Knowing Faith - Kyle Worley, JT English, Jen Wilkin

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Home with God: Our Union with Christ (Doctrine of Salvation) Apr 03, 2025

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue their discussion on the core doctrines of the Christian faith by having a conversation about union with Christ.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

What is union with Christ? Why does it matter?
Why do we have an unbalanced understanding of this? Why do we think more about Christ in me?
How does the story of the prodigal son show us union with Christ?
What is the difference between Union with Christ and communion with God?
How is the story of union with Christ the story of “home with God”?
Where do we find union with Christ in the Bible?
When we say that Christ is in us, are we talking about the Holy Spirit?
What are some of the benefits of salvation?
How does union with Christ help us understand our reception of these benefits?
How does being in Christ lead us to sanctification?

Helpful Definitions:

Union with Christ: Being united to Christ by grace through faith. This means that now our identity is rooted in Christ, we are incorporated into a new people in Christ, and we are participating in God's world in God's ways in Christ.
Abide: Verb form of Abode: Home

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

Luke 15:11-32, John 15, John 14:23, Genesis 1-3, Jeremiah 31, Romans 8, Romans 5-6, Ephesians 1, Colossians 1:27, John 10, Hebrews 10:14, Philippians 1:6
“Home with God” by Kyle Worley
“Remember and Rehearse” by JT English
“How Salvation Brings Freedom” by Jen Wilkin

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After the Fact: How to Help A Hurting Person with Dale Johnson Apr 01, 2025

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Kyle Worley is joined by Dale Johnson to answer the question, “How do I help a hurting person?”

Questions Covered in This Episode:

How do I help a hurting person?
What's the single greatest struggle you see well-intended Christians face when attempting to care for a hurting person?

Guest Bio:

T. Dale Johnson, Jr., is the Director of Counseling Programs and Professor of Biblical Counseling at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Johnson also serves as the Executive Director of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors. He is the host of ACBC’s “Truth in Love” podcast. He is the author of The Professionalization of Pastoral Care in America, The Church as a Culture of Care, and Free to Be the Church: Biblical Counseling and Legal Issues. He is husband to Summer, and they live together in Kansas City, Missouri, with their six children.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

Ephesians 4:22-24, 2 Corinthians 1:3-5, 2 Corinthians 5:14, Hebrews 6:19

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The Resurrection, Ascension, and Salvation Mar 27, 2025

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley discuss the significance of the resurrection and ascension of Jesus.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

Is the resurrection of Jesus surprising?
Was the “resurrection” part of Jewish beliefs or hopes at the time of Jesus?
Hadn’t they already seen a resurrection with Lazarus?
Should we be troubled that the resurrection accounts we have in the gospels aren’t a perfect match?
What does the resurrection accomplish?
How and why is the ascension the “forgotten act of Christ”?
Why does the resurrection get all the attention and the resurrection the ascension is often forgotten?
How is this a coronation event in the life of Jesus?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

Luke 24:1-12, Genesis 1-3, 1 Corinthians 15, John 11, Isaiah 25, Ephesians 1, Philippians 2:1-11
Deep Discipleship Program
“Reading the Gospels Wisely” by Jonathan Pennington

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After the Fact: How Women Can Care For Women In The Church with Leslie Umstattd and Christy Allen Mar 26, 2025

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Kyle Worley is joined by Leslie Umstattd and Christy Allen to discuss how to care for women in the local church.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

Why are you passionate about caring for women in the church?
What are two key practices for women to grow in their ability to care for women in their local church??

Guest Bio:

Leslie Umstattd serves as Associate Professor of Christian Education & Ministry to Women and Faculty Co-Coordinator, Ministry to Women Programs at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. She holds an Ed.D. from Midwestern Seminary, Masters of Marriage and Family Counseling and Religious Education from Southwestern Seminary, and a Bachelor of Science in Business Management from the University of Alabama.

Christy Allen serves as Assistant Professor of Ministry to Women, and Faculty Co-Coordinator, Ministry to Women Programs at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. Professor Allen holds a ThM from Dallas Theological Seminary with a concentration in Bible Exposition and Christian Education, a Master’s in Christian Education from Jacksonville Baptist Theological Seminary, and a Bachelor of Music Education from Jacksonville University. She is currently working on a PhD in Applied Theology at MBTS.

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The Wooden Throne with Jeremy Treat (Doctrine of Atonement) Mar 20, 2025

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Dr. Jeremy Treat to discuss the doctrine of atonement.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

When and how did we learn about the atonement?
What is the event of the atonement? What does the word mean?
How is the cross an enthronement ceremony?
What do we gain when we view the atonement with this lens?
Is there a predominant theme in the atonement?
How do the atonement, resurrection, and ascension connect?
How have theologians talked about atonement using humiliation and exaltation?
How does that truth change the way we live?
What can be the hardest part of the atonement to begin to understand?

Helpful Definitions:

Atonement:
- At onement; two things that have been torn apart are being brought back together to be one again.
- How sin has separated us from God and what God has accomplished to make us at one with Him again.

Guest Bio:

Jeremy Treat (PhD, Wheaton College) is Pastor for Preaching and Vision at Reality LA, a young and thriving church in the heart of Hollywood, California. He is also an adjunct professor of theology at Biola University and is the author of several books including but not limited to; Seek First: How the Kingdom of God Changes Everything and The Crucified King: Atonement and Kingdom in Biblical and Systematic Theology.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

Mark 1:14-15, Mark 15, Philippians 2, John 12, Romans 8:17, Matthew 5-7
“The Crucified King” by Jeremy Treat
“Dominion” by Tom Holland
“The Atonement” by Jeremy Treat
“The Crucifixion” by Fleming Rutledge

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After the Fact: Why does Community Matter for Ministry Preparation? With Jason Allen Mar 18, 2025

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Kyle Worley is joined by Jason Allen to answer the question, “Why is community crucial for ministry preparation?”

Questions Covered in This Episode:

Why is community crucial for ministry preparation?

Guest Bio:

Dr. Jason Allen is the president of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. In addition to his role as president, he also serves as a professor for preaching and pastoral ministry. He is the author of a number of books including; Turnaround: The Remarkable Story of an Institutional Transformation and the 10 Essential Principles and Practices That Made It Happen. He posts essays on his website, jasonkallen.com, and hosts a weekly podcast, “Preaching & Preachers.”

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

For the Church Cohorts

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7-7-7 (Revelation 15-17) Mar 13, 2025

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are back in the book of Revelation to discuss chapters 15-17.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

We’ve been talking about cycles of 7 this season - what we are looking for here?
What's the point of Revelation?
What is this history showing us?
What is the song of Moses supposed to remind us of?
What about the sea?
What is the new song?
How else is this text pointing back to Exodus? (temple, bowls of wrath)
What or where is Armageddon?
Why is it important to not be naked?
Seventh bowl brings cosmic cataclysmic judgment?
Revelation 17 shifts focus to the Great Prostitute and the Beast - what is going on?
Why does Babylon have such significance?
How do the city of God and the city of man have an impact on the story of the Bible?
How are we meant to be encouraged by this portion of Revelation?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

Revelation 15-17, Revelation 14:3, Matthew 22:1-14, Romans 8, Leviticus 24:16, Genesis 11, Joel 3:12-16

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After the Fact: Lest We Drift - Two Departure Dangers From The True Gospel With Jared Wilson Mar 11, 2025

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Kyle Worley is joined by Jared Wilson to discuss his new book “Lest We Drift” and answer the question, what happens if we depart from the one true gospel?

Questions Covered in This Episode:

Why did you write “Lest We Drift: Five Departure Dangers from the One True Gospel”?
What are two of the five dangers?
What is the solution?

Guest Bio:

Jared C. Wilson serves as Assistant Professor of Pastoral Ministry, Author in Residence, and General Editor, For the Church. He is the author of a number of books including but not limited to Gospel Wakefulness, The Prodigal Church, The Pastor’s Justification, and Supernatural Power for Everyday People. He also serves as an elder at Liberty Baptist Church. He and Becky have been married for twenty-three years, and they have two daughters: Macy and Grace.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

2 Corinthians 3:18
“Lest We Drift” by Jared C. Wilson
The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill by Christianity Today

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Mere Christian Hermeneutics with Kevin Vanhoozer Mar 06, 2025

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by Kevin J. Vanhoozer to discuss his new book, “Mere Christian Hermeneutics.”

Questions Covered in This Episode:

Can you give our listeners a sense of your larger interest? What are you trying to accomplish in your body of work? What’s your goal as you write and teach?
What is hermeneutics?
What is the Bible? What is it meant to do?
What is mere Christianity? What’s a mere Christian hermeneutic?
What is the literal sense?
Is a mere Christian hermeneutic composed of biblical insight, theological truth, and/or transformation application? Focused on one over the other? Something entirely different?
How does a person, an individual bible reader/studier, look to cultivate this kind of approach? How do we read the Bible well?
How would you distinguish historical mere Christian reading from Christian sub-cultural reading of the scriptures?
How does the beatific vision of beholding God, shape the way we read and interpret scripture?

Helpful Definitions:

Hermeneutics: The principles and practices for understanding the Biblical text.

Guest Bio:

Dr. Kevin Vanhoozer is research professor of systematic theology at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School and the author of many books, including but not limited to: Faith Speaking Understanding, Hearers and Doers: A Pastors Guide to Making Discipleship through Scripture and Doctrine, and Mere Christian Hermeneutics.

He is theological mentor to the Augustine Fellowship of the Center for Pastor Theologians and Senior Fellow of the C. S. Lewis Institute for Discipleship. He is married to Sylvie (author of The Art of Living in Season and The Art of Living in Advent), has two daughters and one son-in-law.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

John 5:45, 2 Corinthians 3:18
“Drama of Doctrine” by Kevin J. Vanhoozer
“Mere Christian Hermeneutics” by Kevin J. Vanhoozer
“Remythologizing Theology” by Kevin J. Vanhoozer
“You are a Theologian” by Jen Wilkin and J T English
“Remember and Rehearse” by J.T. English
“Mere Christianity” by C.S. Lewis

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Beast Mode (Revelation 13-14) Feb 27, 2025

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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley continue their discussion on the book of Revelation by looking at chapters 13-14.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

What is Revelation?
Who is the beast? What about the sea?
How do we understand the dragon, the beast from the sea, and the beast from the earth?
What is your personal experience with the mark of the beast?
How are we supposed to understand the number of the beast?
How do we see the battle of the seed of the women vs. seed of the serpent?
Who is the lamb in Revelation 14?
Who are the 144,000?
What do the angels show up to do?
What about Revelation 14:12?
What other imagery and symbolism do we find?

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

Revelation 13-14, Deuteronomy 6:4-9, Genesis 3-4, Daniel
Knowing Faith Beauty and the Beast? (Revelation 12-13)
Deep Discipleship Program

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