Impolitic with John Heilemann

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Will Leitch & Pablo Torre: The Year In Sports (Shut Up & Dribble? Sure!) Dec 30, 2024

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John is joined by Deadspin founder, New York magazine columnist, and rising-star novelist Will Leitch, and Pablo Torre, former ESPN tyro and current host of the endlessly entertaining podcast Pablo Torre Finds Out to discuss the year in sports and sports culture. The guys discuss Caitlin Clark and the rise of the WNBA; the remarkably hitch-free, thoroughly engrossing, perfect-for-streaming Paris Olympics; how America turned to sports for refuge from the tribal toxicity of the presidential campaign; and why athletes who once embraced woke activism were suddenly more than happy to shut up and dribble. They also dunk repeatedly on Aaron Rodgers—and who’s gonna quarrel with that?

Dylan Byers: The Year In Media (Falling Stars, Tolling Bells, & Self-Abasing Billionaires) Dec 27, 2024

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John is joined by his partner and Puck Superfriend Dylan Byers to look back on the year that was on the Byers beat. John and Dylan shake their heads and let the brickbats fly at the sight of a procession of mega-rich entertainment and tech CEOs bowing and scraping before Donald Trump. They also dig into Dylan’s year-end lists of the media industry’s most significant macro trends, its three biggest winners and three sorriest losers; and theorize on why 2024 saw a resurgence in the commercial fortunes and cultural sway of the podcast game.

Rob Sheffield: The Year in Music (Taylor’s Version) Dec 23, 2024

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John is joined by Rob Sheffield—longtime Rolling Stone writer and author of the recent bestseller Heartbreak Is The National Anthem: How Taylor Swift Reinvented Pop Music—to size up the past year in music. Sheffield discusses the final show of the Eras tour (which, naturally, he attended), the otherworldly success of the tour and the album it spawned, The Tortured Poets Department, and Swift's vast cultural and commercial significance. Sheffield also weighs in on Rolling Stone’s Top 10 albums of the year and teases his own forthcoming list, gushes over the new Martin Scorsese-produced Beatles documentary, and reassures Bob Dylan devotees that their fears about A Complete Unknown, the imminent Dylan biopic starring Timothee Chamelet, are misplaced—it’s not bad, says Rob!

Chris Murphy: “It’s Happening Right in Front of Our Eyes” Dec 20, 2024

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John is joined by Democratic Senator Chris Murphy to discuss Murphy's view that the events of this week are a preview of the assault on the rule of law that Donald Trump intends to wage once he takes office. Murphy connects the dots between House Republicans’ call on the FBI to launch a criminal investigation of Liz Cheney, Trump’s lawsuit against pollster Ann Selzer and the Des Moines Register, Elon Musk’s attack on the bipartisan efforts to avert a government shutdown (and Trump’s endorsement of it), the pre-capitulation to the incoming administration by an array of capitalist titans, and the abdication of the national stage by Joe Biden—arguing that these all are early signs of the onset of oligarchy, and that his fellow Democrats must to do more to rescue American democracy.

Dan Pfeiffer: Mystery Drones, Corporate Lackeys & Resistance 2.0 Dec 18, 2024

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John is joined by Pod Save America cohost, Message Box author, and former top Obama adviser Dan Pfeiffer to discuss Donald Trump’s flood-the-zone transition strategy and the Democratic Party’s future. Pfeiffer argues that the Biden administration’s failure to address the mystery drone story is part of a larger abdication that has let Trump present himself as if he’s been president since Election Day; that Trump’s self-evident intent to turn his second term into a pay-for-play wet dream for plutocrats offers Democrats a chance to seize the mantle of reform and regain their populist mojo; and that Resistance 2.0 can only succeed to the extent it avoids focusing excessively on Trump. Pfeiffer also conducts a kind of autopsy on his own 2024 election post-mortem with the high command of Kamala Harris’s campaign.

Kurt Andersen & Michael Hirschorn: Reality Used to be a Friend of Mine Dec 16, 2024

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John is joined by writer/editor/producers Kurt Andersen and Michael Hirschorn—longtime friends, former business partners, and intellectual entrepreneurs extraordinaire—to take stock of the Trump Era in our politics and culture. The three old friends discuss the once and future president’s reelection, his cabinet picks (one of whom, Kurt reveals, was his college cocaine dealer), and the ways in which the spread of the logic and reality TV not only explains the Trump phenomenon but that of Elon Musk, RFK Jr, and Luigi Mangione. Kurt and Michael also riff on the books, movies, and TV shows that floated their boats this year, from Wicked and Somebody Somewhere to Kendrick Lamar’s GNX.

Alex Wagner: Trump Gets Triggered, Luigi Gets Caught & Guilfoyle Gets Exiled Dec 13, 2024

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John is joined by Alex Wagner, MSNBC primetime host and Heilemann’s former co-star on The Circus, to discuss the big news stories of this past week and cultural touchstones of this past year. Wagner explains how Trump’s efforts at appearing reasonable in his recent Meet The Press interview were foiled by his “spikes of insanity” around freeing imprisoned January 6 rioters, jailing Liz Cheney, and ending birthright citizenship; analyzes his naming of Kimberly Guilfoyle, Don Jr's former fiancee, to be the U.S. ambassador to Greece; and weighs in on the hero worship in certain quarters of Luigi Mangione, accused murderer of healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Alex also reveals the music, movies, TV, and books that slayed her in 2024, as well as her secret history as the author of the beloved (by John, at least) fake food blog The Last Pancake.

Hakeem Jeffries on Trump, Johnson, McCarthy, Biggie & Wu Tang (Oh, My) Dec 11, 2024

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John is joined by House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries to discuss this year’s election, next year’s Congress, and the agita about his party’s future. Jeffries argues that although the Democratic performance on November 5 was undeniably “disappointing,” it was hardly catastrophic; that of all of Donald Trump’s disconcerting appointments, RFK, Jr. as secretary of Health and Human Services may be the most dangerous; and that while he disagrees with Mike Johnson about much, he sees the speaker as a “good man” whom he can do business with (neither of which he could say so readily about Kevin McCarthy). Jeffries also describes how his new children’s book, The ABCs of Democracy, was influenced by Schoolhouse Rock, and offers his (solid) list of the all-time top five rap MCs and (unassailable) opinion that The Wire is the greatest TV show ever made.

Pete Wehner: Hegseth’s Redemption Bromides, Trump’s Rampant Blasphemies & Fast Car’s Radiant Beatitude Dec 09, 2024

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John is joined by Pete Wehner—veteran of the Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43 administrations turned eloquent Never Trumper—to discuss the once and future president's transformation of the GOP, his perplexing appeal to the Christian Right, and more. Wehner explains why the best summation of Trump’s agenda comes from Michel Caine as Alfred in The Dark Knight (“Some men just want to watch the world burn”); Pete Hegseth’s redemption narrative and invocations of his Lord and savior ring so hollow; and so many Evangelicals are so devoted to Trump in spite of his lack of godly virtues. Wehner and John also harken back to the magical duet of Tracy Chapman's Fast Car by Chapman and Luke Combs at this year's Grammy's, and riff on why the emotional outpouring it triggered was a hopeful sign for our politics and culture.

Tina Brown: Trump’s Extended Middle Finger, Biden’s Shambolic Exit, & Martha’s Sad Denouement Dec 06, 2024

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John is joined by Tina Brown, the legendary magazine editrix and his former boss at The New Yorker, to discuss American politics and media at the end of a year of convulsive upheaval in both. Tina riffs on Donald Trump’s reality show transition and its freak show appointments; the soap operatic, still largely untold story of Joe Biden’s family and how it has driven him (notably but not solely by means of the pardon of his son, Hunter) to undermine his legacy as president; the death of the magazine business, her new incarnation as a Substacker, and the broader trends that have leeched both the vitality and sheer fun out of the journalism racket. Tina also explains why she found the new Netflix documentary on Martha Stewart at once so excellent and so sad.

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