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Our Politics Remind Me of the Moonies w/ Teddy Hose - S4E4pt1 Jul 29, 2019

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Teddy Hose is a motion graphics artist and writer who grew up in the Unification Church of self-proclaimed messiah, Sun Myung Moon—or the “Moonies”. While its membership and businesses run worldwide, Teddy’s family lived on church properties near the Moon family estate in Tarrytown, New York until he was 13. Life around the Moons was a mix of summer camps, banquets, and close bonds in an international community. These pleasant memories came along with parental abandonment, paranoia around sex and the outside world, and prioritizing loyalty toward the super wealthy, sometimes violence from the Moon family. Teddy now lives in San Francisco as an artist and writer. His cult experience and research have become a topic in his stand up comedy, cartooning, and editorials. Teddy has also spoken on the topic in Vice, The Huffington Post, and A&E's Cults and Extreme Belief. He feels compelled to tell his story by what he has witnessed politically. Emotional and physical manipulation employed in the church polarized its members and prioritized them based on sexual obligations. Next week, hear more about the militaristic themes and influence of Unification Church doctrine.
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Organizing Justice w/ Samantha Manewitz, social worker - S4E3 Jul 23, 2019

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Samantha Manewitz is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and educator, and AASECT certified social worker currently based in Massachusetts. Rachel and Samantha discuss harm reduction and the processes of restorative and transformative justice. Optimistically, survivors forming the pods believe that change is possible for their perpetrators. She elaborates on the transformative justice 'pods' that were created by survivors of the Franklin Veaux scandal as well as how they operate. Diving into the systems that are responsible for enforcing justice, the conversation comes to include Scientology's justice systems and use of gaslighting. Hear more about Franklin Veaux from Eve Rickert's two part episode: https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/eve-pt-2 (Part 2) Learn more about Samantha's site, "Safety Beyond Safewords" here: https://www.beyondsafewords.com/ Stay tuned, Before You Go: "Do as I Say, Not as I Do" as a catchphrase among narcissists. Rachel calls out institutional betrayal of survivors and the effect of neglecting to create consequences for abuse.
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Walking Through an Imbalanced World w/ Brie Loskota, USC Director of CRCC - S4E2 Jul 21, 2019

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Brie Loskota, from the University of Southern California's Center for Religion and Civic Culture, explains 'capacity building' and how it empowers young leaders to advocate for themselves, for their communities, and for community peace building. Brie is a writer widely published and interviewed, with significant roles in many notable religious, public and governmental institutions, and she is the Director of the Safe Communities Institute at USC. Her work includes studying how people use their beliefs to make decisions. Commenting on the productivity of the political environment, Brie addresses how perfectionism has prevented progress. And that a lack of empathy for the "other" or cancellation of someone who doesn't meet personal ideals is a narcissistic outlook. Stay tuned, Before You Go: Rachel talks about Brie's quote "The biggest force against us is our own indifference". And she also explains 'compassion fatigue' and becoming overwhelmed by the feeling that you are unable to make a difference. More on the USC Center for Religion and Civic Culture: This department studies, documents, and helps communities understand the changes that shape religious cultures in Southern California and across the globe. Their goal is to engage scholars and build inclusive communities.
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Asking the Right Questions w/ Mike Kropveld, "infosecte"(infocult) - S4E1 Jul 09, 2019

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Listen in on a discussion with cult expert Mike Kropveld from Quebec, and his organization InfoCult. Quebec has cults too. They just operate in French! Beginning as an effort to rescue a friend from the Unification Church, the knowledge and attention he has gathered over the 40 years of his program continue to spread awareness and resources to their community and to the rest of the world-- including possibly the most unique collection of cultic literature in all of North America. Stay tuned, Before You Go: Rachel speaks about sharing information and creating a network to tackle large social issues. Keeping an open mind and interest will build nuanced understanding of issues we may not have been exposed to, and a safer world for all. Learn more about InfoCult at infocult.org, or find them on Facebook at facebook.com/infocult.infosecte.org
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Is Ending My Life The Only Way Out? w/ April, ex-Scientology - S3E15pt2 Jul 02, 2019

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Body language and speech are the tools we need to use to express nuanced feelings. But in Scientology and other groups like it, those who express sadness, grief, or doubt are labeled as strictly negative or troubled and treated as outliers for unsuccessfully suppressing their natural emotions. April returns for part two of her episode; opening up about her brother who is still living in a fog of Scientology, as well as her own experience with suicidal thoughts while in the group. When she began to reveal that she was unhappy in the group, instead of receiving help or compassion she was ostracized from her friends and group settings to the point of being kicked out. The Sea Organization prevents the young members in its guardianship from seeking outside help. Psychiatry, therapy, and medication are heavily demonized in this realm where many are in need of more information and support rather than mistreatment and interrogation.
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Escaping NXIVM w/ Catherine Oxenberg Re-Release - S2E4pt1 Jun 22, 2019

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IndoctriNation presents its first re-release from 10 months ago, when Rachel was joined by Catherine Oxenberg who had been fighting to pull her daughter away from the cult NXIVM. They discuss her book, Captive, and her daughter India's experience during and after leaving the group. Run by Keith Raniere, who was just convicted on all charges on June 19, 2019, the organization was heavily bankrolled by billionaire Seagram's heiress Clare Bronfman and others. Catherine consulted Rachel after discovering that her daughter was recruited into the secret upper-echelon called "DOS", where its members were nearly starved and branded. There will be a follow-up episode with Catherine soon! Stay tuned, Before You Go: Explore the struggle of stepping in as a parent to an adult who is being manipulated by undue influence. Rachel encourages people who care about their loved ones in compromising situations to ask hard questions, even if it means being seen as critical.
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"You Only Know What You Know" w/ April, ex-Scientology - S3E15pt1 Jun 18, 2019

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April’s former fear of psychology, medication, therapy, and even yoga were ingrained from a young age as she grew up in the Church of Scientology. She was taught to view mental health specialists as people who only wanted to capitalize on other people’s problems, and issue brainwashing medications. Scientology auditing replaced programs that could be helpful, and instead used their power to take advantage of the participants’ fears and need for acceptance. Rachel and April discuss the cause of epidemic suicide in young people who have no one to turn to outside of an abusive organization, after going through behavior modifications. Stay tuned, Before You Go: Rachel offers advice for breaking the cycle of manipulation when an abuser refuses to acknowledge their role. She encourages those who feel guilty for speaking up or taking action to be confident in their critical thinking skills.
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To Err Is Human, To Forgive Divine w/ Chanon Bloch on post-Apartheid - S3E13pt2 Jun 11, 2019

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This episode, titled after the Alexander Pope quote, is a small component to a deeply thought out response from Chanon Bloch and Rachel. After receiving large amounts of both positive and negative comments, the two respond to the backlash of their first episode (link below) by pointing out that this is precisely how a majority can continue to remain indoctrinated. Using South Africa's apartheid as his personal example, Chanon opened up a few weeks ago and challenged listeners to examine their own biases and behavior. Challenging thoughts by nature are not easy to accept, and are easily confused as a threat. He believes indoctrinated prejudice is a force that must be conquered in order to fully hold ourselves accountable; breaking and ending biased views instead of allowing them to manifest a new form. Listen to Pt. 1 of this episode here: https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/channon-bloch
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National Racism and Fear w/ Chanon Bloch, on post-Apartheid - S3E13 May 21, 2019

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CW: racism Chanon Bloch takes our show in a new direction. Growing up in the peak of Apartheid (born 1957), he reflects on his childhood to unravel the embedded racism left behind by colonialism. He details, for the first time on this show, how racism is indoctrinated; through his experience growing up as a white man in South African society, with indentured servants. Dividing his own biases from reality, Chanon emphasizes the importance of taking the time to question any assumptions or fears that one may have, as well as their origins. Stay tuned, Before You Go: Rachel details her unsettling trip to South Africa, "post-Apartheid". New to the subject of "Apartheid"? Here is a very brief summary from the Al Jazeera Network: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd-BB5U9BAg
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If Hubbard Didn't Write It, It's Not True w/ Joey Chait, ex-Scientology - S3E12pt2 May 14, 2019

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Joey continues telling his story; presenting an internal system that is morally falling apart on itself. He shares details from the intense, intrusive Scientology auditing process. This included a mandatory HIV test -- even though he had no sexual history -- and being forced to read L. Ron Hubbard's deeply prejudiced science fiction novels, among other therapies, as punishment. This group has a history of censoring their members' search bars; shielding them from outside opinions and "exclusive knowledge". Joey speaks about coping with his experience in Scientology by hearing and sharing stories with survivors. Stay Tuned, Before You Go: Rachel contemplates how being made to suppress your emotions and natural reactions can make you afraid of them.
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