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From Australian Bus Tours to Global Explorer Yachts Jun 01, 2023

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Glen Moroney is an entrepreneur and the owner, operator, and CEO of Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours. At its inception in 1986, Scenic began offering tours to the Great Ocean Road in Warrnambool, Australia, and expanded into providing extensive land journeys throughout Australia and New Zealand. Under Glen’s leadership, Scenic has grown into a global cruise line that offers hundreds of extended touring programs to exotic, domestic, and international destinations. Scenic has also built the Scenic Eclipse, the world’s first discovery yacht that allows guests to experience the magnificence of Antarctica like never before.

Today, you’ll hear about Glen’s journey from being a college dropout and bus tour operator to being the CEO of a shipbuilding company and owner of 22 luxury vessels. He explains how he turned around a small hotel in Warrnambool without a formal education in the tourism industry. He describes the beauty of Warrnambool and how the region brought out the traveler in him. He discusses the beginnings of Scenic and his forays into river cruising and shipbuilding. You’ll also hear about his forecast for the expedition cruising market and gain insight into the complexity and wonder of ships and shipbuilding.

“We climbed up a steep glacier that went up from sea level to over 2,000 meters with ice caps that went as far as the eye could see. There’s no way, unless you’re an explorer, that you’re going to see that in any cruise ship.” - Glen Moroney

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● Glen Moroney’s youth and how he became a shipbuilder and the admiral of 22 river cruisers

● Why Glen disliked his time at university and eventually dropped out

● His first dive into business and entrepreneurship

● The first time Glen got bitten by the travel bug

● How Glen started selling tours without a formal education in the tourism industry

● The Free Independent Traveler Public Tours and the beginnings of Scenic

● How Glen became involved with river cruising

● Taking “no” for an answer and taking risks during uncertain times

● Glen’s baptism of fire into shipbuilding

● Listening to feedback and how Glen brings the vision of a ship to life

● Scenic’s audience model and expert expedition team

● Scenic’s submersibles and helicopter flights in Reykjavik

● The future of expedition cruising

● How the pandemic has changed people’s perception of cruising

● The complexity and wonder of ships and shipbuilding

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “When the ship sails the first time, it can get quite emotional. When you get a ship like this into service, you get a huge sense of relief. There’s some joy there, but the overwhelming feeling is relief.” - Glen Moroney

● “You look at an office building and you’d think it’s a complex build, but it’s nothing compared to a ship.” - Glen Moroney

Connect with Glen Moroney:

● Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours

● Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours on LinkedIn

● Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours on Instagram

● Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours on Facebook

● Scenic Luxury Cruises & Tours on Twitter

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

In this podcast, you can explore, reflecting on lessons learned from life so far and from my brilliant and ever-inquisitive guests. We explore together in this very moment from right where you are--spaceship not required.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Visit my website at kathysullivanexplores.com to sign up for seven astronaut tips to improving your life on earth and be the first to discover future episodes and learn about more exciting adventures ahead!

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Being in the Moment May 25, 2023

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When was the last time you watched people at a sporting event, ceremony, or concert—having the experience of a lifetime, yet mainly holding their phones or cameras up to film it all? It’s as if capturing pictures and videos is more valuable or important than the experience itself, and so they live everything through their camera screens. While certain moments in our lives prompt us to reach for our phones or cameras to capture that unfolding event and immortalize it into a visual memory, doing so comes with a cost. It takes us out of the actual moments—out of fully living the experience.

In this episode, you’ll hear about the value of fully immersing yourself in the present. I share what I learned from reading The Inner Game of Tennis and from playing a detective video game. I also reflect on returning to the curiosities of our eight-year-old selves and how our lives might be enriched more by being fully in the moment.

“Be here, now. Put your phone down and take all your surroundings in through every one of your senses. How richer will your life be if you can resist the screen and be fully in the moment?” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● Living life through screens

● Why performing theater companies ask the audience not to film or record shows

● Going back to our eight-year-old selves

● The challenge to explore with a sense of play

● The sense of safety and security in reminiscing bygone days

● How I learned to see without judgment by playing a video game

Resources Mentioned:

● Book: The Inner Game of Tennis: The Classic Guide to the Mental Side of Peak Performance by W. Timothy Gallwey

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “Explore with a sense of play—of freedom. Be your eight-year-old self again, shut off the self-talk, and just be. Just do.” - Kathy Sullivan

● “Be here, now—not in the past, not in the future, but genuinely interested in and absorbing where you are now, who you’re with, and taking it all in without an opinion.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Successfully Building and Repairing the Hubble Space Telescope with Sue Rainwater May 18, 2023

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Susan Rainwater is the former Chief of the EVA, Robotics, and Crew Systems Operations Division at NASA and a linchpin in the Hubble Space Telescope repair mission. After graduating from Georgia Institute of Technology with a Bachelor of Industrial Engineering degree, Sue served at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center in the late 1980s. She then came to the Johnson Space Center in Houston to work with the Hubble Space Telescope under the Mission Operations Directorate prior to the STS-31 deployment mission. Sue later played such a pivotal role in the first Hubble servicing mission that they brought two ladders into mission control when the time came to hang the crew plaque at the end of the mission. It was the first, and possibly only, time that the two co-leaders of the spacewalking team hung the plaque together—one of the highest honors in NASA flight control.

Today, you’ll hear Sue describe her memories of being a bookish kid from Michigan studying in the United Kingdom and the culture shock she experienced upon returning to the United States. She explains how hands-on building projects from her father and her move to the South to study became the first steps in her journey to NASA. Sue also highlights the Herculean effort around Hubble’s first servicing mission and describes how visits to Home Depot contributed to the building and repairing success of the Hubble Space Telescope.

“We had the greatest jobs. We got to work with brilliant people and brilliant minds. We were challenged every day, and every day was different.” - Sue Rainwater

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● Sue’s family background and early childhood in Michigan

● Her life in high school and path to Georgia Tech

● How her father influenced her interest in engineering

● Sue’s first role and responsibility at NASA

● The NASA Marshall Space Flight Center and what it was known for

● The Neutral Buoyancy Laboratory and Sue’s experience in water tank simulators

● What it was like to completely imagine a tool that did not exist before

● Sue’s first visits to the Hubble Space Telescope and cranking its solar arrays

● Her experience working as a flight controller at the Johnson Space Center’s mission control

● What it takes to calm the engineer sitting at a console in mission control

● Sue’s best memories from her time in Houston and life after NASA

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “Start with something you’re familiar with, adapt it, then modify it.” - Sue Rainwater

● “When you go out there and see the real vehicle, with all the real electrical cables and multi-layer insulation in place, you get a full appreciation of it and think that this is even more complex than you realize.” - Sue Rainwater

Connect with Sue Rainwater:

● Sue Rainwater on LinkedIn

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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The Small Self Effect May 11, 2023

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“Awesome” is used so often these days—at least in the US—that it has almost lost its meaning. It seems that it hardly has a bigger impact than saying “Oh, that’s nice.” But, for astronauts, the truly awesome experience of seeing the Earth from space with our own eyes is transformative—an experience that catalyzes the profound shift in the way we think about ourselves, our lives, and our home planet Earth. In 1987, Frank White coined the term “overview effect” to describe this experience. But there’s something with the “overview” label that never sat well with me and I couldn’t point out why—until an article titled The ‘Small Self’ Effect and the research it referred to caught my attention.

In this episode, you’ll learn about the small self effect and how the experience of looking at Earth from orbit profoundly transforms astronauts. I outline the history of Frank White’s overview effect. I describe how awe triggered the small self in me while I was in space. I also discuss how psychologists define awe and underscore how being awestruck can elicit feelings of belonging and hope that are critical to forming the cooperation and collaboration needed to form and sustain social groups—from families and communities to countries and humankind.

“‘Feeling small, blissfully overwhelmed, more connected to others, and filled with the desire to do good towards others are the common themes in every astronaut’s account of their experience of looking at the Earth from orbit.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● What “awesome” means to astronauts

● Frank White’s Overview Effect

● What “awe” means to psychologists

● The small self effect and how awe may have a vital social function

Resources Mentioned:

● The Atlantic | The ‘Small Self’ Effect by Shannon Stirone

● Awe, the Small Self, and Prosocial Behavior

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “The vast panorama out my window triggered a feeling of awe unlike any I have ever known. That’s what shrunk my sense of self and heightened my awareness about our collective identity and fate and made me want to use my experience for good.” - Kathy Sullivan

● “Be filled with that blissful awe. Shift with the small self, understand our shared fate, and care more deeply about each other.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Uncovering Hidden Figures with Margot Lee Shetterly May 04, 2023

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Margot Lee Shetterly is a non-fiction writer. Her book, Hidden Figures: The American Dream and the Untold Story of the Black Women Who Helped Win the Space Race, tells the story of African-American women mathematicians who helped provide NASA with the raw computing power it needed to dominate the heavens. After a career in investment banking and media, Margot moved to Mexico with her husband and founded Inside Mexico, an English-language magazine, while writing Hidden Figures. In addition to her work as an author, Margot is the founder of The Human Computer Project, an endeavor dedicated to recovering the names and accomplishments of all of the women who worked as computers, mathematicians, scientists and engineers at NACA and NASA from the 1930s through the 1980s.

Today, you’ll hear about Margot’s journey in writing Hidden Figures. She describes her childhood in Hampton, Virginia, growing up surrounded by engineers and scientists and shares her experience witnessing the 9/11 attacks while living in New York City. She explains how she happened upon the book idea and how her awareness of the women in Hidden Figures—Katherine Johnson, Dorothy Vaughan, and Mary Jackson—came to the fore. She discusses the importance of having an objective view from the outside and how living in Mexico allowed her to write Hidden Figures. You’ll also gain insight on Margot’s experiences writing Hidden Figures—from interviewing Katherine Johnson to getting the book published—and hear her advice for young people at the early stages of their careers.

“The advances that allow us to get on an airplane—without thinking that it’ll take off, fly, and land safely—happened because these women and their colleagues were doing the numbers for decades.” - Margot Lee Shetterly

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• Margot’s background and life growing up in Hampton, Virginia

• Her interest in business at a young age and path to investment banking

• A brief history of NASA

• Margot’s interest in business at a young age and her path to investment banking

• Her life in New York and her experience in foreign exchange trading, Meryll Lynch, and start-ups

• Her adventures founding a magazine in Mexico with her husband

• How living in Mexico allowed Margot the space to write Hidden Figures

• What inspired the idea behind Hidden Figures and how Margot began writing the story

• How interviewing mathematician Katherine Johnson led Margot to Dorothy Vaughan, Mary Jackson, and the other Black computers at NASA’s West Area

• How long it took Margot to finish writing Hidden Figures

• The two kinds of writers and why Margot is a combination of both

• Historical accuracy of the film Hidden Figures and how similar it is to Margot’s book

• The process of creating a book proposal and why it’s similar to forming a business plan

• What Margot wanted to show through her book Hidden Figures

• Margot’s favorite travel destinations and travel bucket list

• Her current book project and the joys of writing Hidden Figures

Resources Mentioned:

• NASA Johnson Space Center Oral History Project

• NASA History Division - Oral History

• Book: They Made America: From the Steam Engine to the Search Engine: Two Centuries of Innovators by Harold Evans

Our Favorite Quotes:

• “The thing about a book proposal is that it’s a business plan. You have a book idea, find a publisher to take it and sell it to them, explain why people will read it, and have a sample of the product.” - Margot Lee Shetterly

• “Make failure your friend, especially when you’re young and ambitious. There’s a stigma that’s still attached to failure, but it’s a good teacher; you get some of your best lessons from it.” - Margot Lee Shetterly

Connect with Margot Lee Shetterly:

• Margot Lee Shetterly Website

• Book: Hidden Figures: The American Dream and the Untold Story of the Black Women Mathematicians Who Helped Win the Space Race

• Margot Lee Shetterly on LinkedIn

• Margot Lee Shetterly on Twitter

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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The New Wild West Apr 27, 2023

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There’s a ton of content in the media about what some people are calling the “new space age”: the era in which space is becoming more democratized—and more commercialized. At a minimum, media coverage about this new space age has been about Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and space tourism. While it’s clearly an exciting time to be in the business of space or to start a career in the space sector, peeling back all that fancy, sizzly coverage reveals a ton of unresolved questions you may not be hearing about unless you’re a true space geek. There are so many issues around it that we might as well just call the new space age the “New Wild West.”

In this episode, I explore a few of the many issues surrounding the new space age. I explain what mega constellations are and how artificial satellites are impacting the work of grand-based astronomers. I also share my hopes for the future and underscore why we all need to come together as we enter this new space age.

“My biggest hopes are that the countries and the companies will consider more than just short-term financial rewards; that they give some thought to not just what can be gained by their efforts, but also what might be lost if they don’t take care.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

• The number of active satellites orbiting the Earth

• The lack of orbital traffic management schemes and space treaties

• Issues around mining the moon and asteroids

• NASA’s Artemis Accords

• My hopes for the future of the new space age

Our Favorite Quotes:

• “There’s a lot of money and effort pouring into these new space possibilities, but everyone’s in an ‘act now, think later’ mode, as is often true when a bright new prospect is glimpsed.” - Kathy Sullivan

• “My highest hope is that the sentiment that was written on the Apollo 11 module will be fulfilled in this new era—that plaque read: ‘We came in peace for all mankind.’” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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The Flight of New Shepard 21 with Victor Vescovo Apr 20, 2023

Show notes

Victor Vescovo is a private equity investor, retired naval officer, undersea explorer, and space tourist. He is the founder, Chief Executive, and Chief Submersible Pilot at Caladan Oceanic, a private marine research organization. As an adventurer, Victor has reached the North and South Poles, climbed the Seven Summits, and visited the deepest points of all the Earth’s oceans during the Five Deeps Expedition of 2018-2019. In 2022, Victor flew to space as a space tourist aboard New Shepard—a reusable suborbital launch vehicle developed by Blue Origin—as part of the Blue Origin NS-21 mission, and was afterward regarded by Forbes as the “First to Climb Everest, Visit Ocean’s Deepest Depth, and Fly to the Final Frontier.”

Victor joins me today to share his experience flying to space onboard New Shepard. He describes what it was like to go beyond Mach 3 and explains why it’s important not to focus on the interiors of the rocket capsule upon reaching space. He discusses his childhood dream to become an astronaut and shares his thoughts on finding one’s life path. Victor also highlights the value of being a good person and offers advice to young people dreaming of flying to space.

“When people ask what’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen, I have to admit, looking down from space, that it’s the curvature of the Earth with the atmosphere. Nothing beats down that experience.” - Victor Vescovo

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● What made Victor want to go to space

● The importance of personal connection and being a good person

● How his sense of space adventure has evolved in his adult years

● The Corn Ranch Launch Site at Van Horn, Texas

● The training and psychological-medical screening involved to become part of the NS-21 mission

● How Blue Origin tries to craft camaraderie and diversity

● The days leading to the flight of New Shepard

● Why Blue Origin was strict on bringing items aboard New Shepard

● Weight, propulsion, gravity, and safety

● The overview effect and how the NS-21 mission impacted Victor’s life

● The descent of New Shepard

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “I thought it would be like going really high up on a plane, but no, this was materially different. The Earth was below you, and there was a thin layer of atmosphere that you could see; there’s a yellow sun on a black background. It told you you’re in space. And floating.” - Victor Vescovo

● “We all find our own path; I eventually found my way to space, though it took longer than expected. You just have to hold on to those dreams and, hopefully, someday circumstances will provide the opportunity.” - Victor Vescovo

Connect with Victor Vescovo:

● Caladan Oceanic

● Caladan Oceanic on YouTube

● Caladan Oceanic on Instagram

● Caladan Oceanic on Facebook

● Victor Vescovo on LinkedIn

● Victor Vescovo on Twitter

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Out of Your Bubble Apr 13, 2023

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I started dreaming about living abroad when I was around 12 years old, figuring that I would achieve that by attending a university that had a junior-year abroad program. This dream was realized as I became an exchange student at the University of Bergen in Norway, where I had the opportunity to learn another language through an immersive summer program that involved living on a small farm at the heart of the country, near the cabin of one of our teachers. But it wasn’t just a new language that I learned from that experience—it taught me something fundamental about Norwegian culture and social ethos that made me more self-aware, self-observant, and tuned into the country I’d live in for the next year and a half.

In this episode, I discuss Janteloven and what I learned about the social culture of Norway. I describe how I dreamed about living overseas as a kid and what attracted me to Norway. I differentiate Norwegian and American culture and discuss the social codes prevalent in Scandinavian cultures. I also highlight the importance of getting yourself out of your own bubble and underscore what I love most about traveling.

“We all live in bubbles of one sort or another, usually without being aware of them. You have to get out of them to get to know and understand new people, places, and cultures.” - Kathy Sullivan

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● Reading Snow Treasure and other things that inspired me to live in Norway

● My experience joining the University of Bergen’s immersive summer program in Oslo

● A stark difference between the American and Norwegian cultures

● The frontier mentality and America’s individualist culture

● The Janteloven and how Norwegians preserve social harmony and stability

● The Lagom and the value of ensuring everyone’s basic needs are met

Resources Mentioned:

● Book: Snow Treasureby Marie McSwigan

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “What I love most about traveling is exactly that—trying to merge as much as I can into the new place, to feel what it’s like and understand where people are coming from. It’s like putting on a costume and inhabiting a new character.” - Kathy Sullivan

● “The Janteloven is decidedly not about knocking down the tall poppy, but boils down to the simple point that if we are to live together in harmony, we need to consider each other’s feelings.” - Kathy Sullivan

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Creating Diverse and Inclusive Pathways to Space with Ché Bolden Apr 06, 2023

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Ché Bolden is a US Marine Corps veteran and President and CEO of The Bolden Group. Founded in 2017, The Bolden Group is a consortium of accomplished leaders dedicated to fostering international collaboration to make life better for all of humanity. Ché served for over 26 years in the US Marine Corps, where he also served as an International Affairs Program Coordinator and Weapons and Tactics Instructor. After concluding his service with the Marine Corps, Ché founded two technology companies, Inter Aria and Sapient.ONE. He is currently the President of Ario and leads the organization’s strategy and vision. Ché holds a Bachelor of Science degree in History from the United States Naval Academy, a Global Master of Arts from Tufts University’s Fletcher School, and a Master of Arts degree in Strategic Studies from the Marine Corps War College.

Ché joins me today to share the history behind his name and describe his life before moving to Houston, Texas with his family. He explains how witnessing his father’s mission to service the Hubble Space Telescope opened his eyes to the true meaning of service. He discusses his transition to the private sector after retiring from the US Marine Corps and highlights The Bolden Group’s mission to push the boundaries of the space industry. He also outlines what it would take to create diversity, equity, and inclusion in the space industry and offers advice to young people starting their careers.

“Create opportunities for disadvantaged and underrepresented communities to get an equal place at the table. We won’t realize the fullest potential of space unless we get more people in the discussion.” - Ché Bolden

This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

The young Ché Bolden and what it was like to be a part of the Bolden family
“Flashbulb” memories and the beginnings of Ché’s life as an explorer
How the mission of his father, Charles Bolden Jr., to service the Hubble Space Telescope taught Ché the meaning of service
Ché’s role models and what inspired him to attend the US Naval Academy and become an aviator
His challenges and struggles at the US Naval Academy
Why the presence of other people is essential to one’s success
Ché’s foray into the private sector and his work with The Bolden Group
The Bolden Group’s mission to empower servant-leaders and foster diversity, equity, and inclusion in the space industry
Pushing the boundaries of traditional space
The difference between a meritocracy and a “mirror-tocracy”

Resources Mentioned:

Why diversity should not be the exception | Ché Bolden | TEDxPearlStreet

Our Favorite Quotes:

“If things are going bad for you, go and find someone else having a worse day you’re having and be there for them.” - Ché Bolden
“Other people are important to your success. Contrary to what some prolific mega-billionaires want to tell people, nobody does anything by themselves.” - Ché Bolden

Related Content:

Connect with Ché Bolden:

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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Creating Diverse and Inclusive Pathways to Space with Ché Bolden Apr 06, 2023

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This week on Kathy Sullivan Explores:

● The young Ché Bolden and what it was like to be a part of the Bolden family

● “Flashbulb” memories and the beginnings of Ché’s life as an explorer

● How the mission of his father, Charles Bolden Jr., to service the Hubble Space Telescope taught Ché the meaning of service

● Ché’s role models and what inspired him to attend the US Naval Academy and become an aviator

● His challenges and struggles at the US Naval Academy

● Why the presence of other people is essential to one’s success

● Ché’s foray into the private sector and his work with The Bolden Group

● The Bolden Group’s mission to empower servant-leaders and foster diversity, equity, and inclusion in the space industry

● Pushing the boundaries of traditional space

● The difference between a meritocracy and a “mirror-tocracy”

Resources Mentioned:

● Why diversity should not be the exception | Ché Bolden | TEDxPearlStreet

Our Favorite Quotes:

● “If things are going bad for you, go and find someone else having a worse day you’re having and be there for them.” - Ché Bolden

● “Other people are important to your success. Contrary to what some prolific mega-billionaires want to tell people, nobody does anything by themselves.” - Ché Bolden

Related Content:

● Charlie Bolden on Pathways to Space

● The Life of a Visionary with Charlie Bolden Part 1

● The Birth of the New Space Age with Charlie Bolden Part 2

● Two Funny Astronauts with Mike Massimino and Garrett Reisman

Connect with Ché Bolden:

● The Bolden Group

● Sapient.ONE

● Ario

● The Bolden Group on LinkedIn

● The Bolden Group on Instagram

● The Bolden Group on YouTube

● The Bolden Group on Twitter

● Ario on LinkedIn

● Ario on Twitter

● Sapient.ONE on LinkedIn

● Ché Bolden on LinkedIn

Spaceship Not Required

I’m Kathy Sullivan, the only person to have walked in space and gone to the deepest point in the ocean.

I’m an explorer, and that doesn’t always have to involve going to some remote or exotic place. It simply requires a commitment to put curiosity into action.

Welcome to Kathy Sullivan Explores.

Don’t forget to leave a rating and review wherever you get your podcasts!

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