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It Could Happen Here

It Could Happen Here started as an exploration of the possibility of a new civil war. Now a daily show, it’s evolved into a chronicle of collapse as it happens, and an exploration of how we might build a better future. Every day Robert Evans, Garrison Davis, Mia Wong, and James Stout take you on a jaunty walk through the burning ruins of the old world and towards a better one that lays just on the horizon.

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The Arab Gulf States in the Line of Fire Jun 11, 2026

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Dana El Kurd speaks to Andrew Leber, assistant professor of political science and Middle East and North Africa politics, with an expertise in Saudi Arabia and the Arab Gulf states. Andrew outlines the different positions of the Gulf states in response to the ongoing war on Iran, the competing visions for the region posed by the UAE and Saudi Arabia, and the role of Israel in their calculations.

Sources:

Andrew Leber’s profile and articles - https://carnegieendowment.org/people/andrew-leber

How Palestine is linked to domestic grievances - https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13510347.2022.2038567

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The Globalization of Resistance with Andrew Jun 10, 2026

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Andrew talks with Garrison about how the jailing of political prisoners in Spain inadvertently sparked the Filipino labor movement and helped globalize the anti-imperialist struggle of the late 19th and early 20th century.

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Idealogical Totalism with Andrew Jun 09, 2026

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Andrew talks with Garrison about how apocalyptic cult-like groups override critical thought and promote mass violence.

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Bovino’s Visit to Europe Jun 08, 2026

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Former Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino travelled to a racist conference in Europe, James and Mia break down his interviews there and what it tells us about the culture of the agency he spent decades in.

Sources:

https://remigrationsummit.com/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/16/christchurch-shooters-links-to-austrian-far-right-more-extensive-than-thought

https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/

http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2025/08/RE_2025.08.21_Unauthorized-Immigrants_REPORT.pdf

https://www.cbp.gov/about

https://www.startribune.com/fact-check-federal-officials-claims-about-fatal-minneapolis-shooting/601570444

https://youtu.be/OYIK2-pO_7Y

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CZM Book Club: Phone Resistance, by Safear Ness -- with In The Belly Magazine Jun 07, 2026

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This week we are collaborating with In The Belly Magazine to read you a short memoir piece about organizing behind bars.

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It Could Happen Here Weekly 235 Jun 06, 2026

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All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file.

- Bears! And the Guys Who Don’t Like Them

- How to Potluck Your Way to a Union

- What’s In the DNC’s 2024 Autopsy

- The War on Iran and Convergences of Fascism

- Executive Disorder: California Elections, SCOTUS Approves GOP Map, Greg Bovino Update

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Sources/Links:

Bears! And the Guys Who Don’t Like Them

https://www.nps.gov/glac/learn/news/missing-hiker-and-bear-encounter-victim-identified.htm

https://www.hcn.org/issues/49-9/zinke-went-to-bears-ears-to-listen-but-supporters-felt-unheard/

https://x.com/RepRyanZinke/status/2054303113549381650?s=20

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2017/10/25/16-30033.pdf

https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/campaigns/Endangered-Species-Act-at-50/

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5829a2.htm

https://coloradosun.com/2024/04/16/dying-wolf-struck-by-snowmobile-shown-off-in-wyoming-bar/

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261982557_Efficacy_of_Firearms_for_Bear_Deterrence_in_Alaska

https://www.bearwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/efficacy-of-bear-spray-smith-et-al.-2010.pdf

https://alaskapublic.org/news/environment/2026-05-07/after-legal-challenge-alaska-judge-approves-states-revised-bear-cull-in-southwest-alaska

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28097859-250506-mulchatna/

https://www.akleg.gov/basis/Bill/Text/34?Hsid=HB0364A

https://propakistani.pk/2026/05/28/mma-fighter-killed-in-bear-attack-in-canada/

How to Potluck Your Way to a Union

https://www.gofundme.com/f/MujiWorkersUnited

https://www.instagram.com/mujiworkersunited.pdx/

What’s In the DNC’s 2024 Autopsy

https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/May-20-2026.pdf

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/01/ken-martin-elected-dnc-party-chair-00201938

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/21/politics/dnc-autopsy-inside-story

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/heres-what-i-told-the-dnc-autopsy-biden-harris-2024-lessons-democrats-2028

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/21/politics/dnc-autopsy-takeaways-vis

The War on Iran and Convergences of Fascism

Mohammad Ali Kadivar on the Iranian regime’s popular mobilization - https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/online-exclusive/why-the-iranian-regime-owns-the-streets/

Moustafa Bayoumi on the anti-Palestinian roots of Islamophobia - https://www.theguardian.com/news/article/2024/may/23/islamophobia-us-palestine-history

Negar Razavi’s website - https://negarsrazavi.com/

Executive Disorder: California Elections, SCOTUS Approves GOP Map, Greg Bovino Update

https://x.com/atrupar/status/2061537793843532054?s=20

https://x.com/Tomhennessey69/status/2061343239794299374

https://remigrationsummit.com/

https://www.politico.eu/article/afd-vox-mingle-with-ex-us-border-patrol-chief-white-nationalist-leader-at-remigration-summit/

https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2061550046571528666?s=20

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2061419519705223257?s=20

https://www.axios.com/2026/06/01/trump-netanyahu-israel-lebanon-call

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/iran-may-used-chinese-missile-shoot-us-fighter-jet-sources-say-rcna347555

https://www.patreon.com/posts/dont-confuse-and-159583359

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mndeoj7qnk24

https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2026-11094.pdf

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/06/promoting-advanced-artificial-intelligence-innovation-and-security/

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5905542-donald-trump-bill-pulte-odni-democratic-reaction/

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/25a1314_7m58.pdf

https://www.scotusblog.com/2026/06/supreme-court-permits-alabama-to-use-congressional-map-struck-by-lower-court-as-racially-discrim/
https://www.npr.org/2026/06/03/nx-s1-5844678/trump-science-funding-omb-budget-office-rule-change

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aej3572

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adz9553

https://elizabethginexi.substack.com/p/this-new-omb-rule-is-bigger-than

https://elizabethginexi.substack.com/p/summary-of-key-changes-in-ombs-proposed

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/05/29/2026-10817/regulation-for-federal-financial-assistance

https://www.science.org/content/article/researchers-slam-hhs-report-gender-affirming-care-youth

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/science-research-policy/2026/05/29/omb-proposes-rules-establishing-political

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Executive Disorder: California Elections, SCOTUS Approves GOP Map, Greg Bovino Update Jun 05, 2026

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The gang discuss Spencer Pratt’s LA mayoral campaign, a Supreme Court ruling on redistricting in Alabama, and changes to OMB funding.

Sources:

https://x.com/atrupar/status/2061537793843532054?s=20

https://x.com/Tomhennessey69/status/2061343239794299374

https://remigrationsummit.com/

https://www.politico.eu/article/afd-vox-mingle-with-ex-us-border-patrol-chief-white-nationalist-leader-at-remigration-summit/

https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/

https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/2061550046571528666?s=20

https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2061419519705223257?s=20

https://www.axios.com/2026/06/01/trump-netanyahu-israel-lebanon-call

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/iran-may-used-chinese-missile-shoot-us-fighter-jet-sources-say-rcna347555

https://www.patreon.com/posts/dont-confuse-and-159583359

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mndeoj7qnk24

https://public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2026-11094.pdf

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/06/promoting-advanced-artificial-intelligence-innovation-and-security/

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5905542-donald-trump-bill-pulte-odni-democratic-reaction/

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/25a1314_7m58.pdf

https://www.scotusblog.com/2026/06/supreme-court-permits-alabama-to-use-congressional-map-struck-by-lower-court-as-racially-discrim/
https://www.npr.org/2026/06/03/nx-s1-5844678/trump-science-funding-omb-budget-office-rule-change

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aej3572

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adz9553

https://elizabethginexi.substack.com/p/this-new-omb-rule-is-bigger-than

https://elizabethginexi.substack.com/p/summary-of-key-changes-in-ombs-proposed

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/05/29/2026-10817/regulation-for-federal-financial-assistance

https://www.science.org/content/article/researchers-slam-hhs-report-gender-affirming-care-youth

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/science-research-policy/2026/05/29/omb-proposes-rules-establishing-political

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The War on Iran and Convergences of Fascism Jun 04, 2026

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Dana El Kurd speaks to Negar Razavi, a political anthropologist at the Mossavar-Rahmani Center for Iran and Persian Gulf Studies. Dana and Negar discuss conditions in Iran today, the impact the war has had on the regime and on regional dynamics, and how the “experts” in DC are implicated in this disaster.

Sources:

Mohammad Ali Kadivar on the Iranian regime’s popular mobilization - https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/online-exclusive/why-the-iranian-regime-owns-the-streets/

Moustafa Bayoumi on the anti-Palestinian roots of Islamophobia - https://www.theguardian.com/news/article/2024/may/23/islamophobia-us-palestine-history

Negar Razavi’s website - https://negarsrazavi.com/

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What’s In the DNC’s 2024 Autopsy Jun 03, 2026

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Garrison and Sophie talk about the long awaited DNC 2024 election autopsy, its many factual errors, contradictory analysis, and the glaring omissions from Palestine to inflation and Biden’s age.

Sources:

https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/May-20-2026.pdf

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/01/ken-martin-elected-dnc-party-chair-00201938

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/21/politics/dnc-autopsy-inside-story

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/heres-what-i-told-the-dnc-autopsy-biden-harris-2024-lessons-democrats-2028

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/21/politics/dnc-autopsy-takeaways-vis

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How to Potluck Your Way to a Union Jun 02, 2026

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Mia talks with Morgan and Rene of Muji Workers United about their struggle for a union and how ordinary people out-organized their bosses.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/MujiWorkersUnited
https://www.instagram.com/mujiworkersunited.pdx/

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