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    Lawful Assembly

    The Lawful Assembly podcast teams up two divergent activists, a Secular Humanist Political Activist with an immigration lawyer and an ordained clergy to dissect politics, important legal issues facing the United States, and the role of religion in our political and legal landscapes. Its challenging conversation combines a bit of humor with lamentations over injustices, combined with equal measures of pragmatic cynicism and faith-filled hope. Engage with us as we navigate through the complexities of governance and justice, examining how beliefs and law intersect in the shaping of society. Lawful Assembly is more than just a podcast; it’s a community dedicated to celebrating the power of people gathering together to inspire further understanding and activism where law, ethics, and compassion meet seeking the common good. Tune in, and be part of the conversation that ignites minds and hearts alike.

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    Welcoming the Stranger vs. MAGA Jesus Nov 15, 2024
    Show notes

    Today Craig and Cecil discuss the differences in how groups use Christianity to shape their ideas on immigration. The chapter contrasting the Migrant 4 Life from MAGA Jesus and the immigration consequences of the Tower of Babel story, "A Migrant 4 Life Journeys to the New Tower of Babel: Christianity and Immigration," can be found at: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4769482 The chapter that discusses Ruth and the daily trial of innocence, "Nonrefoulement: Responding to Asylum-seekers Through the Prism of Subversive Stories: A Study of Three Trials of Innocence," can be found at: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4901648 Abrahm Lustgarten discusses the impact of climate on migration in "Refugees from the Earth," July, 26, 2020 NY Times Magazine: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/07/23/magazine/climate-migration.html?searchResultPosition=1


    Post Election Thoughts Nov 08, 2024
    Show notes

    Craig and Cecil talk about the election results, what to do next and how to move forward.

    Notes for this episode:

    Marcela Valdes, "What a Crackdown on Immigration Could Mean for Cheap Milk," NY Times Magazine, October 15, 2024: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/15/magazine/milk-industry-undocumented-immigrants.html?searchResultPosition=1 Harriet Tubman's quote came from Tiya Miles book, Night Flyer, Harriet Tubman and the Faith Dreams of a Free People, (New York, Penguin Press, 2024), pp. 234-5.

    The Madison Square Garden Rally, Elon's Givaways Nov 01, 2024
    Show notes

    We spend much of this week's show talking about and playing clips from the Madison Square Garden Rally. We also cover some news stories about Elon Musk and a new defamation lawsuit filed against Donald Trump

    Trump at the Garden: A Closing Carnival of Grievances, Misogyny and Racism

    There's a Big New Defamation Lawsuit Against Trump. It's a Slam Dunk.

    Elon Musk, enemy of 'open borders,' launched his career working illegally

    Philadelphia DA sues Elon Musk over $1 million giveaway to registered voters : NPR

    For one example of biblical humor, see Elton Trueblood, The Humor of Christ (San Francisco, Harper & Row, 1964).

    Discussing Pernicious Polarization with Dr. Jennifer McCoy, Ph.D. Oct 25, 2024
    Show notes

    Our guest Today is Dr. Jennifer McCoy, Ph.D. She is a Professor of Political Science at Georgia State University. We discussed Pernicious Polarization, what causes it, and how to combat it.

    Overcoming Polarization Journal of Democracy, Volume 32, Number 1, January 2021, Johns Hopkins University Press

    Peter Marty's quote is from "Playing to the Crowds" in The Christian Century that can be found at: https://www.christiancentury.org/first-words/playing-crowds Craig has discussed the Abraham Lincoln statement in his op-ed, "Rescinding DACA: More than Just the Dreamers," Update, Association of Catholic Colleges and Universities(Fall 2017): file:///Users/cmousin/Downloads/Rescinding%20Daca--Update-Fall2017_stamped-3.pdf . Immigrants' List Civic Action has produced a video, "We Are America" which corroborates some of the economic information regarding how immigrants have contributed to the United States which can be found at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Gman2TwHE Lincoln's speech can be found in his "July 10, 1858, speech at Chicago." The Speeches of Abraham Lincoln, Including Inaugurals and Proclamations (Lincoln Centenary Association, NY: 1908).

    Jennifer McCoy is professor of political science at Georgia State University and nonresident scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. She was a senior core fellow at the Institute of Advanced Studies in Budapest, Hungary in spring 2019. McCoy was chosen for the inaugural class of Distinguished University Professorships at Georgia State University in 2013. Specializing in international and comparative politics, Dr. McCoy's areas of expertise include democratic resilience, democratic erosion, and partisan polarization; crisis prevention and conflict resolution; democracy promotion and collective defense of democracy; election processes and international election observation; and Latin American Politics. McCoy's research program on polarized politics aims to identify the causes, consequences for democracy, and solutions to polarized societies around the world, including the United States. She coined the term "pernicious polarization" to refer to the political polarization that divides societies into mutually distrustful "Us vs. Them" camps, and undermines the capacity of democracies to address critical policy problems.


    Trump Bibles in Oklahoma and Voting Like Jesus Oct 18, 2024
    Show notes

    This week we talk about several news stories. All the stories are linked below.

    Megachurch pastor tells congregation to "vote like Jesus" by supporting Trump

    'Trump Bible' one of few that meet Walters' criteria for Oklahoma classrooms

    FBI Kavanaugh probe tightly controlled by Trump White House, congressional report finds - The Washington Post

    DeSantis Threatening Jail Time for Running Abortion Rights Ads in Florida - TPM – Talking Points Memo

    Trump wages campaign against real-time fact checks - The Washington Post

    Dr. Bourbaine's quote can be found in Donald W. Shriver, Jr.'s book, Honest Patriots, Loving A Country Enough to Remember Its Misdeeds, (NY, Oxford Press, 2005), p. 284. Walter Brueggeman's quotes are from, The Land: Place as Gift, Promise and Challenge in Biblical Faith, (Minneapolis: Fortress Press, 2002), pp. 10 and 61. Further discussion of his ideas can be found in Craig's chapter on "Constantine's Legacy: Preserving Empire While Undermining International Law" which can be found at: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3960335 Our theme song, "Don't Fade Away" was co-written by Matt Yaney Tillar and Chris Inserra. We apologize to Chris Inserra for leaving her name out of the recording. "Don't Fade Away" can be found on the CD recorded by Voices, Dare the Untried. If you would like more information on this song or other Voices music, email us at lawfulpod.com. It appears the Oklahoma Superintendent is being sued for the Bibles: https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/oklahomas-ryan-walters-sued-over?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=95153&post_id=150357512&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=3en6fu&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

    Jack Smith's Latest Legal Filing in the Trump v. United States Case Oct 11, 2024
    Show notes

    This week we talk about the newest legal filing by Jack Smith in the DC Trump Case. We talk about what is in it and some commentary on the filing itself and the timing of the filing.

    https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/73357920e3c8d739/8fc8bfd0-full.pdf

    How Jack Smith Outsmarted the Supreme Court

    Opinion | Jack Smith Owes Us an Explanation


    Overhaul SCOTUS, Fact Checking Immigrant Crime Data Oct 04, 2024
    Show notes Sweeping bill to overhaul Supreme Court would add six justices Rudy Giuliani disbarred in D.C. over 2020 election scheme Trump turns to darker rhetoric as voting begins : NPR How Trump distorts immigration and crime data in new attacks on Harris - The Washington Post Biden Administration Cements Harmful Asylum Restrictions Two NIJC reports on the new Biden Asylum Rule "NIJC Condemns Decision to Finalize Anti-Asylum Rule Amid Rampant Rights Violations" which can be found at: https://immigrantjustice.org/press-releases/nijc-condemns-decision-finalize-anti-asylum-rule-amid-rampant-rights-violations?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=7edf6b09-2975-49d7-a000-832758604c04 NIJC's report: "Six-Week Report: Implementation of the Biden Administration's June 2024 "Securing the Border" Asylum Ban" which can be found at: https://immigrantjustice.org/research-items/Biden-June-2024-asylum-ban-six-week-report

    Haitians File Suit Against Trump and Vance, Judge Cannon and Her Right Wing Funded Junkets Sep 27, 2024
    Show notes

    We talk about several stories on this week's show and field a voicemail from a listener.

    Judge Aileen Cannon Failed to Disclose a Right-Wing Junket — ProPublica

    Marcellus Williams is executed despite prosecutors and the victim's family asking that he be spared | CNN

    Haitian group in Springfield, Ohio, files citizen criminal charges against Trump and Vance - ABC7 Chicago

    Opinion | GOP lies about illegal immigrant voting will be the basis for election denial - The Washington Post

    Don Kerwin's article, "The Trials and Consolations of Migrant-Serving Faith-Based Organizations," August 27, 2024, can be found at: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-law-and-religion/article/trials-and-consolations-of-migrantserving-faithbased-organizations/8AA0BC304F1CCFCF94BDDA9A332284F7#metrics

    Jennifer Rubin's article, "The big lie of 2024: illegal immigrant voting," September 24, 2024 can be found at: https://css.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/09/24/illegal-immigrants-voting/


    Trump's Attacks on Immigrants; Ginni Thomas and the First Liberty Institute Sep 20, 2024
    Show notes

    We talk about several news stories this last week. We start by discussing the debates and then move on to talking about Ginni Thomas and the recent story in ProPublica enlisting help opposing SCOTUS reform.

    Judge Sets Deadlines in Trump Election Case, Saying Campaign Is 'Not Relevant'

    Ginni Thomas Email Praised Group Opposing SCOTUS Reform — ProPublica

    Justice Amy Coney Barrett describes coming home with bulletproof vest

    Steve Vladek's comments on the interaction between all three branches of government, "Bonus 98: The "Least Dangerous" Branch—Court Reform and Federalist 78," can be found at: https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/bonus-98-the-least-dangerous-branchcourt?utm_campaign=email-post&r=lv15c&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

    How They Would Dismantle Asylum Using Project 2025 Sep 13, 2024
    Show notes

    TRAC at Syracuse University's report on legal representation, "Too Few Immigration Attorneys: Average representation Rates Fall from 65% to 30%, can be found at: https://trac.syr.edu/reports/736/

    Dorothee Soelle's quote can be found in The Window of Vulnerability, A Political Spirituality, (Minneapolis, Fortress Press, 1990), p.7.

    2025: https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf


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