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    Inside Out with Jim Bennett and Ian Wilks

    The format of Inside Out is simple – Jim Bennett is still on the inside of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and Ian Wilks is on the outside of the Church. Yet both care about the Church and its future, and both want to see constructive dialogue between those who stay and those who leave. Hopefully, all of us can come to a better understanding of the Church and of each other. 

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    Missions, Metrics, and the Stories We Tell Ourselves Jan 31, 2026
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    Ian and Jim sit down for a one-on-one conversation to examine recent remarks by Elder Ronald A. Rasband about missionary work, church growth, and the “hastening” of the Lord’s work.

    Taking a close look at six “false narratives” Elder Rasband says need debunking, Jim and Ian explore what church growth really means—and how it’s measured. They discuss missionary numbers, retention rates, regional differences, and why broad claims often lack the hard data needed to evaluate them honestly.


    Disability - with Greg Prince Jan 24, 2026
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    Ian and Jim are joined once again by historian and scholar Greg Prince to explore one of the most neglected and sensitive issues in modern Mormonism: disability. Drawing from Greg’s unpublished “roadmap” for institutional reform—and from deeply personal experience as the parent of an autistic adult—the conversation examines how church culture, doctrine, and silence have shaped the lived experiences of people with disabilities and their families.

    Together, Greg, Jim, and Ian unpack harmful theological assumptions, patronizing narratives, and the human tendency to seek tidy answers for suffering. The discussion ranges from autism and physical disability to broader parallels with race, gender, and LGBTQ issues in the Church. At its heart, this episode is a call for humility, compassion, and honesty—centered on two simple principles: don’t judge, and ask how you can help.


    Us vs. Them - with Greg Prince Jan 17, 2026
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    Ian and Jim are joined once again by historian and author Greg Prince to discuss the Church’s long-standing “us versus them” mindset — how it shaped missionary culture, theological certainty, and member identity, and how it continues to affect relationships with other faiths, former members, and the wider world.


    Richard Bushman Returns! Jan 10, 2026
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    Richard Lyman Bushman, one of the most influential historians of Joseph Smith and early Mormonism, returns to Inside Out for a candid conversation about faith, doubt, and the complicated relationship between spiritual conviction and institutional history.


    The Legacy of Jeffrey R. Holland - with Greg Prince Jan 03, 2026
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    In this New Year episode of Inside Out, Ian and Jim welcome back historian and scholar Greg Prince for a wide-ranging conversation centered on the recent passing of Elder Jeffrey R. Holland and what his funeral revealed about the Church’s leadership transition and future direction.


    The Word of Wisdom - with Greg Prince Dec 27, 2025
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    Ian and Jim welcome back renowned Mormon historian and author Greg Prince for a thoughtful, eye-opening conversation about one of the most debated elements of modern Mormon culture: the Word of Wisdom.

    Together, they examine how a revelation originally given “not by commandment or constraint” became a central loyalty marker for temple worthiness—and why the Church’s modern enforcement looks very different from the actual text of Doctrine & Covenants 89.


    A Conversation with Ganesh Cherian and Greg Prince Dec 20, 2025
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    What does it really mean to be a Christian - or a Mormon - today?

    Ian and Jim are once again joined by historian Greg Prince and author and former bishop Ganesh Cherian for an honest, unscripted conversation about faith, loyalty, identity, and the future of Mormonism.


    A Conversation with Karen Hyatt Dec 13, 2025
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    What happens when conscience collides with institution—and peace, not anger, is the result?

    Ian and Jim sit down with Karen Hyatt, a lifelong Latter-day Saint whose deep devotion to Christ led her to one of the most controversial conclusions in modern Mormon discourse: that Joseph Smith was not a polygamist—and that the historical record has been profoundly misrepresented.

    Karen shares her faith journey as a convert, missionary, wife, and researcher, culminating in her two-hour documentary Woe Unto You Scribes, which compiles primary documents from the Joseph Smith Papers and other contemporary sources. What follows is not a story of bitterness or rebellion—but of calm conviction, spiritual clarity, and integrity.


    A Conversation with Pat Boisselle Dec 07, 2025
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    Jim and Ian sit down with Pat Boisselle — an old friend of Ian's whose life in Mormonism was defined by devotion, service, and sincerity.

    For decades, Pat was the kind of Latter-day Saint who quietly strengthened his community: a devoted husband, a dedicated missionary, a compassionate servant, and someone known for going above and beyond without seeking recognition.
    But in recent years, Pat’s faith was shaken by troubling questions, institutional decisions, and personal experiences that made him reevaluate the church he once gave everything to.

    It’s the heartfelt account of a good man seeking truth, wrestling with loss, and choosing integrity even when it hurts.


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