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They followed in the footsteps of their father, dedicating their lives to careers in education. On this episode of the Supercast, we meet four sisters who recently retired after spending a combined 100 years in the classroom. It is a century of work among siblings who made a big difference in the lives of students throughout Jordan School District. Audio Transcription Anthony Godfrey:Hello, and welcome to the Supercast. I'm your host, Superintendent Anthony Godfrey. They followed in the footsteps of their father, dedicating their lives to careers in education. On this episode of the Supercast, we meet four sisters who recently retired after spending a combined 100 years in the classroom. It is a century of work among siblings who made a big difference in the lives of students throughout Jordan School District. We are here at Westvale Elementary to interview four sisters. One of whom has retired, three are retiring this year, and all have worked for Jordan School District for a long time. So I'm gonna ask them each to introduce themselves. Margaret Chandler:I'm Margaret Chandler and I am teaching at West Hills Middle School, and I'll have 24 years in with the district. Evelyn Marse:I'm Evelyn Marse and I'm the one that is already retired. But I have 40 years in and I finished up at Riverton High School. Pennie Lovato:Pennie Lovato. I am retiring with 40 years and I am at Herriman High School. Cathy Sullivan:Cathy Sullivan. And I'm at Westvale Elementary right here. I've only put in 15 years with the Jordan District. Anthony Godfrey:Now, Marilyn Richards turned me on to this story and she calls you the Quilter sisters. Why is that? Evelyn Marse:That's our maiden name. Anthony Godfrey:Oh, the Quilters. Oh, very nice. Yes. And how does she know all the Quilter sisters? Pennie Lovato:She taught me in junior high at West Jordan Middle School. 7th grade PE classes. Anthony Godfrey:She told me about a remarkable seventh grade PE student that she taught. That must have been you Pennie. Pennie:I'm sure it was. Anthony Godfrey:I have no doubt. How did the rest of you know Marilyn? Cathy Sullivan:I went to school with one of her sisters. And that's kind of how I knew her. Evelyn Marse:I actually had Marilyn as my ninth grade PE teacher at West Jordan Middle. And I've worked with Marilyn when she was a vice principal and when she was a principal. Margaret Chandler:Well, and then when I got out of college, my first teaching position was at West Jordan Middle and she was a teacher there. And so we taught together for seven years while I was there. Anthony Godfrey:Wow. So, you guys know her in lots of different ways. And she has been my boss in various ways. She was principal when I was an assistant principal at Jordan High School. And now of course she's on the Board of Education and decides whether I get my next contract every time, along with the other six Board members. So, we all have a close connect with her. That's awesome. Tell me each of you a little bit about where you've taught and what your education journey has been in Jordan District, and in other districts Margaret Chandler:I've always been in the Jordan School District. Started at West Jordan Middle School and taught there for seven years. And then I was having a family and I stopped and tried to see if I could run a preschool business to stay home with my little ones. I did that for about five years and that just didn't pan out. So then I got back into the district and taught at Indian Hills Middle School when they were still part of our district for five years. And then I jumped out again and ran a preschool business very successfully for 15 years. And then I jumped back in again and went to West Hills Middle School. Kim Baker was the principal at that time and hired me on. And so I've just been there ever since. Evelyn Marse:Okay. So boy, I think about it, I started back in 1980. I always tell people, when I talk about all the schools I've been at, I would get like the seven year itch. I would just go, I just need to look at something different, different windows, different students, different walls, something. So I taught seven years at Midvale Middle, and I had the opportunity to teach with my dad. That was, that was one of the best opportunities ever at Midvale Middle. Anthony Godfrey:I was principal at Midvale Middle years after that. Evelyn Marse:Years after that, I was gonna say, yes. Anthony Godfrey:So what did you teach? And what did your dad teach? Evelyn Marse:Dad taught math and I was special ed. I've always been special ed. So yeah, I mean, it was fun and challenging. My dad was old school. He didn't believe such things as learning disabilities. He thought that they were just play classes. I finally convinced him, you know, when he was struggling with a student. Why don't you just refer the student? Let's test him, let's work. And he started going through that process. And I would tell him about the testing and where the student was at and he'd go, ‘oh, that would make sense why he is not getting it.’ I mean, he started to understand special ed. So that was, it was such a growing experience for us. So that was, that was fun.After that I went to Mount Jordan Middle, I think I spent eight years there. And then Marilyn hired me at South Jordan Middle. I loved it there, but an opportunity came up to go to Genesis that was by the prison for the Youth Correctional Program. And I jumped at that because I wanted something so different and that was exciting. That was way exciting. So I just spent five years there and then I went to Riverton, finished out. That's where I stopped. I went, I don't think I wanna move one more time. So I finished out my last 12 years at Riverton. Anthony Godfrey:And you retired, how many years ago? Evelyn Marse:I retired in 2019 and then I took a year off. And then they called me back and said, ‘we don't have enough online special ed teachers. So would you be willing to teach outta your basement for a year?’ So I did. It was challenging. And I have to say, I would do that one again. Anthony Godfrey:Really? Evelyn Marse:That was such a learning experience. Anthony Godfrey:Okay. Well, I'll keep a note of that. Evelyn Marse:There you go. Pennie Lovato:Keep her in mind. Okay, so I started out teaching elementary and also it's always been special ed. And I decided that after six years of elementary, that I felt like I needed something more. So then I tried a self-contained classroom at Jordan High, the old Jordan High. Did that for a couple of years and decided that wasn't my gig. So then I transferred to Hillcrest High and did a Resource setting and felt like that was my niche. And so I stayed there for, I don't know, 19, 20 years at Hillcrest High, then transferred to Riverton High and then Herriman High. Anthony Godfrey:Were you ever at Riverton at the same time together? Evelyn Marse:We were there together. And darn that finally came down that said we couldn't teach together any longer. Anthony Godfrey:That nepotism rascal got in the way. Evelyn Marse:Because I mean, come on, we had different last names. Pennie Lovato:Although we did teach right next door to each other. Evelyn Marse:We don't look alike. Pennie Lovato:No, uh huh. No. Anthony Godfrey:So what was it like teaching next to each other? Were you able to kind of share a little bit? Evelyn Marse:Oh my gosh, it was wonderful. It was like teaching with dad. It was like, this is such a great experience. Pennie Lovato:It was wonderful to have some of the same students and go and brainstorm, you know, what will work? How can we reach the student? So it was fun to collaborate. Anthony Godfrey:So you're not only all educators, but you've also been able to be educators together. That's exciting. And you're retiring from Herriman High School, okay. Cathy Sullivan:I taught 43 years ago at Santaquin Elementary. I was determined, I wanted my kindergarten and that was it. They were the ones that offered me a kindergarten. They were kind of booming then. And so I had a large number, 60 plus kids come through my two kindergartens and I was the only kindergarten teacher. Loved it, just literally loved it. Then I married and we moved up here to this valley. I taught half a year at East Midvale Elementary and then had some health issues and had to quit as the family started coming on. I didn't get back to teaching until my oldest daughter said, ‘Mom, you're wasting your education.’ And I went, oh my gosh, you sound just like your grandpa. And so I did what I needed to and I came back. I interviewed all over this district and I had just, you know, you go by that gut feeling. And I thought, oh my gosh, this is Westvale. This is where, you know, I started in West Jordan right here. So I said, okay, I'll interview with Kathe Riding. And Kathe Riding said I walked in and I said, you know, ‘I was the first sixth grade class here.’ And she says, ‘Really? Well, how does this school feel?’ And I said, ‘It feels great. It feels like I'm coming home.’ And over the last 15 years, I would not have gone anywhere else. I loved it. Taught kindergarten, and then Brenda Anderson asked me to go to first grade. And then she asked me before she left, come back to kindergarten and I was like, ‘Oh yes. Oh yes. Of course.’ Anthony Godfrey:So you got to end at Westvale in kindergarten. Cathy Sullivan:Yes. And I'm finally going to graduate kindergarten. Anthony Godfrey:Well, congratulations. Wow. It's been a long journey. Now you said 43 years? Cathy Sullivan:No, just it was 43. Anthony Godfrey:No, I right. just since Santaquin. Yeah. Cathy Sullivan:Yeah, since Santaquin. Anthony Godfrey:So 43 years. That's the 70s, right? Wow. Just checking. Just had to put a number to that. Now we're here. Cathy Sullivan:I'm a little bit old. Anthony Godfrey:Because we're here at Westvale, I actually have this binder that has a picture of you in your class. What year was that? What year was that? Cathy Sullivan:I don't recall. Anthony Godfrey:1967- 1968. Does that sound familiar? Cathy Sullivan:I remember my teacher, Ms. Olsen. Anthony Godfrey:Yeah. Cathy Sullivan:She was actually in our ward together. Anthony Godfrey:Well, let's take a look there. Cathy Sullivan:Okay. I am right there on the top row. Anthony Godfrey:Do you look familiar there? Look at that. How about that? Cathy Sullivan:I know, short hair still. Anthony Godfrey:Short hair, yeah. Do you remember any of these people? Cathy Sullivan:Actually I did. Anthony Godfrey:Tell me about them. This one right here. Anthony Godfrey:Yeah, what about him? Cathy Sullivan:He was Mr. Peterson's son. Anthony Godfrey:Big man on campus? Cathy Sullivan:He was, he was. He loved basketball and everything. And then there was a group of us that when Mr. Peterson was giving us our math times tables and we were trying to beat each other's time. Oh my gosh. So competitive. And I had no idea I was that competitive. It was crazy. Anthony Godfrey:Wow. So did you beat him out? Cathy Sullivan:Only once or twice. He had, I mean, it was his father. Anthony Godfrey:Yeah. Fair enough. He had a bit of advantage. Cathy Sullivan:He had inside help. Yeah. And then Evelyn is in there someplace. I did see Evelyn. Anthony Godfrey:Now wait, what grade would you have been in Evelyn? Let’s take a look. Evelyn Marse:I would've been, third grade? Fourth grade? Anthony Godfrey:Third grade. Alright, let's turn back. Evelyn Marse:Okay. Wait, wait, wait. These people look really familiar. Anthony Godfrey:We're just leafing through those class pictures for those who are listening. Evelyn Marse:There I am. Anthony Godfrey:Oh, there she is. Look at that. Evelyn Marse:Oh my word. Anthony Godfrey:Is that a sweater vest? Evelyn Marse:No that, no, it was a dress. Anthony Godfrey:Oh, it's a dress. Evelyn Marse:You know that made it look like there was a little shirt under it. Yes, I have the groovy glasses going too. And look, my hair does kind of look the same. We all got pixie cuts. Anthony Godfrey:Yeah. Looks good. Is Pennie in here? Evelyn Marse:Pennie, you should be in here. You were just a couple. Cathy Sullivan:And Margaret should too. Evelyn Marse:So you would, if I was fourth, you would've been first. Pennie:Second. Evelyn Marse:No, second. Pennie:Second. There I am, up at the top. Anthony Godfrey:Oh, there she is. Pennie:I got my little sailor dress on. Anthony Godfrey:Your sailor dress. Evelyn Marse:I was gonna say she didn't have the same haircut. She had a little pony tail. Pennie:I had a pony tail. Anthony Godfrey:Do you remember the sailor dress? Pennie:Oh yes, I do. Anthony Godfrey:Yeah, it is funny how we remember the outfit.When we come back more from the sisters and their combined century in education. Break:Hello, I'm Tracy Miller, President of the Jordan School District Board of Education. There are seven members on the Board of Education, one in each voting district. We are committed to listening and serving our constituents as we work together to provide the best possible learning environment for the students we serve. As members of the Jordan Board of Education, we believe it is our duty and responsibility to: increase student achievement; provide parents with the choices they deserve and desire; recognize and reward quality in educators; empower school leaders through policy governance and professional development; and communicate with the public, legislators, business leaders, cities, and parents. We invite you to get to know the Board member who represents you in your voting district, and to please join us at our monthly board meeting held on the fourth Tuesday of every month. Or listen from the comfort of your home, on our live stream. For more information and to find your Board member, visit jordandistrict.org. With parent and community input and support we will continue our work to give students every opportunity to succeed in Jordan District schools and beyond. Thank you for your support. We look forward to seeing you soon. Anthony Godfrey:What made you all retire at the same time? The three of you? What was the impetus for that happening? Who's responsible? Because we're losing you all at once. Margaret Chandler:Well, I'm finally old enough, 65. I felt that I can start getting insurance, another place. So, I was carrying the insurance for my husband. So just hanging in there and just getting enough years in. Anthony Godfrey:And Pennie, is it just coincidence that you decided to retire at the same time? Pennie Lovato:I just felt like I had reached 40 and that was my max. Magical number. Anthony Godfrey:Fair enough, yeah. I'd say four decades, you've earned it. Cathy Sullivan:I didn't know if I ever wanted to retire to be very honest with you. And then my husband said ‘Now, Cathy, we're going to retire together and we'll have lots of fun gardening and whatever.’ And I'm like, 'oh boy.' And so he retired this year in March, the end of March. And so I'm following suit like he asked. I'm like, 'you know what? This is a good year to go out on. It really is.' Evelyn Marse:I thought it was because I'd made retirement look so wonderful. Anthony Godfrey:Oh yeah, yeah. That's right. Now you've forged the path, so what is your advice? Evelyn Marse:Oh my gosh. Anthony Godfrey:Retire for a year and then go back to work? Evelyn Marse:Yeah, you might need a break. You might need a break from retirement. I think I need a break from retirement. Anthony Godfrey:Okay. Fair enough. Yeah. Evelyn Marse:Might have another year in me. But you know, we were looking at this. We kept adding up years, and adding up years…
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