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Post Capitalist Desire, Melancholy, Psychedelia and Mark Fisher with Matt Colquhoun Jan 13, 2021

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We welcome author Matt Colquhoun to discuss his release of TWO new books exploring the work of the late, great Mark Fisher.

We discuss Mark's life and legacy, Post Capitalist desire, accelerationism, the various misinterpretations of Capitalist Realism, and the need for psychedelic new fantasies.

Postcapitalist Desire: The Final Lectures: https://repeaterbooks.com/product/postcapitalist-desire-the-final-lectures/

Egress: On Mourning, Melancholy and Mark Fisher: https://repeaterbooks.com/product/egress-on-mourning-melancholy-and-mark-fisher/

Xenogothic: https://xenogothic.com/

The CIA, CCF and Cultural Cold War with Frances Stonor Saunders Jan 06, 2021

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It was difficult to coordinate release schedules with the CIA but we got there in the end

This week we discuss the CIA and the art world with Frances Stonor Saunders, author of the canonical book in this field "Who Paid The Piper?".

Big thanks to the HKW for facilitating this discussion, and be sure to check out the other programming from their "Disappearance of Music" event.

LINKS

Who Paid the Piper?:https://granta.com/products/who-paid-the-piper/

HKW Disappearance of Music: https://www.hkw.de/en/programm/projekte/2020/das_verschwinden_der_musik/start.php#:~:text=The%20discursive%20digital%20music%20festival,or%20under%20strict%20protective%20measures.

Platform co-ops and illusory democratisation with Nathan Schneider Dec 15, 2020

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Hi everyone

In this episode we welcome Nathan Schneider, professor of media studies at the University of Colorado Boulder, significant player in the platform co-operativism movement and the originator of the term “exit to community”

We discuss the state of platform co-operativism today, the intersections between more traditional coop communities and the emerging crypto world, the history of co-ops, and as usual we get to gleefully dunk on the mythologies of the centralised platform economy.

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Justice at Spotify with The Union of Musicians and Allied Workers Dec 08, 2020

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Hi everyone,

happy to share a conversation this week with The Union of Musicians and Allied Workers, whose petition making demands of Spotify to improve terms for artists has gathered over 20,000 signatures and counting.

We discuss those demands in detail, other initiatives they have undertaken and take the rare opportunity to have a conversation about living under streaming with other actively touring musicians .

LINKS

Get involved with UMAW: https://www.unionofmusicians.org/

Follow them: https://twitter.com/UMAW_

Buy a Downtown Boys record: https://downtownboys.bandcamp.com/

Anarchist UBI, local currencies and weird fatigue with Sarah Friend (Circles UBI) Dec 02, 2020

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We join Sarah Friend, core dev from talk of the town project Circles UBI to discuss the crazy few weeks they have been having giving away a UBI through social trust networks. We pull apart how the project works and discuss the history of local currencies, potential dystopian scenarios, "weird fatigue" and the turbulence of pursuing an art practice that involves building things that do stuff.

We went on a recording frenzy this past week so have a bunch more great episodes lined up. Hope you are all good!

Links!

Circles UBI

https://circles.garden/

Sarah's other work

https://isthisa.com/

2017: The year the blockchain got weird

https://www.coindesk.com/2017-year-blockchain-got-weird

Artist tokens, Community Owned Institutions and the Reliance Alliance with ZORA Nov 24, 2020

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Hi everyone!

This week we welcome Dee and Jacob from Zora, a new organisation that is building tools for artists to issue tokens around their creative practices.

We discuss their idea of dynamic pricing of art releases and at the advent of the musician RAC releasing his $RAC token through ZORA, the new space of artists and their audiences owning a stake in the value they interdependently create in the world. We also talk a tour around the very short history of artist token models, how these new tools are enabling financial literacy, what not to do, and what other potential models could emerge from this nascent era of collectively owned cultural institutions.

This was a really fun and optimistic conversation, and if you are interested to learn more about the project, be sure to check out http://ourzora.com or reach out to Dee or Jacob on twitter.

Have a great week and thanks again for your support!

LINKS

http://ourzora.com

https://twitter.com/js_horne

https://twitter.com/dg_goens

This is All Happening Right Now: Solarpunk, cultural fracking and the real Jurassic Park with Jay Springett Nov 17, 2020

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Back with a conversation with a special person and close friend of the podcast Jay Springett

Jay is a writer, theorist and podcaster who falls into a special category of people where we can say with some confidence that whatever they are thinking about will be commonplace in a few years. We discuss a passion of his, Solarpunk, cultural fracking, universe construction, permaculture, Russia’s real jurassic park, K pop and the factory model, reality modelling and aerospace, conspiracy theories and much more.

Can’t recommend enough that you check out Jay’s various cultural contributions, and hope you are all having a wonderful week.

LINKS

thejaymo.net

Permanentlymoved.online

Comeinternetwith.me

https://www.thejaymo.net/solarpunk-rusted-chrome/

http://opentranscripts.org/transcript/solarpunk-grand-dress-rehearsal/

https://www.thejaymo.net/seeing-through-the-debris/

https://stacktivism.com/

Collaborating with the dead, Hildegard of Bingen, genius and villainy with Huw Lemmey (Bad Gays) Nov 10, 2020

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This week we are thrilled to welcome the author and critic Huw Lemmey in celebration of his new novel Unknown Language, written in collaboration with Hildegard of Bingen and out now on Ignota books

We discuss what it is like to channel the dead and write a novel together, Hildegard's visions and genius, constructed languages, and Bad Gays; Huw’s wonderful podcast with the historian Ben Miller.

We could have talked for a few lifetimes :)

Thanks again for the support and have a wonderful week!

LINKS

Unknown Language out now on Ignota Books

https://ignota.org/products/unknown-language

Utopian Drivel, Huw's weekly Substack!

https://huw.substack.com/

Bad Gays pod!

https://badgayspod.com/

Huw on Twitter

https://twitter.com/huwlemmey

A New Club Economy w/ Richie Hawtin Oct 20, 2020

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The second part of our discussion facilitated in collaboration with Sonar +D and Ars Electronica.

Particularly excited to share this one, where we reflect upon what foundations of the club economy appear to be most exposed by the current crisis, discuss Richie's work with AFEM to help get producers paid, and speculate on the possibility of new and necessary economic relationships between DJ's and producers under a guild model.

Links

Sonar +D https://sonarplusd.com/

Ars Electronica https://ars.electronica.art/news/en/

AFEM: https://www.associationforelectronicmusic.org/initiatives/

Squad Wealth and Headless Brands with Other Internet Oct 06, 2020

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Really happy to welcome Other Internet to the podcast, an independent strategy and research squad based between New York and Berlin.

Their recent essay “Squad Wealth” looks at the phenomenon of interdependent squads emerging on the internet as a necessary progression from the atomized independence economy.

We discuss Squad Wealth and their other incredibly useful conception of Headless Brands, the redundancy of the binary left/right axis when tracking emerging cultural developments, critiques that have been leveled against their Squad analysis, and different decentralized institutions and arrangements that are forming to spread big squad energy.

Wonderful group of people. Hope you are having a good week! We have a bunch of great guests lined up into the fall, and now have electricity in the space. Although given the way things work in Berlin it might be a few months before we might have an internet connection…

Links

https://otherinter.net/squad-wealth/

https://otherinter.net/web3/headless-brands/

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