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Inclusive Stages

Inclusive Stages is the go-to weekly podcast for theater makers, theater artists and theater lovers who want to make our industry a better place for everyone. We’ll chat with actors, directors, designers, scholars and more about the current landscape of the theater scene, and get their thoughts on how we can do better. Host Kira Troilo will also give you a sneak peak into live EDI coaching sessions, and offer actionable tips for creating more equitable, inclusive and empathetic theater spaces that support and value the diversity of artists and audiences. Join the conversation, and let’s collectively shape the future of care-forward creative spaces, one stage at a time.

Copyright: © 2024 Inclusive Stages

Latest Episodes:

3 Black Women, 3 Takes: Inclusion Work in 2024 Nov 19, 2024

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Welcome to a very special episode of the Inclusive Stages podcast. A conversation centered around defining inclusion, creating a shared vision for this work, and establishing a brave space for difficult conversations. Because we can only become stronger and more connected people, organizations, and artists when we learn how to engage in hard conversations.

I'm joined by two of my favorite collaborators and incredible colleagues, Zena Collins and Dr. Charmain Jackman. We sit down to discuss the state of inclusion work—especially the big question of how to keep pushing forward as inclusion practitioners despite what’s going on in the world around us.

I hope this episode can serve as a model for creating brave spaces built on trust, respect, relationship building, and what it looks like to engage in conversations from that place.

Grab all the links and resources mentioned in this episode at:

https://www.inclusivestages.com/post/3-black-women-3-takes-inclusion-work-in-2024

Connect with Zena:
LinkedIn

Connect with Dr. Charmain:
Instagram

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

The View from the Pit with Music Director Dan Rodriguez Nov 12, 2024

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As a music director, Dan Rodriguez knows how critical inclusion is in theater and the arts. It’s critical in often unseen places like the pit, where you’ll find musicians, vocal performers, and the music director. Music directors tend to be with production processes the longest, which means they understand and have a unique position of influence within a show. In this conversation, we discuss Dan’s journey into theater, the importance of trust between performers and music directors, vocal health, and how Dan supports transgender actors. I hope you enjoy the show!

Grab all the links and resources mentioned in this episode at:
https://www.inclusivestages.com/post/the-music-director-view-from-the-pit

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Why ‘Brave Spaces’ In Theater Should Be Non-Negotiable Nov 05, 2024

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Brave spaces, I hope you'll agree, aren't a luxury in the arts. They’re a necessity for theater lovers and professionals. Without them, we can't push the boundaries of art and storytelling in a way that's healthy and sustainable. And isn't that what we're all here to do? Create art and theater that's daring and meaningful and makes a difference. There's a lot of wisdom we can take from physically demanding jobs like stunt performers. Join me for this episode, where I’m sharing the 5 specific things we can do to create brave spaces for theater professionals!

Grab all the links and resources mentioned in this episode at:
https://www.inclusivestages.com/post/Why-Brave-Spaces-In-Theater-Should-Be-Non-Negotiable

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Run a Thriving Arts Business in a Post-Pandemic Era with Aubrey Bergauer Oct 29, 2024

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There’s a business case to be made for theater companies and arts organizations. We need to fill the seats with more dedicated theater lovers and friends. To do that, it’s important to be inclusive of the community we serve, think outside the box, and consider how we can welcome new audience members in a thoughtful, sustainable way. Aubrey Bergauer joins me for this conversation, where she shares more about the math of diversity, the untapped potential of the subscription economy, and the best approach to change management! Enjoy the show, friends!

Grab all the links and resources mentioned in this episode at https://www.inclusivestages.com/post/run-a-thriving-arts-business-in-a-post-pandemic-era-with-aubrey-bergauer

Connect with Aubrey:
Instagram

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Inclusive By Design: Costumes, Hair & Working with Gen Z Oct 15, 2024

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Being a theater costume designer is about so much more than creating an outfit someone will wear for a performance. It’s about seeing that person, collaborating with them, and empowering them to bring this character to life night after night! Raquel Adorno began as a stage performer and, over time, transitioned into her most impactful role—theater costume designer. She shares about her entire journey—including what it’s been like being a mom and theater professional.

Grab all the links and resources mentioned in this episode at https://www.inclusivestages.com/post/professional-theater-costume-designer

Connect with Raquel:
Instagram
Website

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

EDI That Actually Works for Theater Culture Change with Alexa Smith Oct 08, 2024

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There are so many other talented, dedicated, and caring folks out here supporting everyone who brings a production to life. And this conversation is actually the very first time I met Alexa Smith! She’s had a very similar journey to me with acting, motherhood, and EDI consulting. Alexa shares about her early acting career, what led her to become a consultant, and (possibly my favorite topic) how she’s navigated motherhood in the theater industry. Get ready for an amazing conversation, theater friends!

In this episode, you will:

Discover how Alexa came to be an EDI consultant in the arts.
Uncover how Alexa navigated those early days of motherhood and acting.
Learn what a day in the life at The Public is like for Alexa.

Full Show Notes Here!

Mentioned Resources
Hell’s Kitchen on Broadway
Beyond Accessibility w/ Brennan Srisirikul

Connect with Alexa:
Website
Instagram
LinkedIn

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

The #1 Missing Skill in the Theater Industry Oct 01, 2024

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I'm making good on a promise from my last solo episode—I’m talking about one of the most important and underrated skills that is missing from the theater industry. We haven't been educated about it, and yet it’s at the heart of all our creative work. Have you guessed what it is yet? When I say the word, it typically elicits groans—so get ready to groan. It's feedback and feedback resilience. Now you may be thinking, what does feedback have to do with inclusion? The answer: it's everything, friends! And today, you’re going to learn the difference between constructive criticism and negative feedback, about feedback triggers and barriers, as well as what you can do in your role to encourage feedback culture in an organization.

In this episode, you will:

Uncover what types of feedback are common and are missing from the arts.
Discover what feedback resilience is and the role mindset plays.
Learn how to create a feedback culture within a theater organization.

Full Show Notes Here!

Mentioned Resources
Thanks for the Feedback (book)

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Reclaiming Agency & Naming the Elephant in the Room with Jennifer Apple Sep 24, 2024

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It’s hard to know how much of yourself to bring to a character as an actor. There’s also the question of which roles to even audition for? It can be absolutely exhausting trying to figure out which boxes to put yourself in and what to do with your talents in this industry. Which is why I’m grateful Jennifer Apple is here with me for this conversation! She shares how actors can take back their agency, why it’s critical you bring yourself to the character, and where the theater industry could use a redirect. We also get into the importance of naming the elephant in the room, but not talking about the elephant. Enjoy the show!

In this episode, you will:

Discover how burnout has impacted Jennifer personally.
Learn the importance of actors exploring & reckoning with themselves as human beings.
Uncover the ways in which actors can take back their agency.

Please note that this episode mentions October 7th, which may be sensitive for some listeners.

Full Show Notes Here!

Mentioned Resources
The Empowered Artist Collective: Kira
The Band’s Visit

Connect with Jennifer:
Website
Instagram
LinkedIn
Podcast

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

In the Room Where It Happens: Politics & Parenting with Jared Dixon Sep 17, 2024

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Politics is a part of not only the musical “Hamilton” but also the theater industry itself. From theater governance to policies that affect parents to actor taxation, there’s a whole section of theater that you may not be aware of—yet! If we hope to see change, we must take action. And that’s one major theme of this episode with Jared Dixon. Jared joins me for an incredible conversation! He shares about life pre-pandemic, becoming a husband and homeowner, how parenting has impacted his acting career, and the special bonds he has with castmates. Press play and launch into this deep discussion!

In this episode, you will:

Uncover what the theater industry could do to be more supportive of parent actors.
Discover the impact Hamilton the musical has had in modern politics.
Learn what we can do now to make change and opportunities happen.

Full Show Notes Here!

Mentioned Resources
Actors’ Equity
Hamilton

Connect with Jared:
Website
Instagram

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Hiring Black Artists? Consider These 5 Key Things First Sep 10, 2024

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One easy way to show that you value black actors and members of your production team is to have thought things through ahead of time. Another is to ask for and actually act on feedback. There is so much I want to share on this topic, so what better way than to record a podcast and share that with you? Today’s solo episode—and season 2 opener for the Inclusive Stages Podcast—is centered around my top 5 points all theaters and leaders should consider before hiring folks of color. This is, of course, a shame-free zone and I share these insights with love in the hope for more inclusive stages in the future!

In this episode, you will:

Discover how much diversity we’re seeing behind-the-scenes in performance spaces.
Uncover what theater makers and leaders should consider before hiring black artists.
Learn how we can actually work toward improvement and growth in the theater industry.

Full Show Notes Here!

Mentioned Resources
LaChanze
Mixed Hair Article
Being a Black Actor on “The List”
Mics for all skin tones
Ebook

Related Episodes
Corbin Bleu / color-conscious casting
Tori / how to support actors portraying racial trauma

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Relationships, Race, & Reviving Curiosity with Jared Troilo Jun 25, 2024

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At work, Jared and I try to stay as far apart as possible because he’s the actor and I’m the EDI consultant. This is Jared, as in Troilo—my husband and father to our son, Levi! This conversation is a huge treat for us! Join us as we discuss Jared’s 20+ year acting career, parenting in the theater industry, relationship building, the importance of curiosity, and the behind-the-scenes of starting my company and this podcast! It’s been quite a wild ride, and as we close out Season 1 of Inclusive Stages, I’m so thrilled to be able to have this open, honest, and vulnerable conversation with Jared. You definitely won’t want to miss this episode—especially the personal life update we share! Enjoy the show!

In this episode, you will:

Uncover how conversations with Jared during the 2020 racial reckoning inspired Kira’s EDI work.
Discover the benefits of raising children in and around the theater community.
Learn how we can create rooms where disagreement is—and still create a culture of belonging.

Full Show Notes Here!

Mentioned Resources
Consent-Forward Practices & Care-Forward Leadership with Leigh Barrett
Setting Boundaries BTS for Racism On Stage
Guys & Dolls
An American in Paris
About Fate
Fascinating Rhythm

Connect with Jared:
Website
Instagram

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

We Know How To Fix the Entertainment Industry Jun 18, 2024

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There are many conversations happening about mental health and the arts—but not much is being done about it. Art is a powerful medium for change, yet education is being minimized and artists aren’t being handled with care. Which is why it fills me with such joy to introduce you to these two incredible powerhouses who are in fact doing this work alongside me! Please meet Zena Collins and Dr. Charmain Jackman. In this roundtable discussion, you’ll hear more about how we connected with each other, the inclusion work we’ve each been doing, and how we’ve been ideating ways to work together to create even bigger change for the stage!

In this episode, you will:

Discover how Dr. Charmain is providing therapeutic interventions & improving workplace well-being.
Uncover how Zena is using the model of emotional intelligence to create safe spaces for creatives.
Learn how Kira, Dr. Charmain, and Zena are teaming up to change the culture of the stage.

Full Show Notes Here!

Links & Mentioned Resources
Art & Soul Consulting
Setting the Stage: Introducing Kira Troilo

Connect with Zena:
Website
LinkedIn
Theatre503

Connect with Dr. Charmain:
Website
Instagram
LinkedIn

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Why I Needed to Retire from Acting (For Now) Jun 11, 2024

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Today, I want to talk about something I’ve wanted to share for a while—why I decided to retire from acting. On this podcast, I ask other actors and artists to come on and be vulnerable. I invite them to share their stories and dig deep with me. So it’s only fair that I do that myself. In this episode, I’m sharing my experiences as a commercial and theater actor—as a mom and an actress—and what ultimately led me to retire from the stage. Join me for this raw solo conversation, and please let me know if there’s anything from my story you can relate to. I’d love to hear from you!

In this episode, you will:

Discover why I decided to retire from acting.
Uncover what those final modeling and acting experiences were like for me.
Learn what plans I have—including if I have plans to get on stage again.

Full Show Notes Here!

Mentioned Resources
Art & Soul Consulting

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Ups & Downs of B'way Behind-the-Scenes & Reclaiming “Fat” w/ Katy Geraghty Jun 04, 2024

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When discussing inclusion in musical theater and the arts, body diversity must be a part of that conversation. Actors come in all shapes and sizes—with all of the lived experiences that go along with their bodies. The audition process can be a source of trauma—or inspiration! The performances themselves can be hurtful—or empowering! My guest today, Katy Geraghty, is a New York-based actor, performer, and teacher. And as a self-proclaimed fat woman she’s on a mission to take back the power of words and highlight the talent that is within each one of us! Katy and I chat about everything from Broadway auditions and acting alongside a star-studded cast to life on tour and her scariest performance. Press play and enjoy the show, theater friend!

In this episode, you will:

Discover the incredibly wild acting ride Katy has been on just the last couple of years.
Uncover what Katy noticed and experienced about auditioning and body diversity.
Learn how Katy feels about the word “fat” in the world of acting (and her mission with language).

Full Show Notes Here!

Links & Mentioned Resources
Come From Away Interview w/ Aaron Michael Ray
Broadway Bodies w/ Ryan Donovan
Bliss the Musical

Connect with Katy:
Instagram
TikTok

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Transitioning, Type-Casting & Learning from Each Other Offstage May 28, 2024

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Telling stories in the theater is evolving. There are intimacy coordinators and EDI consultants like me. But the real change is happening by the real people having real conversations and real growth with each other in real time. These productions aren’t just opportunities for the audience to grow and gain a different perspective—we, as actors, get to do this as well! And when I collaborated with Carlee Fallon and Carolyn Saxon, I just knew I wanted to be able to share their story. Today I’m talking with these two amazing women about all things inclusion, the theater, and bravely having those uncomfortable conversations to grow as humans. I know you’ll love these two—so please, enjoy the show!

In this episode, you will:

Discover how Carlee & Carolyn found healing & empowerment in the theater.
Learn the power of asserting your boundaries and using your voice.
Uncover how to handle mistakes with grace.

Full Show Notes Here!

Links & Mentioned Resources
Uplift
Connect with Carlee:
Instagram
Connect with Carolyn:
Lyric Stage
Greater Boston Stage
Facebook

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

How To Create an Inclusive Rehearsal Room Culture May 21, 2024

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Creating inclusive spaces in rehearsal rooms is just one piece of the puzzle. But it has a huge ripple effect! Who wouldn’t want to feel heard, seen, and valued, right? (And this doesn’t just go for the actors, friends…) Part of my mission with this podcast is to share what I’ve learned—and continue to learn—on my journey as an EDI consultant. So today, I’m walking you through my CULTURE Roadmap. This roadmap helps establish the culture of the rehearsal and performance spaces for every single show I work with. I hope you find this helpful and I cannot wait to connect after the show!

In this episode, you will:

Discover who benefits most from having an inclusive culture in rehearsal rooms.
Uncover how to create an intentionally inclusive environment for rehearsals and performances.
Learn what the Rehearsal Room CULTURE Roadmap is and how to use it.

Full Show Notes Here!

Mentioned Resources
Atomic Habits (book)
CULTURE Roadmap PDF

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Beyond Accessibility: Disability Representation in Theater with Brennan Srisirikul May 14, 2024

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Disability representation in theater is still a misunderstood and even avoided topic. But I’m hoping to change that with today’s conversation. Meet Brennan Srisirikul, a talented disabled actor, producer, and advocate! We bonded over coffee and the fact that, while progress has been made when it comes to disability and theater, there’s still work to do. We discuss everything from how we can tell disabled stories better, auditioning as a disabled person, and how to navigate the topic of disability with kindness. In this vulnerable interview, Brennan makes a beautiful point—disability breeds so much creativity. I know you’re going to love Brennan and this interview, so please—press play and enjoy the show!

In this episode, you will:

Discover what the audition process is like as a disabled actor.
Uncover how Brennan found belonging thanks to his chorus teacher.
Learn what authentic casting is and how it applies to disabled stories.

Full Show Notes Here!

Mentioned Resources

Disabled Down Center

Connect with Brennan:

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Consent-Forward Practices & Care-Forward Leadership with Leigh Barrett May 07, 2024

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Being a “consent-forward artist” or birthing a “care-forward creative space” sounds lovely, but it’s a BIG job. The theater industry has historically had a “just push through” mentality. Thankfully, we’ve seen that begin to shift in the last few years, but not without some damage being done. Leigh Barrett is a beloved Boston-based actor, singer, and director, and she knows all too well the labor of changing what leadership looks like. In this episode, Leigh and I discuss how we (as actors, directors, and theater lovers) can bring more connection and conversation to a production—or even simply bring balance into our own lives. Leigh and I get into all this and more. Press play and enjoy the show!

In this episode, you will:

Discover how Leigh has taken her experiences as an actor and used them to be an incredible leader and director.
Uncover the freedom Leigh discovered in being her FULL, authentic self!
Learn what it’s like to balance being a mother and an actor.

Full show notes here!

Mentioned Resources
The Last Five Years

Connect with Leigh:
Website

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Tour Life & EDI Conversations with Aaron Michael Ray Apr 30, 2024

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How often do you get asked about your lived experiences? All those moments added up to create the person you are today, yet not all of us are fortunate enough to have people in our world willing to ask questions and listen to what we have to share. But Aaron Michael Ray saw a way to encourage, facilitate, and help all of us heal from conversations just like that.

I’m so excited to bring you this interview with my friend Aaron. He’s just coming off of the Come From Away Tour, which much of our conversation centers around. It was a call with that entire production that initially sparked the Conversations From Away podcast. The podcast was created to highlight the theater industry's social injustices and bring people together to fight for necessary change. Please enjoy this conversation with Aaron Michael Ray, and stay until the end to see where you can see him on stage next!

In this episode, you will:

Learn how Aaron went from musician to actor.
Discover how Aaron helped kickstart my EDI consultant journey.
Uncover the call that inspired the Conversations From Away Podcast.

Full Show Notes Here!

Connect with Aaron:

Conversations From Away Podcast

A Wonderful World

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Setting Boundaries Behind the Scenes for Racism On Stage Apr 23, 2024

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In order to tell a story, we need all aspects of the story. And that includes the difficult and tricky parts, the villains, the hurt. This conversation is real. It’s raw. It’s incredibly vulnerable. I’m joined by Victoria Omeregie and Jon Vellante in this first roundtable episode. I can’t think of two better actors for this conversation. I had the pleasure of working with them for Fairview at Speakeasy Stage in Boston. I hope you’ll join us as we discuss what it takes both on stage—but, more importantly, what it takes off-stage from the human being performing these really tough roles. (Spoiler alert: you will hear us share details about Fairview!)

In this episode, you will:

Discover how establishing boundaries and protocols facilitates safety and connection for everyone.
Uncover the value of talking across hard things and coming out feeling like family.
Learn how an EDI consultant can positively impact the people and the play.

Full Show Notes Here!

Connect with Victoria:

Fat Ham at the Alliance Theater in Atlanta

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Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Dangers of DEI Work Gone Wrong Apr 16, 2024

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Welcome to my first solo podcast episode! I’m discussing DEI work gone wrong and why I prefer to say EDI work. Words matter and there’s a very subtle difference between the two acronyms. I’ll share about the unique considerations for EDI work for the arts. But this episode is mostly focused on the 5 signs of bad DEI work we should all be aware of and my 5 commitments to you for the work we’re going to do with this podcast. What is DEI and EDI work truly about? What do shame, guilt, and vulnerability have to do with this? Why does bad DEI work simply not work? And what can we do about it?

I’ll be sharing all this and more in this episode! I’d love to hear your thoughts, so be sure to find me after the show!

In this episode, you will:

Discover what EDI and DEI work is all about.
Learn how to spot 5 different ways DEI work can be done poorly.
Learn my 5 commitments to you for this podcast.

Full Show Notes Here!

Links & Mentioned Resources

Atlas of the Heart

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
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Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Broadway Bodies: Industry Bias and Dreamgirls with Ryan Donovan Apr 09, 2024

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Have you ever stopped to think about the people—the actual humans—whose bodies are telling stories on stage? Or about the history of musical theater? How about the implicit bias that goes into what we see on stage? When I began doing EDI work for theater and the arts, I couldn’t find many resources about the topic of inclusion and Broadway musicals. That is… until I found the book called Broadway Bodies: A Critical History of Conformity.

You’ll meet author, dancer, and scholar Ryan Donovan in this episode. In this thoughtful conversation, we discussed some of our favorite shows and performers, the kinds of discrimination performers face in the industry, and what’s still left to be realized on stage. I know you're going to love this conversation, whether you're a theater artist, audience member, or just interested in learning more about the history of Broadway. But actors—I think you’ll feel very very seen in this conversation.

In this episode, you will:

Learn the history of bodies in musical theater.
Uncover where implicit biases show up, particularly in casting.
Discover the kinds of discrimination that performers face in the industry.

Full Show Notes Here!

Mentioned Resources

Broadway Bodies

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Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

The Power of Support and Color Conscious Storytelling with Corbin Bleu Apr 02, 2024

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Being a multiracial actor is a unique experience. You feel pulled in several directions quite often and don’t always see a spot for someone like you on the screen or stage. I’m so grateful to have Corbin Bleu joining me for this conversation about this very topic! Not only am I a fan, we recently had the chance to work together on the world premiere of Summer Stock at the Goodspeed Opera House. Corbin shares so many great insights for actors, and specific advice for taking care of yourself while being part of this wild industry. I know you'll love everything he has to say, so without further ado, let’s get to the show!

In this episode, you will:

Discover what it’s like to be a multiracial actor in newer and older productions.
Learn Corbin’s advice for actors, specifically about taking care of yourself.
Discover the value of having an EDI consultant to work with during a new production.

Full Show Notes Here!

Links & Mentioned Resources:

Looking Ahead Program

Connect with Corbin:

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
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Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Inclusion Consultants and Why Every Show Needs One Apr 02, 2024

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Other industries have people who can help employees and employers navigate conflict or difficult conversations, so why doesn’t the theater industry? Inclusion consultants (or EDI consultants) aren’t new, but it’s a newer role in theaters and the arts. Today, I’m sharing more about my work in this industry, how I got here, and what I’m doing to further this work and help even more people! Inclusive Stages isn’t just the name of this podcast—it’s a brand, a framework, and a movement. And it’s here to be the help we’ve needed for so long in performance and rehearsal spaces. Together, we’re going to change the industry—one stage at a time!

In this episode, you will:

Discover what Inclusive Stages is all about, what to expect, and who it’s for.
Learn questions to ask to be more inclusive in theater spaces.
Uncover why inclusion consultants are so needed in theater and other creative spaces.

Full Show Notes Here!

Links & Mentioned Resources

InclusiveStages.com

Certification Program

Support a Consultant

Membership **coming soon!

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
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Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Setting the Stage: Introducing Kira Troilo Apr 02, 2024

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This is your host, Kira Troilo, and today I’m joining you from the guest seat! In this podcast, I speak with theater makers, artists, directors, actors, and lovers and I ask them to share and be vulnerable. So, it only feels right for me to kick off the podcast by doing the same. You’ll hear about my childhood, life in the theater, who I am, the work I’m doing, and how exactly I got to this place. This episode means so much to me because, although I’ve written about my experiences, this is the first time I’ve shared my story using my voice. Thank you so much for being here! Enjoy the show!

In this episode, you will:

Uncover Kira’s backstory and how she became an inclusion consultant in the theater.
Discover what Kira does to keep herself in a space that’s good for her mental health.
Learn what Kira is excited about personally and professionally in 2024

Full Show Notes Here!

Links & Mentioned Resources
Biracial Mom Blog
Art and Soul Consulting
Connect with Rachel:
Website
TikTok
Instagram

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
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Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

Welcome to Inclusive Stages Mar 26, 2024

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Welcome to 'Inclusive Stages' -- the go-to weekly podcast for theater makers, theater artists and theater lovers who want to make our industry a better place for everyone. We'll chat with actors, directors, designers, scholars and more about the current landscape of the theater scene, and get their thoughts on how we can do better.
Host Kira Troilo will also give you a sneak peak into live EDI coaching sessions, and offer actionable tips for creating more equitable, inclusive and empathetic theater spaces that support and value the diversity of artists and audiences. Join the conversation, and let's collectively shape the future of care-forward creative spaces, one stage at a time.

Connect with Kira:
@kiratroilo
@artandsoulconsulting
@inclusivestages
"'Black Hair'" Is Hair: An Entertainment Industry Guide
Website
Become a Patron
Join our mailing list - scroll to the bottom of the page
Thanks for joining me on this episode of Inclusive Stages! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple or a rating on Spotify to help me reach more people ready to collectively shape the future of human-first theater, one stage at a time.

Thanks to our music composer, Zachary McConnell, and our producer, Leah Bryant.

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