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Episode 72: Kris Myers and Aaron "LOUIE" Meyette Mar 17, 2019

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Rob and Seth first rejoice over the announcement of the new partnership between Osiris Podcasts and JamBase, and Rob elaborates on why he believes this is the ideal relationship for this podcast and for others on the Osiris Network.

Then the listener is again taken to backstage at The Tabernacle for two interviews conducted during the Umphrey's McGee 2019 New Years' run. Drummer Kris Myers talks about his transition from being an enthusiast of grunge music to studying jazz and cutting his teeth in the "hot seat" of playing in "pro level" big bands.

Kris explains how "one of the weirdest people I know" Brian Abraham is a bit of an "unsung hero" in Umphrey's circles. On the eve of his 16th Anniversary with the band, Kris talks about how his predecessor Mike Mirro helped him find his musical place in Umphrey's McGee, how "Plunger" and "Believe The Lie" were among the first Umphrey's songs he helped to shape and how his playing in the band has evolved over the years.

We also learn about the "Hide The One" jam, how he used orchestral percussion to achieve a "thick, pulsating tone" on the band's recent studio release and Myers takes us into his thinking process behind one particular drum solo he played during this run (and we get to hear it). He also details his experiences with other musicians, including Jimmy Chamberlin of Smashing Pumpkins, Zappa alum Mike Keneally and the legendary Adrian Belew.

Then Aaron "Louie" Meyette represents the midwest well as he walks us through his unusual career path to becoming a full-time Umphrey's Mcgee employee. Louie went from working with the "Midwest Peeps," to USTORM, to doing Umphrey's merchandise to becoming the Lighting Crew Chief. His Umphstory should inspire others who aspire.

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Episode 71: Thirty Years of Leftover Salmon Mar 07, 2019

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Turner and Seth first explain how this episode came together mostly by accident. They chat with Tim Newby, author of Leftover Salmon: Thirty Years Of Festival. Newby shares an early life story from each of the band's founding members: Drew Emmitt, Vince Herman and Mark Vann. Newby also offers his opinion on two myths that have become legendary in Salmon circles. Fans of Phish and String Cheese Incident will be interested to learn how Salmon’s early career intersected with those groups. We learn the beginnings of a musician’s prank called "Songbombing" discussed with Mimi Naja in Episode 63). Newby also tells us how different drummers came to define each era of the band and shares a passage from his book about the importance of finding Andy Thorn after the passing of Mark Vann. Next we go to the "Tasting Room" at Atlanta’s City Winery and hear long-time friends Drew Emmitt and Vince Herman speak of Tim's book, their evolving relationship with Phil Lesh, their current "living room-style" tour and more.

The episode contains two exclusive duo performances from Emmitt and Herman, and a full-band live take on the Drew Emmitt's song “Astral Traveler," written in tribute to this program's Godfather, Col. Bruce Hampton - this version performed in The Colonel's adopted home town of Atlanta. A gorgeous studio version of the song appears on the Steve Berlin-produced Something Higher CD.

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Episode 70: Isaac Teel of TAUK Feb 25, 2019

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Rob and Seth first talk about they had to miss some of an Umphrey's McGee show to conduct this interview, which at once pained Turner but also indicated how strongly he felt about the brilliance of this guest. A quick tribute to Kofi Burbridge, a musician who passed away shortly before parts of this episode were recorded, unfolds to the Teel interview which finds him quick to explain how thankful he is to do what he loves for a living. Isaac talks about the importance of a band having a vision and being careful to make licensing decisions with this in mind. He also relates a revelation he had while working at Payless Shoes, how he auditioned for Stomp and the fact that he loves writing music and would be "really content" with just writing music if for some reason he could no longer tour. Isaac also mocks the "fashion-ignorant" Turner for being overly impressed with his own yoga pants, but he welcomes Turner's offer to give him a Kyrie Irving shirt (upon further review, it will probably be a Jayson Tatum shirt). The trio talk about the improv in the song "Convoy," the importance of "uber subtle non-verbal communication" and how while the band often knows exactly where they are going, those moments "when you know you don't know" can be the blessings which "hit you in the face." Teel admits his love of hip/hop and how in his teaching his students learn the importance of making a statement and how Kendrick Lamar "doesn't even know he's a drummer." Isaac also walks us through how his song "CMF 9000" evolved from an Ableton piece to a TAUK staple (this is demonstrated to completion at the end of the episode). He also relates about how the band benefits from each member having its ego enough in check to benefit from their each other's composition inputs and how this in turn makes the whole greater than the sum of its parts. He walks us through many TAUK songs, particularly delighting Rob by relating some of the history of the Turner favorite, "Check Mate." The new, free live release "Real TAUK Vol. 1" featuring tracks suggested by the band comes up, and Isaac indicates receptiveness to Turner's idea to have Part Two be selected by some of their most fervent fans. Perhaps most touching is how Teel repeatedly returns to the theme that much of his success in life and music is due to his mother. God bless her. The episode ends with Seth and Rob each sharing some recent live music experiences, and Rob ranting about confounding Twitter responses he received from cranky New York writer Caryn Rose and the curious Twitter inferences of the movie soundtrack artist, Branford Marsalis.

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Episode 69: Jeff Coffin Feb 14, 2019

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Seth and Rob sit down with Jeff Coffin backstage at The Tabernacle in Atlanta just before Jeff was going to join Umphrey's McGee for portions of the final two shows of that band's New Year's run there. Coffin delights the hosts by talking about how hearing Colonel Bruce Hampton and the Aquarium Rescue Unit on the way to the grocery store one afternoon completely changed his view of music. Jeff relates how after a chance encounter with Victor Wooten, Jeff ended up going to see Bela Fleck and The Flecktones in Aspen. Jeff would learn at setbreak that thanks to drummer Tom Pollard, Bela was already, "Coffin aware." A relationship developed quickly and soon Coffin found himself playing a gig with The Flecktones in Vermont, after which Bela surprised Jeff by asking him to join the band on a more permanent basis. We learn about how Coffin began sitting in with Dave Matthews Band, and then how at one point he had to scramble to help them out when tragedy hit the band just hours before tour. Jeff effusively reports about how consistently welcoming the entire band was to him, and we learn of (and hear) how years later the band negotiated their way through the beginning of "Ants Marching" the first time they played it after losing another key band member. Coffin elaborates on other awkward on-stage moments that have happened with DMB, although on balance the band is of course doing quite well. In fact, DMB had an incredibly strong 2018 with the release of its 7th consecutive #1-debuting record the (the first band to EVER pull that off) and their ability to continue to hit new peaks as a live act after all of these years. A discussion of "The Space Between" leads to Coffin elaborating on the importance of listening....in music....and in life. We also learn about how teaching as changed him as a musician and as a person and he talks about the thought process early this decade that lead to him starting his label, Ear Up Records. As Turner elaborated upon in the intro, this label brings forth a variety of records featuring brilliant, and in some cases lesser-known musicians, aeach schemed in very clever and unique fashion. Jeff goes into detail about a few of these - including how he brought the legendary Dave Liebman down to Nashville for a bunch of gigs, one of which would lead to the superb "On The Corner Live: The Music of Miles Davis" release. Jeff reveals how this was essentially recorded surreptitiously. The episode outtro includes Seth's reports from some of the destination festivals he has been working, and Rob talks about the music-packed weekend he had just had including a fantastic triple bill of Liz Cooper + The Stampede/New Madrid/The Artisanals.

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Episode 68: Jake Cinninger Jan 22, 2019

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Seth and Rob sit down with Jake Cinninger of Umphrey's McGee backstage at The Tabernacle during the band's recent four night New Year's run. Jake sits with guitar in hand and talks about the creation and influences of many Umphrey's McGee compositions. His reflections on the band's fantastic year lead to an interesting discussion of how the Umphrey's collaboration with drummer, Jason Bonham unfolded (and how Van Halen served as a bonding force). Jake also talks about how the band's improvisational approach has evolved in recent years, and offers specific examples of this. Jake talks about his "Live From Boondocks Studio" series and expresses an interest in doing more of them, and to record some of the hundreds of songs he has archived there. Jake talks about his love of, and history with country music, and specifically Sturgill Simpson, and how he would love to become a bridge between the country music and Umphrey's McGee world. Cinninger also talks about how the recent sit in with "American Treasure" Larry Keel came together and the chances of that collaboration happening again. Jake demonstrates his "muppet character guitar" abilities, demonstrating some unique elements of the work of guitarists Mark Knopfler, Albert King, Chet Atkins, Robert Fripp and Joe Pass as well as artists like Lamb of God, Van Halen, Mastodon, Thin Lizzy and Fripp's King Crimson. Jake takes a stab at a "progressive country" song, debuts the framework of a potential future Umphrey's song and even mentions quantum physics during this chat. Jake also talks about how his experience as a drummer influenced his writing, about performance and writing insight he tries to impart as a teacher and he demonstrates on guitar how the usage of "tension notes" can punch up a composition. Seth and Rob offer a quick wrap-up which includes Rob's observation that two different fellow Osiris Podcast Network teammates had each recently delivered stories about Bruce Springsteen. Seth then talks about his forthcoming destination events, and he will report back on those in future episodes.

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Tweener I - Umphrey's McGee Atlanta New Year's 2019 Jan 11, 2019

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Rob walks Seth through a set-by-set recap of the Umphrey's McGee four night 2018-19 New Year's eve run at The Tabernacle in Atlanta. Sara Jachimiak of the Umphreak Parent's Podcast (https://umphreakparentspodcast.simplecast.fm/) calls in to give her review of the intimate "ViP" set which occured the afternoon of December 29th. She also talks about her own Umph-centric show, and she gives her five favorite moments of this run. If you want recordings of this run go to livedownloads.com, and if you would like more examples of Seth and Rob focusing on Umphrey's McGee - check out the Brendan Bayliss episodes (part one - https://insideoutwtns.simplecast.fm/e9bad692 part two - https://insideoutwtns.simplecast.fm/afb83980) and the episode with their outstanding front-of-house sound engineer, Chris Mitchell (https://insideoutwtns.simplecast.fm/28d354af).

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Episode 67: Billy Strings Dec 13, 2018

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Seth and Rob had an opportunity to sit down with a young man who is setting on fire the traditional music-flavored wing of the jamband world, Billy Strings. The hosts in advance of the interview discuss Billy and his touring band, and then throw to the interview - conducted backstage at Terminal West just before Billy and his band performed there (all of the LIVE music you hear in the episode is from the Billy Strings show that night). Billy first picked up the guitar at the age of 4, and we learn about some of the many things that influenced him....his father......legendary musicians from Mac Wiseman to metal.....a powerful DMT trip....and the way he these days is positioning himself in anticipation of spending the majority of the next few years playing music around the world. Billy proudly relates how his father would sit him down and enthusiastically educate him on various artists, and Billy gets emotional as he relates a story about a night in Ohio when he got to return the favor and introduce his father to one of those artists, David Grisman. Billy tells of how this led to him and his father jamming with David and Del McCoury. Billy is clearly wise beyond his years, and we learn about how he more focused on keeping his career moving in the right direction than in the party which can surround the world of a touring musician - prioritizing his career even to more of an extent than many veteran musicians. He at this point in his life would rather feed his mind with a good documentary than his head with intoxicants. Billy talks about some of the decision points and inspirations behind his brilliant most recent cd, Turmoil and Tinfoil. Billy speaks about one of the many lessons he has learned while playing which forever changed his approach - this one delivered by Sam Bush without Sam saying a word. We also find out about how years later Sam himself brought forth his own similar story after Billy told him of this treasured learning moment. Billy then plays three songs exclusively for you, the InsideOut wTnS listener. The episode ends with Seth talking about Closer To The Sun and Rob relating some of his experiences seeing the quintet Max Creek in Rhode Island and Thom Yorke in Brooklyn. Then Jon Stickley offers some thoughts on Billy Strings, and a quick cover of one of Billy's funnier compositions, and the episode ends with the jam-licious pair of songs which ended of the first set from the same night as this interview.

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Episode 66: Stanley Clarke Dec 02, 2018

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Seth and Rob set the table with a talk about Stanley Clarke and all of the musicians he has worked with over the years. Clarke is an innovative jazz-and-beyond bassist who even had a bit of hit with the title track of his Stanley Clarke Band record, “School Days” in the 70s, and with the landmark fusion band, Return To Forever. We learn about when the now-iconic “School Days” bass line came to Stanley, and about how RTF-band-mate Chick Corea convinced Stanley to start writing years before that. Stanley elaborates on the importance of Art Blakey, and about how Clarke was so moved by John Coltrane that he at one point even seriously considered ditching his bass to play sax. Stanley also talks about his recent work with the Smithsonian, how he chose to play Alembic bass. and the great honor recently bestowed upon him by the Montreal Jazz Festival. Stanley very much continues to make amazing music today, and the genesis and ethos of his poignant 2018 release, The Message is discussed. Stanley benefits from the compositional and performance talents of some incredible young musicians on this record, many of which are discussed including Cameron Graves (a founding member of West Coast Get Down) and Beka Gochiashvili (who was discovered by Condoleeza Rice in Georgia, the former Soviet republic). Perhaps best of all for some, Stanley shares some memories about jazz pioneer, Charles Mingus. Before the episode ends Seth shares his experiences at the Hulaween Festival in Florida, and Rob talks about seeing Bob Dylan in North Carolina and Bob Weir and The Wolf Brothers in Tennessee.

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Great PeaTAUK Nov 15, 2018

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Seth and Rob had one night together before they won’t see each other for several weeks, so they fired up this spontaneous episode. After a nod to Ben and Jerry’s new “It’s Ice…..Cream” flavor, Polay and Clark, Osiris and the Alternate Routes podcast, the hosts announce that friends of the show Great Peacock and Infamous Stringdusters will be doing four dates together March 27-30. The hosts talk about Great Peacock and play their recent track “Rattlesnake,” which features Tom Blankenship of My Morning Jacket on bass. Upcoming show events are discussed including Atlanta’s Holiday Hootenanny which will take place at The Variety Playhouse on December 20, and features Peter Rowan, Larry Keel, Jeff Mosier and others. Then the guys talk about the coming Umphrey’s McGee New Year’s run, and in particular the December 29th show. Tauk have agreed to divert their routing so that they can open that show, and late-night reignite the ferocious hybrid Tauking McGee. The guys talk about Tauk’s 2018 Shapeshifter II release and they end the episode by playing, “”Recreational Outrage” from that cd.

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Episode 65: Salmon Dusters Oct 31, 2018

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Songs included in episode are all from The Tab 9.21.18 except the two "Salmon Dusters" songs performed privately for us.

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Open - Leftover Salmon (with Andy Hall) "Get Up And Go"Lead-into interview - Infamous Stringdusters (with Drew Emmitt) "Down In The Hollow (Hollerwood)"Between interview and performance - Infamous Stringdusters "My Destination"Performance - Salmon Dusters Quartet "Blue Yodel #4" (Bill Monroe) and "How Far I'd Fall For You" (Bennie "Burle" Galloway)Close (these are in their entirety)Ensemble (Jeff Mosier with all of Salmon, Stringdusters and Hand Grenades)"Little Georgia Rose", "Workin' On a Building" & "Cheese Frog"

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