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It Could Happen Here

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it’s evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

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Dividing the World, Pt. 2: Externalization feat. Andrew Jun 25, 2025

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James and Andrew continue their discussion on different ways of splitting up the world, and what they tell us about the way their proponents see the world.

Sources:

David Graeber - Debt: The First 5000 Years

Karl Polanyi - The Great Transformation

Immanuel Wallerstein - The Modern World System

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Dividing the World, Pt. 1 feat. Andrew Jun 24, 2025

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James and Andrew discuss different ways of splitting up the world, and what they tell us about the way their proponents see the world.

Sources/Links:

Rome: https://europe.factsanddetails.com/article/entry-1087.html

China: Rome, China, and the Barbarians Ethnographic Traditions and the Transformation of Empires by Randolph B. Ford

European Colonialism: https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt1mf71b8.7?seq=1

Edward Said - Orientalism

Benedict Anderson - Imagined Communities

John Lewis Gaddis - The Cold War: A New History Samuel Huntington - Clash of Civilisations

Immanuel Wallerstein - The Modern World System

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/elia-j-ayoub-the-periphery-has-no-time-for-binaries

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A Medical Perspective On Protest Safety Jun 23, 2025

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In a rare ICHH and House of Pod Joint Episode, James is joined by Miriam, Kaveh, and Dr. Richard Ferro to discuss street medicine, police use of irritants and less-than-lethal weapons and how to keep each other safe.
Links:

https://lapdonlinestrgeacc.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/lapdonlinemedia/2021/12/Directive_17.1_40mm_Less_Lethal_Launcher_Oct-.pdf

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1310-live-like-the-world-is-dy-85677729/

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CZM Book Club: Two More Stories by Leo Tolstoy Jun 22, 2025

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Margaret reads you two more stories about anticapitalism and religion.

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Anti-Vax America: The Complete Series Jun 21, 2025

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This special edition of ICHH Weekly compiles the complete Anti-Vax America series by guest host Steven Monacelli.

- Viral Texas

- Anti-Vax Genealogy

- God's Will

- Soft Eugenics

- Could It Happen Here?

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Sources/Links:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2025/05/20/measles-updates-texas-cases-pass-700-as-illness-reported-in-30-states/

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-measles-outbreak-in-west-texas-and-beyond

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/2025/03/24/data-these-charts-show-how-measles-vaccination-rates-declined-in-texas-public-schools/

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2025/03/24/too-good-for-this-earth-parents-of-child-who-died-in-measles-outbreak-say-no-to-vaccine/

https://www.verywellhealth.com/measles-outbreak-texas-11682808

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/data-research/index.html

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8828106/

https://www.latimes.com/newsletters/la-me-ln-essential-california-20190507-story.html

https://slate.com/technology/2025/04/measles-cases-epidemic-worst-case-vaccine.html

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/rfk-jr-plandemic-funding-1235173801/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1200696/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8802588/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1123944/

https://time.com/7205900/anti-vaccination-movement-history/

https://historyofvaccines.org/getting-vaccinated/vaccine-faq/vaccination-exemptions

https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/timeline-of-vaccination-mandates

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-68106-1_2

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/rfk-jr-plandemic-funding-1235173801/

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-02-02/rand-paul-on-vaccines-most-of-them-ought-to-be-voluntary-

https://time.com/5175704/andrew-wakefield-vaccine-autism/

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-evidence-on-vaccines-and-autism

https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/the-bombastic-19th-century-anti-vaxxer-who-fueled-montreals-smallpox-epidemic/

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/plague-the-red-death-strikes-montreal-feature

https://www.cascadepbs.org/2020/05/seattle-always-had-anti-vaxxers-even-during-smallpox

https://www.cascadepbs.org/mossback/2025/02/history-vaccine-skepticism-1920s-seattle-rfk-jr

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/03/texas-measles-outbreak-death-family/681985/

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2025/03/24/too-good-for-this-earth-parents-of-child-who-died-in-measles-outbreak-say-no-to-vaccine/

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2013/09/measles-outbreak-megachurch-kenneth-copeland-vaccines/

https://www.npr.org/2013/09/01/217746942/texas-megachurch-at-center-of-measles-outbreak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUGuJkVgXNA

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kenneth-copeland-blow-coronavirus-pray-sermon-trump-televangelist-a9448561.html

https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2025/03/04/west-texans-mennonites-at-center-of-measles-outbreak-choose-medical-freedom-over-vaccine-mandates/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/12/measles-vaccinations-texas-pastor-revels-in-schools-state-low-rates/81975293007/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19602363/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11700278/

https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/educational-resources/timelines/eugenics

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/politics/abbott-migrant-transport-order-covid

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/racist-covid-infection-theories-arent-just-wrong-they-are-deadly/

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/measles-maha-and-soft-eugenics/

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/maha-and-soft-eugenics-revisited-the-autism-tsunami-dr-oz-and-your-patriotic-duty-to-stay-healthy/

https://www.nsdoku.de/en/groups/educational-program/the-nazi-society-of-exclusion

http://www.worldofinclusion.com/res/qca/Lest_We_Forget.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20250213085155/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/19/anti-vaxxers-try-rewrite-history-truth-nazis-vaccination-not/

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/07/health/hhs-cdc-vaccines-autism

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/05/01/nx-s1-5383172/rfk-jr-placebo-vaccine-testing-studies

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9577438/

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/04/10/1168141163/the-dream-of-wiping-out-polio-might-need-a-rethink

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20250427/Measles-could-return-to-endemic-status-if-US-vaccination-rates-fall-further.aspx

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/13/health/polio-vaccine-outbreaks.html

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Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #21 Jun 20, 2025

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The gang discuss Israeli attacks on Iran, tragedies at Trump’s military parade and the No Kings Protests, the sale of public lands, and the Supreme Court ruling on trans healthcare for minors.

Sources:

https://hellgatenyc.com/brad-lander-detained-by-federal-agents/

https://www.wilderness.org/articles/blog/congress-making-more-250-million-acres-public-lands-available-sale

https://subscriber.politicopro.com/eenews/f/eenews/?id=00000197-7b7e-dfde-abd7-7fffacc70000

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/01/30/2025-02009/protecting-the-united-states-from-foreign-terrorists-and-other-national-security-and-public-safety

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/09/nx-s1-5427998/trump-travel-ban-countries-immigration-enforcement

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/after-two-day-manhunt-suspect-charged-shooting-two-minnesota-lawmakers-and-their-spouses

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Anti-Vax America: Could It Happen Here? Jun 20, 2025

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As anti-vax beliefs become increasingly widespread, and vaccination rates drop, the greater the risk of some sort of massive viral outbreak or the return of horrific illnesses such as polio. This episode will explore what could happen if anti-vax beliefs spread further into United States politics and culture.

Sources:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9577438/

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/04/10/1168141163/the-dream-of-wiping-out-polio-might-need-a-rethink

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20250427/Measles-could-return-to-endemic-status-if-US-vaccination-rates-fall-further.aspx

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/13/health/polio-vaccine-outbreaks.html

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Anti-Vax America: Soft Eugenics Jun 19, 2025

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Anti-vaccination rhetoric is often framed by proponents as a sort of medical freedom, the ability to decide what one wants to do with their own body. It’s an argument that can appeal to crunchy granola types and religious zealots alike. But there is also a darker side to this rhetoric that reveals an embrace of eugenic ideas among anti-vax advocates, whose preferred “herd immunity” approach to outbreaks subordinates the interests of older people, those with disabilities, and members of minority groups to others. This episode explores the history of eugenics as it relates to vaccines and unpacks how modern anti-vax politics tends towards eugenic responses to viral pandemics.

Sources:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19602363/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11700278/

https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/educational-resources/timelines/eugenics

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/29/politics/abbott-migrant-transport-order-covid

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/racist-covid-infection-theories-arent-just-wrong-they-are-deadly/

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/measles-maha-and-soft-eugenics/

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/maha-and-soft-eugenics-revisited-the-autism-tsunami-dr-oz-and-your-patriotic-duty-to-stay-healthy/

https://www.nsdoku.de/en/groups/educational-program/the-nazi-society-of-exclusion

http://www.worldofinclusion.com/res/qca/Lest_We_Forget.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20250213085155/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/11/19/anti-vaxxers-try-rewrite-history-truth-nazis-vaccination-not/

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/07/health/hhs-cdc-vaccines-autism

https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/05/01/nx-s1-5383172/rfk-jr-placebo-vaccine-testing-studies

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Anti-Vax America: God’s Will Jun 18, 2025

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For Peter, the father of the deceased child and a member of a Mennonite community in West Texas, the death of his child was God’s will. Many in the Mennonite communities of Texas and across the United States do not vaccinate their children, and their anti-vaccination stance is in line with their general religiously informed practice of eschewing modernity and its technological advances. But it is not merely the few sectarian Mennonite communities that still exist in the United States that have taken a stance against vaccination. Mainstream evangelical and charismatic congregations that embrace much of the modern world have also embraced anti-vaccination beliefs. This episode explores the relationship between conservative Christianity, anti-vaccination beliefs, and contemporary right-wing politics.

Sources:

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/03/texas-measles-outbreak-death-family/681985/

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2025/03/24/too-good-for-this-earth-parents-of-child-who-died-in-measles-outbreak-say-no-to-vaccine/

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2013/09/measles-outbreak-megachurch-kenneth-copeland-vaccines/

https://www.npr.org/2013/09/01/217746942/texas-megachurch-at-center-of-measles-outbreak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUGuJkVgXNA

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kenneth-copeland-blow-coronavirus-pray-sermon-trump-televangelist-a9448561.html

https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2025/03/04/west-texans-mennonites-at-center-of-measles-outbreak-choose-medical-freedom-over-vaccine-mandates/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/03/12/measles-vaccinations-texas-pastor-revels-in-schools-state-low-rates/81975293007/

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Anti-Vax America: Anti-Vax Genealogy Jun 17, 2025

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For many years, the threat of measles, a deadly disease that spreads more rapidly than COVID and regularly took thousands of lives a year, had been effectively eradicated in the United States due to the widespread acceptance of vaccination. The death of a child from measles in West Texas was the first in over a decade and it came as a shock to the American medical establishment that is now grappling with a disturbing reality: the chief public health bureaucrat is a bonafide anti-vaxxer. This episode will explore the genealogy of anti-vaccination beliefs in the United States and how they spread into mainstream politics.

Sources:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1200696/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8802588/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1123944/

https://time.com/7205900/anti-vaccination-movement-history/

https://historyofvaccines.org/getting-vaccinated/vaccine-faq/vaccination-exemptions

https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/timeline-of-vaccination-mandates

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-68106-1_2

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/rfk-jr-plandemic-funding-1235173801/

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-02-02/rand-paul-on-vaccines-most-of-them-ought-to-be-voluntary-

https://time.com/5175704/andrew-wakefield-vaccine-autism/

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2025/the-evidence-on-vaccines-and-autism

https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/the-bombastic-19th-century-anti-vaxxer-who-fueled-montreals-smallpox-epidemic/

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/plague-the-red-death-strikes-montreal-feature

https://www.cascadepbs.org/2020/05/seattle-always-had-anti-vaxxers-even-during-smallpox

https://www.cascadepbs.org/mossback/2025/02/history-vaccine-skepticism-1920s-seattle-rfk-jr

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