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What if the very thing you're trying to hide is the thing keeping you from walking in freedom?
In this powerful episode of I Am Her, Bekah sits down with Pastor Lisa for an honest
conversation about sin, shame, comparison, conviction, surrender, and what happens when we
finally stop hiding. Through the story of Ananias and Sapphira, personal experiences, and
questions from the audience, they explore what it means to expose what's been holding you
back, not for condemnation, but for freedom. _______
What happens when the things you keep hidden are the
very things keeping you from walking in freedom?
In this episode of I Am Her, Bekah and Pastor Lisa dive into what it means to live a life of true
surrender, recognize the things that can pull us away from God's path, and stop allowing shame,
comparison, and our past to define who we are.
From the story of Ananias and Sapphira to honest conversations about friendship,
accountability, condemnation, vulnerability, and hearing God's voice, this episode challenges us
to examine what's happening beneath the surface, and what we're allowing to take root in our
hearts.
What are you agreeing with? What are you hiding? And what would happen if you finally
brought it into the light?
In This Episode
01:07 — Bekah opens the Young Adult Service and introduces Pastor Lisa's message.
01:27 — Exposure: Evil Packed Under — Pastor Lisa introduces the message and begins in the
book of Acts, discussing the first miracle and the growth of the early church.
05:00 — Ananias & Sapphira — generosity, deception, and what happens when we agree with
someone else's sin.
12:00 — Being exposed to environments and situations that challenge your convictions.
14:14 — Having different standards without judging others, maintaining friendships, and the
difference between attending church and allowing God to change your behavior.17:09 — What does it mean to be a "full Christian"? God's standard vs. the standards we create
through comparison.
21:10 — Bekah opens up about growing up in church, shame, comparison, and being afraid to
let people see who she really was.
31:19 — Giving people an opportunity to change, allowing people into church despite their past,
and how sharing your own struggles can help set someone else free.
35:36 — When your past makes you feel undeserving, and why parents need to create safe
spaces for their children to be honest about what they're going through.
43:06 — Walking through the door of freedom and choosing to step into the light.
50:55 — Breaking the cycle of condemnation and learning to stop condemning yourself.
56:40 —
"What is the best advice for walking this journey alone?"
season of being alone can become an opportunity to get closer to Jesus.
— Pastor Lisa explains why a
58:42 —
"How do you know when to give someone grace?"
knowing when confrontation is necessary.
— Grace, accountability, and
1:01:00 —
"How do I know if I'm surrendering something to God or just avoiding it?"
Understanding conviction, surrender, prayer, and discernment.
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1:05:00 — Learning to recognize when God is speaking, developing discernment, and being
willing to respond.
1:05:00+ — Pastor Lisa's reminder: "Don't delay God's blessings.
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1:12:00 — Bekah closes the episode.
Exposure isn't about shame. It's about bringing what has been hidden into the light so that
freedom can begin.
Your past doesn't disqualify you. Your mistakes don't have to define you. And you don't have to
stay bound by the things God is asking you to surrender.
Sometimes the first step toward freedom is simply being willing to be honest.
What if the most dangerous thing isn't losing God's presence, but losing His presence and not even realizing it? In this powerful message from Girls Night In, Young Adult Pastor, Bekah Lagafuaina challenges us to look honestly at the places where compromise, comfort, fear, and temporary pleasure may be costing us what God has entrusted to us. What are you willing to trade for comfort? In this powerful message from Girls Night In, Bekah Lagafuaina shares a deeply personal testimony about learning to surrender fear, control, comfort, and compromise to say yes to God fully. Through the story of Samson, Bekah reminds us that compromise rarely happens all at once. It can happen one decision at a time, until we become so comfortable with what we've compromised that we no longer recognize what we've lost. She challenges us to ask: 1. Are we letting what we want become louder than what God said? 2. Are we protecting what God has entrusted to us? 3. Have we confused God's grace with His approval? 4. Are we relying on someone else's prayers, faith, or anointing instead of cultivating our own relationship with Jesus? The story of the ten bridesmaids in Matthew 25 reminds us that having a lamp isn't the same as having oil. We cannot live off someone else's anointing. We need our own oil. We need our own relationship with Jesus. And above everything God has called us to carry, the greatest thing we can carry is His presence. Bekah also shares part of her personal journey with her husband Elijah, the prayers she prayed when others didn't yet understand their relationship, and how God's faithfulness brought what He had shown her full circle. "Whatever it costs to keep His presence is worth it." _____________________ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 — The Word God Put on Her Heart: Compromise 01:40 — When Comfort Makes Us Compromise Our Calling 03:20 — Fear, Control & Learning to Depend on God 05:43 — Your Yes Can't Be Conditional 08:58 — Don't Trade the Oil 09:55 — Samson: When Temporary Pleasure Costs You Something Eternal 19:50 — Four Warnings About Compromise 23:05 — The Danger of Losing God's Presence Without Realizing It 24:03 — The Ten Bridesmaids & The Oil 29:38 — "God, May Your Anointing Never Leave Me" 30:38 — Don't Get Caught Up in Your Delilahs 31:22 — There Is Still a Way Back 32:50 — Whatever It Costs to Keep His Presence Is Worth It 34:09 — Bekah & Elijah: Trusting God Through the Unknown 37:50 — When God's Promises Come Full Circle 39:34 — A Full-Circle Moment in Australia 41:27 — Psalm 51:10–12 42:55 — Prayer Over the Audience 46:00 — Prayer of Salvation & Closing Scripture referenced: Judges 13–16 • Matthew 25:1–13 • Psalm 51:10–12 If this message speaks to you, share it with a woman who needs the reminder: don't trade what God has given you for what only feels good for a moment. Follow Lisa Kai and Bekah Lagafuaina on all digital platforms: - Lisa Kai @lisakai - Bekah Lagafuaina @bkaiii Don't forget to learn more about our upcoming Arise Womens Conference coming in February 2024. Check out this link for more information: https://www.arise-movement.com
How many times have you looked in the mirror and quietly asked yourself, "Am I enough?" What if everything you've believed about your worth has been built on a lie? Today, we're uncovering the truth God has been speaking over you all along.
Have you ever wondered… "Am I good enough?" "Have I done enough?" "Will I ever be enough?" If you've wrestled with comparison, perfectionism, insecurity, or the pressure to prove yourself, this conversation is for you. In Episode 2 of our Conversations with Mom series, Pastor Lisa and her daughter Bekah have an honest conversation about what it truly means to be sufficient in Christ. Too many women measure their worth by performance, social media, achievements, relationships, or other people's opinions. But God has never asked us to be perfect; He simply asks us to trust Him. Together they discuss: ● Why comparison steals confidence ● How perfectionism keeps us stuck ● Learning to recognize the gifts God already placed inside you ● Building God-confidence instead of self-confidence ● Healing from feelings of not being enough ● Elijah's powerful testimony of overcoming rejection and finding identity in Christ ● Practical ways to strengthen your relationship with Jesus and walk confidently in your calling If you've ever questioned your value, this episode will remind you that your identity isn't found in what you do; it's found in who you are in Christ. You are already enough because His fullness lives inside of you. Timestamps 00:00 Welcome! Pastor Lisa introduces herself and her daughter, Bekah 01:39 "Have you ever felt like you weren't enough?" 03:14 Conversations with Mom (Episode 2): Your value comes from who God says you are 05:00 Bekah shares why she didn't feel qualified for ministry 06:30 The danger of comparison and trying to fit in 08:45 Pastor Lisa's first leadership calling and discovering your God-given gifts 10:45 Perfectionism vs. willingness: Why God doesn't need perfection 12:15 Social media and the constant pressure to measure up 14:58 Why comparison will destroy your confidence 18:00 Psalm 139: God knew you before you were born 20:00 God never asked you to be enough; His fullness is enough 23:07 Learning dependence on God instead of perfection 24:31 2 Corinthians 3:5; Our sufficiency comes from Christ 24:45 Too many voices are telling us who we're not 28:17 His fullness lives inside of you 29:28 Elijah's powerful testimony of overcoming rejection and finding healing 34:43 Practical ways to overcome insecurity: worship, gratitude, community & Jesus 37:44 Celebrate one another instead of competing 41:00 You are more than enough 41:25 Final encouragement and closing prayer
#IAMHERPodcast #ChristianWomen #FaithOverFear #IdentityInChrist #WomenOfFaith #ChristianPodcast #BiblicalTruth #GodConfidence #JesusChangesEverything #EnoughInChrist Lisa Kai | @lisakai Bekah Lagafuaina | @bkaiii
Have you ever wondered why God allows seasons of pressure, waiting, and heartbreak? In this powerful Girls' Night In message, Pastor Lisa Kai reminds us that God never wastes our pain. Just as olives must be crushed before oil can flow, our greatest seasons of pressure often become the birthplace of healing, purpose, and spiritual maturity. If you're walking through disappointment, waiting on God, or wondering why life feels heavy, this conversation will encourage you to stay under His covering, trust the process, and choose life, even when it hurts.
Not every season is meant to feel comfortable. Sometimes God allows the crushing, not to destroy us, but to release what He has already placed inside of us. In this powerful message from Girls Night In, Pastor Lisa Kai challenges us to stop living in yesterday's victories and make room for the new thing God wants to do. Through biblical teaching, personal stories, and practical encouragement, she unpacks how seasons of pressure can either produce fresh oil or leave us trapped in bitterness. Whether you're navigating heartbreak, singleness, disappointment, grief, or simply waiting on God, this episode will remind you that your pain has purpose and that God is still writing your story.
Timestamps
00:00 – Worship with Pastor Lisa Kai
01:00 – God wants to do a new thing: Let go of yesterday and embrace what He's doing now.
03:00 – Prayer before today's message.
05:00 – Welcome to Girls' Night In.08:18 – Bitterness, Naomi, and the danger of allowing pain to define your future.
12:35 – Why olives must be crushed before oil can flow and what that means for us spiritually.
14:54 – The pressing of the Holy Spirit: Will your pain produce oil or toxins?
18:36 – Open wounds, jealousy, unforgiveness, and choosing life (Deuteronomy 30:19).
21:25 – Every decision shapes your future. Choosing God's path every day.
24:37 – Learning to love people now if we're going to spend eternity together.
26:45 – A real-life story about confrontation, reconciliation, and God's power to restore a
marriage.
31:58 – Why God doesn't always remove the pressure.
33:01 – Romans 5:3–5: How perseverance produces character and hope.
33:42 – Waiting with purity, trusting God's timing, and allowing the pressing to expose what still
needs healing.
36:38 – Stay under God's covering during difficult seasons (Psalm 91:1–2).
38:01 – Don't quit. Don't lose heart.
40:00 – Don't leave before the oil begins to flow (2 Corinthians 4:16–17).
44:25 – Jesus' crushing became our healing.
47:29 – Closing prayer.
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What do you do when God feels silent, prayers feel unanswered, and everyone else seems to be receiving the blessing you've been waiting for? In this deeply honest episode, Bekah and Pastor Lisa unpack what it truly means to trust God in seasons of disappointment, waiting, grief, and uncertainty. From miscarriages and delayed prayers to surrendering control and learning how to celebrate others while still hurting yourself, this conversation is raw, vulnerable, healing, and full of hope. If you've ever asked God,"Why not me?", this episode is for you.
In this new six-week series, Bekah and Pastor Lisa dive into the difficult yet transformative journey of trusting God, especially when life doesn't make sense. Together, they share personal stories about strained relationships, waiting seasons, miscarriage, emotional healing, and learning how to surrender control to God. Through stories of Hannah, Hagar, and Job, they remind listeners that trusting God isn't always pretty; sometimes it looks like crying in your closet, wrestling with disappointment, and choosing faith even when your heart is hurting.
Pastor Lisa reflects on waiting 9 years to conceive, while Bekah opens up about miscarriage, delayed prayers, and how God taught her to celebrate others while still waiting for her own miracle.
This episode is a reminder that:
Whether you're waiting for healing, restoration, a breakthrough, provision, or a promise, this conversation will encourage you to keep trusting God, even when you don't understand the process.
00:00 – Introduction
Bekah introduces the new six-week series Conversations With My Mother and today's topic:
trusting God even when you don't understand it.
01:00 – Trusting God Through Relationships & Family
Pastor Lisa shares how trust impacts parenting, marriage, friendships, and relationships through
every season of life.
02:50 – Growing Into Mature Conversations
Bekah reflects on how her relationship with her mother evolved over time and the importance of
maturity in communication.
04:40 – What Trusting God Really Looks Like
Pastor Lisa explains that trusting God means stepping into the unknown without knowing the
outcome.
07:30 – Trusting God During Waiting Seasons
Discussion about unanswered prayers, disappointment, confusion, and learning to trust God
when life feels uncertain.
13:50 – Pastor Lisa's 9-Year Waiting Season
Pastor Lisa vulnerably shares her infertility journey and how God strengthened her during the
wait.
18:46 – Pretending to Trust vs Actually Surrendering
Bekah opens up about struggling privately while publicly saying she trusted God.
30:00 – Miscarriage, Grief & Choosing Celebration
Bekah shares her miscarriage story and how God challenged her to celebrate other women's
pregnancies despite her pain.
38:52 –
"One Day You Will Understand.
"
Pastor Lisa encourages listeners that delayed blessings often deepen gratitude and
appreciation once they arrive.
41:18 – Prayer for Those in the Waiting
Pastor Lisa prays over everyone currently waiting for healing, breakthrough, restoration, or
answered prayers.
43:07 – ClosingBekah closes the episode and encourages listeners to like, share, subscribe, and continue
following the series. ________________________
Throwing it way back this episode holds a special kind of weight. This marks the very first time Bekah and Pastor Lisa came together for a podcast conversation, diving into a question many people quietly wrestle with: what does it truly mean to be all in with God? Not halfway. Not casually showing up. But living fully immersed in faith. Through a powerful and relatable picture of jumping in headfirst despite fear, hesitation, or uncertainty, this episode challenges listeners to move beyond the edge and into full surrender. For anyone who has ever felt stuck, distracted, or unsure about taking that next step with God, this conversation offers both perspective and encouragement. Watch now you won't regret it. #AllInWithGod #FaithJourney #ChristianPodcast #TrustGod #FaithOverFear #Surrender #WalkByFaith #JesusFirst #SpiritualGrowth #FaithTalks #GodFirst #PurposeDriven #DiveIn #NoHoldingBack #KingdomLiving ___________ 0:00 - Welcome & opening prayer 1:00 - Arise 2018 intro - "You're gonna laugh, cry & have Aha God moments" 2:00 - Breaking the ice: the lady next to you really likes you 3:00 - How Arise started from a whisper God gave Lisa at Hillsong Sydney 4:00 - A prophet in Australia sends a vision for the conference 5:00 - "This is the 8th year and it feels different" - sensing something new 6:00 - The labor pains before the conference (it's giving birth energy 7:00 - Theme revealed: IMMERSED - and God already flooded the island 8:00 - What does it mean to be fully immersed? All in. No halfway. 9:00 - Romans 13:14 - clothe yourself fully in Jesus 10:00 - Galatians 2:20 - dying to your old self through full immersion 11:00 - Lisa's pool confession: "I never put my head in the water" 12:00 - Extensions, hair days & all the excuses we make not to get in 13:00 - The video of Lisa actually jumping in (her shirt went up 14:00 - What it felt like to finally go under - and what God showed her 15:00 - "'Can you imagine what we could do for the kingdom if we were ALL in?" 16:00 - The kind of team God is calling us to be - united, competing together 17:00 - Why so many of us aren't fully all in with Jesus 18:00 - John 4: He is the living water - why we need to immerse in Him 19:00 - What's holding us back: doubt, trust, not feeling good enough 20:00 - Lisa's testimony: the broken relationship that led her to God 21:00 - The 5-minute prayer that got answered with a phone call 22:00 - "God, if I give you my life, will you bring my boyfriend back?" 23:00 - The year she tested the waters & gave God a deadline 24:00 - "I went all in and never looked back" - what full immersion produced 25:00 - Sheila Walsh quote: stop standing on the edge of the water of life 26:00 - Eliminating excuses - lashes, hair, breathing & "Christians are weird" 27:00 - God always throws us a life ring when we feel like we're drowning 28:00 - God has your back when you jump in not knowing what's underneath 29:00 - Isaiah 43:19 - God is doing a new thing, plunge in 30:00 - Raising the next generation to love Jesus (the kids' church years 31:00 - Introducing Bekah - "she has her own fan base" 32:00 - Bekah's story begins: turning 21 & what God was preparing her for 33:00 - The college years, watching from afar & praying every night 34:00 - The moment Bekah chose God over her friend group 35:00 - God's word for Bekah: "preparation" - two years in a row 36:00 - Pastor Leanne's prophecy over Bekah at Arise: "you'll be like your parents" 37:00 - Finding her people: aligning with those going the same direction 38:00 - Posting her devos on Instagram - and the DMs that started flooding in 39:00 - A guy friend asks her to breakfast to ask about God 40:00 - "God told me to start a connect group - next week" - and she did it 41:00 - Lisa reflects: "She was the prime definition of a lukewarm Christian" 42:00 - How do we reach a generation that loves God but isn't fully in? 43:00 - Why Bekah wanted the Bible study outside the church building 44:00 - Bekah's two scriptures: Luke 1:45 & Habakkuk 2:3 45:00 - "You cannot be lukewarm - your purpose is tied to full immersion" 46:00 - A word to the moms: keep praying, keep believing, it will come to pass 47:00 - Lisa's closing charge: I felt like a coach - I need you ALL in 48:00 - Bobbie Houston, Lisa Bevere & the women pouring into this movement 49:00 - Final call: don't be a half Christian - jump all the way in 50:00 - Closing prayer: "Help us immerse all in and hear how much You love us"
Are you truly living like you're engaged to Jesus... or just
casually connected?
In this episode of the I AM HER Podcast, Pastor Lisa Kai and Bekah dive into the powerful analogy of engagement, both in relationships and in our walk with Christ. From hilarious proposal stories to deep spiritual truths, this conversation will challenge you to examine how you're living in the "waiting season."
This isn't just about waiting... It's about preparing.
Whether you've just said "yes" to Jesus or you've been walking with Him for years, this episode will stir your heart to live with urgency, devotion, and purpose. __________________________________
00:00 – Welcome + podcast banter 00:55 – Engagement topic introduction 01:24 – Ice cream sundae proposal story 04:37 – Beach surprise proposal 11:19 – Engaged to Jesus: the bigger picture 12:10 – Preparing as the bride 13:46 – Jewish wedding traditions explained 16:28 – Your first "yes" to Jesus 17:01 – Waiting with purpose (Part 1) 17:40 – Waiting with purpose (Part 2) 18:44 – Lessons in preparation
20:04 – Warning against casual faith 21:40 – Jesus prepares a place for us 23:38 – Wedding planning & spiritual parallels 25:12 – Undivided devotion to God 28:32 – Inviting others to the wedding feast 31:28 – Keeping your lamp full 34:33 – You need your own oil 37:57 – Encouragement + closing prayer
What if the very things you've been praying for, strength, patience, joy, and power, are already inside of you? In this powerful message from the Arise Conference, Pastor Lisa Kai reminds us that the fullness of Christ isn't something we're waiting to receive; it's something we already carry. The question isn't whether God has given it to you. The question is: will you live from it? Because the truth is... girl, you are so full of it.
At the Arise Conference, Pastor Lisa Kai delivers a powerful reminder that many believers spend their lives searching for what they already possess.
In this message, she challenges women to stop striving for more and start living from the fullness of Christ already inside them.
Through scripture, personal stories, and bold encouragement, Pastor Lisa reminds us that God has already equipped us with everything we need: patience, joy, authority, perseverance, and power.
And if you want access to all Arise Conference updates, messages, and exclusive content, you can purchase the Arise Drop Card, which unlocks everything from this powerful gathering. You won't want to miss what God is doing. Because the truth is... Girl, You Are So Full of It! For more information on the Arise Conference 2026 Drop Card: https://www.arise-movement.com Lisa Kai Webpage for all books and resources: lisakai.tv
Lisa Kai Instagram: @lisakai
Lisa Kai YouTube: Lisa Kai
What happens when a mother says yes to God, and a daughter finds the courage to do the same?
In this deeply personal episode, Bekah sits down with her mom, Pastor Lisa Kai, to talk about fullness, obedience, rebellion, legacy, and the quiet moments that shape generations.
In this intimate I AM HER Podcast conversation, Bekah and her mom, Pastor Lisa Kai, reflect on motherhood, calling, and what it truly means to walk in God's fullness. From early seasons of Arise to moments of rebellion, obedience, sacrifice, and overflow, this episode captures the beauty of legacy lived out in real time.
Whether you're a mother, a daughter, or somewhere in between, this episode is an invitation to step into fullness and trust that your obedience creates courage in the next generation.
Arise Conference 2026, February 19 + 20 | Honolulu, HI https://www.arise-movement.com Lisa Kai Webpage: lisakai.tv
Lisa Kai Instagram: @lisakai
Bekah Lagafuaina Instagram: @bkaiii
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00:00 – Bekah introduces herself and her mom, Pastor Lisa Kai 00:45 – Bekah shares why her mom is her role model as a pastor, mother, and wife 02:00 – Pastor Lisa reflects on her role models and the women who shaped her life 04:10 – "I'm becoming mom" — the realization daughters have as they grow 06:36 – What walking in fullness really means 10:04 – "When a mother walks in fullness, a daughter walks in courage." 11:45 – How fullness is modeled through generations of women
16:30 – Obedience leads to overflow and ripple effects through families 20:30 – Three daughters, three seasons, one calling 24:00 – The moment Pastor Lisa saw Bekah truly turn toward God 28:21 – The story of the prodigal sons, and the Father who goes after both 30:08 – Trusting God's timing in relationships and identity
37:03 – 32 years of marriage and the calling that sustained it all 40:10 – Spiritual warfare, calling, and the early signs of Bekah's purpose 43:47 – Growing up in Arise and witnessing its full-circle moment today 50:35 – Obedience turns the page to your next chapter 51:40 – Mothers permitting their children to grow and make mistakes 59:30 – Honoring one another through every season of life 01:03:00 – Closing prayers over mothers and daughters
What happens when God plants a vision years before you feel ready to carry it?
In this powerful collaboration between Pound for Pound Leadership and the I AM HER Podcast, Pastor Mike and Pastor Lisa Kai share the deeply personal, faith-filled journey behind Arise, from a whispered prayer to a movement now filling the Blaisdell with thousands of women.
This is a conversation about obedience, timing, marriage, leadership, and what it really looks like to say yes to God, even when it's uncomfortable, inconvenient, and requires everything.
In this special collaboration episode of Pound for Pound Leadership Podcast and the I AM HER Podcast, Pastor Mike Kai sits down with his wife, Pastor Lisa Kai, to unpack the story behind Arise, a women's movement that began with a quiet prayer and has grown into a global vision impacting thousands.
Pastor Lisa shares how God began stirring something in her heart 15 years ago, long before she felt ready, and how moments of obedience, confirmation, and even disruption shaped the calling she now walks in. Together, Pastor Mike and Pastor Lisa reflect on leadership within marriage, supporting one another's calling, and stewarding a vision that was never meant to be convenient.
From international conferences to floods that forced last-minute miracles, this episode is a reminder that when God says He's doing a new thing, you have to be willing to perceive it.
If you've ever wrestled with purpose, timing, or stepping into what God has placed inside of you, this conversation will encourage, challenge, and inspire you. Arise Conference 2026, February 19 + 20 | Honolulu, HI https://www.arise-movement.com Lisa Kai Webpage: lisakai.tv
Lisa Kai Instagram: @lisakai ______________
00:13 – Pastor Mike welcomes listeners and introduces Pastor Lisa
01:00 – Pastor Lisa shares her excitement for the collaboration and the origin of Arise 03:00 – Pastor Mike on growing together and not holding each other back 05:00 – A vision sparked at a conference in New Zealand 07:06 – When you ask God, He will show you
10:33 – Transitioning leadership of the women's ministry 12:46 – Argentina, Australia, and prophetic confirmations 16:45 – Out of Control and Loving It and God's preparation 20:37 – Returning home changed, but not fully ready 28:00 – Arise as a living, growing vision (from small beginnings to 10,000 seats) 34:19 – "I want to do a new thing, can you perceive it?"
36:50 – Pastor Lisa speaks directly to the women about Arise 39:50 – Discovering your voice while honoring marriage and partnership 46:18 – Men's ministry growth and how husbands can support Arise 49:08 – A beautiful moment of honor and love after 25 years of ministry52:44 – Why John and Lisa Bevere matter to the Arise story 58:29 – Pastor Lisa's first encounter with Lisa Bevere 01:00:00 – Closing remarks and invitation to subscribe and visit mikekai.tv
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