbie Zacarian, Margarita Calderon, and Margo Gottlieb Mar 22, 2021

After distance learning in 2020, schools have an opportunity to engage multilingual learners and their families in a whole new way - or maybe even for the first time. In this episode, Peter DeWitt talks with Debbie Zacarian, Margarita Calderon, and Margo Gottlieb, the authors of Beyond Crises, about how school leaders can reach this population of students and families. The authors share practical starting points and real stories from schools doing amazing work.
You'll hear:

why starting with a strengths-based approach, rather than a deficit lens, is so crucial;
how district leaders can make supporting multilingual learners a priority;
how to give multilingual students agency.

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Season 1 Trailer: Dwight Carter on Maintaining a Positive School Climate Mar 02, 2021

We live in an age of hyperchange - with disruptions piling on top of each other. In our first episode of Leaders Coaching Leaders, award-winning principal Dwight Carter shares how school leaders can maintain positivity in the midst of accelerating changes - and even learn to embrace them. Not all disruptions are negative - some are actually necessary for growth. In his new book, co-authored with Mark White, Leading Schools in Disruptive Times, 2nd edition, Dwight and Mark show leaders the Coping, Adjusting, Transforming (CAT) framework for responding to disruption.

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Leading SEL by Modeling It with James Bailey and Randy Weiner Mar 02, 2021

School leaders often make decisions to help their students and staff - but when it comes to investing in themselves, they are notoriously negligent. This is a big mistake, as James Bailey and Randy Weiner, authors of The Daily SEL Leader, point out. Social-emotional learning is personal work, and school leaders have to be willing to engage in the work themselves before they can lead others in doing the work. In this episode, Peter DeWitt talks with the authors to learn:

The unlikely aspects of SEL you might be neglecting
How to approach SEL work with honesty and authenticity
The cost of not embracing SEL for yourself and your school

Learn more at corwin.com/leaderscoachingleaders

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Navigating Resistance to Equity Work with Candace Raskin and Melissa Krull Mar 02, 2021

In this episode, Peter talks with Candace Raskin and Melissa Krull, authors of Principal Leadership for Racial Equity: A Field Guide for Developing Racial Consciousness. They discuss why there is resistance to "doing what's right for students," and how school leaders can start to break down or go around that resistance. They stress the importance of developing our racial consciousness as leaders - especially as white leaders - before we can support teachers and students of color. Listen to learn:

How we all are socialized to race, and how that socialization impacts our students
What is the "white code"?
How to navigate resistance to equity work

Learn more at corwin.com/leaderscoachingleaders

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Thriving Through Hyperchange with Dwight Carter Mar 02, 2021

We live in an age of hyperchange - with disruptions piling on top of each other. In our first episode of Leaders Coaching Leaders, award-winning principal Dwight Carter shares how school leaders can maintain positivity in the midst of accelerating changes - and even learn to embrace them. Not all disruptions are negative - some are actually necessary for growth. In his new book, co-authored with Mark White, Leading Schools in Disruptive Times, 2nd edition, Dwight and Mark show leaders the Coping, Adjusting, Transforming (CAT) framework for responding to disruption.
Learn more at corwin.com/leaderscoachingleaders

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