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WTF is Crack Rock Steady? Apr 09, 2025

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This week on In Defense of Ska, the crew asks a question that has been on everyone's mind: What the hell is crack rock steady? Along with author and fellow ska-enjoyer Jeff Burk, the crew discusses the subgenre in all of its glory. Listen now.

The gang tackles everything from crack rock steady's unique musical elements to its aesthetic to its lyrical approach. Along the way, they chat about the groups that helped forge the style, like Choking Victim and Leftover Crack. Don't worry, they also give some of the of the lesser-known but just as important acts their flowers too, like Public Serpents, No Cash, and Team Spider.

They also talk about the Stza problem, debate which of the bands Burk likes the most, and take a look at where the genre is now.

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Support the In Defense host Aaron Carnes by purchasing a copy of his book, In Defense of Ska. The 2nd, expanded edition of In Defense of Ska will release in Oct 2024.

Co-host Adam Davis has a band called Omnigone. Their latest record, Against The Rest released on March 31, 2023.

The In Defense of Ska editor Chris Reeves runs a record label called Ska Punk International. They have new releases coming out all the time.

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Ska as Pop Music in 2025 w/ Catbite and Sarah Tudzin Apr 02, 2025

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When people say they want ska music to come back, what they’re really saying is that they want ska music to once again be a part of the pop music world. If that were to happen, though, it likely wouldn’t sound anything like '90s ska-pop (Reel Big Fish, Save Ferris, Mighty Mighty Bosstones). Simply put, pop music has changed. So, what kind of ska would fit into the current landscape of pop? To answer that question, Catbite and producer Sarah Tudzin join In Defense of Ska to muse over ska's path back into the mainstream, as well as their new EP, Doom Garden. Listen now.

As it happens, Doom Garden works as a pretty fitting example of how ska might be able to fit into contemporary pop. It honors the traditions of the former, while summoning the joy of the latter. The In Defense of Ska crew loves it, and while they're not certain whether or not it'll reach a pop audience, they think it's definitely worth discussing.

Tudzin is also a former guest of the podcast, plays in the band Illuminati Hotties, and has handled production for big indie artists like Weyes Blood, Boygenius, and Speedy Ortiz. So, with her experience in mind, there's even more angles from which to view Doom Garden. Plus, the gang talks about Patrick Stump of Fall Out Boy's feature on “Tired Of Talk,” how they nearly got rapper Tierra Whack on the record, and the influence of Ashlee Simpson and “Jingle Bell Rock."

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Co-host Adam Davis has a band called Omnigone. Their latest record, Against The Rest released on March 31, 2023.

The In Defense of Ska editor Chris Reeves runs a record label called Ska Punk International. They have new releases coming out all the time.

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When Smash Mouth Was a Ska Band Mar 26, 2025

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Back in the mid '90s, ska was on the rise in the United States. Ready to ride the wave, a new band formed in San Jose, California, that specialized in ska-punk and pop-punk tunes, and they called themselves Smash Mouth. Of all the ska tunes on their debut album, Fush Yu Mang, though, it was the non-ska single "Walking on the Sun" that became the hit. The band hasn't played ska since... until now.

On this episode of In Defense of Ska, the crew chats with Smash Mouth bassist (and the sole remaining original member) Paul De Lisle about the band's new ska cover of The Beatle's "Love Me Do," the legacy of Smash Mouth, and more. Listen now.

Elsewhere in the episode, De Lisle goes deep on the band's origins, the recording of Fush Yu Mang, and the band's big break. Along the way, there's tons of great San Jose references, like Taco Bravo, Dot 3, Frontier Wives, Cactus Club, Laundry Works, and Monkey.

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Co-host Adam Davis has a band called Omnigone. Their latest record, Against The Rest released on March 31, 2023.

The In Defense of Ska editor Chris Reeves runs a record label called Ska Punk International. They have new releases coming out all the time.

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Why is Bob Marley more popular now than ever? A conversation with Roger Steffens Mar 19, 2025

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For most of his life, the legendary Bob Marley was actually something of a cult artist. After his death in 1981, though, his popularity only grew and grew. Now, he stands as a bonafide icon. On this episode of In Defense of Ska, Bob Marley expert Roger Steffens joins the podcast to chat about where Marley's legacy stands in 2025. Listen now.

From his hugely popular posthumous album Legend to last year's biopic One Love, every year it seems like the reggae icon gains even more fans. Steffens -- who has penned several books on Marley, including the 2017 definitive oral history So Much Things to Say -- has some thoughts as to why.

The crew discusses One Love and analyzes several other key moments from the past 40 years that have elevated Marley’s place in culture. Steffens also leads the gang down several fascinating side journeys, like Marley’s relationship to U.S. soul artist Johnny Nash.

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Co-host Adam Davis has a band called Omnigone. Their latest record, Against The Rest released on March 31, 2023.

The In Defense of Ska editor Chris Reeves runs a record label called Ska Punk International. They have new releases coming out all the time.

CORRECTIONS: Roger listened to the episode and wanted to make a few corrections: "110,000 people came to Milan in '80, not one hundred ten million - but gee, imagine what a night that would have been - the earth would have tilted. Bob met Johnny Nash in 1968 not 1978, of course. At 82 I just have too damn many dates jangling my brain, trying to keep them straight." -Roger

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The Precure album returns: Kayleigh Malloy & Anj Capizzi discuss the reissue of Kmoy's Precure album Mar 12, 2025

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Kayleigh “Kmoy” Malloy released The Precure Album in 2021. It’s a brilliant, ska concept album that could be described as “Laptop Ska.” That’s changed. Now Kmoy is a full band with guitars and drums. And it sounds incredible. But something else is happening in the world of Kmoy. The Precure Album is finally getting a vinyl release. You can pre-order it here!

This week we talk to Kayleigh (and Anj Capizzi, who did the art for the vinyl re-issue) about The Precure Album, Kmoy the Band and what it’s been like for Kayleigh since she’s transitioned. We also talk about the art book, the mix on the record, a few key songs on Precure, and we get to hear Kayleigh’s riveting Jeff Rosenstock story.

Plus, we get the full story of Kmoy The Band’s cover of “Shed Some Skin” by Slow Gherkin.

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Support the In Defense host Aaron Carnes by purchasing a copy of his book, In Defense of Ska. The 2nd, expanded edition of In Defense of Ska will release in Oct 2024.

Co-host Adam Davis has a band called Omnigone. Their latest record, Against The Rest released on March 31, 2023.

The In Defense of Ska editor Chris Reeves runs a record label called Ska Punk International. They have new releases coming out all the time.

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Political dance music: A conversation with Sergio Rotman from Argentinian ska band Los Fabulosos Cadillacs Mar 05, 2025

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At this point in their career, perhaps it’s unfair to call Los Fabulosos Cadillacs strictly a ska act. The band blends the genre with reggae, wider rock, and various Latin rhythms. However, when they started in the mid-’80s, they were certainly a ska band. Good enough for us! On this episode of In Defense of Ska, Los Fabulosos Cadillacs founder and saxophonist Sergio Rotman joins the podcast to chat about the band, politics, and art. Listen now.

Along with Rotman, the crew discusses how the oppressive politics of Argentina at the time of Los Fabulosos Cadillacs’ formation informed their music — and how they ultimately chose to fight back. They chat about the group’s early, very ska-heavy lyrics and explore the lingering effects of Argentina’s economic issues from that period.

Then, they touch on a funny little thing that happened in the ’90s — Los Fabulosos Cadillacs blowing up thanks to their killer song “Matador.” Along the way, they also chat about collaborating with salsa queen Celia Cruz, covering a Clash song, and the major influence of Madness.

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Support the In Defense host Aaron Carnes by purchasing a copy of his book, In Defense of Ska. The 2nd, expanded edition of In Defense of Ska will release in Oct 2024.

Co-host Adam Davis has a band called Omnigone. Their latest record, Against The Rest released on March 31, 2023.

The In Defense of Ska editor Chris Reeves runs a record label called Ska Punk International. They have new releases coming out all the time.

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