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Art Market Reality Check: Crisis or Opportunity? Apr 15, 2025

In this riveting episode, Hilde and Magnus dive deep into the latest UBS/Art Basel report by Dr. Clare McAndrew, revealing a stark reality: the art market has plummeted to 2009 levels. But don't hit the panic button just yet!

While Magnus brings his signature practical wisdom to navigate these turbulent waters, Hilde unleashes her unconventional, forward-thinking strategies that could transform crisis into opportunity. Together, they explore:

• The unexpected parallels between economic indicators and art market performance

• Creative survival strategies for galleries in a downturn

• Revolutionary approaches for artists to thrive despite market conditions

• Fresh perspectives on market adaptation that might just be crazy enough to work

Whether you're an artist, collector, or gallery owner, this episode offers both sobering insights and innovative solutions for reimagining success in today's challenging art market. Join us for a candid conversation that balances hard truths with hopeful possibilities—and maybe even a few of Hilde's characteristically bold predictions that might just reshape how we think about art market resilience.

Essential listening for anyone invested in the future of the art world. Prepare to be challenged, inspired, and possibly even a little shocked!

JERRIFIED Feb 25, 2025

Magnus Resch and Jerry talk about LA Art Week and all the fun little things going on in our psycho art world.

To Love an Artist is to Love a Special Weirdo Feb 04, 2025

In this episode, Hilde Lynn Helphenstein and Magnus Resch discuss the beautiful nebulous of what it feels like to truly love and connect with artists which in turn can amalgamate into a real, meaningful art collection.

"Would Andy Warhol Have Liked Me?" Dec 22, 2024

Adam Lindemann stands as one of the art world's most dynamic forces, seamlessly bridging the realms of collecting, entrepreneurship, and gallery ownership through his renowned Venus Over Manhattan gallery. His trajectory from finance to becoming a pivotal figure in contemporary art has been marked by bold decisions and prescient insights, perhaps most notably captured in his influential book "Collecting Contemporary," where he turned the tables by interviewing other major collectors. His unique position as both a collector and gallerist has given him an invaluable dual perspective on the art market's mechanics and evolution.

I was absolutely thrilled to have Adam join me on Art Smack, where he brought his characteristic candor and deep market knowledge to our discussion. During our engaging conversation, he shared fascinating insights about the current state of the art market, his collecting philosophy, and his vision for the future of traditional galleries in an increasingly digital age. One of the most memorable moments was when I couldn't resist asking him if Andy Warhol would have liked me, given Adam's personal connection to the iconic artist. His ability to articulate complex market dynamics while maintaining an authentic passion for art made him an exceptional guest, offering our audience a masterclass in how to navigate the contemporary art world with both business acumen and genuine appreciation for the medium.

Memes & Movies Dec 15, 2024

Great news: WE FIXED OUR AUDIO SITUATION on Art Smack .

This week Jerry dragged Matt to come on the podcast to not talk about art. Instead they discuss all of the things around the art i.e. The Substance, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Luigi Mangioni, "subtle foreshadowing" videos, those creepy drones all over the east coast, movies that opened our eyes as teenagers, and our collective hangover from GenX'ers like Peaches and Le Tigre.

This is not a hard hitting episode about art. Opposite. Its a very dumb episode. Enjoy.

The Miami Affair + The Digital Detox Dec 11, 2024

In a plot twist that shocked absolutely no one, the art world managed to keep spinning without its favorite commentator as Jerry Gogosian emerged from a 49-day digital sabbatical. Breaking her 18-year streak, Jerry (aka Hilde) skipped the glittering chaos of Art Basel Miami Beach and its satellite spectacles – proving that sometimes the best art move is no move at all.

Enter Magnus Resch, Jerry's trusted confidant and art market savant, who arrives bearing tales from the trenches. With his signature analytical prowess and insider knowledge, Magnus catches Jerry up on the wheeling, dealing, and occasional art-world reeling she missed while offline.

The conversation takes a delightfully cerebral turn as Jerry and Magnus explore the radical concept of "slow content consumption" (also known as reading books), dive into The Renaissance (the original art influencers), and discuss various consciousness-expanding practices – from yoga to Qi Gong – that don't involve staring at installation art through an iPhone screen.

The episode culminates in Magnus challenging Jerry to reflect on what truly draws her to the art world – now that she's had time to miss the beautiful circus she usually chronicles. A refreshingly honest conversation about art, authenticity, and the unexpected joys of disconnecting from the digital matrix.

Baby We Are back! Oct 01, 2024

On this episode we have Magnus Resch back on to discuss the very real art world recession and how we can adjust our thinking in these trying times.

Powerhouse Arts Jul 03, 2024

On this week's bonus Art Smack, Jerry and Annie chat with Eric Shiner, the President of Powerhouse Arts in Brooklyn. Shiner talks about the non-profit's mission to support artists by connecting them with a network of fabrication professionals and educators. He explains how Powerhouse Arts aims to empower artists and foster the local creative community. The trio also gush over their shared love of Andy Warhol and his influence on the art world and their art careers. It's a fun, insightful episode that gives a glimpse into the important work Powerhouse Arts is doing to help artists thrive.

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School is Out for Summer Jun 20, 2024

The Art World is heading into its summer slumber! While artists dive into their residencies or studios gear up for the fall, the Art World Elite are living it up on their mega yachts off the coast of St. Tropez. Zoe and Chloe will be "working" poolside in Hydra, enjoying cocktails and socializing until mid-July. Everyone's bound to make a stop in the Hamptons at some point...
But don't worry, we'll be back in the fall with a dazzling new look and sound! In the meantime, get excited for this episode of Art Smack with Jerry, Annie, and returning co-host Matthew Capasso as they dive into this week's art news and review Basel Summer Camp (Art Basel). Enjoy!

Micro Economics, but make it Art! Jun 06, 2024

This week Jerry and Annie speak to Joseph Foudy, a distinguished Clinical Professor of Economics at NYU. He provides them with a lesson in micro economics with art as the basis. A unique perspective, he gives an understanding of market dynamics, pricing strategies, and the economic principles at play within the art world.

The Icy Gays May 30, 2024

In this episode Jerry and Annie interview the Icy Gays (@theicygays). Art collectors from North Dakota, Rob and Eric Thomas-Suwall discuss how they fell in love with art, their taste's and how they came to collect the 250 pieces of contemporary art that make up their collection. With a focus on emerging women and queer artists their collection is currently on display in 'Full Disclosure' at The Plains Museum, ND.

TEFAF: New York City's Beauty Queen of Art Fairs May 16, 2024

In this episode, hosts Jerry and Annie discuss the fair that screams quiet luxury with their guest Tarka Russell as they gush over all the beauty of last week's affairs. They also discuss The Independent and stand-out art works they saw that day. They also discuss their mother's contribution to their love of art in honor of Mother's Day. Then they fall down a rabbit hole of other trade shows or fairs they'd be interested in attending including Private Jet Shows, Yacht Shows, and gun shows. And finally, Jerry teaches the girls about the subcultural phenomenon of The Gathering of the Juggalos.

"The Shed is Dead" May 10, 2024

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In this episode Jerry Gogosian and Annie discuss the lackluster edition of Frieze NYC and what can be done about it. They discuss the new crop of potential Art Stars coming out of Yale's prestigious MFA program and the ladies question the merits of groupthink at Art Schools. And finally, Annie also gives Jerry a crash course in becoming the Bridezilla.

You Love Capitalism & Capitalism Loves You Apr 21, 2024

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In this free-flowing episode, Annie & Jerry reflect on the dynamics of work and feminism, discussing the subsequent challenges faced and the effectiveness of second-wave feminism in light of persistent wage disparities and the increased burden of dual-income households. Then we move on to the idea of "prepping" for the apocalypse, the evil computers that live inside Teslas, and the end-of-day vibes NYC has been giving off.

A&J also reflects on their journey from pursuing art to embracing the business world, feeling conflicted about their choices and the loss of joy in their artistic practice. Jerry recalls advice from a professor predicting the challenges of sustaining an art career and feeling torn between artistic fulfillment and financial stability.

And finally, we take one of the voice messages one of our listeners left. We felt their question would potentially hit home for many of our listeners.

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Magnus Resch "How to Collect Art" Apr 11, 2024

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In this compelling episode of Art Smack, hosts Jerry Gogosian and Annie Taylor sit down with the renowned art market expert Magnus Resch, whose latest literary offering, "How to Collect Art," has been stirring up the art world with its insightful revelations. Resch, known for his analytical approach to the often opaque and mystifying art market, shares the floor with the hosts to delve into the groundbreaking research that underpins his book. Drawing from a wealth of data, Resch's methodology shines a light on the art world's inner workings, offering a rare glimpse into the dynamics that drive art collection. The discussion navigates through his interactions with art world insiders, revealing how these conversations have enriched his understanding and subsequently, the invaluable advice he offers in his book.

As the conversation unfolds, Resch elaborates on how "How to Collect Art" serves as a crucial resource not just for budding and established collectors, but also for artists striving to comprehend the market for their creations. By employing data to demystify the art collection process, Resch's insights promise to empower potential collectors with the knowledge to make informed decisions. Simultaneously, artists listening in will find guidance on navigating the market, understanding their audience, and strategically positioning their work. With Jerry and Annie probing into the nuances of Resch's research and findings, this episode of Art Smack offers a deep dive into the symbiotic relationship between art creation and collection, highlighting the significance of transparency and data in cultivating a vibrant and accessible art ecosystem.

Get the Picture Apr 01, 2024

In this episode, we're excited to welcome a very special guest: Bianca Bosker, a New York Times Bestselling Author, here to dive into her latest book, "Get the Picture." Join us as Bianca shares her fascinating journey into the art world, a journey she compares to infiltrating the mob. Together, we'll explore the complex relationship we have with art, for better or worse, and engage in a spirited debate on the true essence of taste.

Bianca Bosker is the New York Times bestselling author of Cork Dork and, most recently, Get the Picture: A Mind-Bending Journey among the Inspired Artists and Obsessive Art Fiends Who Taught Me How to See. A contributing writer at The Atlantic, she has also written for publications such as The New Yorker, The New York Times, and The Wall Street Journal. Her work has been recognized with awards from the New York Press Club, the Society of Professional Journalists, and more, and has been included in The Best American Travel Writing. She lives in New York City.

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Why Do Artists Get Paid Last? Mar 26, 2024

In episode 2, Annie and Jerry discuss the Cape Town cleanse, swag looting in First Class, and the drunk dialing on Phenergan. Despite facing health issues during the trip and not being able to fully explore the art scene as planned, Jerry shares anecdotes about her experiences, including some of the incredible galleries and art works she encountered while in Cape Town.

Jerry and Annie also address an important issue in the art world regarding the fair treatment and timely payment of artists. Upon hearing her (formerly) favorite Cape Town galleries has a reputation for stiffing their artists, the gals discuss the mechanisms that put artists in a vulnerable position to get stiffed by galleries and reflect on the need for proper contracts and legal protection for artists before exhibition sales.

Additionally, the ladies touch on the controversy surrounding luxury retailer Hermes and their alleged practice of reserving Birkin bags for high-spending customers comparing and contrasting the Art Market to the luxury retail market.

And finally, Jerry takes the opportunity to rip apart Art Speak, again, and Annie talks about the "out of touch" Whitney Biennial currently on view in New York.

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Welcome back to Art Smack Season 2! Mar 10, 2024

In this episode of Art Smack, Jerry Gogosian and her new co-host Annie Taylor kick off season two with a lively and somewhat chaotic introduction, setting the tone for an episode filled with personal anecdotes, insights into the art world, and a candid discussion about the intersections of art, business, and ethics. Annie brings a rich background in art history and business from her studies in Louisiana, experiences working at an auction house and Art Basel's satellite fair, and her current role in Fine Art Logistics.

As the episode unfolds, does a play-by-play of Frieze Los Angeles, Felix, and all of the parties surrounding last week's celebrations. Annie and Jerry also delve into more serious topics, including the departure of the previous co-host Matthew, who left the art world to pursue more lucrative endeavors, ahem, finance. This episode also introduces our transition adding a video component to the podcast & adding new levels of awkward to the podcast :) The discussion takes a deeper dive into the challenges and pressures of pursuing an MBA, with Jerry sharing personal struggles and revelations about sunk costs, risk aversion, and the stark realities of legal and ethical business boundaries compared to the art world's more fluid norms. This episode's narrative weaves through tales of personal growth, a surprising opportunity with United Talent Agency, and a commitment to making strategic financial decisions as an artist. The episode encapsulates a the blending of art and commerce, and the importance of embracing change and opportunity without losing sight of one's roots and values in the art community.

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Schools Out For Summer Jun 25, 2023

Art Smack is taking a break! See you guys in a few weeks for Season 2.

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Episode 29 - Art Corporation Inc Jun 18, 2023

On this episode, Jerry and Matt explore the actively underway corporatization & professionalization of the art industry and follow that up with questions related to the apparent artist class structure, and we try to suss out the answer to “Who is the author of an abstract gestural painting if the artist has assistants painting it?” Spoiler alert: We don’t come up with a conclusive answer…Buckle up! We love the way the art world writes itself.

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Episode 28 - The Great Gadsby Jun 11, 2023

In this episode, Jerry & Matt discuss Henry Gunderson’s solo presentation at Perrotin Gallery, the Lisa Schiff affair has a juicy update, and finally the Brooklyn Art Museum’s summer blockbuster “Pablo-matic” by Hannah Gadsby and the latest discourse around feminist cringe culture. Buckle up! It’s Spargel season.

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Episod 27 - You Betcha Jun 05, 2023

In episode 27, Matt & Jerry travel to America’s Midwest to eat hot dish, learn a new dialect of American English, and explore true “stealth wealth” i.e. hundreds and hundreds of miles of farmland. They also pivot over to a conversation of upcoming Art Basel (Basel) as Jerry prepares to make the annual pilgrimage. And finally, they discuss the recent Sotheby’s acquisition of the Met Breuer building. “For heaven sake’s you’re darn right you’re gonna love it. Oh yeah, you betcha.”

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Episode 26 - F-ing The Deal May 29, 2023

On this episode, Matt & Jerry lament the perfect ending to the perfect prestige television series “Succession,” (JUMP TO 26:25 TO SKIP SPOILERS), speculate further on the The Lisa Schiff Affair, and break down the new US Supreme Court ruling against Andy Warhol. Appropriation, whhhaaaat? Put your tin foil hats on and brace yourself, this is going to be a good one.

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Episode 25 - Chardy Party May 21, 2023

In this episode, Matt & Jerry wrap up Frieze week, the soft auction results, and continue to delve into the nebulas of the Lisa Schiff saga. Thanks to our sponsor NY State public records for making this episode a real “Chardy Party.” Pour yourself a glass of Sancerre while we spill the tea. Buckle up. As always this is going to be a good one.

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Blake Gopnik's Article on the Andy Warhol Supreme Court Decision

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Episode 24 - Know That I Love You May 14, 2023

Jerry recaps her time at the world's premiere art fair, TEFAF. She discusses her oyster-filled adventures and what social faux pas Jim from the Office committed during the event. Matt breaks down the auction results at Christie's. Then the pair unpack the unfolding art legal drama - The Lisa Schiff Affair.

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Episode 23 - Recess is Over May 07, 2023

Jerry and Matt are back after their two-week recess and ready to take on the topics that matter most!

First, a fruitless lamentation on Alex Israel, the Alec Monopoly of the Blue Chip World. (Ivanka and Jared collect him.) What is TEFAF, and why do free oysters mean so much to the over-served art community? What does the word semiotics mean? How did Jerry feel when her invitation to the Met Gala got lost in the mail? We cover what the best party will be during Frieze NYC 2023…And finally, “What is the Stellate Ganglion Block?” Buckle up because this episode could change your life.

Read Jerry's latest article in Elephant: Art Moves Forward While Fashion Seems Stuck in the Mud

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Episode 22 - Ho Jae Kim Apr 16, 2023

In this episode, Matt sits down with New York-based contemporary artist Ho Jae Kim. Matt and Ho Jae discuss their time collaborating at Christie's, public bathrooms, the culinary arts, and the need to rethink the literary classic Don Quixote. Oh, and some art stuff too.

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Harper's Exhibition

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Episode 21 - Is The Art World Better Than Hollywood? (Alex DiPersia Makes A Great Case) Apr 09, 2023

In this episode, Jerry and Matt are joined by collector and curator Alex DiPersia to discuss, among many things, his unwavering love of beauty, following his intuition, leaving his career in Hollywood for the Art Game, and curating his first exhibition in Paris with artists Basquiat and A.R. Penck.

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Mentioned:

ADZ Gallery

Oliver Bak

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Episode 20 - Hiba Schahbaz Apr 02, 2023

In this episode, Jerry and Matt are joined by NYC-based artist Hiba Schahbaz.

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Episode 19 - Conversations about Suing, FOMO, & Money Mar 27, 2023

Jerry and Matt give their takes on Art Basel Hong Kong (an art fair they didn’t go to) and discuss Jerry's decision to pursue an MBA…but first, Gwyneth Paltrow takes half an hour outside of her grueling court case to talk Ruth Asawa, art dupes, and how reading is overrated.

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Episode 18 - Caleb Yono Mar 19, 2023

In this episode, Jerry and Matt are joined by Chicago-based contemporary artist Caleb Yono.

In this conversation, we explore Caleb's prolific work, story, and experiences navigating her career as a gender queer artist: experiences that are often overlooked in the traditional Art World, a place that still seems to uphold outdated values when it comes to the treatment of our trans and gender queer colleagues.

This conversation was as inspiring as it was hard to hear at times, but must be heard. We were honored by Caleb’s candor, and we hope that not only will you give this episode a listen, but that you’ll also take the time to explore her incredibly abundant work as an artist.

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Episode 17 - Can Artists Survive This Recession? Mar 12, 2023

In this episode, Jerry and Matt discuss episode 1 of MTV's The Exhibition (1:19) and unpack the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank and what it means for the art world (39:52)

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Episode 16 - Stefan Simchowitz Mar 05, 2023

In this episode, Jerry and Matt are joined by collector, dealer, and patron: Stefan Simchowitz.

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Episode 15 - Freezing at Frieze Feb 26, 2023

In this episode, Jerry and Matt analyze the upcoming London auction SZN, how auctions affect young emerging artists, and chronicle their Frieze LA adventures.

Artists mentioned in the episode:

Ireland Wisdom

David Howe

Jianan Hou

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Episode 14 - Los Angeles Starter Pack Feb 13, 2023

In this episode, Jerry and Matt discuss the upcoming MTV-produced Art reality TV Show (3:42), and unpack Frieze LA 2023 and the evolution of the Los Angeles Art Scene (26:17)

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Episode 13 - Art Investing: For Dummies Feb 05, 2023

In this episode, Jerry and Matt recap some of the recent absurd Op-Eds coming from our favorite news outlets lately (1:44), and discuss the past, present, and future of Art as an investment class (10:40)

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Episode 12 - Cinema: The Better Art? Jan 29, 2023

IT'S OSCAR SEASON! In this episode, Jerry and Matt discuss congressional Republicans' latest inquiries into Hunter Biden's gallery exhibition (1:36) and cover this year's Academy Award for Best Picture nominees (14:39)

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Episode 11 - Are You Afraid of AI? Jan 22, 2023

In this episode, Jerry and Matt recap their trip to the "theatuh" and discuss The Collaboration, a play about the Warhol-Basquiat relationship (2:05). Then, the duo addresses the robot in the room, "art" made by artificial intelligence (26:51).

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Episode 10 - Blake Gopnik Jan 15, 2023

Blake Gopnik, one of the most important voices in art criticism today, joins the show.

Blake is an art critic, journalist, and contributor at the New York Times. Prior, Blake was the chief art critic at The Washington Post and critic at large at Artnet. He is also the author of Warhol, the definitive Andy biography published in 2020.

On this episode, we discuss the legacy of Andy Warhol (3:35), the future of Fine Art, aka fArt (20:43), Art that shook us to our cores (28:30), Museums and climate protests (34:32), and where art criticism is headed in the 21st century (46:09).

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