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    IndoctriNation

    Welcome to IndoctriNation: A weekly podcast covering cults, manipulators, and protecting yourself from systems of control.

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    BONUS PREVIEW: Evolutionary Biology and Cult Dynamics w/Jeremy Sherman Ph.D. Aug 05, 2022
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    This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive bonus episode, you can hear the episode in its entirety by becoming a member at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Jeremy Sherman is a Ph.D. in evolutionary epistemology. He describes himself as a cradle-to-grave science researcher studying the unbroken chain, from the origins of life to humankind's grave situation today. He has written over 1,000 articles for Psychology Today’s 9 million readers on everyday practicalities. Jeremy also lived for 7 years in an eco-village commune in Tennessee known as “The Farm”, where its 1400 residents elected him to a leadership role at just 24 years old. For the past 25 years, he has been a close research collaborator with Harvard and Berkeley neuroscientist Terrence Deacon. Jeremy says he’s all about making advanced ideas intuitive, practical, and funny because from a natural science perspective, the human condition is pretty ironic. His latest book is called "What's up with Assholes? Advanced Psycho-Proctology For Beginners” Jeremy returns to the show to further expand on his insights into cult dynamics from his unique lens of evolutionary biology. Together Jeremy and Rachel survey the current sociological and political landscape sharing ideas from their respective fields. Thanks to all of our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible!
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    A Little Bit Culty w/ Sarah Edmondson & Anthony "Nippy" Ames Aug 01, 2022
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    Sarah Edmundson and Anthony "Nippy" Ames are survivors of the NXIVM cult and hosts of the A Little Bit Culty Podcast. They are the married couple and whistleblowers documented in the critically-acclaimed HBO series “The Vow,” Sarah and Nippy have a lot to say about their experience, and burning questions to ask people with similar stories. They’re here to help people understand, heal from, and avoid abusive situations one little red flag at a time. Sarah and Nippy are also both successful actors and producers. In 2019, Sarah published Scarred: The True Story of How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult that Bound My Life. In this moving and insightful conversation Sarah and Nippy look back at their intensely dramatic time as a part of NXIVM, exploring the missteps and courageous actions they took along the way. The couple share with Rachel the uniquely complex relationship dynamics they experienced while in the group and the powerful love and devotion that kept them together. They explain how their relationship offered them the strength needed to leave and ultimately put an end to NXIVM and Keith Ranerie's destructive abuses. Before You Go: Rachel explores NXIVM's idea of inner deficiency, comparing the problematic diagnostic techniques found in some therapeutic practices to the manipulative narratives used by cult leaders. For more info on Sarah and Nippy's podcast visit: https://www.alittlebitculty.com/ Find more about Sarah's book here: https://www.sarahedmondson.com/ You can listen to our previous episodes on NXIVM here: https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/sets/nxivm Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters: Jamie Gunning, Brett Jellen, Gabrielle Coleman, Danielle Hirokane, Jena Higdon, Rebecca Sigel, Cecilia, The New Inquiry, Kymberley Alberts Sauer, Kristen King, Elizabeth Wolfington, Ryan Pence, Amanda Smith, Julia Colmenero-Skeaff, Niamh McGee, Jo A Gardner and, Amber Berger To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination You can help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!
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    Examining The Community w/ N. Jamiyla Chisholm Jul 27, 2022
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    N. Jamiyla Chisholm was born in New York City and grew up in Brooklyn. She graduated from City College in New York City, received her master of arts in teaching from the University of Southern California, and received her MFA from the Writer’s Foundry at St. Joseph’s College in Brooklyn. As a journalist, Jamiyla has written countless articles focused on culture, race, and women, and she has worked with numerous media companies and publications, including COLORLINES, Essence, TIME’S UP, VIBE, and The Source. Jamiyla is an avid traveler, runner, and language learner. She lives in Brooklyn with her cat Reesies. Jamiyla joins Rachel to discuss her brief but impactful time living in an Islamic commune in Brooklyn run by the infamous cult leader Dwight York. In this revealing conversation, as in her new book The Community, Ms. Chisholm utilizes her skills as an experienced journalist to provide Rachel with deep insights into her early life in this high-control group. Throughout the conversation, Jamilya explains the effects of the organization's family separation policy as Rachel offers her thoughts on the devastating nature of childhood neglect that's all too common in cultic groups. Before You Go: Rachel focuses further on Jamiyla's admission that as a child she felt somehow at fault for being separated from her mother, explaining the long-lasting feelings of helplessness and even inferiority that often accompany these types of neglect in early childhood. For more information visit: http://www.njamiylachisholm.com You can find Jamilya's book here: https://www.amazon.com/Community-N-Jamiyla-Chisholm/dp/1542037395 Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters: Aisha Mitchell Camerer, Ingrid Holm, Kirsten Blackburn, Will, Ali Vaughan, Baylie Freeman, Mavis Seehaus, Rebecca L Walter, Cat, Jessica, Julia, Jess, and Sarah O'Mahoney To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination You can help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!
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    BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: Experiencing Awe w/Dr.Yuval Laor Jul 22, 2022
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    This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus episode, you can hear the episode in its entirety by becoming a member at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Dr. Yuval Laor is a prominent behavioral and cultural scientist who studies evolutionary biology and religion. A graduate of Tel Aviv University and specializing in religious fever and awe, he is highly influential in the world of academic cult studies. Yuval returns to the show to share with Rachel some of his findings on temporal lobe epilepsy and the hyper-religiosity it can induce. He goes on to explain the personality traits of those who suffer from this condition and how they coincide with those of cult leaders. Throughout the conversation, Rachel confirms some of the neurological conclusions Yuval outlines by comparing them to her own experience working with cult survivors. Thanks so much to our Patrons for making this episode possible!
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    Escape Through The Window w/Sarah Rose Jul 20, 2022
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    Sarah Rose is a native of the San Francisco Bay Area. She received a BA in Judaic Studies from UC Berkeley, a Certificate in Environmental Restoration and Watershed Management from Merritt College, and most recently a Masters's Degree in Rehabilitation Counseling from New Mexico Highlands University. She is also a cult survivor and wrote about her harrowing experience in her book “Escape Through the Window” which is available now on Amazon. Sarah's breathtaking story was also covered in Season 2 of Identification Discovery’s series “Dangerous Persuasions” Sarah joins Rachel to detail some of the traumatic experiences she writes about in her book, sharing survival tactics from her long and ongoing journey towards healing. Throughout their intimate conversation, Rachel offers Sarah insights gained from her decades of helping people recover from cultic abuse, and together they examine the pitfalls and benefits of writing about experiences that have caused lasting traumas. Before You Go: Rachel offers advice on how to reassess first impressions and explains the dynamics of secrecy and transparency in high control groups or relationships. You can find Sarah's book here: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21134900-escape-through-the-window Watch her story as portrayed in Investigation Discovery's Dangerous Persuasions series here: https://tv.apple.com/us/episode/hes-my-master/umc.cmc.5sdlt6e4nzgbn1iubg0582wl9?showId=umc.cmc.5y5pglgl3kmwftqwkgnjfpwq4 Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters: Aisha Mitchell Camerer, Ingrid Holm, Kirsten Blackburn, Will, Ali Vaughan, Baylie Freeman, Mavis Seehaus, Rebecca L Walter, Cat, Jessica, Julia, Jess, and Sarah O'Mahoney To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination You can help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!
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    From Cradle To Grave Situation w/Jeremy Sherman, Ph.D. Jul 13, 2022
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    Jeremy Sherman is a Ph.D. in evolutionary epistemology. He describes himself as a cradle-to-grave science researcher studying the unbroken chain, from the origins of life to humankind's grave situation today. He has written over 1,000 articles for Psychology Today’s 9 million readers on everyday practicalities. Jeremy also lived for 7 years in an eco-village commune in Tennessee known as “The Farm”, where its 1400 residents elected him to a leadership role at just 24 years old. For the past 25 years, he has been a close research collaborator with Harvard and Berkeley neuroscientist Terrence Deacon. Jeremy says he’s all about making advanced ideas intuitive, practical, and funny because from a natural science perspective, the human condition is pretty ironic. His latest book is called "What's up with Assholes? Advanced Psycho-Proctology For Beginners” Jeremy joins Rachel to share his unique insights into narcissistic leaders, the social and psychological dynamics of the high control groups they run, and the effect their pathologies have on followers. Jeremy offers his perspective of cultic dynamics through the lens of his field of evolutionary epistemology comparing notes with Rachel as she notices corresponding findings from her experience working with cult survivors. Before You Go: Rachel explores further Jeremy's ideas surrounding the dangers of shamelessness as a trait in leaders and the cumbersome nature of conscience. You can find all of Jeremy's articles, books, podcasts, and more here: https://jeremysherman.com Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters: Kirsten Cole, ShaSha, Allison Yena, Becca Upshaw, Vibeke J. Gardsten, Jeff Nelson, Trish Gratson, Jessica Mitchell, Jodi Springberg, Bonni Howard, and, Sarah Hinds To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination You can help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!
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    BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: Lessons From A Cult Interventionist w/ Joe Kelly Jul 08, 2022
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    This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus episode, you can hear the episode in its entirety by becoming a member at: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Joseph Kelly is a cult interventionist and recipient of the lifetime achievement award from the International Cultic Studies Association(ICSA) Along with Pat Ryan, He is the co-founder of Intervention 101, where he has worked as a thought reform consultant and exit counselor since 1989. He spent 14 years in two different eastern meditation groups; Transcendental Meditation and The International Society of Divine Love. Joseph is a co-author of “Ethical Standards for Thought Reform Consultants,” published in ICSA’s Cultic Studies Journal, Mr. Kelly has also facilitated ICSA workshops for ex-members and families and has lectured extensively on cult-related topics. Joseph returns to the show to share some of his insights after 30 years of cult intervention work, explaining how his approach includes close consultation with qualified mental health professionals including Rachel. Joseph offers wise advice to those looking to help a loved one caught up in systems of control. Find more about Joseph's work here: www.intervention101.com Thanks so much to our Patrons for making this episode possible!
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    Leaving Fundamentalism w/ Andrew Pledger Jul 06, 2022
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    Andrew Pledger is a religious trauma survivor who was raised in fundamentalist Christianity. He has been homeschooled his entire life for the purpose of indoctrination. His parents would only pay for a Christian university, and he chose Bob Jones University. Andrew kept his sexuality a secret until his mental health declined due to repressing emotions, sexuality, and religious trauma. For his last year of college, he created a photo series that depicted religious trauma. To bring awareness to religious trauma; he appeared on Josh Harris’s IGTV show to talk about his photo series. Bob Jones was made aware of the video, and he was expelled the last semester of his college career. These experiences have inspired him to pursue psychology to help religious trauma survivors. He is now on a mission of using social media to share his story and bring awareness to religious trauma. ----------------------Content Warning: Discussion of Suicidal Ideation--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In this intimate and revealing conversation Andrew shares with Rachel his journey of leaving Christian fundamentalism explaining how the deeply embedded religious trauma caused undue suffering and eventually forced him to leave the church. Throughout the discussion, Rachel provides insights from a psychological perspective pointing out experiences commonly shared by recent survivors of religious trauma and coercive control. Before You Go: In this unique outro segment, Rachel is once again joined by Andrew who shares some life updates and explains how the recent Supreme Court rulings have soured his recent escape from Christian fundamentalist control. You can learn more about Andrew's projects and advocacy work here: https://liinks.co/4ndrewpledger Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters: Kirsten Cole, ShaSha, Allison Yena, Becca Upshaw, Vibeke J. Gardsten, Jeff Nelson, Trish Gratson, Jessica Mitchell, Jodi Springberg, Bonni Howard, and, Sarah Hinds To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination You can help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!
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    Living With Self-Loathing w/ Zack Bonnie Pt. 2 Jun 29, 2022
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    Zack Bonnie “graduated” from Rocky Mountain Academy at age sixteen, and then attended regular high school to fill the gaps in his education. He went on to college, an acting career in New York, tournament gambling, and adventures around the world. He is now an activist for the human rights of teens confined in residential facilities. Zack makes his home near the Blue Ridge Mountains of Central Virginia, where he loves to hike. Author of the Dead, Insane, or in Jail book series, Zack takes readers into the inner workings of the facility where he lived, and the impact the school had on his hyper-stimulated young mind. Incarcerated at age fourteen at a school for troubled teens in Northern Idaho, Zack has crafted a fast-moving, plot-driven memoir, with vivid characters and telling details, where even simple English words take on sinister meanings. In this second half of their two-part conversation, Zack opens up to Rachel about his own horrific experiences in the grips of the Troubled Teen Industry, detailing his teenage years spent at Rocky Mountain Academy as well as in "wilderness therapy". Rachel provides insight into the lingering psychological effects that can occur from the "tough love" techniques commonly employed in teen residential treatment programs Before You Go: Rachel explains how rehabilitation centers whose technique of encouraging growth through suffering is counter-productive and only appears to be effective because of the visceral response displayed by its victims. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you or someone you know is seeking abortion care, go to AbortionFinder.org now to learn about your options. You can find a list of local abortion funds by state here: https://abortionfunds.org/funds/ The Yellowhammer Fund serves the Deep South, especially Alabama and Mississippi: https://www.yellowhammerfund.org/ Indigenous Women Rising has an abortion fund open to all Indigenous people in the United States and Canada: https://airtable.com/shrLw8oy9UTIPkpXv You can also donate to Planned Parenthood, which provides sex education and reproductive care around the country: https://www.plannedparenthood.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Find Zack's books on Amazon here: amzn.to/2hznZVR More information on Zack at: www.deadinsaneorinjail.com If you'd like to support Zack's work directly please consider becoming a patron: www.patreon.com/ZackDIJ Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters: Sarah Hinds, Anna Stanuch, Caitlin Benson, Fiona Jeyachandran, George, Atiya Wahab, Rene Steelman, Angela Marie, Ietseatapples, Anita Lehn, Deena, Lindsey, Roxanne, Megan Miller, Bobbie Andrews To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination You can help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!
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    BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: The Underground Bunker w/ Tony Ortega Jun 24, 2022
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    This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive Bonus episode, you can hear the episode in its entirety by becoming a member at: https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination Tony Ortega is a journalist and former editor of The Village Voice. He is of course best known for his daily blog about the Church of Scientology called The Underground Bunker and is one of the most prominent and influential journalists to cover Scientology which he has been doing since 1995. Tony is also the author of The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper, about journalist Paulette Cooper and the Church of Scientology's attempts to silence her after her own book was published. He continues to monitor breaking developments in Scientology around the world from an undisclosed location, publishing a new article every day, and remains one of Scientology's favorite targets for harassment. Tony joins Rachel to discuss Scientology's latest controversies, his legendary work on The Underground Bunker, and the future of the dwindling authoritarian organization. Together, Rachel and Tony examine the harassment tactics Scientology employs against critics, which they have both experienced personally, and lament the forced separation so many families have suffered at the hand of Scientology. Find all of Tony's articles and links to his books here: https://tonyortega.org Thanks so much to our Patrons for making this episode possible!
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