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    Latter-day Faith

    Latter-day Faith is a weekly podcast hosted by Dan Wotherspoon, PhD, that explores faith and its realities for this time in human history. Although each discussion maintains awareness of its primarily Latter-day Saint audience, the conversations, sensibilities, and variety of guests featured are drawn from many religious traditions.

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    061: Living Deliberately and Deeply—Lyndsay Pulsipher May 27, 2020
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    This episode features a discussion between LDF host Dan Wotherspoon and the wise and engaging Lyndsay Pulsipher. In it, they talk about Lyndsay's upbringing and fascinating background that features life in different locales with experiences and insights gained from each, a blending of two sets of children into one family, along with Lyndsay's career and general sense of the world. They then focus most intently on her faith journey within Mormonism that she always felt welcomed to blend with spiritual practices discovered in her wide reading and in other traditions. Lyndsay speaks about her experiences with centering prayer (with a Tibetan twist), her interest in and practices regarding angels/family members from the post-mortal realm, and her development of Sabbath Day rituals that enhance her devotions during this special day of the week.

    Lyndsay's life and spirituality are simply beautiful. We know you'll enjoy this chance to get to know her! Listen in!


    060: Carol Lynn Pearson—Walking with All of Us May 20, 2020
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    This episode features the magnificent poet, playwright, author and "wise woman elder" of Mormonism, Carol Lynn Pearson! It's always a pleasure to be exposed to her writing and thinking and hard-won insights about life, God, core values, and so much more. Latter-day Faith host Dan Wotherspoon took the opportunity provided by the recent release of her new children's book (that has incredible messages for adults, too), I'll Walk with You. in the first half of the discussion, Carol Lynn takes us through various stages of her life as a writer and public voice on women's issues, LGBT+ educating and supporting, and several others. She then tells us the story of how this particular book came to be, followed by her reading it. It's an experience not to be missed! After that, she and Dan devote the remaining time to life in this time of coronavirus/covid-19 and what they both hope will continue to happen right now now as well as when we emerge from more stringent social distancing. What should we take to heart that this pandemic has taught us and, even more important, what should we re-think, re-imagine, or jettison going forward? We hope you will listen in! An hour with Carol Lynn is always well spent!


    059: God Is Much Bigger Than You Think! -- Grace, Mercy, Belonging in the Book of Mormon, Part 2 May 13, 2020
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    Four years ago, Danny Kofoed made discoveries in the Book of Mormon that have radically changed his views about it. As he re-read the book from cover to cover in preparation for lessons he would teach in Gospel Doctrine class, he found in there much greater richness, especially with regard to what it says about God and the type of relationship God is calling us to, than he had ever imagined. In the many years between the previous times he'd studied the book, really difficult circumstances that were far beyond Danny's control led to his being able to see more clearly than ever just how loving and accessible God really is, and it was this centering that had unfolded in his life that allowed him to see this God presented over and over again within that the Book of Mormon pages. It is so easy to think about the portions of the Book of Mormon that talk about performance of ordinances and other more mechanical ways that we too often feel we must do or follow in order to approach God, as well as the warnings we find of "if you don't do x, y, and z you're not going to make it," and similar rhetoric. Yet in every conversion story, and in much of the reflections by prophets and leaders found in various places, the key idea is God's absolute merciful and loving nature and that we are all invited to experience the Divine directly, for ourselves, without organizational or behavioral hoops. In this two-part episode, Danny joins Latter-day Faith host Dan Wotherspoon to talk about his journey and all that led him to a place to appreciate the wonderful theology present in the Book of Mormon. And, most specifically in this conversation, Danny takes us into one of the most powerful sections of the book: Alma and Amulek's encounter with Zoramite worship and their message to those who had been left out of it, not allowed to join in the worship that they had been taught to think was the only way they could approach or please God. Crestfallen and despondent, they were able to open up their hearts to the messages of God's character as merciful and desiring communion with them in every place, on any day, and in all moments of their lives. By emphasizing the Zoramite context, Alma's "experiment" about planting a seed allows us to see what the seed actually is (and what it IS NOT) in a way we likely would miss otherwise, and how seeing this expands the power of these Book of Mormon passages far beyond what we taught as missionaries and/or encounter in Sunday School. The seed is not about truth claims that relate to a church or ordinance or anything as small as that. The seed spoken of is a seed that, if well attended to, can spring up into a full tree that will nurture and sustain us ever and always. It's the kernal and experiences held within its casing that can truly transform us from inside out. Listen in! Danny's passion is inspiring and infectious, and even if you might not always decide to listen to shows related to the Book of Mormon, the message in this episode far transcends the book's stories and settings. Give it a try. You won't be sorry.


    058: God Is Much Bigger Than You Think! -- Grace, Mercy, Belonging in the Book of Mormon, Part 1 May 13, 2020
    Show notes

    Four years ago, Danny Kofoed made discoveries in the Book of Mormon that have radically changed his views about it. As he re-read the book from cover to cover in preparation for lessons he would teach in Gospel Doctrine class, he found in there much greater richness, especially with regard to what it says about God and the type of relationship God is calling us to, than he had ever imagined. In the many years between the previous times he'd studied the book, really difficult circumstances that were far beyond Danny's control led to his being able to see more clearly than ever just how loving and accessible God really is, and it was this centering that had unfolded in his life that allowed him to see this God presented over and over again within that the Book of Mormon pages. It is so easy to think about the portions of the Book of Mormon that talk about performance of ordinances and other more mechanical ways that we too often feel we must do or follow in order to approach God, as well as the warnings we find of "if you don't do x, y, and z you're not going to make it," and similar rhetoric. Yet in every conversion story, and in much of the reflections by prophets and leaders found in various places, the key idea is God's absolute merciful and loving nature and that we are all invited to experience the Divine directly, for ourselves, without organizational or behavioral hoops. In this two-part episode, Danny joins Latter-day Faith host Dan Wotherspoon to talk about his journey and all that led him to a place to appreciate the wonderful theology present in the Book of Mormon. And, most specifically in this conversation, Danny takes us into one of the most powerful sections of the book: Alma and Amulek's encounter with Zoramite worship and their message to those who had been left out of it, not allowed to join in the worship that they had been taught to think was the only way they could approach or please God. Crestfallen and despondent, they were able to open up their hearts to the messages of God's character as merciful and desiring communion with them in every place, on any day, and in all moments of their lives. By emphasizing the Zoramite context, Alma's "experiment" about planting a seed allows us to see what the seed actually is (and what it IS NOT) in a way we likely would miss otherwise, and how seeing this expands the power of these Book of Mormon passages far beyond what we taught as missionaries and/or encounter in Sunday School. The seed is not about truth claims that relate to a church or ordinance or anything as small as that. The seed spoken of is a seed that, if well attended to, can spring up into a full tree that will nurture and sustain us ever and always. It's the kernal and experiences held within its casing that can truly transform us from inside out. Listen in! Danny's passion is inspiring and infectious, and even if you might not always decide to listen to shows related to the Book of Mormon, the message in this episode far transcends the book's stories and settings. Give it a try. You won't be sorry.


    057: At Last They are Saying It!—Women's Voices in the Church May 05, 2020
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    The title of this episode plays of the name of a new and wonderful podcast, At Last She Said It, co-hosted by Susan Hinckley and Cynthia Winward and produced with help from their wonderful friend Jeralee Renshaw. In it, Susan and Cynthia join LDF host Dan Wotherspoon to talk about women's experiences in the church and how they are often so very different from those of men. It is a terrific discussion, often fun and loaded with "aha's," but also moments that note great sadness and difficulties many Latter-day Saint women encounter as they seek to find and use their voice and, too often, even their place at all within Mormonism. The conversation rotates through topics such as the types of situations in which women and men experience things quite differently, from dynamics in Relief Society and other classes to formal meetings and councils with men presiding and women having no genuine authority to make decisions. It moves into spirituality and thoughts on how men's and women's religious and spiritual lives are affected by their standing within the organization and its many extensions, including "Mormon culture." They discuss how might women lead congregations and pastor their individual ward members differently than do most men? Finally, the panel speaks of obligations that can fall on those who see and can articulate their particular situations within the church. Must they speak up, teach, and help raise awarenesses that might lead to lasting changes, especially ones that will assist the rising generations of women who seem to be voting with their feet that current structures, limits on influence, and gender dynamics must change? This is a rich discussion! Please listen in!


    056: Living Atonement Apr 28, 2020
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    By titling this episode, "Living Atonement," LDF host Dan Wotherspoon signals that the discussion herein focuses on the Atonement as a process rather than an event, and how "at-one-ment" is a life stance for transformation rather than a name for something Jesus performed/did/completed that we somehow "take advantage of" should we "qualify" for its benefits. The very thoughtful Bob Sonntag joins Dan for this conversation and frames atonement in really thought-provoking ways, with language and a heart that cannot help but inspire and draw us in.

    His views about what atonement means draws us into discussions of this time of pandemic, facing our fears and the yawning abyss we fear, and also a way to frame our weaknesses and distance from God in very matter-of-fact but also ennobling ways. His primary emphasis is on relationships, along with gathering and healing the separations and tragic woundedness inherent in all lives. His scriptural and historical study has led him to understand Jesus and his mission, as well as what Joseph Smith and what he was actually teaching, much differently from when he was younger and his lenses were very much church/organizational focused and and at age 28 feeling "dried up." What he centers in now feels true and whole and inspiring. You will be very glad you spent an hour with Bob!


    055: Developing Your Own Spiritual Path Apr 23, 2020
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    This episode focuses on one person's journey though Mormonism that formed for him a wonderful foundation from which he learned to explore more deeply not only into its teachings but also those of eastern spirituality, especially through Hinduism and Kriya Yoga. It is designed to invite listeners into it as a way to discover touchstones and spiritual shifts that likely resonate with their own journeys. Certainly, no two non-linear spiritual paths can be fully alike, but it is so helpful to know particulars of another's movement into deeper and more expansive experiences.

    The man willing to share his journey herein is Ben Heaton, a physician, spiritual seeker, and facilitator of important discussions. Latter-day Faith host Dan Wotherspoon joins in to witness Ben's story, as well as to add insights from his own journey and spiritual awakenings. Their conversation explores profound things that are, nevertheless, quite accessible because of Ben's sharing so openly and with very little, if any, jargon that we all know can often be off-putting. Listen in!


    054: Increasing Our Sense of 'Belonging' Apr 14, 2020
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    It is easy to say we "belong" to a group, even a church or a religious tradition, but what does that really mean? How many times have we said or thought to ourselves, "Sure, I belong," but yet we've still kept one foot pointing toward the door in case this belonging thing starts getting really difficult? In this Latter-day Faith podcast episode, host Dan Wotherspoon welcomes his longtime friend Jana Riess whose wonderful writing and voice of reason has led her to become an insightful and impactful Mormon author, editor, and blogger, to talk with him about what it can mean to "belong" to a community of faith. And especially when we are disappointed in important aspects of it. Jana and Dan take as their jumping off point the reaction they and many others within LDS online conversation circles had to the most recent LDS General Conference, which was a sense of feeling let down. Though very little that happened at conference was acutely painful for sensitive listeners, the fact that it came and went without really addressing (with very few exceptions) what is happening in the world today vis a vis the novel coronavirus and Covid-19 led many to feel greatly disappointed. Many who watched and listened carefully experienced sadness over opportunities missed and frustration about organizational and correlation processes that, even if it wanted to, likely hindered the church's ability to pivot from such a heavy emphasis on the First Vision anniversary so as to make room for announcements and at least several addresses focused more on the specific physical, mental, and spiritual needs of today. It is within this context of sadness, disappointment, and frustration that Jana and Dan jump into the importance of "belonging," even when it's not easy. They share their own experiences along the way that led them each to firmly decide to "belong" to this church—as a community, and even an organization whose leadership and fellow-member stances at times leaves them feeling alienated. How do they face situations that require them as "full belongers" to welcome the difficult along with the wonderful? What kind of spiritual gifts can flow from this kind of stance? In the final section of the conversation (that is actually more monologue--sorry!), Dan takes the conversation about belonging into more esoteric territory, at times confusing Jana (and, we're sure, some listeners!). His reasons for doing this was driven by his reactions to conference, his meditations during Holy Week and Easter, as well as about Passover and how stories shape individuals into a "people." His week had been dominated by insights and working with the difficult spiritual notion of accepting "accountability" for not only our personal, but also our community's sins and failures.

    As a guide for his reflections, he took a Speaking of Faith podcast he'd long held in high esteem that features Krista Tippett's interviewing Rabbi Sharon Brous about Judaism's High Holy Days, and especially Yom Kippur, the "Day of Atonement," which follows ten "Days of Awe" kicked off by Rosh Hashanah. In sharing about his experiences, he tries to describe a kind of ownership of all of Mormonism he experienced that deepened his sense of belonging to this tradition, its history, its journey full of high- and low-points, and the mix of such things playing out in full force today. Finally, he shares how in these experiences he gained a possible glimpse of something that helped begin to make sense for him what Jesus might have been experiencing as he took upon him the sins of all. There is much to chew on in this episode! If you can't fully follow it's move into spiritual and still-being-worked out sensibilities, you won't be alone, and for that we also apologize! Perhaps even just a glimmer of what comes at the end will mean something for you.


    053: Expanding the Way We Pray, Part 2 Apr 09, 2020
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    In this second part of the discussion of prayer and additional types of prayer practices, Latter-day Faith host Dan Wotherspoon along with JoDee Baird, Julie Keanaaina, and Marianne Pond. Featured in this episode is introducing the practice of "centering prayer" and discussing its various elements. The panel introduces other wonderful stances that are especially helpful in spiritual lives, especially in the area of what we can do with all those pesky thoughts that still press in on us while we are meditating or engaged in a wordless prayer practice. The final section introduces a possible place in a person's prayer life that includes praying or reading set prayers. And the panelists definitely share about their experiences of overcoming negative attitudes (mostly learned in Mormonism) toward this prayer practice. They also share some of their favorite prayers and readings of this kind. And in the final few moments, Dan, Julie, and Marianne talk about some advantages of creating a prayer routine, especially designating a room, chair, mat, and postures. It is certainly not a requirement for an enlarged and more meaningful prayer practice, but each of the panelists speak of their good experiences in returning again and again to a specific space and posture. Listen in!


    052: Expanding the Way We Pray, Part 1 Apr 08, 2020
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    The practice of prayer is fundamental in most of the world's faith traditions. And yet within most of these faiths, one finds that there are many forms this practice can take. Mormonism, still less than 200 years old, hasn't yet developed names and clear ways of referencing types of prayers and stances before God that are contained in its scriptures and other texts that have emerged from it. We believe that is yet to come. What has happened instead is that many Latter-day Saints who are answering the call of their deepest longings to connect with the Divine--God but also within themselves--are doing so with the aid of prayer forms and descriptions that have emerged in other traditions. None of these forms conflict with Mormonism's sense of God and ourselves as, at the core, divine, uncreated, capable of enlargement, nor with the fundamental qualities of both God and our deep selves such as being fully loving, compassionate, patient, trusting, recognizing the divine in everything/everyone, and being ever in the process of expanding to include in relationship more. In this episode, Latter-day Faith host Dan Wotherspoon invited three friends who have experienced wonderful things through prayer practices drawn from elsewhere. It features JoDee Baird, Julie Keanaaina, and Marianne Pond sharing, along with Dan, their journeys with prayer, the ways their practices have expanded, and the spiritual benefits and widened experiences that have resulted. Part 1 also approaches one form of prayer called "Centering Prayer" and begins to talk about it in broad terms and about its intentions but closes right before actually teaching it. Its teaching along with another type of praying that each has found powerful come in Part 2, which will be available the following day. Listen in! Be with people virtually who have explored and expanded their prayer lives and forms and who convey through words and tone and emotion something ultimately ineffable and only able to be truly understood through our own personal experiences. Welcome!


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