In Our Defence

The ‘unsexy’ world of Indian spy agencies and decoding the Pannun murder ‘plot’ row | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 46 Nov 14, 2024

Recent events have put the Indian intelligence establishment under scrutiny, especially after a high-profile incident that raised questions about its effectiveness. An indictment filed by the U.S. Department of Justice on October 18 in a New York court charged Vikash Yadav and his associate Nikhil Gupta with murder-for-hire, conspiracy to commit murder, and money laundering. The target was Khalistani separatist and Sikhs For Justice founder Gurpatwant Singh Pannun in New York in June 2023.
Yadav, a former Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) officer, was reportedly working with India’s Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) at the time. The incident raises concerns about intelligence oversight.
But what does the intelligence world look like? What does the job of an intelligence officer truly entail? How are covert operations planned and executed, and where do the gaps lie? Does the Pannun incident reveal deeper issues within India’s intelligence framework?
In this episode, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor examine the intricacies of India’s intelligence agencies, often portrayed in a “Bollywoodised” lens of intrigue and mystery. They break down terms like “intel,” “actionable intelligence,” and “intelligence failure” and look past the sensationalised images to reveal the real challenges and operational dynamics faced by Indian intelligence.
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Why Indian Air Force is in hunt for fighter jets all over again| In Our Defence, S02, Ep 45 Nov 08, 2024

With a steady decline in active squadrons, the Indian Air Force (IAF) is currently operating well below its optimal strength of 42 squadrons. Numbers are expected to dip further as older aircraft retire.
In this episode, Shiv and Dev unpack India’s decision to initiate a new global competition for fighter jets to fill a critical gap in the IAF’s strength.
The IAF initially purchased 36 Rafales (far fewer than the original 126 needed); India’s MRFA tender—an acquisition plan for 114 fighter jets—aims to address this need.
But, with the Rafale already in service and extensively customised for Indian requirements, the duo questions the necessity of another costly, lengthy competition. Why repeat the process when the Rafale was chosen a decade ago? Yes, we do require more aircraft, but do we need another contest? Is political wrangling slowing down India’s defence readiness?
What’s driving this return to a complex competition, and can India afford further delays in bolstering its aerial capabilities?
They propose a straightforward contest between the Rafale and Boeing’s F-15, a newer contender, to streamline the acquisition and focus on India’s urgent defence needs.
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Decoding India-China border deal and looking at what's ahead for two militaries | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 44 Oct 25, 2024

India and China have agreed to resume military patrolling along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in eastern Ladakh, marking a step toward disengagement, Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri announced ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to Russia for the BRICS Summit. PM Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping held their first formal discussion since the 2020 border clashes, signalling renewed dialogue after years of military buildup on both sides.
In the latest In Our Defence podcast, host Dev Goswami and defence analyst Shiv Aroor break down this diplomatic shift. Does this signal an end to the four-year standoff, or could it be a temporary lull? How significant is the timing, and can these talks lead to tangible changes on the ground? Is this really a 'breakthrough' moment for India? While Modi and Xi’s recent talks may signal diplomatic progress, the hosts remain sceptical, questioning whether China’s intentions are ‘trustworthy’. They explore why India focuses less on trust and more on strategic caution, with each move on the LAC grounded in military readiness rather than expectations of goodwill.
The real test, the hosts suggest, lies in the details of implementation. Will there be clear timelines and phased steps, or will the process remain slow and complex? And what could a cautious, phased approach mean for long-term peace between the two countries? The hosts weigh in on what this could mean for the future of relations between the two nations.
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Nuclear-powered attack submarines cleared: How these ‘sharks’ will give Indian Navy new teeth | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 43 Oct 17, 2024

Can you picture a ship that can stay hidden under water for months on end, manoeuvre sharply and speedily, and surface at just at the right time, literally out of the blue, to wreak havoc on the enemy?
That's a nuclear-powered attack submarine, or SSN, for you. Nuclear strategist Rear Admiral Raja Menon (retired) once called these submarines "the ultimate arbiter of sea power".
But what it is about these submarines that makes them so lethal? Dev Goswami and Shiv Aroor take a deep dive on this and much more on the latest episode of In Our Defence.
The Cabinet Committee on Security recently gave the go-ahead to develop and build two of these ‘sharks’ under a project that has been long pending.
On this episode, Dev and Shiv take a look at the super capabilities of nuclear-powered attack submarines, why the Indian Navy desperately needs them, and edge that the two now under-development sharks will give once they are in service.
Crucially, the two also discuss why the project to build these submarines was hanging fire for so long and delve on the opportunities that were lost as a result.
This is and more on this insightful new episode. Tune in!
Produced & Mixed By: Kapil Dev Singh

Loyal wingman drones: Man-machine combine set to transform aerial warfare | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 43 Oct 10, 2024

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has announced that flight testing for India’s ‘Loyal Wingman’ drone will begin by 2024. Part of HAL’s Combat Air Teaming System, this indigenous drone will accompany manned IAF fighter jets, offering a new dimension in air combat by working alongside or behind fighters to protect and support them. It can be launched from aircraft like the C-130 or Su-30 MKI and controlled via a secure data link.
The CATS Warrior first unveiled in 2021, is a twin-engined unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) designed for aerial and ground attacks. HAL has teamed up with private sector players to develop this cutting-edge technology. But what exactly is a ‘loyal wingman’ drone? And how does it revolutionise the concept of Manned-Unmanned Teaming (MUM-T) in modern warfare?
In other news, France started developing an air-combat drone that will serve as an unmanned wingman for the country’s Rafale fighter. This is part of a contract with Dassault Aviation to start work on an upgrade package for the aircraft.
Countries like the U.S., Australia, Russia, and China are also racing to perfect this tech, which could shift pilots from direct combat roles to more strategic oversight as UAVs handle dangerous missions. Can India make its mark in this high-tech space?
In this episode, Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor delve into the global race for ‘loyal wingman’ drones. They explore the progress made by nations like France, which has just launched its wingman project for Rafale fighters, and discuss how the integration of unmanned systems like Boeing’s MQ-28 Ghost Bat could redefine future air combat.
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Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Hypersonic missiles tested in Iran-Israel conflict: Game-changer in modern warfare? | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 42 Oct 04, 2024

Iran fired more than 180 ballistic missiles, including its hypersonic medium-range Fattah-2, in a major offensive aimed at overwhelming Israel’s air defences. The strikes hit key military targets such as the Nevatim and Tel Nof airbases, home to Israel’s F-35 fighter jets.
In this episode of In Our Defence, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor unpack Iran’s recent missile offensive on Israel and how the Fattah-2, used for the first time, targeted Israel’s Arrow defence system, designed to intercept long-range ballistic missiles. Iranian officials claim that 90% of their missiles successfully hit their targets, although Israel and the U.S. reported intercepting most of the projectiles.
So, what makes hypersonic ballistic missiles so formidable? How do they differ from traditional missiles, and what technologies allow them to bypass even the most sophisticated defence systems? How prepared is the world for the era of hypersonic missile warfare?
But this attack raises deeper questions about Iran’s military capabilities. While Iranian officials touted the success of their missiles, critics argue that Iran may exaggerate its technological prowess. Is Iran truly at the cutting edge of hypersonic technology, or is there more to the story?
We also explore the broader implications of hypersonic missile technology. Where does India fare in all of this? What’s India’s ballistic missile defence system?
With superpowers like the U.S., China, and Russia advancing their hypersonic weapons programs, this new arms race is unfolding without the regulatory oversight that controlled nuclear arms during the Cold War. What does this mean for global security? Can existing defence systems, like Israel’s Iron Dome and Arrow, adapt to meet this emerging threat?
Finally, we consider the nuclear dimension. If an incoming missile is suspected to be nuclear, who makes the decision to intercept it? And what are the strategic considerations behind such a critical move?
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Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

MQ-9 Reaper deal almost done: How it will help India become 'super supremely aware’ | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 41 Sep 26, 2024

Recently, an MQ-9B Predator drone leased to the Indian Navy by the US crashed into the sea off the Chennai coast due to a failure of its power generators and onboard batteries.
It was leased from the American firm General Atomics and suffered a power generator and battery failure, leading to a "controlled ditching" into the sea off the Chennai coast.
What does "ditched in a controlled manner" mean, and is this crash a concern for India?
Besides, the US has also approved the sale of 31 MQ-9 B-armed drones to India at an estimated cost of USD 3.99 billion. The proposed mega drone deal was announced during PM Modi's state visit to the US in June 2023.
Under the deal, India will get 31 High Altitude Long Endurance (HALE) UAVs, of which the Navy will get 15 SeaGuardian drones, while the Army and the Indian Air Force will get eight each of the land version – SkyGuardian.
But why did the deal take so long to finalise despite close diplomatic ties? Is leasing military equipment a viable long-term strategy for India?
How can India improve centralised drone operations across its armed services?
Host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor unpack these, also discussing the crash in the context of India’s growing defence relationship with the U.S., particularly agreements like COMCASA, which facilitate secure communication and intelligence sharing.
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Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Kapil Dev Singh

Lebanon pager explosions: Decoding the 'covert op' and understanding what's next | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 40 Sep 20, 2024

On September 17, hundreds of pagers and walkie-talkies exploded simultaneously across Lebanon and parts of Syria, killing dozens and injuring hundreds. Was this another meticulously planned Mossad operation, echoing their history of high-stakes missions?
In the 40th episode, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor delve into these recent coordinated explosions, dissecting how such an elaborate attack could have been planned and executed. What multiple failures in Hezbollah's security led to this devastating outcome?
They also explore the broader implications: How does this operation fit into Israel's regional strategy? What lessons can India draw about protecting its communication infrastructure as tensions escalate? The event is a sobering reminder of India's vulnerabilities tied to foreign-made devices, particularly from China, highlighting the urgent need for localised production.
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Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Nitin Rawat

Iconic Sea Harrier to upcoming Rafale: Deep dive into Indian Navy's fighter jets | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 39 Sep 12, 2024

The Indian Navy is set to finalise the procurement of 26 Rafale-Marine fighter jets by the end of this financial year. Indian Navy plans to equip the indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant with these planes and develop a vital capability for the force on the maritime front.
Host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor explore the evolution of naval fighter jets in the Indian Navy—a subject that might seem niche but is crucial to India’s defence.
The hosts walk through the history of India's naval aviation, starting with the acquisition of the British aircraft carrier HMS Hercules, later INS Vikrant, and the arrival of Seahawk fighter jets in 1960. Why did India switch from British to Russian aircraft, with the MiG-29K replacing the Harriers?
As they discuss India’s push for self-reliance, they explore the challenges of transitioning the Light Combat Aircraft to a naval variant and why the Navy prefers twin-engine fighters. They highlight future projects like the Twin Engine Deck-Based Fighter, noting its promise and challenges. How will India balance its ambitions for indigenous fighters with its current defence needs?
The episode also touches on the increasing role of drones in naval operations, hinting at a future where combat drones could fly from aircraft carriers.
What does the future hold for India's naval aviation?
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Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Indian Army's tanks: Can ambitious FRCV project redeem failings of Arjun MBT programme? | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 38 Sep 05, 2024

In this episode, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor explore the future of India's armoured capabilities in light of the government's recent approval of ₹1,44,716 crore for capital acquisitions. This includes modernising the Indian Army's tank fleet through the Future Ready Combat Vehicle (FRCV) program.
The new tank FRCV aims to replace around 2,500 four-decade-old Soviet-origin T-72 tanks first acquired in 1982.
Why is the FRCV project necessary, and how does it address the shortcomings of previous tank modernisation efforts, such as the Arjun project? What is the current status of India's tank fleet, and how do the ageing T-72s and T-90s fit into the Army's broader defence strategy?
The Arjun tank project—marked by controversy and unmet expectations between the Army and DRDO—is analysed, with the hosts reflecting on its failures. The two explain this by giving an overview of tank evolution, from their roles in World Wars I and II to their enduring importance in modern warfare, particularly for India's territorial defence. The FRCV is seen as a corrective step, aiming to build a modern, modular, and agile tank capable of meeting diverse battlefield needs while fully indigenised.
But, some critics believe that the FCRV program seems like an Arjun 2.0. Is it?
Also, don’t miss the discussion on Sunil Shetty’s iconic tank-lifting scene in the movie Border—could it really happen?
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Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Why Indian military's hunt for a rifle remains a big mess | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 37 Aug 29, 2024

India, a nation that has landed on the moon and built fighter jets, still imports basic infantry rifles. Why? The Ministry of Defence has recently signed a repeat order for 73,000 SIG716 rifles from the U.S., with delivery expected by the end of 2025. This follows an earlier procurement of 72,400 rifles in 2019.
The move has sparked controversy, highlighting India's continued reliance on foreign arms despite its advanced defence capabilities.
In this episode of "In Our Defence," host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor examine India's ongoing struggle with small arms procurement. They question why India still depends on emergency imports despite private companies like SSS Defence developing advanced firearms. What does this say about the nation's defence policies?
The episode delves into the failures of the INSAS rifle and the contradictions in India's defence policies. Are domestic manufacturers being sidelined by the import lobby? What does this reliance on foreign weapons mean for India's strategic autonomy? Shiv calls for a systemic shift towards supporting domestic innovation and reducing dependency on foreign suppliers, questioning why a nation that excels in complex engineering can't produce its own infantry rifles.
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Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

How special are India's Special Forces | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 36 Aug 22, 2024

In the world of special operations, India is home to three elite forces: the Garud (Air Force), MARCOS (Navy), and Para SF (Army). Each unit has its own specialisation—Para SF excels in high-altitude, counter-insurgency, and surgical strikes; MARCOS are maritime experts; and Garud Commandos focus on airfield protection and counter-hijacking.
In response to popular demand from our listeners, this episode delves into the Para SF, offering insights into their vital role in national security.
Ever wondered what sets special forces apart from the regular army? How does Para SF work? What does their intense training look like? And what really happens during the 90-day probation period–a brutal challenge often considered a personal hell that pushes every recruit to its limits before earning the Balidan badge.
Host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor explore this while analysing how Indian Special Forces training compares internationally and what impact has the Armed Forces Special Operations Division (AFSOD) had on streamlining operations since its inception in 2019.
The two also discuss how Special Forces personnel transition to regular army roles or civilian life, highlighting their adaptability, which is shaped by intense training and experience.
Tune in to get a glimpse into the lives of those who operate in the shadows and beyond.
Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Breaking down India’s complex air defence system | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 35 Aug 15, 2024

What exactly is air defence? At its core, it intercepts incoming aerial threats such as aircraft, drones, or missiles. But, achieving this requires sophisticated technology and coordination.
So, why do you need a wide range of air missile systems? What different air defence systems do we have, and is the Russian-made S-400 system, hailed for its advanced capabilities and 450-kilometer range, our best?
Host Dev Goswami and Shiv Aroor explain the concept, with Shiv elaborating on the country's multi-layered air defence, which consists of concentric protective circles with varying ranges and capabilities.
The two look at the many surface-to-air based air defence systems that are operated by the Indian military and illustrate how the setup functions in real time. The episode also examines the complicated interplay between the Indian Army, Air Force and Navy when it comes to the command and control of these varied systems.
Also on this episode is an unsparing examination of the unfortunate incident of an Indian air defence system shooting down the military’s own helicopter, leading the deaths of six Indian Air Force personnel and one civilian the day after the Balakot airstrike. What went wrong on that fateful day? This episode brings you the answers. Tune in!
Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Inside India's biggest multi-nation air exercise Tarang Shakti | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 34 Aug 08, 2024

The skies over Sulur came alive with the launch of Exercise Tarang Shakti, India’s first multinational air exercise, on August 6 in Tamil Nadu. This significant event, the largest of its kind in India, is taking place in two phases: the first in Sulur from August 6 to 14 and the second in Jodhpur from August 29 to September 14.
Ten countries, including Australia, France, Germany, and the USA, are participating with their aircraft, while 18 others are observing.
But what exactly is an air exercise? Why is a multinational air exercise important? And why Sulur?
Host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor discuss how these exercises, designed to enhance coordination, teamwork, and operational readiness, are crucial in strengthening international relations and collective security. The participation of India’s Indigenous LCA Tejas, Mirage 2000, and Rafale jets highlights India’s defence capabilities, though delays have prevented the Tejas Mark 1A from being showcased.
The duo also answers how profound the impact of such exercises is on India’s global standing and diplomatic influence.
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Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Kargil War 25 years later: Recalling the hits & misses | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 33 Aug 01, 2024

It’s been 25 years since the Kargil war. We delve into the factors behind India's victory and the major intelligence failures that caused the conflict. The critical lapse was the intelligence oversight that allowed Pakistani forces to occupy high positions unchallenged, particularly due to inadequate surveillance during winter months.
We address pertinent questions: What major intelligence failures led to the Kargil War? How did young officers contribute to India's victory? What were the key recommendations of the Kargil Review Committee, and why were they not fully implemented? How can India improve its defence readiness based on lessons from the Kargil War?
Host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor analyse these points through personal experiences, factual recounting, and evaluations of military strategies and institutional reforms. They also discuss the Indian Air Force's operations during Operation Safed Sagar, highlighting the challenges of high altitude and the adaptation of Mirage aircraft with imported munitions.
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Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

INS Brahmaputra accident puts spotlight on Indian Navy's safety standards | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 32 Jul 25, 2024

The Indian Navy’s INS Brahmaputra warship, docked at the Mumbai Dockyard for refitting, was overturned earlier this week under mysterious circumstances. What started with a fire on Sunday has led to significant damage and the disappearance of a sailor. With a Rear Admiral now probing the incident, what are the implications for the ship's future usability and the broader safety and maintenance of Indian naval vessels?
Salvaging the Brahmaputra is a challenging and costly endeavour. But such incidents aren't entirely new to the Indian Navy. Host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor outline a history of significant accidents in the past two decades, especially between 2013 and 2014, when a series of mishaps led to the resignation of then-Navy Chief Admiral DK Joshi.
What challenges does the Navy face in maintaining assets in congested dockyard environments like Mumbai?
The duo also discuss other naval mishaps involving the INS Chakra and INS Arihant, highlighting the difficulties of maintaining and operating complex naval machinery, especially nuclear submarines.
Tune in as we review the Navy's safety record and the warship's future!
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Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Nitin Rawat

America to blame for Tejas delay? | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 31 Jul 18, 2024

83 Tejas Mk-1A aircraft are awaiting American F404 engines, causing a 9-month delay and uncertainty over the indigenous fighter aircraft program. With rising concerns over delays, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) aims to deliver the first aircraft by August 15.
Tejas Mark 1A program is a pivotal project for the IAF.
But why the delay? Who is to blame?
Host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor explain how these delays stem from production bottlenecks, certification issues, and a U.S. angle affecting the delivery of GE F404 engines—essential components for these jets. The hosts discuss the impact on the IAF, which urgently needs these jets due to its depleting squadron strength and the imminent phasing out of MiG 21 squadrons.
The duo also ponders whether "jugaad"—India's frugal innovation—suits defence, sharing when it's beneficial and when it falls short.
This and more in the 31st episode of In Our Defence.
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Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Kapil Dev Singh

Military Equipment To Conflicts: How India-Russia Friendship Has Endured Ups & Downs | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 30 Jul 11, 2024

PM Modi was in Moscow this week, marking his first visit to Russia since the country invaded Ukraine in 2022. The hug between Modi and Russian President Vladimir Putin caused a global stir, drawing particular ire from Western nations and Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
Host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor delve into the relationship between India and Russia, analysing how it has evolved over various Indian administrations.
Looking at it more militarily, the defence duo answers why India heavily relies on Russian military equipment, detailing India's extensive inventory of Russian hardware, from Sukhoi jets and MiG series aircraft to T-90 and T-72 tanks. Russia’s cost-effective and reliable supplies have historically catered to India's defence needs.
What do Russia and India gain from this alliance? Is Russian military equipment the best choice for India? What are the challenges India faces in reducing its reliance on Russian arms? Has the Ukraine war exposed vulnerabilities in Russian equipment, prompting India to seek alternatives? ‘India realised this a long time ago,’ says Shiv. So, what does the future hold for the India-Russia defence relationship?
This and more in the 30th episode of In Our Defence.
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Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Kapil Dev Singh
 

Indian Navy Rafale jet deal in sight | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 29 Jul 04, 2024

India and France are negotiating a Rs 50,000-crore deal for 26 Rafale Marine (Rafale M) fighter jets. If finalised, these aircraft will be deployed on the Indian Navy's aircraft carriers, INS Vikrant and INS Vikramaditya.
Why the Rafale M? The French Rafale M emerged as the frontrunner against its competitor, the American Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet.
Why does the Navy need a new fighter jet? The Indian Navy’s current fleet, primarily composed of ageing Sukhoi jets, is becoming obsolete. This decline in capability is driving the urgent need for new, modern fighters.
But how does the Rafale M differ from the IAF’s Rafale? Interestingly, the Rafale M predates the Air Force version. Despite this, France completed the delivery of all 36 Rafale jets to the Indian Air Force in December 2022, following a Rs 59,000-crore deal signed in September 2016. Why didn't the Navy and Air Force consolidate their orders together? A joint deal could have potentially reduced post-purchase costs.
And why the repeated trials? If the government had already determined that the Rafale M was the best choice, why did they conduct another contest only to choose the same fighter jet again?
We tackle these tough questions and more. Tune in and share your thoughts at pods@indiatoday.com or text us at 8588966996!
Produced by Anna Priydarshini
Sound mix by Kapil Dev Singh

How a deal for armoured vehicles from US threatens Make in India | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 28 Jun 27, 2024

India and the United States are progressing in their discussions to collaboratively produce the latest generation of Stryker armoured infantry combat vehicles (ICVs).
Initially, the project will involve a limited off-the-shelf acquisition of Strykers through the US Foreign Military Sales program. Subsequent phases will include joint production in India, culminating in the co-development of future versions.
Host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor discuss the American Stryker combat vehicles deal and the ICVs' battlefield applications. They raise the larger question: Does India need this deal? With private players like Mahindra, Tata, or Ashok Leyland, couldn't India build something similar, given that the Stryker ICVs have few exemplary specifications? “I am not saying that India can do better than the Stryker right now, but we sure can get close,” says Shiv. They also explore how a deal for armoured vehicles from the US might threaten the 'Make in India' initiative.
Moreover, the Canadian aspect of the deal cannot be ignored amid the flared-up diplomatic tensions between India and Canada. How will this be factored in and pan out?
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Nitin Rawat

'Prachand' is here: Decoding India's Light Combat Helicopter Mission | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 27 Jun 20, 2024

This week, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited announced a significant development: the Defence Ministry has issued a Request for Proposal for 156 Light Combat Helicopters (LCHs) as part of the government's push to boost defence indigenisation. Of these, 90 will be allocated to the Indian Army and 66 to the Indian Air Force (IAF). Currently, 15 Prachands are in service with the IAF and 5 with the Indian Army. The LCH was formally named Prachand in October 2022.
What Makes the Prachand Special?
The Prachand, a marvel of modern engineering, is the world's only attack helicopter capable of landing and taking off at 5,000 meters (16,400 ft). This unique feature makes it ideal for high-altitude operations in challenging areas like the Siachen glacier and eastern Ladakh. Equipped with a range of air-to-ground and air-to-air missiles, it can neutralise enemy air defence operations.
In this episode, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor explore the significance of light combat helicopters, the history of the Prachand's development, and how it compares with the Boeing Apache, of which the IAF operates 22 and the Army 6.
The duo explores these key questions: Why do the Air Force and Army have separate combat helicopter divisions? Will the new acquisition reduce India's reliance on Western or foreign equipment? Can India achieve greater self-sufficiency in defence capabilities with these additions?
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

How Jammu attacks are part of larger conspiracy to destablise region | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 26 Jun 13, 2024

In just three days, Jammu & Kashmir has been struck by four terror attacks. A tragic incident in the Reasi district saw a bus carrying pilgrims from the Shiv Khori temple to Katra targeted, resulting in nine deaths and 41 injuries. The Resistance Front (TRF) claimed responsibility.
Further terror struck Doda and Kathua, where an attack claimed the life of a CRPF jawan and injured six security personnel. Another operation in Saida Sukhal village, Kathua, led to a civilian injury and the death of a terrorist. Most recently, a policeman was injured in a fresh encounter in Doda.
This week’s data is part of a disturbing pattern. In the months leading up to these attacks, deadly ambushes were reported in the volatile districts of Rajouri and Poonch, near the Line of Control.
In this episode of "In Our Defence," host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor delve into these incidents, exploring the ground realities and regional complexities. They discuss the terrorists' weaponry, the reasons behind the region's persistent tension, and the larger strategy these attacks may be part of. This analysis is especially pertinent given the recent swearing-in of a new coalition government and the upcoming assembly elections, expected before September.
We also discuss the controversy surrounding the Union government's rare move to extend the tenure of Chief of the Army Staff Gen Manoj Pande by one month, debunking speculations of a ‘coup’ and stressing the ‘absurdity’ of such claims.
Finally, the duo also quickly examines the complexities surrounding Manipur.
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Boeing in Turbulence: A Crash Course into the Aviation Giant's Crisis | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 25 May 23, 2024

Recent months have seen Boeing, the world’s largest aerospace firm, embroiled in multiple safety concerns, accidents, and reputational crises. Why is Boeing under intense scrutiny? What critical issues is it facing?
In this episode, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor delve into these pressing issues on their show, questioning the apparent decline of this once-revered company. What has led to Boeing's reputation plummeting to such lows?
A series of incidents have spotlighted Boeing's troubles. Recently, an Alaska Airline Boeing 737 MAX 9 made an emergency landing in Portland, Oregon, after a piece of the fuselage detached mid-flight. Similarly, an ANA Boeing 737-800 was forced to return to Japan when a cockpit window developed a crack midair. These incidents come on the heels of two devastating crashes involving Boeing 737 MAX jets five years ago, which killed 346 people and resulted in the grounding of all 737 MAX aircraft for nearly two years.
The troubles don’t end with technical failures. This year, two Boeing whistleblowers, Joshua Dean and John Barnett, died under mysterious circumstances, leading to suspicions of foul play. Their deaths have raised fears among other whistleblowers, with concerns that they might be intimidated or meet similar fates.
Who's to blame for these incidents? What actions are officials taking?
Besides, Boeing is a key supplier to India’s defence, providing crucial equipment like the Boeing C-17 Globemaster III. India operates the largest fleet of C-17s outside the United States, essential for military airlift and humanitarian missions. What makes the C-17 Globemaster III impressive?
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Deep Dive On India's Nuclear Submarines
How India Hit It Out Of The Park With Legendary Brahmos Cruise Missile
Israel-Hamas War: A Conflict With No Endgame?
Lakshadweep: From Tourism to Military Significance & Indian Navy 'Deep Water' Ambitions
China Threat Literally At Our Doorstep. Why India Should be Concerned
Is Iran Emerging Trouble-Maker-In-Chief And Are We In A 'World War'? 
Balakot Strike & Abhinandan's Return: The Tense Two Days Recalled
The LCA Tejas Saga: A Flight From Frustration To Fulfillment
Watch: Downfall: The Case Against Boeing
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Retaking Pakistan-occupied Kashmir a pipe dream or very much a possibility? | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 24 May 16, 2024

The election season in India is heating up, and the rhetoric around Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (PoK) is becoming increasingly prominent among politicians. No surprises there! Assam Chief Minister Himanta Biswa Sarma recently addressed opposition allegations of constitutional changes by emphasising the government's focus on integrating PoK into India. Echoing this sentiment, Union Home Minister Amit Shah affirmed that PoK is "part of India", highlighting that people across the border in PoK are calling for freedom.
Since May 10, PoK has been experiencing significant unrest, with traders protesting against high electricity and food prices. Similar protests occurred in August 2023 over high electricity bills. External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar commented on the ongoing unrest, contrasting the situation in PoK with the relative stability in Jammu and Kashmir.
In this episode, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor delve into the history and politics surrounding PoK. They discuss whether the topic of Pakistan still resonates with Indian voters and examine the feasibility of politicians' claims about reclaiming PoK. Are these assertions even possible? The duo explores the practicality of India potentially reclaiming PoK and managing the aftermath. How realistic is it? What hypothetical actions or operations might India undertake, and what strategic or other purposes would these serve?
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Israel-Hamas War: A conflict with no endgame? | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 23 May 09, 2024

Where is the conflict in Gaza heading? After seven months of the Israel-Hamas war, are we witnessing the beginning of the end, or is it a war with no foreseeable conclusion?
Why does Netanyahu persist in his stance despite mounting international pressure? Is his stubbornness a response to the intelligence lapse exposed by the October 7 Hamas attack, or is it part of a calculated strategy aimed at achieving Israel's "objectives"? What comes after Israel fulfils its current objectives?
Host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor delve into the complexities of the conflict, recognising it as a narrative battle, particularly when Gaza is simplistically equated with Hamas.
They examine the United States' role, acknowledging its vested interests despite criticisms of President Joe Biden's handling of domestic student protests at Ivy League universities and support for Israel.
What has the United Nations contributed beyond condemnation? And where does India stand? What more can India do, especially as it aspires to global influence?
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Deep dive on India's nuclear submarines and why SSNs are need of the hour | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 22 May 02, 2024

In this episode, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor delve into India's nuclear submarine program, discussing its limited fleet despite a vast coastline of 6700 km. Why does a country with such a significant maritime border suffer from "sea blindness"? The Indian Navy, the smallest among the three armed forces, seems disproportionally under-equipped given the strategic importance of its maritime domain. So, what factors contributed to this stagnation?
India currently boasts only two nuclear submarines, INS Arihant and INS Arighat. But what sets nuclear submarines apart from their conventional and diesel-electric counterparts?
Consider this a masterclass on the SSBNs (nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarines) and SSNs (nuclear-powered attack submarines).In February 2015, the Indian government approved the indigenous construction of six SSNs at the Ship Building Center (SBC) in Visakhapatnam. But we have yet to hear much about these projects since then. The absence of a nuclear-powered attack submarine in India's fleet has significant strategic implications. Why hasn't India yet commissioned one despite the urgency?
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

How India hit it out of the park with the legendary BrahMos cruise missile | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 21 Apr 25, 2024

In this episode, host Dev Goswami and defence enthusiast Shiv Aroor delve into the cutting-edge advancements in India's missile programs and the coveted missile technology programs at large. They examine two significant tests: the successful launch of the indigenous Nirbhay cruise missile and a new variant of the Medium-Range Ballistic Missile, both of which showcase India's technological prowess.
Why is the Nirbhay test off Odisha's coast a monumental achievement for India?
Why is exporting homemade BrahMos, India's iconic missile, to the Philippines a significant development? BrahMos is gaining traction and making a resounding impact in international markets, including Southeast Asia and Africa. Some countries in West Asia have also expressed keen interest.
Listen in to know more about India's growing prowess in missile technology.
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Decoding Present-Day Air Combat and How Air-to-Air Missiles are Gamechangers | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 20 Apr 18, 2024

The Indian Air Force is preparing for a significant upgrade with the upcoming test of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO)'s Astra Mark 2 air-to-air missile. This missile, capable of hitting targets up to 130 km away, is a game-changer for India's air combat capabilities. The DRDO has been developing these missiles since 2001 to engage distant targets effectively.
In this episode, Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor discuss the importance of long-range missiles like Astra Mark 2 for modern air battles and why India needs them. They also reflect on the post-Balakot skirmish, which took place on 27 February 2019. India faced challenges in maintaining its position despite the Pakistan Air Force's (PAF) anticipated retaliation after the Balakot airstrike. The podcast analyses the dynamics of the skirmish and identifies the reasons that pinned India down.
This and more in In Our Defence!
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

2016 Surgical Strike: When 'unknown gunmen' actually hit Pakistan | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 19 Apr 11, 2024

In the heat of election season, a recent report from The Guardian has sparked controversy. It claims that Prime Minister Narendra Modi's office ordered assassinations in Pakistan, as revealed by Indian and Pakistani intelligence sources.
According to the report, the Research & Analysis Wing (RAW), an agency that PM Modi's office directly controls, had undertaken the strategy to "eliminate terrorists living on foreign soil".
However, the report contained many glaring errors, not only grammatically but factually, too. So, has the Guardian done PM Modi a favour? Or has it put India "into trouble"?
There's a paradox: India wants to embrace The Guardian's story politically but deny it diplomatically. Has India admitted to carrying out killings in Pakistan?
Host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor decode.
**Revisit our earlier episode about mysterious deaths, possibly linked to an unidentified Indian hit squad here:
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Why Arunachal Pradesh gets under China’s skin | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 18 Apr 04, 2024

This week, China released a fresh list of 'renamed' places in Arunachal Pradesh. This was yet another attempt by Beijing to assert its claim over the north-eastern Indian state that for long China has claimed to be its "integral part". India called China's move to rename the places "senseless", saying, "Assigning invented names will not alter the reality that Arunachal Pradesh is, has been, and will always be an integral and inalienable part of India.
The development brings into focus the fact that Arunachal Pradesh is, and has been, a core subject of India-China tensions. On this episode of In Our Defence, host Dev Goswami and defence expert and senior journalist Shiv Aroor trace the history of tensions between India and China over Arunachal Pradesh.
The two revisit the 1962 war, where India suffered a humiliating defeat at the hands of the Chinese army, a defeat that was particularly humiliating in the Arunachal Pradesh, then known as the North-East Frontier Agency, sector. They discuss the lessons learnt from the war and where things stand today.
Also on the episode is a dive into why dealing with China - militarily or diplomatically - is such a challenge and, at times, frustrating. Tune in.

Should ex-military chiefs join politics? | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 17 Mar 28, 2024

Rakesh Kumar Singh Bhadauria, former chief of Air Staff, recently made headlines by joining the BJP ahead of the 2024 Lok Sabha elections. In 2014, former Army Chief, General VK Singh, had also joined the party before the Lok Sabha elections. He had cited the BJP as the "only party" in India embodying nationalism, and not only did he join the party but he also clinched a ministerial role.
In this episode, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor discuss the trend of ex-military chiefs entering politics.
What's the deal with the intersection of military and politics? Is it concerning? Shiv brings up a crucial point: While many retired military figures, such as ex-chief of army staff Dalbir Singh Suhag, have landed government roles after retirement, joining a political party is a whole different ball game.
India is a democracy, and individuals are entitled to exercise their constitutional rights. Yet, does this trend hint at a bias? What happens when military and politics overlap? Does political influence cloud military judgment?
These are weighty questions that Dev and Shiv delve into, recounting Gen VK Singh's Singh's court case against the UPA government. What was it? Tune in to know!
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

AI, Cyberwarfare, Humanoid Soldiers: The Future of War | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 16 Mar 21, 2024

Ever wondered what a high-tech futuristic modern war would look like, especially with Artifical Intelligence coming in? Where might conflicts arise, and who will be involved? How will these wars unfold, and what technologies will shape them?
On this episode, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor try to visualise the multifaceted nature of future warfare, from economic tactics to space militarisation and beyond.
Shiv suggests that the current India-China standoff is just a glimpse of future wars, emphasising the role of kinetic weapons and advanced weaponry in potential conflicts.
The two also venture into a theoretical and hypothetical example of what an Indian liberation of Tibet would look like.
Listen in as the duo creates a fearful scenario of the potential realities of tomorrow's battlefield.
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Why MIRV Agni-V Marks a Military Milestone and What Future-Ready AMCA Fighter Jet Holds in Store| In Our Defence, S02, Ep 15 Mar 14, 2024

From an ambitious fighter jet project to a landmark missile test, the last few days marked important milestones for the nation’s defence. India test-launched the nuclear capable Agni-V missile in a ‘multiple independently targetable reentry vehicle’, or MIRV, avatar. Just days before, the government gave the all-clear for the development of the AMCA, or Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft, a fifth-generation fighter jet that will feature cutting-edge technology.
On this episode of In Our Defence, host Dev Goswami and Defence expert Shiv Aroor discuss these two projects and what they mean for the Indian Air force and the country’s nuclear arsenal. The two also briefly discuss the unfortunate crash of the Tejas fighter jet, the first in its service history.
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Lakshadweep: From Tourism to Military Significance & Indian Navy 'Deep Water' Ambitions | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 14 Mar 07, 2024

This week, the Indian Navy made significant moves. They officially launched the first squadron of MH 60R Seahawk helicopters, boosting their surveillance and combat abilities at sea. The commissioning ceremony for the INAS 334 'Seahawks' naval air squadron took place at INS Garuda in Kochi.
In addition, India opened a new naval base on Minicoy Island in the Indian Ocean, near the Maldives, amidst strained relations. This base, INS Jatayu, is strategically important, being India's furthest western base and around 125 km from the Maldives.
In this episode, host Dev Goswami and defense expert Shiv Aroor, discuss these developments and the significance of Lakshadweep for the Indian Navy. Why is it that Andaman and Nicobar islands have been given a greater focus than Lakshadweep, an archipelago who has always had a limited military presence? How timely is the establishment of the new navy base on the archipelago? And in the midst of this, how does Anant Ambani and Radhika Merchant’s pre-wedding bash in Jamnagar, come into the picture? Well, tune in to find out!
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Kapil Dev Singh

Revisiting 26/11: The Missteps, Lessons, and Path Not Taken | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 13 Feb 29, 2024

This week, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor delve into the harrowing events of November 26, 2008, when 10 Pakistani terrorists infiltrated south Mumbai via the sea, launching a series of devastating attacks.
Recounting the gruesome assault orchestrated by the Pakistani terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), which claimed 166 lives and left over 300 injured, Shiv shares his firsthand experience of being present outside the Trident-Oberoi on Marine Drive that fateful evening.
The duo examines how this incident spotlighted glaring deficiencies in India's intelligence apparatus—highly-trained security forces, including the Mumbai Police, Central Industrial Security Force (CISF), National Security Guard (NSG), and Marine Commandos (MARCOS).
Was this India's 'Kargil moment'? Shiv argues it was ‘far worse’. They scrutinise the factors contributing to the failures, including questions about the ‘political will’ of the then UPA government to not respond aggressively, influenced by the geopolitical landscape, particularly the US-Pakistan relationship.
What are the lessons learned and the evolution of India's security posture since the tragedy? And why Shiv advocates against labeling it solely as a ‘terrorist attack’, for a nuanced understanding of the attacks?
Tune in to know!
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Kapil Dev Singh

India's Nuclear Saga: From Peace to Power | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 12 Feb 22, 2024

This week, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor talk about India's nuclear setup. They dive into why India decided to go nuclear back in the 1980s and 1990s, explaining the concept of the nuclear triad. What does it mean, and why has it been so challenging to complete the submarine part of this triad? And why do we need submarines like the INS Arihant or INS Arighat to finish the triad?
What exactly can India do with its nuclear weapons? And why is there so much secrecy surrounding these operations?
Let's imagine for a moment: if a nuclear attack were to happen, what would it look like?
And they ponder the paradoxical nature of the nuclear world. What is it? Tune in to find out more!
Read Sandeep Unnithan's story on India's indigenous nuclear submarine project here.
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Kapil Dev Singh

Are India's Armed Forces Really 'Joint'? Has CDS Post Achieved Anything? | In Our Defence, S02, Ep 11 Feb 15, 2024

In January 2020, General Bipin Rawat became the first Chief of Defence Staff (CDS) of the Indian Armed Forces. However, his tenure was tragically cut short by a helicopter crash in December 2021. The position remained vacant for almost nine months until General Anil Chauhan took over. Why did it take so long to fill the CDS position after General Rawat's passing? Was there genuine effort to reach political consensus earlier?
There were also concerns whether the CDS post was created solely for General Rawat, believed to be a favorite of the Modi government. Has the CDS role achieved anything substantial? What was the dream when the post was conceptualised and where do we stand now?
Host Dev Goswami and defense expert Shiv Aroor delve into the history of the CDS position, tracing it back to the Kargil war. The Kargil review committee, formed in 1999, recommended the CDS position due to evident lack of coordination between the army and air force during the conflict. But, are India's armed forces truly 'joint' despite the creation of the CDS role in 2019?
The duo also reflects on General Rawat's legacy, marked by controversies like his remarks classifying the Air Force as a 'support arm’, in an India Today interview. Does this hint at deeper divisions within the military?
Examining progress towards synergy among the armed forces, they ponder whether India is truly advancing in jointmanship or still grappling with turf wars and egos, exemplified by debates over HAL Prachand helicopters.
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Nitin Rawat

China Threat Literally At Our Doorstep. Why India Should be Concerned | In Our Defence, Ep 10 Feb 08, 2024

Indian army chiefs have consistently emphasised the sensitivity of the India-China situation for the past four years. What is the current ground situation, and why is it unfavorable for India with the looming Chinese threat?
Host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor delve into these questions in this episode.
Numerous reports have been of Chinese "spy ships" in the Indian Ocean region. What defines these "spy ships," and why isn't India's response widely discussed in the media, considering other countries also deploy research vessels for strategic purposes? And why is there concern without specific laws prohibiting Chinese "research vessels" from conducting surveillance activities?
Are there noticeable changes happening at the tactical level?
One significant advantage India holds over China is its extensive knowledge of the Indian Ocean's geography, including depths, water intensity, and temperature, crucial for submarine warfare. But, China excels in submarine capabilities, posing a challenge for India.
The duo also discusses reasons for the Indian establishment's shift from focusing on Pakistan to now China over the past decade or so. What does this denote, and how did India reach this point?
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound Mix by Kapil Dev Singh

How Drones Are Changing Warfare And Why India Needs To Catch Up Fast | In Our Defence, Ep 09 Feb 01, 2024

We live in an age where drones are everywhere. In this episode, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor delve into the world of UAVs or UAS, commonly known as drones. These unmanned air systems have played pivotal roles in global events, from the U.S. war on terror to conflicts in Ukraine, Israel-Hamas, and Azerbaijan-Armenia. Despite their ubiquitous presence, popular culture and mainstream defense writing lag in portraying the significance of these non-human aircraft. Why?
While India boasts a list of domestically manufactured drones, none are currently in service. The discussion delves into the reasons behind India's delayed adoption and the increasing involvement of private companies in the drone ecosystem.
The duo also contemplates the potential takeover of drones by AI, about the elimination of the human loop and the future of drone warfare. What game-changing effects drones can have in military operations? What are the challenges faced by the military in drone usage, including concerns about proliferation and security threats from terrorists and non-state actors. The ultimate question remains: Is drone warfare here to stay, and how will it shape the landscape of future conflicts?
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound Mix by Kapil Dev Singh

As India Marks 75th Republic Day, How 'Atmanirbhar' Are We In Defence? | In Our Defence, S2, Ep 08 Jan 25, 2024

In this Republic Day special, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor analyse the delayed progress of PM Modi's 'Atmanirbharta' in defence. Why the prolonged wait? What's the stark reality we must confront? Why are we still dependent on Russian equipment even now? Why is self-reliance a painful birthing process?
The episode starts with reflections on the Republic Day fanfare, notably the annual parade at Kartavyapath. Amidst the grand spectacle, critics question the hefty costs. Is there a valid place for the R-Day parade in modern India? Shiv disapproves of the display of weaponry, citing the irony of India being a major arms importer while reiterating the urgency for self-reliance in defence equipment.
The duo also takes us through the history of India's quest for self-reliance. Why is it not a happy story? Why has India faltered despite having huge needs for military equipment? Was it because of political reluctance to go into having a weapons industry? And why do HAL, DRDO and various other organisations still need more accountability and cohesion?
What's the stranglehold of government bodies on defence production? And where do the private companies stand in the midst of this? Finally, what pulls and pressures are required to be fully Atmanirbhar?
Well, not everything is gloomy, though. While India remains one of the biggest weapons importers, it has made excellent strides in the last decade. What are those?
Tune in to listen!
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound Mix by Kapil Dev Singh

Is Iran Emerging Trouble-Maker-in-Chief And Are We In A 'World War'? | In Our Defence, S2, Ep 07 Jan 18, 2024

The Middle East, also referred to as West Asia, is on fire. In the three months since the Gaza-based terrorist group Hamas launched a dastardly attack on Israel, events in the region have started resembling a 'World War' but perhaps not in the sense that we understand the term.
On Episode 7 of In Our Defence, host Dev Goswami and defence expert Shiv Aroor break down the goings on in the Middle East, starting with the Iranian air strikes into "terrorist" camps in neighbouring Pakistan. While not directly linked to the Israel-Hamas war, what do the attacks tell us about the relationship between Iran and Pakistan?
Also, with Iran-backed Houthi rebels attacking ships in the Red Sea, prompting the United States to intervene, and the Hezbollah, another Iranian proxies, engaged in a limited conflicts with Israel, is Iran fast emerging as the world's trouble-maker-in-chief? Also, what do the Iranian strikes tell us about the military setup in Pakistan, a country that is economically on its knees?
And finally, with the world in the midst of two wars - Israel-Hamas and Russia-Ukraine - that have dragged in other countries in some form or the other, how close is the threat of an all-out global conflict and, more worryingly, a nuclear war?
Dev and Shiv discuss this and much more. Tune in to the latest episode of In Our Defence.
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound Mix by Kapil Dev Singh

Balakot Strike & Abhinandan's Return: The Tense Two Days Recalled | In Our Defence, S2, Ep 06 Jan 11, 2024

The 2019 Balakot airstrike was a significant military operation conducted by the Indian Air Force in response to the Pulwama terrorist attack. This marked the first time since the 1971 War that Indian aircraft had conducted an airstrike on Pakistani soil.
The strike targeted a Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM) terror camp in Balakot, Pakistan. The Indian Mirage-2000 fighter pilots carried out the airstrike, aiming to eliminate terrorist threats.
The following day, the Pakistan Air Force retaliated with a strike in the Rajouri sector of Jammu. In the ensuing aerial battle, India claimed to have shot down a Pakistani F-16 fighter aircraft while losing a MiG-21, with its Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman captured after ejecting over Pakistani-held territory. Later, he was repatriated.
The aftermath of the airstrike saw controversies, including unverified news in the newsrooms and conflicting reports. The duo, Dev Goswami and Shiv Aroor recount their experiences covering the event. They discuss the preparations for the airstrike and the controversies surrounding the strike; for one, the Indian Air Force has confirmed "hitting targets," but there is no official estimation of casualties — if any — yet, and Pakistan's response, exploring claims that they intentionally missed targets in India to avoid escalating to an all-out war.
Shiv Aroor and co-author Rahul Singh have also covered the detailed account of the Balakot airstrike, including planning, execution, and aftermath in their book 'India's Most Fearless.'
Listen in as we bring you the inside and unearthed details of the two tense days!
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound Mix by Kapil Dev Singh

The LCA Tejas Saga: A Flight From Frustration To Fulfillment | In Our Defence, S2, Ep 05 Jan 04, 2024

In 2024, India's focus on strengthening its air power centers around the Tejas, its indigenous fighter aircraft. The Defence Ministry's approval for acquiring 97 Tejas Light Combat Aircraft Mk 1A marks a significant step in bolstering the Indian Air Force's capabilities.
With just two Tejas squadrons currently in operation, the Air Force faces the challenge of maintaining its strength at 31 squadrons, well below the standard requirement of 42. In a discussion between India Today TV Output’s Senior Executive Editor Shiv Aroor and host Dev Goswami, the implications of this shortfall are explored. Why is the benchmark of 42 squadrons crucial, and what hurdles arise from not meeting this target?
What are the reasons behind India's reliance on foreign aircraft? Shiv questions the over-reliance on foreign fighters, and having eight different types of aircraft, labeling it a "zoo" and a "beauty contest" of aircraft. Why is managing eight different aircraft types a challenging nightmare?
Listen in to know why Shiv believes that Built-in-India is a fig leaf, why it has not worked for India at all, and what Made-in- India fighters of foreign origin actually mean for the Indian exchequer.
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound Mix by Kapil Dev Singh

Decoding The Poonch-Rajouri Mess In Kashmir | In Our Defence S2, Ep 04 Dec 28, 2023

In this episode, India Today TV Output’s Senior Executive Editor Shiv Aroor and host Dev Goswami explore the complexities of Jammu and Kashmir, focusing on the volatile districts of Rajouri and Poonch. They analyze a recent deadly ambush in Poonch that claimed the lives of four Indian Army jawans and the mysterious deaths of three civilians in Baffliaz, allegedly due to torture during Army questioning.
What makes Rajouri-Poonch, situated near the Line of Control, such a contentious flashpoint? Is the region's proximity to the border a key contributing factor to the volatility?
Shiv, drawing on his 20 years of experience and yearly visits to Kashmir, explains how the region's terrain provides terrorists with a vantage point, making it susceptible to violence. Despite incidents, there's another side—post the abrogation of Article 370, the region has seen reduced violations, leading to a four-fold increase in tourism in 2022 according to government data.
However, recurring incidents like the recent ambush raise concerns. Has peace and normalcy genuinely returned to the region? Are the youth truly disenchanted with the military, considering the decrease in militant recruits in 2023?
The duo digs into these details.
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound Mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Dead or Alive, Why Dawood Ibrahim Weighs Heavy On India's Psyche | In Our Defence S2, Ep 03 Dec 21, 2023

Dawood Ibrahim, the notorious figure behind the 1993 Mumbai blasts, is once again in the spotlight amid claims of being poisoned. Designated a global terrorist in 2003 by both India and the United States, Ibrahim carries a staggering $25 million bounty on his head due to his alleged orchestration of the 1993 Bombay bombings and involvement in various crimes such as extortion, murder, and smuggling.
Although rumours abound regarding his alleged poisoning and subsequent hospitalisation, reliable intelligence sources have discredited these claims.
But why does news about Dawood remain palatable to India? And how much of a threat is he actually to India?
It's been over four decades since he went into hiding, morphing into a shadowy figure. Does his ability to evade authorities raise questions about the failure of India's security apparatus and the potential mesh of corruption behind his rise?
And what are the practical difficulties in actually ‘poisoning’ Dawood?
India Today TV Output’s Senior Executive Editor Shiv Aroor and host Dev Goswami discuss.
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound Mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Mystery of India's Enemies Being Killed by 'Unknown Gunmen' | In Our Defence S2, Ep 02 Dec 14, 2023

In this episode, India Today TV Output’s Senior Executive Editor Shiv Aroor joins host Dev Goswami to discuss a speculative yet intriguing topic – the mysterious deaths of individuals predominantly linked to Jaish-e-Mohammed or Lashkar-e-Taiba, deemed as anti-India elements, occurring in locations like Canada, the UK, and predominantly in Pakistan.
The most controversial case being that of Hardeep Singh Nijjar, a Sikh separatist leader and Canadian citizen. Canada PM Trudeau made a series of claims that alleged the involvement of Indian government agents in his killing.
In another case, the U.S. Department of Justice has indicted a senior Indian government intelligence official for allegedly plotting the assassination of U.S. citizen Gurpatwant Singh Pannun on American soil.
The deaths, often attributed to unidentified gunmen, have raised eyebrows and conspiracy theories, with questions such as: Does India have a covert hit squad, efficiently eliminating threats without detection?
Is there a discernible pattern to the deaths, and what is the rationale behind these covert operations? What is the modus operandi of India's R&AW agency, and can we decipher the truth behind these covert missions? Amidst the murky details, the hosts explore patterns, plausible explanations, and the historical context of India's covert operations.
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound Mix by Kapil Dev Singh

Israel-Hamas to India-China: What Future Holds In Store For These Conflicts | In Our Defence S2, Ep 01 Dec 07, 2023

In Our Defence team is back and how! With a different avatar!
In Season 2, India Today TV Output’s Senior Executive Editor, Shiv Aroor, joins host Dev Goswami, where they will talk of more guns and battles, wars and coups, interspersed with tales of glory from the battlefields!
This episode delves into major global events—Russia's war in Ukraine, the India-China conflict, and the Israel-Hamas conflict. Shiv provides on-the-ground insights from Tel Aviv, analysing whether Israel, in combating terrorists, might inadvertently adopt tactics resembling those they oppose. He recounts a former IDF chief telling him, that “Israel will spend the next 25 years recovering its reputation”.
Why does the Israel-Hamas issue persist cyclically? What unfolds in the Russia-Ukraine war, and how concerned should India be? “I see a lot of blood between Russia and Ukraine next summer but the silver lining is that they will be in some way forced to a resolution,” Shiv says.
And what developments are on the horizon for the India-China front? 
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound Mix by Kapil Dev Singh

India-China to Russia-Ukraine: Looking At The Big Conflicts Facing The World| In Our Defence, Ep 82 Nov 09, 2023

In Episode 82 of "In Our Defence," we share a special and bittersweet moment as we bid farewell to our insightful "Def Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla, as he embarks on new endevaours.
Our Host Dev Goswami, and Abhishek take a nostalgic journey, reflecting on the highs and lows of the episodes done so far. What are the key takeaways from the diverse themes covered thus far?
They delve into significant global conflicts, including India-China, Russia-Ukraine, and Israel-Hamas, raising essential questions about the government's handling of the India-China issue. The military's unease about territorial access sparks curiosity – if the Indian government is not confrontational with China now, what guarantees access in the future?
Where do we foresee these conflicts, especially Russia’s invasion into Ukraine, evolving? Where do we see the war going?
PS: We will be back after a short break, with a different avatar!
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Why Bollywood Lacks An Iconic War Epic | In Our Defence, Ep 81 Nov 02, 2023

The recently released movie "Tejas," featuring Kangana Ranaut, has sparked a debate around nationalism, with the actress suggesting that every nationalist should watch her film. But regarding the intersection of cinema and nationalism - how problematic is it to equate patriotism with watching a particular movie?
Our host, Dev Goswami and "Def Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla discuss everything about the representation of defence and war-themed movies in Bollywood, where the evolution from traditional heroism and patriotism to a more nuanced exploration of conflict is evident. The advent of OTT platforms has provided a broader canvas for storytelling, prompting inquiries into the impact and the role of nationalism in these narratives.
And what sets Indian cinema's representation of war and conflicts apart from Western cinema, and to what extent should war movies be fictionalised or based on factual positions? Are cinematic liberties justified in depicting wars and conflicts, and what about the glorification of machismo and hyper-masculinity in some over-the-top scenes? Political overtones in movies, exemplified by films like "Kashmir Files," also raise questions about the role of cinema in shaping public opinion.
Despite a wealth of war-themed content, why is there a lack of an iconic war epic in Bollywood, why Indian cinema hasn’t really done justice to a lot of material that's readily available, for example on the 1961 war with China, battle of Rezang La, 1971 war.
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Gaza War: What Will It Take For Israel To Completely Destroy Hamas? | In Our Defence, Ep 80 Oct 26, 2023

Why do Indians seem to be more interested in the Israel-Hamas conflict compared to the Russia-Ukraine war, which has greater geopolitical impact and trade-business implications for India, considering the significant defense partnership with Russia?
Many Indians draw a simplistic parallel between Israel and themselves as victims of terror. Why is this belief prevalent, and why do our host, Dev Goswami, and "Def Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla hold differing views on this? What are the key differences and similarities between the situations of India and Israel?
Also, Israel has recently conducted a series of airstrikes on the Gaza Strip and issued an ultimatum for the evacuation of 1.2 million civilians in northern Gaza. However, this ultimatum has expired without action yet. Given the evolving dynamics, will Israel consider a ground invasion due to growing threats from Hezbollah in the northern part and warnings from Iran about preemptive actions? Will this invasion happen? And will Israel be able to decimate Hamas amid such sort of pressure building against it? If yes, what happens to Gaza then?
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Gaza War: What Happens If Israel Invades From Ground? | In Our Defence, Ep 79 Oct 19, 2023

Israel has launched a series of airstrikes on the Gaza Strip, and there are preparations for a potential ground offensive. The Israeli military has issued an ultimatum, calling for the evacuation of 1.2 million civilians in northern Gaza, urging them to relocate to the southern part of the region.
On our show, Dev Goswami and "Def Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla delve into the strategic implications of Israel's decision to launch a ground invasion. Israel's challenge lies in fighting a war in a densely populated area like Gaza, with a high risk of ambushes and booby traps. Drawing parallels with the Russia-Ukraine conflict, they highlight the increased risk of ambushes when transitioning from open areas to urban settings.
The discussion also revolves around how Israel, with its professional military, will contend with Hamas, a terrorist organization with a well-established military network. Can they simply bomb the ground tunnels that Hamas operates from? But the identification of these tunnels poses a significant challenge.
Can Israel fight the war tactically? Can Israel win the war just by the ground invasion?
And regarding the halo around Israeli security forces, we also discuss Fauda; why is it that such a series is mostly celebrated in India and not so much by the western media? Tune in to find out!
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Israel-Hamas War: Looking At The Intel Goof Up And What's Next | In Our Defence, Ep 78 Oct 12, 2023

The surprise attack launched by Hamas over the weekend is just the latest chapter in a seventy-year-long saga of war and strife between Israelis and Palestinians, with far-reaching consequences that have involved external powers and created turmoil in the broader Middle East.
Why does this conflict stand out as uniquely complicated compared to others? Unlike more straightforward conflicts with defined boundaries, the West Bank is a mosaic of distinct pockets, housing Palestinian and Jewish communities side by side.
To truly understand the complexities, it's important to not ignore its historical context. In this episode, our host, Dev Goswami, and "Def Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla, explore what triggered the conflict, scrutinise Israel's security intelligence, and ponder what the future holds.
There's a growing concern regarding Prime Minister Netanyahu's handling of Israel's security intelligence, as he was “caught off-guard”. Could this crisis erode faith in Netanyahu's leadership among the Israeli populace, as critics argue that his focus on judicial reforms might have distracted him from security matters. How has this attack impacted the global perception of Israel's defense capabilities?
The duo also discuss Hamas' motivation for launching an attack when they knew they wouldn't emerge unscathed. What drove this ‘strategic’ attack?
And then, there's the broader international context: how can the West support Ukraine but not extend similar support to the Palestinians in their quest for self-determination and security?
Join us as we seek to make sense of this ongoing crisis.
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India-Canada Row: Was India Caught Off Guard? | In Our Defence, Ep 77 Sep 28, 2023

The row between India and Canada has only escalated and is showing no sign of ending soon. A lot has happened in the past week and in this podcast, our host Dev Goswami and "Def Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla do a comprehensive analysis on the various nuances that have unfolded.
With the responsibility now squarely on Trudeau to present supporting evidence, the pressure is on him to produce substantive material. Will he be able to?
Contrary to the prevailing narrative suggesting that Canada has been put in its place, what underlies the divergent perspective of the involved parties? Could this entire situation have been avoided with more proactive measures from both sides?
What are the nuances that are missing in the narratives that India is taking on against Canada?
What aspects of India's response may be deemed imprudent? Even after the conclusion of the G20 summit, ample time remained for a more assertive reaction. Why didn’t they react aggressively?
Tune in as the matter gets escalated and more muddled, more questions arise!
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India-Canada Diplomatic War: What’s Behind the Row? | In Our Defence, Ep 76 Sep 21, 2023

This week, India-Canada relations hit a new low, as experts have noted. The tension escalated when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau accused 'agents of the Indian government' of being involved in the killing of Khalistani leader Hardeep Singh Nijjar. Nijjar, a designated terrorist, was fatally shot outside a Gurdwara in June of this year.
The souring of relations can be traced back to Trudeau's visit to New Delhi during India’s G20 presidency when, according to Trudeau, he raised Nijjar's killing with PM Modi and he said that any Indian government involvement would be unacceptable and that he sought India's support in the investigation. Trudeau told this later country’s House of Commons.
Subsequently, both India and Canada engaged in a diplomatic tit-for-tat, expelling each other's diplomats.
In this episode, our host Dev Goswami and "Def Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla discuss the potential impact of this tension on India's relationship with Canada. They explore whether Trudeau's reaction was fair, or was it just one-upmanship.
They also delve into the motives behind Trudeau's comments in the Canadian parliament. Additionally, they examine what recent figures like Deep Sidhu reveal about the state of the Khalistani movement. Despite the movement appearing dormant in India, they ponder why this incident is still causing diplomatic turmoil.
The question raised at the end prompts further discussion: How far do we want to extend the ramifications of this situation?
This, and much more on this episode of In Our Defence.
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G20 Takeaways: Ukraine, China, and Khalistan | In Our Defence, Ep 75 Sep 14, 2023

The world of defence is intertwined with the world of diplomacy.
On this episode, host Dev Goswami and “Def Savvy” Abhishek Bhalla explore just that against the backdrop of the recently concluded G20 Summit. The Summit attracted praise for India’s ability to ensure consensus on a joint statement at the end of the mega two-day event that took place in New Delhi. 
What went on behind the scenes as diplomats and bureaucrats carried out tough, rugged negotiations on the content of the joint statement? Tune in as Dev and Abhishek discuss how and why the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war almost derailed the joint statement. The duo also talk about how the joint statement’s paragraph on the Ukraine war have a significant India ‘flavour’ to them. 
Also on the episode, Dev and Abhishek talk about the elephant that was NOT in the room (well, kinda) – China and whether India’s performance at the G20 Summit will have any bearing on the Ladakh standoff that shows no signs of ending anytime soon. 
And finally, Dev and Abhishek look at the issue of Khalistan that was brought up by PM Narendra Modi during his one-on-one meeting with Canadian PM Justin Trudeau. How real is the separatist threat? 
This, and much more on this episode of In Our Defence.
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Need For Teaching Military History And Its Pitfalls | In Our Defence, Ep 74 Aug 31, 2023

The NCERT curriculum for Class 7 has taken a meaningful stride by incorporating a chapter titled 'National War Memorial - an homage to our brave soldiers,' as announced by the defense ministry recently. This collaborative effort between the defense and education ministries aims to “instill vital values of patriotism, devotion to duty, courage, and sacrifice within school children”. Moreover, it seeks to enhance youth engagement in the process of nation-building.
Delving into the details of this chapter, one might ask, what precisely does the chapter exactly encompass? The chapter weaves a touching narrative where two friends engage in an exchange of heartfelt letters, expressing their deep gratitude for the freedom they relish, a freedom hard-earned through the unwavering sacrifices of our valiant soldiers.
This addition finds its place within the book 'Honeycomb,' although it's not a piece of literature but rather a compilation of readings, says Abhishek. While some aspects might appear 'stereotypical', he says, the overarching message is centered around national integration.
Interestingly, a thought-provoking query arises: Is incorporating such chapters truly the most effective approach to cultivating these values? Could there be a risk of students perceiving it as a forced imposition? The effectiveness of these inclusions in making a substantial impact stands as a pertinent question.
In this episode, host Dev Goswami and "Def Savvy," Abhishek Bhalla also recount their personal journeys of being introduced to military history. They cite sources like newspapers, movies, and other mediums that played pivotal roles in piquing their interest.
So, in this case, is this academic inclusion enough?
“It should be part of your learning experience rather than your school academic curriculum experience,” Abhishek says.
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Yevgeny Prigozhin 'Dies'. For The Third Time. Decoding The Mystery | In Our Defence, Ep 73 Aug 24, 2023

Yevgeny Prigozhin, a prominent Russian mercenary chief is reported to have been killed in a private jet crash in Moscow. He was reportedly listed as a passenger in the jet. This crash resulted in the unfortunate demise of all 10 passengers on board, as confirmed by Russian authorities.
The reported passing of Prigozhin, though yet to be definitively confirmed, adds a layer of intrigue given the recent uprising by Wagner forces in June.
The uncertainty surrounding Prigozhin's fate is compounded by a history of incidents where he has allegedly fabricated his own death, with some Russian journalists even suggesting that it’s “the third time he died in a plane crash”. Such speculation has been fueled by the presence of doppelgänger rumors and his previous death hoaxes.
In this episode, host Dev Goswami and "Def Savvy," Abhishek Bhalla delve into the intriguing circumstances surrounding Prigozhin's presumed demise and explore various speculations that have emerged. We address pertinent questions such as: Does it do anything to the Russia-Ukraine war? What happens to Wagner?
Besides, there's curiosity surrounding any potential involvement of Vladimir Putin in these unfolding events, given his administration's history of such mysterious deaths. Could this incident be a deliberate attack, and how might it relate to the broader geopolitical landscape?
Notably, Abhishek says, "There was a precursor to the crash, that the Russian military is actually now taking the Wagner on. These are reports from some US-based think tank. However, these reports seem curiously absent from mainstream media coverage. Abhishek raises an intriguing point: if such a significant development were indeed occurring, why has the Russian government not issued statements regarding their actions against the Wagner group? The absence of headlines on this matter raises eyebrows."
Listen in as we unravel these mysteries.
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Wagner Uprising: Putin Losing Grip Over Russia’s Ukraine War?: https://podcasts.indiatoday.in/politics-&-history/in-our-defence/wagner-uprising-putin-losing-grip-over-russias-ukraine-war-in-our-defence-ep-65-606472-2023-06-29

China Standoff Not Just On Land, Also In Air | In Our Defence, Ep 72 Aug 17, 2023

A brand-new airbase has been established at an incredibly high altitude of over 13,000 feet. This airbase is designed to boost our ability to respond to a more assertive China. It includes fighter aircraft, advanced radars, and upgraded drones, all aimed at improving surveillance in Ladakh.
Named the Nyoma air base, it's the third such facility in Ladakh for fighter aircraft operations. There are already similar bases in Leh and Thoise.
The Nyoma air base's construction has begun, and it's less than 50 kilometers away from the Line of Actual Control (LAC), the border between India and China.
Is this going to make a big difference? Why did India decide to build this airbase now? What series of events have led to the Indian defense establishment to finally take this decision? Will it allow us to reach more targets effectively?  Does it enhance range of striking? Will it be formidable against Chinese aggression?
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4 Years On, Why Article 370 Abrogation Remains A Mystery! | In Our Defence, Ep 71 Aug 10, 2023

It's been four years since the Article 370 & 35A abrogation. The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)-led government has celebrated the decision to revoke Jammu and Kashmir's autonomy, terming it a rectification of a "historic blunder" after seven decades.
Yet amidst these claims, a critical question emerges: What substantive changes have truly transpired?
According to the government, data indicates a decline in militancy, reduced local unrest, absence of ceasefire violations, and a decrease in incidents of stone-pelting. The security situation in Jammu and Kashmir has ostensibly improved, with the government attributing this shift to the abrogation of Article 370.
But, how does the decrease in violence and terrorism relate to the abrogation itself?
Join host Dev Goswami and "Def Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla as they delve into this intricate matter!
The discourse appears to be disproportionately centered on Article 370, sidelining discussions on the transformation of Jammu, Kashmir, and Ladakh into union territories, the duo discuss. 
Is this heightened focus on Article 370 primarily a political strategy aimed at perpetuating a particular narrative?
Is the situation in Kashmir characterized by a complex interplay of security agencies?
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Normalcy vs Burning Kashmir agendas killing truth on the ground: https://www.indiatoday.in/news...
"Article 370 is an extremely emotional issue with the people": https://twitter.com/AbhishekBh...

Are Hate Crimes Terror Attacks? | In Our Defence, Ep 70 Aug 03, 2023

Earlier this week, communal violence erupted in Haryana, spreading to Gurugram and other areas with reports of vandalism. The clashes in Nuh during a religious procession resulted in six deaths. The violence allegedly stemmed from rumors that a cow vigilante, Monu Manesar, involved in previous killings in Bhiwani, would attend the procession. However, as reported, Manesar did not show up at the event and claimed that he has nothing to do with the violence or the killings.
Another distressing incident involved an RPF constable who shot and killed four people, including his senior officer and three Muslim passengers, on the Mumbai-bound Jaipur-Mumbai Superfast Express near Palghar railway station. The constable, Chetan Kumar, was later arrested by the Government Railway Police, GRP.
These incidents raise concerns about India's internal security mechanism. The lack of police presence during the Haryana clash raises questions about the administration's preparedness and response.
Why was the police not present during the Haryana clash? Is it unrealistic to even expect unbiased policing during such violent times? Why did the administration fail to prevent the planned violence from unfolding?
Dev Goswami and "Def Savvy," Abhishek Bhalla, delve into the role of the police in internal security and why it often comes under scrutiny.  Also, the RPF incident prompts questions about provisions to handle 'mentally challenged' officers and why such an officer was allowed on duty, if that's the case. And do such hate crimes qualify as terror attacks?
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Manipur Going Down Path of a Civil War? | In Our Defence, Ep 69 Jul 27, 2023

For close to three months now Manipur has been burning. Unfortunately, it was a viral video that sparked outrage across India. The video depicted several men parading and assaulting two Kuki women, sparking widespread condemnation.
But what specific factors led to both state and centre administration's failure to contain the conflict between the Meiteis and the Kukis? Why did it require a viral video to trigger outrage and media attention to the crisis?
And how do internet shutdowns in Manipur and India contribute to concealing the extent of crimes and brutalities?
Is the situation in Manipur so severe that it can only be classified as a civil war now?
Dev Goswami and "Def Savvy," Abhishek Bhalla discuss!
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Listen to our Manipur coverage here: https://bit.ly/44KkpOE

Lover or Spy? Unravelling the Seema Haider Story | In Our Defence, Ep 68 Jul 20, 2023

In this captivating landscape, a complex web of questions surrounds the tale of Pakistani citizen Seema Haider and her partner Sachin Meena. Could their relationship be an authentic love story, or is Seema concealing a covert life as a spy? And this is what has been dominating the mainstream media space for weeks now!
Theories abound, but the undeniable truth is that Seema's entry into India was "illegal," raising concerns about internal security. The involvement of the Anti-Terrorist Squad (ATS) of Uttar Pradesh Police only adds to the intrigue.
One crucial aspect that raises eyebrows is Seema's connection to the Pakistani Army. Her uncle and brother's involvement with the military raises the possibility of her association with the Pakistani intelligence agency ISI. However, the love story's origins are intriguing—Seema and Sachin met while playing the online game PUBG.
In a gripping episode, renowned crime reporter and India Today’s managing editor of Crime Tak & Crime Aaj Tak, Shams Tahir Khan, joins host Dev Goswami and "Def Savvy," Abhishek Bhalla, to shed light on Seema's ordeal and her link to Balochistan. Khan highlights certain aspects of Seema's behavior, linguistic proficiency, that have attracted scrutiny.
But this is not a first, as Shams recounts the case of  another Pakistani girl, named Iqra, who had met 25-year-old Mulayam Singh Yadav via an online Ludo game. She was, however, sent back to Pakistan by the Indian government.
So, what makes Shams firmly believe that she is not a spy? Join the discussion as we attempt to unravel the truth behind this captivating saga.
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Rafale Boost For the Indian Navy? | In Our Defence, Ep 67 Jul 13, 2023

The Indian Defense Ministry has recently approved plans to procure 26 Rafale fighter aircraft and three Scorpene class conventional submarines for the Indian Navy from France.
In this episode, host Dev Goswami and "Def Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla delve into the significance of this deal and its implications for the concerned countries.
“India's defense acquisitions are entering an exciting phase, particularly after the recent predator drones deal with the US. Now, India is eagerly looking forward to finalizing a deal with France,” Abhishek says.
Of particular interest is the inclusion of 3-4 Rafale jets in the Bastille Day parade. These Indian Rafale jets have arrived in France, where they will participate in the Bastille Day flypast over the iconic Champs Elysees in Paris. Prime Minister Narendra Modi is expected to be the guest of honor at this event.
The hosts also explore the concept of a government-to-government deal and highlight its distinctive features compared to conventional deals. They shed light on the pressing need for new fighter jets for the Indian Air Force, emphasizing the current shortage in the fleet.
They also touch upon the reasons behind the urgency for acquiring new fighter jets for the Indian Navy. The hosts examine the challenges involved in developing fighter jets for naval purposes, considering their unique requirements.
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Predator Drones Coming to India: Why It's A Big Deal | In Our Defence, Ep 66 Jul 06, 2023

During the state visit of Prime Minister Narendra Modi to the US from June 21 to 24, India successfully finalized a significant government-to-government deal with the United States. The agreement involves the procurement of 31 Predator drones, amounting to a value exceeding USD 4 billion.
In this episode, host Dev Goswami and "Def Savvy” Abhishek Bhalla, discuss why this is a big deal and what are its implications for the respective countries involved.
Abhishek Bhalla emphasizes the magnitude of this acquisition by comparing it to the procurement of a fighter jet deal. The purchase of advanced drones carries immense strategic importance for both nations.
The conversation delves into the underlying strategic interests associated with the deal. Abhishek emphasized that these agreements extend beyond the current leadership of Presidents Biden and Modi; they lay the groundwork for future political administrations as well. Similar precedent was established through a template set with Russia in previous years.
The duo expands on the potential of such a deal, discussing how the enhanced surveillance capabilities offered by the drones could revolutionize warfare. Abhishek offers the intriguing possibility of conducting surgical strikes without risking the lives of soldiers, thanks to the extended reach of surveillance these drones provide.
The discussion also explores the curiosity surrounding the greater insistence of the United States on finalizing this deal, despite India's expressed interest. It is intriguing to ponder why the US attaches more urgency to the agreement.
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Wagner Uprising: Putin Losing Grip Over Russia’s Ukraine War? | In Our Defence, Ep 65 Jun 29, 2023

Amidst the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war, a surprising internal strife has erupted between the Russian military and the Wagner mercenary group, led by Yevgeny Prigozhin, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Did Putin foresee the possibility of creating a powerful private military company that could challenge the Kremlin's forces? With Wagner turning against Putin, does this development alleviate the threat to Ukraine and Europe? Why did the uprising fizzle out quickly and require Belarusian intervention? What are the implications of Gorkhas joining the Wagner group?
Find out more in this intriguing discussion with host Dev Goswami and "Def Savvy," Abhishek Bhalla.

What It Takes To Be An Officer In Indian Military | In Our Defence, Ep 64 Jun 22, 2023

Join host Dev Goswami and "Def-Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla, who are joined by a special guest Col. Rajvir Sharma, a distinguished infantry officer from the 15 Jat Regiment, as they delve into the requirements and qualities necessary to become an officer in the Indian Armed Forces.
Col. Sharma, who served the Indian army for over 30 years in challenging regions like the Line of Control, high-altitude areas of J&K, and the Indo-Tibet border, now shares his vast experience through a successful edtech startup that trains defense aspirants.
Why is honesty, teamwork, and assertiveness highly valued in officers? Col. Sharma offers valuable insights into the significance of these traits and their impact on effective military leadership. Moreover, we dispel the misconception that SSB is biased towards candidates from privileged backgrounds, as Col. Sharma asserts, "SSB has nothing to do with one's humble origins."
Tune in to gain a comprehensive understanding of the path to 'officerhood' in the Indian Military and unlock the secrets to excelling in the SSB selection process.

Why is Manipur Burning? | In Our Defence, Ep 63 Jun 15, 2023

In this episode, host Dev Goswami engages in a discussion with , "Def Savvy," Abhishek Bhalla about the distressing series of ethnic violence currently plaguing Manipur. Abhishek emphasizes the allure of the North East, describing it as a “civilization with a deeply rooted heritage and pride”. The ongoing issues in Manipur, he suggests, “directly relate to this pride”.
The duo lists reasons behind Manipur's volatile situation, addressing factors such as its ethnic composition, the Meitei argument, and the underlying causes of unrest. They also delve into the ramifications of the army's involvement and examine why the issue is particularly sensitive and complex.
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India’s Defence Deals, And What’s Needed To Be Fully Atmanirbhar | In Our Defence, Ep 62 Jun 08, 2023

In this episode, "Def Savvy," Abhishek Bhalla and host Dev Goswami delve into two significant defense acquisitions. Firstly, India and the US are on the brink of finalizing a groundbreaking defense deal. This deal aims to facilitate a partnership between India's state-run Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) and the American firm General Electric (GE) for the joint manufacturing of indigenous jet engines for fighter aircraft.
The deal is anticipated to be sealed during Prime Minister Modi's upcoming visit to the US later this month. The primary objective is to manufacture the GE F414 engine, which was selected by India in 2010 for the Mark II version of the indigenous Light Combat Aircraft Tejas. Currently, Tejas is equipped with the GE F404 engine.
How will this agreement significantly benefit HAL?
The episode also discusses India's recent discussions with Germany regarding the progress of a deal for the procurement of six advanced conventional submarines under Project-75I for the Indian Navy. During his visit, German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius expressed his strong support for the German company Thyssenkrupp Marine Systems (TKMS).
However, why has Project 75-I, which involves the development of six submarines, faced delays? Could it be due to the navy's requirements being deemed unfeasible?
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Exploring Military Tourism At LAC| In Our Defence, Ep 61 Jun 01, 2023

India has been developing border villages in its north-eastern state of Arunachal Pradesh as tourist hubs to assert dominance over China near the line of actual control (LAC). How does the Centre's Vibrant Villages Programme aim to ensure environmental and energy security and promote tourism in the border villages?
What are the concerns raised by Indian border forces regarding Chinese model villages?
And what is the purpose of the scheme, and how does it differ from China's model villages?
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Ayo Gorkhali! The Fierce Fighters, Their Nepal Legacy And A China Angle | In Our Defence, Ep 60 May 25, 2023

Join "Def-Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla and host Dev Goswami as they delve into the reports suggesting Beijing's interest in recruiting Nepal's renowned Gorkhas into the Peoples Liberation Army (PLA).
The Indian Army's routine intake of the Gorkhas came to a halt after the Agnipath scheme was introduced.
So, what factors contribute to the desirability of Gorkhas in the military forces of various nations, including China, India, and Pakistan, during times of conflict?
How does the demographic composition of the Gorkha regiment, with a majority of soldiers from Nepal and a significant portion from India, influence the dynamics and demand for Gorkhas in different military alliances?
Considering China's growing influence in Nepal, what potential consequences could arise if China successfully attracts Gorkhas away from their traditional military alliances, particularly with India, and how?
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Army’s Uniform Uniforms for Senior Officers: What’s Behind The Move? | In Our Defence, Ep 59 May 18, 2023

The Indian Army has made a significant decision to introduce a standardized uniform for Brigadier and above rank officers, regardless of their parent cadre or appointment.
This change comes after extensive deliberations during the Army Commanders' Conference.
Different uniforms and accoutrements in the Indian Army have traditionally represented specific arms, regiments, and services, fostering a sense of identity and camaraderie. But, what change will this decision bring? Is this move towards a common uniform aims to promote unity and uniformity as officers progress beyond their regimental roles, eliminating visible affiliations.
The decision's implications, timing, and the desire to shed colonial influences are discussed in the "Def-Savvy" podcast featuring Abhishek Bhalla and host Dev Goswami. Tune in for the full conversation.

Pakistan's Kaptaan Crisis | In Our Defence Ep 58 May 11, 2023

On May 9, Imran Khan, the former Prime Minister and leader of Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaaf (PTI), was arrested outside the Islamabad High Court by paramilitary rangers. And after 50 hours of his arrest, the Pakistan Supreme Court declared the arrest illegal.
However, Khan’s arrest led to unprecedented protests between Khan's supporters and the police, resulting in six deaths and numerous injuries across several cities. The situation worsened when angry protesters stormed a radio station in Pakistan, and clashes between PTI supporters and the police broke out in Islamabad. Several violent protests erupted across Pakistan including at the General Headquarters in Rawalpindi and the residence of the Corps Commander in Lahore.
“Def-Savvy” Abhishek Bhalla and host Dev Goswami discuss why this incident turned into an anti-army movement. And what is the internal rivalry between the army and the ISI. Despite the chaos, is there a silver lining to this crisis?
“For the first time in history, the Pakistan army has been not only challenged but called out. The absence of any attacks on police stations, courts, or other state institutions has caught them off-guard. These images will be recorded in history as a significant moment of public protest against the military establishment in Pakistan,” says Abhishek.
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From Tragedy to Triumph: Lt. Rekha Singh's Inspiring Story | In Our Defence Ep 57 May 04, 2023

Amidst the spotlight of a momentous event, the Indian Army's commissioning of five women in their Artillery Regiment, Lieutenant Rekha Singh's extraordinary story shines through.
Overcoming tragedy, Singh's unwavering determination after losing her husband, Naik Deepak Singh, during the Galwan clash has set her on a path to honor his legacy. On June 15, 2020, Naik Deepak Singh was killed in action by the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA).
This week's focus is on Singh's exceptional journey that captures the essence of unwavering determination and destiny, shedding light on the evolving landscape of women's participation in the armed forces. Alongside her story, Abhishek and also Dev delve into the motivations behind this shift, questioning if is it merely a public relations effort or a well-thought-out policy decision?
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Dantewada to Poonch, This Week in India's Security | In Our Defence Ep 56 Apr 27, 2023

Two recent events have thrust India's security into the spotlight, raising important inquiries. The first incident involved a Naxal attack that claimed the lives of ten District Reserve Guard (DRG) personnel and their driver in Chhattisgarh's Dantewada. Meanwhile, in Jammu and Kashmir's Poonch district, a terrorist assault orchestrated by seven individuals from Pakistani nationalist groups resulted in the deaths of five Army jawans. These incidents compel us to examine India's security challenges comprehensively.
Drawing from his experience in Naxalite-prone Sukma, Chhattisgarh, Abhishek Bhalla highlights the gravity of the situation, stating that it surpasses the perils of Kashmir. The discussion between Abhishek and host Dev Goswami further explores Pakistani terrorism, the Line of Control (LOC), the Kashmir situation, and China's involvement. The timing of these attacks, ahead of the SCO meeting chaired by India, where Pakistan and China will participate, raises significant concerns.
Furthermore, the impact of such attacks on the reiteration of the ceasefire at the LOC is a topic of examination. With the Pakistan Foreign Ministry suggesting the potential for an all-out war with India, Abhishek cautions against disregarding the ceasefire if even the slightest possibility holds true.
Join us for valuable insights into the pressing security issues facing India.

Encounter Stories: Behind The Headlines | In Our Defence Ep 55 Apr 20, 2023

Def-Savvy Abhishek Bhalla and Dev Goswami discuss the controversial nature of "encounter killings" and "shoot-outs, exploring the history of the term, including its glorification by the press during the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks.
Abhishek also shares his own experiences covering the 2008 Batla House encounter. The conversation highlights the need for greater transparency and accountability in law enforcement agencies' use of force.
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Bathinda Firing And the Unanswered Questions | In Our Defence Ep 54 Apr 13, 2023

The incident at the military station in Bathinda has left the nation reeling with shock and grief. The lack of clarity surrounding the events raised more questions than answers, making it one of the most intriguing and mysterious incidents in recent times.
The investigation into the incident is ongoing, and there was no confirmation on whether the perpetrators were army personnel or civilians. However, there were hints that the breach was internal, raising more questions about the security at the station.
The lack of information and the confusing details only added to the intrigue of the incident, begging answers from the authorities.
What has happened so far? Who will investigate the firing? What do the clues say right now? Dev and Abhishek talk about these and several other questions that surround this rare incident.
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The 'Mindgame' Behind China Renaming Places | In Our Defence Ep 53 Apr 06, 2023

The renaming of these places in Arunachal Pradesh is not a new development, as China has been making territorial claims over the region for several decades. However, this recent move by China is seen as a provocative and aggressive action, as it not only challenges India's sovereignty over the region but also threatens to escalate tensions between the two countries.
In this episode, "Def-Savvy '' Abhishek Bhalla joined Dev Goswami to discuss what these attempts by the Chinese government really mean. What is this name changing all about? What do they really get out of this?
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An Air Exercise In the UK and A Balakot Angle | In Our Defence Ep 52 Mar 30, 2023

What was the messaging of the exercise ? What’s the experience in an airstrike exercise? Why does Abhishek call it “vague”? What was the larger aim of this exercise? The grouping of these nations, how is that determined? And what are the few interesting things that Abhishek lists, which he says, the Indian airforce wont state out officially, tune in to know!

Hell In South Sudan Ft. Major Samar Toor | In Our Defence Ep 51 Mar 23, 2023

In the latest edition of "In Our Defence," the show's host, Dev Goswami, and "Def-Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla continue their conversation with special guest Major Samar Toor, a decorated veteran with extensive experience serving in Siachen, South Sudan, and during the conflict in Kashmir.
Major Toor describes the challenges of operating in a war-torn environment in South Sudan, where everything and everyone was a potential threat, including child soldiers.
The discussion delves into the complexities of communal harmony and politics, with Major Toor highlighting the dangers of civil war. Listeners are invited to tune in to the full conversation to gain unique insights into the cultural dynamics of the Indian army and the challenges of operating in a conflict zone.
Catch the 1st part of the conversation here!
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Kapil Dev Singh

Lost Stories From Siachen | In Our Defence Ep 50 Mar 16, 2023

In celebration of the 50th episode of "In Our Defence," the show's host, Dev Goswami, and "Def-Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla are joined by special guest Major Samar Toor. With extensive experience serving in Siachen, South Sudan, and during the conflict in Kashmir, Major Toor offers unique insights into the cultural dynamics of the Indian army.
In the first part of the discussion, the trio engages in a thought-provoking conversation about Major Toor's experiences in Siachen, and explores the “misconception” that army personnel are known to be “abusive”. Major Toor shares his perspective and offers a candid look into the cultural diversity within the Indian army, where individuals from different communities unite under a common name, the regiment.
Furthermore, Major Toor talks about his spiritual journey and how he became a part of the infantry. He relives his experience of “challenging his commanding officer to send him to the toughest post in Siachen”.
Join the discussion to hear Major Toor's captivating stories and gain a deeper understanding of the cultural dynamics within the Indian army.

INS Vikrant Nears Operational Readiness. What’s Next? | In Our Defence Ep 49 Mar 09, 2023

Abhishek Bhalla, the “Def-Savvy” national bureau head of India Today TV, is back after spending a day on-board INS Vikrant. The development of the indigenous aircraft carrier comes as a big shot in the arm for India’s fledgling defence manufacturing industry. With INS Vikrant, India joins a club of select nations that possess the wherewithal to build their own aircraft carriers.
On this episode of In Our Defence, Abhishek tells the show’s host Dev Goswami about his thrilling experience of being on-board the massive warship and of watching the adrenaline-pumping scenes of fighter jets taking off and landing in the middle of the sea.
Experiences apart, the two also discuss what makes the indigenous construction of INS Vikrant such a big deal and what it means for the Indian Navy’s long-held dreams of having a total of three aircraft carriers in operation at the same time (currently, the Navy has two).
The two also talk about the most crucial aspect of aircraft carrier: The aircraft themselves! With the Indian Navy right now having just about the number of fighter jets needed to operate two carriers, an important question is how and from where will the force get some urgently needed naval fighter jets.
Tune as Abhishek and Dev chat about the achievement that INS Vikrant is and what it signals for Indian Navy future expansion plans.

Revisiting Balakot airstrike 4 Years On | In Our Defence Ep 48 Mar 02, 2023

On February 26, 2019, fighter jets of the Indian Air Force bombed a terrorist camp in Balakot, Pakistan. The Balakot airstrike – as the operation came to be known – was the first time since the 1971 war that Indian warplanes attacked a target inside Pakistan. The cross-border bombing raid was in response to the February 14, 2019 Pulwama terror attack in which 40 CRPF personnel were killed.
The already-high tensions between Delhi and Islamabad escalated even further after Pakistan responded to the Balakot airstrike with an attempted air raid of its own and the subsequent capture of an Indian Air Force pilot by Pakistan.
On the 48th episode of In Our Defence, host Dev Goswami and “Def-Savvy” recall their experience of covering those tensed few days as journalists. With the benefit of four years of hindsight, the duo talks about some of the key takeaways of the Balakot airstrike and the consequent developments that pushed the two nuclear-armed neighbours to the brink of war. Tune in!
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Kapil Dev Singh

Let’s Talk About Cybersecurity | In Our Defence Ep 47 Feb 23, 2023

In the latest episode of "In Our Defence," Dev Goswami, the show's host, and "Def-Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla, the national bureau chief, delve into the pressing need for cybersecurity. Abhishek's recent visit to Israel's CyberTech Global conference, a prestigious gathering of delegates from across the world, provides the perfect backdrop for this insightful conversation. The duo explores why cybersecurity laws are not given more prominence and emphasises the importance of addressing this critical issue. Tune in to gain valuable insights into the significance of cybersecurity in today's world.
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Kapil Dev Singh

Revisiting Pulwama Terror Attack Ft. Lt. Gen KJS. Dhillon | In Our Defence Ep 46 Feb 16, 2023

As Feb 14 marks the fourth anniversary of the gruesome Pulwama terror attack that claimed the lives of 40 CRPF members, we bring you a detailed and insightful discussion with Lt. Gen KJS. Tiny Dhillon, who played a critical role in the aftermath of the Pulwama attack in February 2019.
Listen to the full discussion with him and Abhishek Bhalla on the attack, Kashmir After 370, his Twitter entry saga and much more.
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound Mix by Sachin Dwivedi

Chinese Object in US Skies & a 'Ballooning' Crisis | In Our Defence Ep 45 Feb 09, 2023

What is the the Chinese Spy Balloon in US airspace Saga? And what's the “mystery balloon” hovering over Andaman & Nicobar Islands? Tune in to know!

India’s 3rd Aircraft Carrier: A Tough Choice | In Our Defence Ep 44 Feb 02, 2023

We discuss the Indian navy and its hunt for a deck-based fighter jet, with respect to Abhishek Bhalla's recent visit to the French Navy aircraft carrier Charles De Gaulle. There are several questions that we address: Why do we need to start thinking about a replacement for an aircraft carrier now? What makes a country decide what kind of aircraft carrier it wants? Listen in!

The Republic Day Fanfare | In Our Defence Ep 43 Jan 26, 2023

India celebrated its 74th Republic Day on January 26th, 2023 with a grand parade in the capital city of New Delhi. The parade, which is an annual event, was held at Kartavyapath and was attended by dignitaries from all over the world, including the President of India.
This year's parade had a special focus on the inclusion of women in the military. For the first time in India's history, an all-women's motorcycle team from the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) participated in the parade, showcasing their precision and skill. The parade also featured a tableau from the Indian Army's Corps of Signals, which highlighted the role of women in the Indian Army's communication network.
The parade also showcased India's military might, with a display of various weapons systems and equipment, including tanks, missiles, and fighter jets. The Indian Air Force also performed a fly-past, with fighter jets and helicopters showcasing their capabilities.
The parade also included a display of India's cultural diversity, with floats from various states of India showcasing their unique customs, traditions, and art forms.
The parade was followed by a 21-gun salute and the national anthem was played. The President of India also awarded bravery medals to members of the Indian military for their service and sacrifice to the nation.
The Indian military played a major role in the republic day celebrations, with the three wings of the Indian armed forces, the Indian Army, Indian Navy, and Indian Air Force participating in the parade. The parade also showcased the Indian military's capabilities, strength, and readiness to defend the nation.
In the 43rd episode of In Our Defence, Dev Goswami, the show's host, and "Def-Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla the national bureau chief, share their individual experiences of the Republic Day fanfare. Tune in!

Joining Dots of Pak PM’s Push For Peace With India | In Our Defence Ep 42 Jan 19, 2023

With Pakistan facing the worst ever economic turmoil, the country’s prime minister advocating for ‘peace’ with India, doesn't come as a surprise. But should the PM’s comments be taken with a pinch of salt? Was his statement really aimed at India or was it aimed at the West drawing its attention towards the country’s dwindling economy?? Abhishek Bhalla and Dev Goswami discuss. Tune in!

Women in Indian Armed Forces: More Than Just a Photo-op? | In Our Defence Ep 41 Jan 12, 2023

Squadron leader Avani Chaturvedi, the Indian Air Force’s first female fighter pilot, is set to take part in a maiden air exercise ‘Veer Guardian-2023’. The exercise will be carried out from January 16 to January 26 at the Hyakuri Air Base and its surrounding airspace in Omitama, and the Iruma Air Base in Sayama in Japan.
The women officers have been participating in wargames with the foreign contingents coming to India, including the French Air Force where two of the lady fighter pilots took part, but this would be the first time they would be representing the country on foreign land.
Besides, Captain Shiva Chouhan of the Indian Army's Fire and Fury Corps became the first woman officer to get operationally deployed at the world's highest battlefield, Siachen, after a month's arduous training at Siachen Battle School along with other personnel.
All this is brilliant, however, questions are raised of women's limited representation.
Women have been serving in the Indian Armed Forces in various roles for several decades. They are currently allowed to serve in all branches of the military, including the Army, Navy, and Air Force. In recent years, the Indian government has made efforts to increase the representation of women in the Armed Forces, with a goal of having women comprise 15% of the military by 2020.
However, due to various factors, the representation of women in the Indian Armed Forces is still relatively low, with women making up just over 3% of the military as of 2021. Despite this, women have been serving in non-combat roles such as in logistics, medical and education corps, and have also been inducted in combat roles in the Indian Airforce.
In the 41st episode of In Our Defence, Dev Goswami, the show's host, and "Def-Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla the national bureau chief, are joined by India Today TV’s Executive Editor Preeti Choudhry. Well, Preeti does have an army background but “she never describes herself as a fauji brat”, Bhalla remarks.
Referring to Chaturvedi’s achievement Bhalla believes that it’s not a landmark. “Because if she is already a fighter pilot, she would be expected to be going to such exercises.”
“Talking about these is really cosmetic.” I feel the army is more discriminatory than the other armed forces,” Preeti says.
Tune in to this relevant discussion on women’s sparse representation in the armed forces.
Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Amrit Regi

India Needs A National Defence Policy. NOW! | In Our Defence Ep 40 Jan 05, 2023

Despite the constitution of the Defence Planning Committee in 2018, India still does not have an NSS in place. Why? Why the current dispensation should prioritise having a comprehensive national security strategy? Are vested political interests a hindrance in its formulation? And why do we have so little written about it? What would be the benefits of an Indian NSS? Listen in!

Russia-Ukraine, India's Reforms And China: The Year That Was | In our Defence Ep 39 Dec 29, 2022

In this episode Dev Goswami and Abhishek Bhalla reflect on the major defense developments of the past year in India. One significant reform from the Ministry of Defense was the Agnipath or Path of Fire initiative, which aimed to recruit a large number of troops aged 17.5 to 21. However, this scheme faced backlash and protests from aspiring candidates.
The hosts also address the question of why India has not yet developed a basic rifle and discuss the importance of small arms for the army, despite the focus on larger weapons and equipment. They also raise the issue of the need to replace the Insas rifle.
In addition, Dev and Bhalla discuss their favorite and least favorite episodes, including the appointment of General Anil Chauhan as Chief of Defense Staff and the accidental firing of a missile. They also mention the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war and the events leading up to it.

Indian Navy And Its Aircraft Carrier Dreams | In our Defence Ep 38 Dec 22, 2022

In this episode of In Our Defence, we base our discussion on a big debate: Does the Indian navy really need a 3rd aircraft carrier?Has, over the years, the Navy been neglected in terms of provision of equipment? Is the Navy’s chunk of the budget very meagre? Listen in!

Decoding India-China LAC Clash at Tawang | In our Defence Ep 37 Dec 15, 2022

In this episode, Dev Goswami, the show's host, and "Def-Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla, the national bureau chief, discuss the reasons behind the clash, remarking how not just Ladakh, but there are clearly other trouble spots like Yangtze in Arunachal Pradesh. Bhalla, who has been to the Tawang sector twice, one last year, and once in 2019, brings forth insights from the ground. He had also attended the border personnel meeting between the two armies on the Chinese side. Listen in!

The Retaking PoK Debate That We Really Should Be Having | In our Defence Ep 36 Dec 08, 2022

In this episode, we base our discussion on the political rhetoric on PoK that particularly erupts around elections. What does this signify? How pragmatism is the rhetoric? What it means to take over PoK? Does it mean war with China? Isn’t Chinese investment in PoK a strategic threat to India? Listen in!

India-US Yudh Abhyas Exercise Aimed at China? | In Our Defence Ep 35 Dec 01, 2022

The India-US's joint exercise provoked an objection from China. Was this expected? Was the location of the exercise picked keeping China in mind? What did the Indian and US soldiers do during the exercise? And, why were they even exercising together in the first place. Listen in!

Richa Chadha's Galwan Remark: Why Sensitivity Cannot Be Ignored | In our Defence Ep 34 Nov 24, 2022

“If she wanted to burn her hands with fire and talk about how the Indian army or the Indian establishment doesn't treat China and Pakistan the same way, there was a better way of doing it.” Can sensitivity in this matter be overlooked? Listen in!

Imran Khan Takes On The Pakistan Military. What Happens Next? | In our Defence Ep 33 Nov 10, 2022

How is someone in Pakistan able to throw a challenge to the almighty military? Can Khan come back to power without the army’s support? We discuss it in this episode. Listen in!

What Will it Take to Be Atmanirbhar in Defence? | In our Defence Ep 32 Nov 03, 2022

In context of the recent Tata and Airbus deal to manufacture C-295 transport aircraft for the Indian Air Force, in this episode, we discuss and analyse the significance of the deal, understanding the competency of the indigenous defence manufacturing in India. Listen in!

PM Modi's Diwali With Jawans: Tokenism Or Morale Booster? | In our Defence Ep 31 Oct 27, 2022

What does an embedded Diwali with Jawans look like? Should human emotions take precedence over political ideology in judging PM Modi’s visits to military stations at the borders? Abhishek Bhalla and Dev Goswami discuss in this episode. Listen in!

INS Arihant: Let’s Go Nuclear | In our Defence Ep 30 Oct 20, 2022

What are India’s nuclear capabilities and what is the secrecy behind the nuclear operations? Is India’s launch of a missile a milestone? We discuss this in In Our Defence. Tune in!

Russia-Ukraine War: The Humans of Conflict | In our Defence Ep 29 Oct 13, 2022

Abhishek Bhalla and Dev Goswami discuss where the Russia-Ukraine war is heading, spill some anecdotes of civilians caught in the middle, and much more, in the latest episode of In Our Defence.

Does the Indian Army Need to Shed its Colonial Legacies? | In our Defence Ep 28 Oct 06, 2022

The eradication of the colonial legacy is in question now. Should the Indian armed forces continue to cling on to the culture imposed by our colonial masters? We discuss in In Our Defence. Tune in!

PFI ban and What it Means for India’s Internal Security | In our Defence Ep 27 Sep 29, 2022

How has the PFI been seen by the Indian security establishment over the years? We discuss it in this episode of In Our Defence. Tune in!

Putin’s Warning: Playing Poker With Nukes? | In our Defence Ep 26 Sep 22, 2022

Russian President Putin said that he was not bluffing on nukes and ordered a partial mobilisation of Russian citizens. But well, has Putin’s bluff been called out? Is it also the admission of Russia’s failure? Tune in to find out!

Can the China Standoff be Resolved? | In our Defence, Ep 25 Sep 15, 2022

What is the reality of eastern Ladakh? What is the difficulty in “resolving” the standoff? Abhishek Bhalla and Dev Goswami discuss in this episode of In Our Defence. Tune in!

Let's Talk Fighter Jets and the Unending Wait for Tejas | In our Defence Ep 24 Sep 08, 2022

The question of India’s depleting number of fighter fleet looms large. The IAF is functioning with close to 240 aircraft less than what it should have. We discuss its nitty-gritties in this episode of In Our Defence. Tune in!

INS Vikrant is back. This is why it’s a “big deal” | In our Defence Ep 23 Sep 01, 2022

Why is it important for India to have an aircraft carrier? Why is it a big deal that this warship has been Made in India? We discuss this in this episode of In Our Defence. Tune in!

Targeted Killings in Kashmir a New Normal? | In Our Defence Ep 22 Aug 25, 2022

Is targeted killings a natural evolution of the Kashmir Valley's long-running militancy? We discuss this in this episode of In Our Defence. Listen up!

Siachen Stories: Why is the Glacier so Significant? | In our Defence Ep 21 Aug 18, 2022

Why does Operation Meghdoot remain one of the most significant ones particularly in the current day context? How and why was the operation with a lot of foresight? We discuss it in this episode of In Our Defence. Tune in!

Anatomy of Special Operations | In our Defence Ep 20 Aug 11, 2022

In this episode, we delve into the intricacies of how special operations are carried out, interspersed with fascinating anecdotes from Abhishek Bhalla. Tune in!

The Taiwan Tangle: What’s happening in East Asia? | In our Defence Ep 19 Aug 04, 2022

What is the China-Taiwan tension post-Pelosi visit? What happens in the military drills? In this episode, we untangle the Taiwan tangle. Tune in!

Kargil War: Who won, who Lost? | In our Defence Ep 18 Jul 28, 2022

Was there a larger objective of the Pakistani military army when they intruded into India across the Line of Control capturing strategic mountain peaks? In this episode, we revisit the days and the aftermath of the war, bringing out its in-depth nuances. Tune in!

Indian Army and the Question of Caste | In our Defence Ep 17 Jul 21, 2022

What does the norm of caste-based stratification in the Indian military imply? Did independent India continue with the caste and region-based regiments due to their history and ethos? Listen in!

Sri Lanka crisis brings its military in focus | In our Defence Ep 16 Jul 14, 2022

What's going on in Sri Lanka? What role does the military play in the midst of this political turmoil? Tune in!

Udaipur killing & the larger security question | In our Defence Ep 15 Jul 07, 2022

In the wake of the killings, we address the security ramification of the gruesome murders. Tune in!

Civilians in Military zones | In our Defence Ep 14 Jun 30, 2022

The episode discusses the dynamics of the life of civilians who reside in the “occupied” territories. Tune in!

Agnipath: Is there now clarity?| In our Defence Ep 13 Jun 23, 2022

A week has passed by since the "Agnipath" or Path of Fire initiative was announced for applicants aged 17.5 to 21.  Each year, between 45,000 and 50,000 troops will be recruited, with the majority of them leaving the military after just four years, with only 25% of them being retained after that.
Amid the ongoing protests against the scheme, the Indian Air Force issued its notification, stating that registration will start from June 24. 
Is it acknowledged that things might have been conveyed and people could have been engaged better given the violent protests that erupted following the announcement? And whether this is the best course of action? Should the government have been more explicit about its long-term goals? Why wasn't it implemented as a pilot programme?
Our host Dev Goswami and "Def-Savvy" Abhishek Bhalla, national bureau chief, discuss in this episode of In Our Defence.
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Produced by Anna Priyadarshini
Sound mix by Kapil Dev Singh

Agnipareeksha for big-bang military reforms | In our Defence Ep 12 Jun 16, 2022

Two major military reforms were announced by the government this week, which were received with a lot of criticism. We discuss how viable the reforms are. Tune in!
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Kashmir and its Security Puzzle| In our Defence Ep 11 Jun 09, 2022

This episode of In Our Defence delves at Kashmir's perplexing security apparatus, interspersed with personal reporting experiences from the region. Tune in!

Tour of Duty: A preposterous proposal?| In our Defence Ep 10 Jun 02, 2022

The Army is interested in using Tour of Duty to increase recruiting. The episode dives into the details of the proposal, debating if it is an ill-judged idea. Tune in!

The case of the missing Indian rifle | In our Defence Ep 09 May 26, 2022

We talk about big weapons, like fighter jets and nuclear weapons, but not about integral weapons like rifles. In this episode, we discuss and argue the importance of small arms.

A new normal at the China Border? | In our Defence Ep 08 May 19, 2022

Two years since Ladakh’s Galwan Valley violent clash between the Armies of India and China, what's the status and what lies ahead?

Key lessons for India from Russia-Ukraine war| In Our Defence Ep 07 May 12, 2022

What are the biggest takeaways for India from the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine? Tune in!

The post of CDS lying vacant...What's the way ahead? | In our Defence Ep 06 May 05, 2022

The episode delves into the functioning of the CDS while addressing the concern why no one has been appointed since General Rawat’s demise. Tune in!

Russia-Ukraine: What will the Victory Day unravel? | In our Defence Ep 05 Apr 28, 2022

Will May 9 mark an end to the Russia-Ukraine war? Amid speculations, what will the Victory day entail and unravel? Tune in!

Russia-Ukraine: Around 2 months into war, where is it headed? | In Our Defence Ep 04 Apr 21, 2022

Our defence expert Abhishek Bhalla is in now in Kyiv, Ukraine’s capital. In this episode, host Dev Goswami talks to him about his experiences on the ground, and what has unfolded in the capital since Russia launched a full-scale invasion in February.

Live from the edge of a Warzone...Well, kind of: In our Defence Ep 03 Apr 14, 2022

Our defence expert Abhishek Bhalla is on his way to Ukraine this week. In this episode, host Dev Goswami discusses with Bhalla about his journalistic experiences in conflict zones, and his views on where the war is headed

India-Pakistan LOC: When the guns fall silent... and when they don't: In our Defence Ep 02 Apr 07, 2022

The episode tracks the firings at the LOC while examining the effects of ceasefire violations.

Tracking Pakistan’s military-civilian government struggle: In our Defence, Ep 01 Mar 31, 2022

With Pakistan's current political turbulence in play, the conversation dissects the country’s unstable civilian governments and the major military takeovers.

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