Kathy Sullivan Explores

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Cold War Cat & Mouse - American Astronauts Meet Soviet Cosmonauts Sep 01, 2022

Show notes

As NASA’s best ambassadors, astronauts do so much more than just train and fly. They also do public appearances and media interviews around the country, in addition to occasionally being deployed on foreign soil to represent the United States. My first such foreign assignment came in the summer of 1985—but it turned out to have an unexpected, spy-novel-like dimension.

In this episode, you’ll hear about my first foreign assignment as an astronaut and the cat-and-mouse intelligence game between the United States and the USSR. I describe the growth of NASA’s space shuttle program in 1985 and the secret meeting we had during the Paris Air Show of that same year. I also discuss navigating sensitive conversations and highlight the importance of having an awareness of other peoples’ agendas.

“These were the Cold War years, of course, defined by the tense superpower standoff between the United States and the Soviet Union; the latter would not stand idly by as their chief adversary developed as novel and versatile a spacecraft as the shuttle.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● My first assignment to the Paris Air Show

● The progress of the space shuttle program in 1985 and the Cold War cat-and-mouse

● The first Soviet Space Shuttle mission and the people to pilot it

● Our secret meeting with the Russian delegation at the Paris Air Show

● The intelligence game between the United States and the USSR

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “You may never be a pawn on the intelligence chessboard, but it’s always worthwhile to navigate difficult conversations with rich awareness of the many agendas that may be in play, the part you play in the agenda of others, and what makes those other parties tick.” - Kathy Sullivan

● “The trick, then, is arming yourself with awareness: this will help you know how adversarial or collaborative the situation is likely to be, and give you the best chance of achieving your objectives.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

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What Dogs See, Smell, and Know with Alexandra Horowitz Aug 25, 2022

Show notes

Dr. Alexandra Horowitz is a cognitive scientist keen on understanding a dog’s mind. She is Professor of Nonfiction Writing at Barnard College, Columbia University, where she also teaches seminars in canine cognition creative nonfiction writing, and audio storytelling. In addition to teaching, Dr. Horowitz is a Senior Research Fellow and heads the Horowitz Dog Cognition Lab at Barnard. Her books, Inside of a Dog and Our Dogs, Ourselves, explore what it’s like to be a dog—and our relationship as humans to these lovable creatures.

Dr. Horowitz joins me today to discuss how dogs see and smell the world. She describes the extraordinary anatomy of dogs’ noses and how they smell in ‘stereo.’ She illustrates the relationship between humans and dogs. She discusses the history of dog breeding and explains why a dog’s breed doesn’t necessarily determine their personality and behavior. She also highlights humanity’s place in nature and shares her advice for people who have, or are thinking of having, dogs

“Dogs can be a lens through which we are reminded of the reality of all these non-human others around us.” - Dr. Alexandra Horowitz

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● The first time I adopted a puppy and how I came across Dr. Horowitz

● The young Alexandra Horowitz, how she became a lexicographer at Merriam-Webster, and her journey to becoming a scientist

● What led Dr. Horowitz to study cognition in graduate school

● Studying play behavior in dogs and the wonder and marvel of dogs’ noses

● How dogs perceive the world

● Our relationship with dogs and the many ways humans treat dogs as property

● The relationship between a dog’s breed and their behavior

● The history of purebred dogs

● Society’s perception on pitbulls and other maligned dog breeds

● The impact of spaying or neutering dogs

● Humans’ responsibility over dogs and how dogs help us be more empathetic

● The interconnectedness of beings in the world

Resources Mentioned:

● A Way with Words Podcast

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “Dogs are not just objects we consider property; they’re sentient beings who are meaningful in human life.” - Dr. Alexandra Horowitz

● “Dogs can bring out a lot of empathy in humans, automatically, in a way that’s hard to feel with other people..” - Dr. Alexandra Horowitz

Connect with Alexandra Horowitz:

● Alexandra Horowitz Website

● Alexandra Horowitz on Twitter

● Book: Inside of a Dog: What Dogs See, Smell, and Know

● Book: Our Dogs, Ourselves: The Story of a Singular Bond

● Horowitz Dog Cognition Lab

● Horowitz Dog Cognition Lab on Facebook

● Horowitz Dog Cognition Lab on Twitter

● Horowitz Dog Cognition Lab on Instagram

● Email: dogcognitionstudy@gmail.com

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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We're Just a Speed Bump Aug 18, 2022

Show notes

Astronauts spend months, even years, waiting for the day they get to fly. And when it’s their turn, they can feel on top of the world—but it certainly didn’t work that well on my third mission, STS-45. We were taken for granted, to say the least. We were but a speed bump on the road to another telegenic space mission.

But, dear explorer, there are a few insights from the experience you might ponder.

In this episode, you’ll hear about my experience before our flight for the STS-45 mission with Space Shuttle Atlantis. I explain what it means to be an astronaut “prime crew” member and describe how media buzz for the STS-49 overshadowed the STS-45 mission. I also share the friendly banter we had with the STS-49 crew and underscore what you can do whenever you feel undervalued or unappreciated.

“Being irked by people discounting you is quite natural, as is wanting to take them down a notch and show them they’re wrong. But if you decide to act on that, take some care with how you go about it.”

- Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● Becoming an astronaut prime crew member

● The ATLAS-1 laboratory aboard STS-45 Space Shuttle Atlantis

● The STS-49 mission and the media attention it garnered

● Why the STS-45 mission was considered boring in comparison to STS-49

● Our banter with the STS-49 prime crew and the lessons we can learn from it

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “Your identity is yours alone, and your worth is set by your character and deeds—not anybody else\'s words.” - Kathy Sullivan

● “Don’t let people who know nothing about you—whether TV journalists or faceless keyboard warriors—tell you or make you believe that you’re less than you are” - Kathy Sullivan

● “The truth is, you can’t be cavalier about any space flight, regardless of the PR appeal.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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A Home out of This World with Susan Helms Aug 11, 2022

Show notes

Lt. Gen. Susan J. Helms is Commander, 14th Air Force, Air Force Space Command and a NASA astronaut. Gen. Helms was selected by NASA in 1990, became an astronaut in 1991, and became NASA’s first US military woman in space when she joined the Space Shuttle Endeavour crew in 1993. Other missions she participated in include STS-64 in 1994, STS-78 in1996, and STS-101 in 2000. In 2001, Gen. Helms served as a crew member of the ISS Expedition 2and relocated to the International Space Station to live and work for over five months. While participating in the expedition, Gen. Helms, along with fellow flight engineer James Voss, conducted a spacewalk that lasted for eight hours and 56 minutes—the longest on record.

Lt. Gen. Susan J. Helms joins me today to share the details of living in the International Space Station—250 miles above the planet—and her experience being one of the first women to graduate from the United States Air Force Academy. She explains why engineering is a wonderful blend of creativity and math. You’ll also learn the principles of character and leadership that helped her rise to the rank of three-star general in the United States Air Force.

“It was absolutely freeing knowing that I didn’t have anything to worry about on Earth and could mentally move to space. The space station became my home.” - Susan Helms

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● The life of young Susan Helms

● The relationship between math and music

● How Gen. Helms became interested in becoming a US Air Force officer

● Preparing for the physical fitness test for the US Air Force Academy

● The male warrior culture and Gen. Helms’s first year at the US Air Force Academy

● Leadership insights Gen. Helms gained from her first year at the academy

● What led Gen. Helms to apply for NASA’s astronaut selection program

● Meeting astronauts Sally Ride and Richard Covey

● Gen. Helms’s impressions of NASA culture and office

● Her assignment at the International Space Station

● Her return to parent service after the International Space Station flight

● The power of asking questions

● Cultivating competence and how to handle the naysayers

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “Being someone of character even on bad days is the essence of leadership.” - Susan Helms

● “Always ask questions. Sometimes when they get above a certain rank, leaders don’t want to be viewed as someone who doesn’t have all the answers.” - Susan Helms

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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The New Era of Astronomy: from Hubble to James Webb Aug 04, 2022

Show notes

In November of 1990, Toby Goodman received a gift from his father for his 10th birthday. It was a telescope: an item with a purpose and capacity for evoking awe that no other toy had. It was no surprise that telescopes filled the shelves of toy stores in London: a few months before receiving the gift, Toby explains, the Hubble Space Telescope had launched, captivating the wonder of people from all walks of life.

On July 12, 2022, a new era in astronomy dawned. The first full-color images and spectroscopic data from NASA’s James Webb Space Telescope were released, capturing yet again the minds and imaginations of people the world over.

In this episode, you’ll learn about the history of space telescopes and what the images from the James Webb Space Telescope mean for humanity. We compare and contrast the physical attributes and functions of the Hubble and James Webb space telescopes. You’ll gain insight into the life and design expectancies of the space telescopes and how the Hubble has changed over the years. We also discuss the value of images from space telescopes and how they shape peoples’ perspectives about humanity’s place in the cosmos.

“Those specks aren’t stars. They’re galaxies—thousands of them in this little piece of sky you’ve always thought was empty.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● The contributions of Edwin Hubble to astronomy

● The Hubble Constant and how to figure out the distance of galaxies

● James Webb, his role at NASA, and the importance of honoring pioneers

● Comparing the physical attributes of the Hubble Space Telescope and the James Webb Space Telescope

● How the James Webb Space Telescope observes objects the naked eye can’t see

● The challenges of building a spacecraft

● The threads of continuity between the Hubble and Webb space telescopes

● How the first images from Hubble captured the popular imagination

● How the James Webb Space Telescope sees farther into the universe and further back in time

● How scientists decide where to focus the space telescopes

● The reason I wrote Handprints on Hubble

● A brief history of space telescopes and the problem of looking at the cosmos from the earth

● The ‘Endless Frontier’ report and how it shaped the American astronomical enterprise

● Nancy Grace Roman: NASA’s first Chief Astronomer and Mother of Hubble

● How the Hubble Space Telescope has changed since its launch

● The distance of the Hubble and Webb space telescopes from the earth

● The life and design expectancies of the Hubble and Webb space telescopes

● How to see the Hubble Space Telescope from the earth

● How to use the Hubble Space Telescope as an amateur astronomer

● The Hubble Ultra-Deep Field

● The value of astronomy to human lives

Resources Mentioned:

● You Should Do a Podcast about That

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “[The] telescope…had a purpose about it. With it came a built-in excitement of seeing faraway places that provoked dreams about what it was like to be an explorer in outer space.” - Toby Goodman

● “NASA’s job is to push back the frontiers of science and knowledge about the cosmos, the solar system, and our place in it.” - Kathy Sullivan

Connect with Toby Goodman:

● Podcast Network Solutions

● Narrow Podcasting

● Podcast: Podcast Business Coach

● Book: Narrow Podcasting: Make Profitable Connections and Grow your Business, Without Paid Ads, Sponsors, or Thousands of Listeners

● Podcast Network Solutions on LinkedIn

● Podcast Network Solutions on Facebook

● Toby Goodman on Instagram

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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I Serve At the Pleasure of the President Jul 28, 2022

Show notes

While my work with the NOOA was a complex and generally fun job, it was one that fully demanded full intensity. It left me pretty tired after four years. So, when I left the country’s preeminent climate and ocean agency in 2017, I planned to slow down—maybe travel some, enjoy the flexibility that comes with retirement, and have time to get a dog. I eventually got my pup and, for several years, did a pretty good job at saying no to claims for my time that didn’t inspire me. But everything changed when I received a call that opened with the words: “I’m calling on behalf of the White House.”

In this episode, I discuss my appointment to the PCAST—the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology. I explain why wildfires have gotten worse and describe the mega-fire I witnessed while flying over Australia during my first space shuttle mission in 1984. I share the responsibilities of PCAST, why it was established, and its current work on helping wildland firefighters. I also highlight how change takes time and underscore what it takes to tackle life’s most worthy endeavors.

“In my world, if the President asks you to serve the country, you just don’t say no.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● My appointment to the Presidential Council of Advisors on Science and Technology

● How I knew President Biden wanted me to serve PCAST

● PCAST’s history, functions, and why the agency is special to me

● How diversity helps PCAST tackle a wide array of topics

● President Biden’s tasks for PCAST

● Why wildfires have become a year-round problem globally

● PCAST’s work on wildfires and how to tackle complex issues

● How the President acts on the findings and recommendations of the PCAST report

● How the 2015 PCAST report on hearing aids led to the Medicare Hearing Coverage Act of 2021

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “None of the improvements we aim to foster will happen overnight. Change always takes time; and the more complicated the problem, the longer the road.” - Kathy Sullivan

● “The satisfaction is in knowing that you’ve made a difference in peoples’ lives, both today and tomorrow. For explorers like us, the journey, discoveries, and what they could mean for humankind are what it’s all about.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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The History of the American West with Patricia Nelson Limerick Jul 21, 2022

Show notes

Patricia (Patty) Nelson Limerick is a historian, author, lecturer, and teacher. She holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in American Studies from the University of California, Santa Cruz. She also completed her Ph.D. in American Studies at Yale University, where she also taught as a graduate teaching assistant. She served as an assistant professor at Harvard University from 1980 until she joined the University of Colorado in 1984, where she currently serves as a professor of history. One of the leading historians of the American West, Patty was awarded a MacArthur Fellowship in 1995 and, in 2016, was appointed as the Colorado State Historian and to the National Council on the Humanities.

Patty joins me today to discuss the role of historians in solving contemporary issues. You’ll hear her recount her memories as a student at UCSC. You’ll learn about how she became the official “Fool” of the University of Colorado and her journey to becoming a historian. She also describes her efforts to help young historians reach a wider audience and underscores how the issues of the 19th century are still present in the modern world.

“Western history runs continuously. The issues that had stirred the 19th century are still with us.” - Patricia Nelson Limerick

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● The conception of Patricia’s Limerick Pedestrian Diet piece

● Her life growing up in Banning, California

● Patty’s fondest memories of the University of California, Santa Cruz

● The Pass/Fail system at UCSC and the professors who influenced Patty

● Her journey to becoming a historian and the “Official Fool” of the University of Colorado

● The meaning and importance of the Shakespearean fool

● How Patty became one of the pioneering authors of the New American West

● Her road to teaching a Western American course at Harvard

● How she overcame her writer’s block while doing her dissertation

● Writing a book on the continuity of Western American history

● The three Cs of The Legacy of Conquest

● Founding the Center for the American West at the University of Colorado

● Applying history to contemporary issues

● How Patty is helping young historians reach a wider audience

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “The United States had chosen a different form of understanding its history: that it was a frontier of expanding opportunity and democracy.” - Patricia Nelson Limerick

● “History could be fully engaged as part of figuring out how we got into our conflicts and dilemmas and thinking better about them.” - Patricia Nelson Limerick

Connect with Patricia Nelson Limerick:

● Book: The Legacy of Conquest: The Unbroken Past of the American West

● Book: Desert Passages: Encounters with the American Deserts

● Email: patricia.limerick@colorado.edu

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Playing Global War Games Jul 14, 2022

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Does the daily news ever make you wonder how the government actually works? Civics classes used to teach us how our country’s laws and constitution work. Today, in the US, most students don’t have a single civics class in school. What amazes me is not how so few people know how the government works, but how few seem curious about how it works—despite how much it impacts lives. There are so many things we can learn about other countries’ governments, and we can apply those lessons to ourselves.

In this episode, I discuss what drove my interest in civics and the lack of civic education in US schools. I describe how many people aren’t curious about how the government works. I also share the time I played a global war game in the US Naval War College, discuss what I learned from playing the simulation, and explain how to apply these lessons to everyday life.

“Own your role and your responsibility at the moment. Play your part well, and you’re sure to be invited back—probably with a promotion.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● What drove my curiosity about civics and how countries make decisions

● Watching two momentous events in politics and world affairs as a 12-year-old

● How The Making of a President and the Cuban Missile Crisis impacted me

● My work as Chief Scientist at NOAH

● Playing a global war game

Resources Mentioned:

● Book: The Making of the President 1960by Theodore White

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “The scary moments of the Cuban Missile Crisis made me realize how the workings of national governments could affect my life and my whole world.” - Kathy Sullivan

● “Step up to the responsibility of deciding the content and delivering the information, whether the topic is what the President should do on the world stage, or why an investor should back your project.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Dressing for Space with Amy Ross Jul 07, 2022

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Amy Ross is an advanced spacesuit designer at NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston. She is the daughter of astronaut Jerry Ross—who has set two US records by flying in space seven times and conducting nine spacewalks—and Karen Ross, a dietician who worked with shuttle crews. Amy completed her Bachelor’s and Master’s in Mechanical Engineering at Purdue University while simultaneously participating in NASA’s Cooperative Education Program. One of the world’s leading experts in spacesuits, Amy works at the cutting edge of NASA’s enterprise to build new spacesuits for the Artemis expeditions to the moon and future flights to Mars.

Amy joins us today to discuss spacesuit technology design and development. You’ll hear about what it’s like to have an astronaut as a father and why she chose her career path. She describes her experience studying at Purdue and doing internships at NASA. You’ll also learn what it takes to be a great spacesuit engineer and discover the value of storytelling in any career.

“When you’re signing off to send a piece of your spacesuit hardware on a mission, you know that lives matter—and you’re making sure that you’re bringing them home safely.” - Amy Ross

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

Amy’s background and what it was like to have an astronaut as a father
Her early interests as a child and how she chose a career in the space industry
Why you don’t have to be a hardcore math lover to enter STEM careers
How Amy’s interest and skills in the liberal arts brought a different aspect to her studies in engineering
The variety of engineering roles and careers
Why I switched from Liberal Arts and Languages to STEM
The value of storytelling and marketing skills in any career
Why Amy chose to study at Purdue for her undergraduate
The cooperative education program at Purdue and Amy’s internships at NASA
Amy’s path to spacesuit technology development
Her experience working with veteran spacesuit designer, Joe Kosmo
Designing spacesuits for different uses
Commercializing spacesuits and the Artemis program
Field analog testing and Amy’s experience with NASA’s Desert RATS
SpaceX spacesuits and how they’re different from the suits Amy works on

Our Favorite Quotes:

“That’s one of the great joys of working at NASA—everybody’s there because they want to be there and they understand what we’re doing and the gravity of it.” - Amy Ross
“You can’t be a good spacesuit engineer if you haven’t been in a suit doing this work.” - Amy Ross

Connect with Amy Ross:

Amy Ross on LinkedIn

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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The Princess and the Space Shuttle Jun 30, 2022

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While I have never met the Queen of England, I did have a brush with British royalty during my career at NASA. In 1989, when news spread that a British princess wanted to visit NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston—where I was based—for her grand tour of the US, it caused a lot of excitement in my world. Royal visits to the United States are rare, but royal visits to the NASA Houston base are a lot rarer.

Today, you’ll hear about the time a colleague and I gave a tour of the Full Fuselage Trainer (FFT) for Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York. I describe the FFT—a full-sized replica of the Space Shuttle orbiter—and its features. I explain who the “Potty Fairy” is and what it’s like to poop in space. You’ll also learn why astronauts need to be a combination of many things.

“We opened the hatches on the floor to show her the tanks and fans and filters below. You’d have thought we revealed a magical realm.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

The visit of Sarah, Duchess of York, to NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston
The features of the full-sized replica of a Space Shuttle in the Houston base
Planning a tour of the Space Vehicle Mockup for the Duchess of York
“The Potty Fairy” and the world’s only $6 million-dollar toilet with seat belts
The coolest thing about pooping in space
What the Duchess of York thought about her tour at the Johnson Space Center

Our Favorite Quotes:

“Everyone of us astronauts needs to be a combination of scientist, cook, maintenance engineer, and house cleaner.” - Kathy Sullivan
“In orbit, the large windows in the ceiling of the cockpit would feel like the windows in the halls of a glass-bottom boat, allowing us to watch the earth go by beneath us.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

Spotify I Stitcher I Apple Podcasts I iHeart Radio I TuneIn I Google I Amazon Music.

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