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    Inside EMS

    For 14 years, the Inside EMS podcast helped drive conversations shaping the profession. Across nearly 900 episodes, hosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson examined hot topics affecting providers and leaders, from field operations and clinical decision-making to technology adoption, workforce challenges and agency leadership. With more than 2.3 million downloads and listeners in 51 countries, the podcast built a lasting archive of practical insight, debate and perspective for every stage of an EMS career.

    While new episodes have concluded, the Inside EMS archive (and the Inside EMS YouTube playlist) remains a valuable educational resource. Listeners can revisit discussions on clinical care, leadership, workforce challenges, professional development and the evolving role of EMS in public safety and healthcare.

    You can stay up to date on the latest EMS leadership trends and insights with EMS One-Stop with Rob Lawrence, available wherever you listen to podcasts.

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    EMS response to the current outbreak of monkeypox May 31, 2022
    Show notes

    This episode of EMS One-Stop With Rob Lawrence is brought to you by Lexipol, the experts in policy, training, wellness support and grants assistance for first responders and government leaders. To learn more, visit lexipol.com.

    In light of the recent monkeypox outbreak, both the CDC and Atlanta’s National Emerging Special Pathogens Training and Education Center (NETEC) have issued specialist guidance to both EMS and healthcare.

    To discuss this emerging issue, Rob Lawrence is joined by Alexander P. Isakov, MD, MPH, professor of emergency medicine at Emory University. He is also the director for Emory’s Section of Prehospital and Disaster Medicine, whose faculty and staff provide medical oversight for 911 communications centers, first responders, and air and ground ambulance services in the metropolitan Atlanta area.

    Additionally, Dr. Isakov founded and directs the Emory-Grady EMS Bio-Safety Transport Program, which supports the Emory University Hospital Serious Communicable Diseases Unit and the CDC for the transport and management of persons confirmed or suspected to have a high consequence infectious disease.

    Discussed in the podcast are the signs and symptoms of monkeypox, methods of transmission, precautions for providers and notification requirements. The conversation also includes COVID-19, and the current upward trend in cases.


    Patient care: What’s your ’perspective’? May 27, 2022
    Show notes

    This episode of the Inside EMS Podcast is sponsored by FirstNet, Built with AT&T. FirstNet uses the latest technology to keep your lines of communication and data open – to help you respond faster, smarter and safer.

    In this episode, host Chris Cebollero interviews co-host Kelly Grayson about his new book, "Perspectives, Volume I: An Emergency Medicine and Public Safety Anthology." The concept for the book came from a successful excercise on Grayson's blog, in which he would create a fictional patient and elicit the perspective of an ER nurse and a police officer to understand how they see the same patient.

    For his book, Grayson expanded on the concept, and invited a number of public safety and public health professionals to collaborate on the work. Our co-hosts discuss how readers should approach the book, where the idea came from and what a lay person can glean from the pages.


    Preparing a workforce to deal with emotional trauma May 26, 2022
    Show notes

    This episode of EMS One-Stop With Rob Lawrence is brought to you by Lexipol, the experts in policy, training, wellness support and grants assistance for first responders and government leaders. To learn more, visit lexipol.com.

    In this special edition of EMS One-Stop, Host Rob Lawrence is joined by Mike Taigman, improvement guide at FirstWatch, and Nicole Holm, MA, BCC, a chaplain with Allina Health Emergency Medical Services. This edition was recorded the day after the school shooting in Uvalde, Texas.

    Holm and Taigman discuss resilience and the role of chaplaincy in EMS. The conversation identifies coping strategies and methods to prepare a workforce to deal with such levels of mental trauma in the future.

    Read more: Uvalde aftermath: What should we do today? - “Sadly, this isn’t the last time we will see these headlines, but for us, today, put the tourniquet away and focus on the heart and soul of those in our charge.”


    From the front lines of Ukraine medical operations May 24, 2022
    Show notes

    This episode of EMS One-Stop With Rob Lawrence is brought to you by Lexipol, the experts in policy, training, wellness support and grants assistance for first responders and government leaders. To learn more, visit lexipol.com.

    In this episode of EMS One-Stop, Host Rob Lawrence speaks with Stefan Korshak, senior defense correspondent for the Kiev Post. U.S.-born, now Ukrainian resident Korshak is a journalist and foreign correspondent reporter specializing in conflict zone work.

    Rob and Stefan discuss the general situation in Ukraine, humanitarian and refugee issues, and support being provided to displaced citizens by the Ukrainian Government, and the unity and morale of the general population.

    In the second half of the podcast, Stefan recounts a recent visit to the front line and his interaction with ambulance and frontline medical support and evacuation operations. To conclude, Stefan identifies current needs and it’s ambulances … as long as they are 4x4 AWD and armored.


    DNR ambiguity: Making the right call on scene May 13, 2022
    Show notes

    This episode of the Inside EMS Podcast is sponsored by FirstNet, Built with AT&T. FirstNet uses the latest technology to keep your lines of communication and data open – to help you respond faster, smarter and safer.

    In this episode of Inside EMS, co-hosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson discuss a recent news article out of Florida regarding a Fla. patient's Do Not Resuscitate order. The family of the patient alleges EMS providers violated the legal wishes of Celeste Salanitri, 81, who suffered from end-stage Parksinson's disease, after she was treated for a fall at an assisted living facility.

    "There is so much ambiguity when it comes to DNR's that EMS providers need to be up on how to handle when nursing staff or family members say there is a DNR in place," Cebollero says.

    Our co-hosts end the show by describing a series of DNR scenarios to consider how they would respond in the moment.


    State EMS associations: From the top May 12, 2022
    Show notes

    This episode of EMS One-Stop With Rob Lawrence is brought to you by Lexipol, the experts in policy, training, wellness support and grants assistance for first responders and government leaders. To learn more, visit lexipol.com.

    In this episode, host Rob Lawrence delves into the essential work of State EMS Associations, their functions and the key legislative activities they are undertaking.

    His EMS leader guests for this podcast, recorded at the recent AAA Stars of Life event, include:

    • Terrence Ramotar, director for government affairs for the SE region for Global Medical Response, and president of the Florida Ambulance Association
    • Jimmy Pierson, president and COO of Medic Ambulance Service in Northern California, and president of the California Ambulance Association
    • Chris Anderson, COO of Bell Ambulance of Milwaukee, and president of the Professional Ambulance Association of Wisconsin

    Don’t push my buttons: How to effectively manage your emotions May 06, 2022
    Show notes

    This episode of the Inside EMS Podcast is sponsored by FirstNet, Built with AT&T. FirstNet uses the latest technology to keep your lines of communication and data open – to help you respond faster, smarter and safer.

    In this episode of Inside EMS, co-hosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson discuss the concept of self awareness and emotional intelligence. Sometimes people push our buttons, and we allow emotions to dictate our actions – why does this happen? What is the process of analyzing our emotions that allows us to control them when confronted? Cebellero outlines the components of emotional intelligence and offers tips to better understanding through reflection and developing a solid self-awareness.


    A moment of crisis: TikTok sensation Anna Muller on how EMS saved her life May 04, 2022
    Show notes

    This episode of EMS One-Stop With Rob Lawrence is brought to you by Lexipol, the experts in policy, training, wellness support and grants assistance for first responders and government leaders. To learn more, visit lexipol.com.

    Anna Muller is a TikTok sensation who has been viewed on her channel over 20 million times. Muller now spends her time as a transformational life coach and public speaker.

    As a keynote speaker at the American Ambulance Association 2022 Stars of Life Ceremony on May 3, 2022, in Washington D.C., Anna described the moment two paramedics saved her life after she made a difficult 911 call. That call changed her life, and generated a TikTok message that has touched millions since.

    In this EMS One-Stop Podcast, Anna tells Rob Lawrence her story of survival, hope, courage and resilience, and how the interaction with EMS changed her life. Anna and Rob also discuss the patients’ eye view of being the patient in crisis and receiving care from EMS.


    The fentanyl boogeyman: Is exposure really that easy? Apr 29, 2022
    Show notes

    This episode of the Inside EMS Podcast is sponsored by FirstNet, Built with AT&T. FirstNet uses the latest technology to keep your lines of communication and data open – to help you respond faster, smarter and safer.

    In this episode of Inside EMS, co-hosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson discuss EMS1 Editor-in-Chief Kerri Hatt's recent article, "Fentanyl: Separating fact from fiction," which dispels the myths surrounding the drug and details how first responders should safely approach a scene where fentanyl is present.

    Additional resources:
    • Educate public safety partners about fentanyl protection
    • Opioid overdose: Fact vs. fiction
    • Fentanyl fever and MIH opiate interventions
    • MRSA, fentanyl, bed bugs: What are you bringing home with you?
    • 6 strategies to protect first responders from fentanyl
    • Quiz: Fact vs. fiction on fentanyl exposure

    Arrogant leadership: Are you alienating your work force? Apr 22, 2022
    Show notes

    In this episode of Inside EMS, co-hosts Chris Cebollero and Kelly Grayson discuss an article by Andrea Abbas, MS, NRP, IP, CP-C, "5 leadership flaws that hold us back." The duo discuss the difficulties of leading multi-generational crews, their own personal management styles, how complacency can cause a disconnect with field crews and more.

    According to Cebollero, "the true measurement of leadership success is how engaged, satisfied and productive the workforce is – everything else is extra gravy."

    This episode of the Inside EMS Podcast is sponsored by FirstNet, Built with AT&T. FirstNet uses the latest technology to keep your lines of communication and data open—to help you respond faster, smarter and safer.

    Contact us

    Enjoying the show? Contact the Inside EMS team at theshow@ems1.com to share ideas, suggestions and feedback, or let us know if you’d like to join us as a guest.


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