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What the US Can Learn from Israel’s Vaccine Rollout (with Ronit Calderon-Margalit) Mar 08, 2021

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Dr. Bob calls up Hebrew University epidemiologist Ronit Calderon-Margalit to learn more about Israel’s best-in-the-world COVID-19 vaccine rollout. They cover how Israel did it, what the process of getting back to “normal” looks like now, and what lessons we can learn from their success. Plus, how the vaccines have held up against the so-called UK variant.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode:

Check out this article about Israel’s “green pass” program: https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/03/01/1020154/israels-green-pass-is-an-early-vision-of-how-we-leave-lockdown/
Here is the New England Journal of Medicine study on Israeli vaccination that Ronit mentions in today’s episode: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33626250/
Learn more about the vaccination effort in Palestine: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/27/world/middleeast/palestinians-west-bank-lockdown.html
Keep track of global vaccination rates here: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html
Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/

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Can the Arts Survive COVID? (with Marc, Jonah, and Ben Platt) Mar 03, 2021

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Dr. Bob learns how COVID-19 has affected the movie and live theater industries from Marc, Jonah, and Ben Platt. They discuss what it was like when everything had to shut down, how the arts have adapted, and what they think the return to normalcy will look like. Plus, Marc and Ben detail what it was like shooting the Dear Evan Hansen movie with the new COVID-19 protocols in place.

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Ben Platt is on Twitter and Instagram @BenSPLATT. Jonah Platt is on Twitter and Instagram @JonahPlatt.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode:

Watch The Platt Brothers’ entire performance from the Graduate Together virtual ceremony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYWeyZRMwGY
Learn more about the upcoming Dear Evan Hansen movie: https://deadline.com/2021/01/dear-evan-hansen-movie-release-date-ben-platt-amy-adams-julianne-moore-1234683675/
Check out Ben’s music on his website: https://www.benplattmusic.com/
Keep up with all of Jonah’s work at his website: https://jonahplatt.com/
Watch Ben and the cast of Dear Evan Hansen sing “You Will be Found” on The Late Late Show with James Corden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_10msPMEick
Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/

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How Science Became Political (with Peter Hotez) Mar 01, 2021

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Dr. Bob gives us a masterclass on vaccines with Baylor College of Medicine Dean Dr. Peter Hotez. Bob and Peter get into the variants, delaying the second dose, and the state of vaccinations around the world. They also discuss Peter’s work combating science misinformation, which caused him to be labeled the “OG Villain” by a prominent anti-vaccine personality.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode:

Order Peter’s latest book, Preventing the Next Pandemic: Vaccine Diplomacy in a Time of Anti-Science: https://jhupbooks.press.jhu.edu/title/preventing-next-pandemic
Read Peter’s article about the dangers of anti-science: https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3001068
Learn about the Baylor COVID-19 vaccine’s clinical trials in India: https://www.bcm.edu/news/biological-e-limited-and-baylor-covid-19-vaccine-begins-clinical-trial-in-india
Keep track of global vaccination rates here: https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/

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Andy Slavitt from Inside the White House Feb 24, 2021

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Dr. Bob catches up with Andy ahead of one of his White House COVID-19 press conferences to chat about what he’s been up to since temporarily leaving the show for a role in the Biden administration. They talk about the variants, the vaccines, and the administration's commitment to equity. Plus, a reflection on the U.S. passing 500,000 deaths, and how that’s pushing Andy to work even harder to bring an end to the pandemic.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode:

Watch President Biden’s full address at the vigil marking 500,000 COVID deaths in the United States: https://youtu.be/yCqua2rE0LA
Read more about the FDA’s new guidelines for vaccine developers addressing virus variants: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-issues-policies-guide-medical-product-developers-addressing-virus
Listen to Andy on The Hugh Hewitt Show talking about the vaccine rollout: https://hughhewitt.com/video/wh-covid-response-teams-andy-slavitt-and-hoovers-lanhee-chen-on-vaccine-rollout-variant-risk/
Check out the CDC’s updated quarantine recommendations for fully vaccinated people: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html
Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/

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Toolkit: Safe Or Not Safe Feb 22, 2021

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Can I hug Grandma after her vaccine? It's time for Dr. Bob's first Safe or Not Safe with Drs. Caitlin Rivers and Farzad Mostashari. This time, they cover post-vaccine activities. Can you go to the gym? Hang out with friends? Have Grandpa over? Go to Burning Man? All that and more on this toolkit episode of Safe or Not Safe.

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Follow Caitlin Rivers @cmyeaton and Farzad Mostashari @Farzad_MD on Twitter.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode:

Check out the CDC’s answers to frequently asked questions about the COVID-19 vaccines: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html
Read more about the CDC’s updated quarantine recommendations for fully vaccinated people: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html
Learn more about UC Berkeley’s ban on outdoor exercise: https://www.today.com/health/uc-berkeley-bans-outdoor-exercise-amid-covid-19-outbreak-t208900
Check out this Washington Post op-ed calling for clearer guidelines on what’s safe to do after vaccination: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/02/16/vaccinated-need-know-whats-safe-them-do/
Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/

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Good Healthcare Matters: Lessons from the Pandemic (with Don Berwick) Feb 17, 2021

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Dr. Bob dials up Dr. Donald Berwick for a big-picture discussion about improving healthcare – generally, and as it relates to COVID. Don talks about the origins of the patient safety movement, his time running the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services during the passage and implementation of the Affordable Care Act, and what lessons he's taking away from the pandemic. Plus, how to tackle the longstanding inequities in health care – and beyond – in America.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode:

Keep up with all the work being done at the Institute for Healthcare Improvement (IHI) at their website: http://www.ihi.org/
Check out the book Don mentioned, The Health Gap by Michael Marmot: https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/the-health-gap-9781632860781/
Learn more about the Swiss Cheese Model of pandemic defense: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/health/coronavirus-swiss-cheese-infection-mackay.html
Read the 1999 Institute of Medicine report on medical mistakes that Bob mentions in today’s episode: https://www.nap.edu/resource/9728/To-Err-is-Human-1999--report-brief.pdf
Watch Don’s full 2012 Harvard Medical School commencement speech: https://youtu.be/wmEbO58chac
Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/

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The Case For Reopening Schools (with Emily Oster) Feb 15, 2021

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Dr. Bob calls up Brown economist Emily Oster to discuss one of the most complicated and controversial issues of the pandemic: what to do about schools. Emily created the COVID-19 School Response Dashboard, a database that indicates that schools aren't a significant source of COVID-19 spread. She also talks about how the school debate ended up getting politicized, what it's like doing real-time data analysis, what elements need to be in place for successful school reopening, and how she’s managed her own kids during the pandemic.

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Follow Emily Oster on Twitter @ProfEmilyOster.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode:

Find a link to the COVID-19 School Response Dashboard here: https://covidschooldashboard.com/
Read the CDC’s new guidelines for reopening schools: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/community/schools-childcare/K-12-Operational-Strategy-2021-2-12.pdf
Pre-order Emily’s latest book, The Family Firm: A Data-Driven Guide to Better Decision Making in the Early School Years: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/639450/the-family-firm-by-emily-oster/
Keep up with all of Emily’s work at her website: https://emilyoster.net/
Read more about those advocating to make 3 feet the default distance between people in schools: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/12/three-feet-social-distancing-schools-coronavirus/
Check out the CDC report that Bob mentions in today’s episode on the NFL’s response to COVID-19: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7004e2.htm
Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/

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How to Lead During a Crisis (with Sully Sullenberger) Feb 10, 2021

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Dr. Bob talks about the importance of leadership, whether it's during a pandemic or a flight that's lost all engine power, with Captain Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger. The parallels between the two might not seem obvious, but Sully points out that the basic elements of good leadership can be applied in any situation. He also talks about how he and the crew landed Flight 1549 safely in the Hudson River, what lessons he took from that famous flight, and what caused him to speak out against what he calls a "vacuum of leadership" during the pandemic. Plus, what it's like to have Tom Hanks play you in a movie.

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Follow Sully Sullenberger on Twitter @Captsully.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode:

Listen to the full audio from inside the cockpit of Flight 1549 as it was going down in the Hudson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdHW8_1Svc4
Check out Sully’s 2018 Washington Post op-ed, urging Americans to vote for leaders who will “protect us all:” https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-saved-155-lives-on-the-hudson-now-lets-vote-for-leaders-wholl-protect-us-all/2018/10/29/554fd0e6-d87c-11e8-a10f-b51546b10756_story.html
Learn more about the Biden administration’s new COVID-19 travel safety measures, requiring face coverings on planes: https://www.npr.org/2021/01/21/959398694/no-mask-no-fly-biden-signs-order-requiring-face-coverings-on-planes
Keep up with all of Sully’s work, including recent blog posts on leadership during COVID-19, at his website: http://www.sullysullenberger.com/
Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/

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Inside Trump's FDA (with Stephen Hahn) Feb 08, 2021

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Dr. Bob gets the inside scoop of what went down inside Trump's FDA from the former commissioner himself, Dr. Stephen Hahn. In his first interview since stepping down on January 20th, Steve recounts his dizzying year heading the agency, including his decisions to grant Emergency Use Authorizations to hydroxychloroquine and convalescent plasma, how he ultimately defended a science-based vaccine approval process, and the unprecedented political pressure he felt throughout. Plus, how he's processing everything that happened now that he's been out of D.C. for a few weeks.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode:

Keep up to date on everything the FDA is doing with COVID-19: https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/counterterrorism-and-emerging-threats/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19
Learn about the FDA's recent decision to update their EUA for convalescent plasma: https://www.wsj.com/articles/fda-limits-use-of-convalescent-plasma-as-covid-19-treatment-11612537239
Read more about the political pressure Steve says he faced while leading the FDA under President Trump: https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/fda-trump-pressure-coronavirus-vaccine-460402
Check out this article on the politicized vaccine approval process: https://abcnews.go.com/US/sigh-relief-fda-chief-stephen-hahn-held-ground/story?id=74739442
Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/

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Is It OK to Hug Your Family after the Vaccine? (with Julia Marcus) Feb 03, 2021

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Dr. Bob calls up infectious disease epidemiologist Julia Marcus to discuss risk, a concept many of us thought more about in the past year than ever before. Julia, a Harvard professor and contributor to The Atlantic, talks about why people take risks, the danger in stigmatizing risk-taking, and how to weigh the benefits and costs surrounding risk during the pandemic. They also cover pandemic fatigue and how Julia envisions the return to a new normal. Plus, the first Andy update from Lana!

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Follow Julia Marcus on Twitter @JuliaLMarcus.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode:

Read Julia’s latest article for The Atlantic, “Vaccinated People Are Going to Hug Each Other:” https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/01/giving-people-more-freedom-whole-point-vaccines/617829/
Check out all of Julia’s COVID-19 Atlantic articles here: https://www.theatlantic.com/author/julia-marcus/
Read what Bob and other experts have to say about what’s safe to do post-vaccine in this Washington Post article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/02/01/vaccinated-people-precautions/
Learn more about Julia’s work with Harvard Medical School’s Department of Population Medicine: https://www.populationmedicine.org/jmarcus
Learn more about Dr. Bob Wachter and the UCSF Department of Medicine here: https://medicine.ucsf.edu/

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