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    Hot Marriage. Cool Parents.

    Are you looking for someone to share their deepest, darkest secrets on keeping their marriage spicy? Are you like, “puhhlease DISH on how to be a cool parent .. because, yeah … I dunno!” Well Jamie Otis and Doug Hehner have got all you hubbies and wifeys – and mommies and daddies – covered, because each week they find a guest who will SPILL all their dirty secrets! Because we all wanna keep our marriages hot and our parenting cool!

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    Ep 14: Questions for Jamie Mar 26, 2019
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    Hey, frans! Jamie here. Doug couldn’t join me today (except for a quick intro), so you get to hear from just me in this episode! I might have been just a little jealous that Doug got to do his very own Q&A episodes, so it’s my turn today. Since Doug wasn’t able to be here anyway, it was perfect timing for this episode. I put out an invitation for questions on Instagram, and got plenty of responses that I’m excited to address today, so let’s dive right in! First up, I’ll talk about whether I’m cleared to start trying for another baby yet. (Not quite, but we’re getting closer.) I’ll also chat about sleep training and whether we ever co-slept with Gracie. We didn’t co-sleep with her, as I’ll explain in more depth, and getting her to sleep was a lot of work. She had to be rocked until she fell asleep, and then even longer to make sure she was in a deep sleep before we could put her down. Our next question is about my last name, and whether I legally changed it to match Doug’s or kept my maiden name. (Curious about the answer? You’ll have to tune into the episode!) I’ll chat about how many words Gracie can say, whether we enjoy or feel disrupted when fans recognize us in public and say hi, how to stay positive when you see other people around you getting pregnant and much more. In today’s Q&A episode, I’ll go from the fun and lighthearted to the deeply personal, and answer as many of your questions as I can! You know how devoted I am to being honest and transparent with you, and this episode is a great opportunity for that. In This Episode: [00:58] - Doug welcomes listeners to the show, and explains that this is another Q&A episode, featuring Jamie this time. [02:32] - Today’s shoutout goes to an iTunes listener who left a review. [05:29] - The first question of the day is about whether Jamie is cleared to start trying for another baby! [06:42] - How old was Gracie when Doug and Jamie started sleep training, and did they co-sleep with her? [11:32] - Jamie talks about whether she legally changed her last name. [12:26] - How many words is Gracie saying now that she’s 18 months old? [13:22] - Jamie shares her feelings on being approached for pictures in public, and shares their mailing address. [16:27] - Did Jamie have postpartum depression or anxiety? [18:47] - Jamie addresses a question about whether she has found her dad yet. [21:26] - What is Jamie’s favorite part of LA? [22:31] - What has been the best, and what has been the hardest, in Jamie and Doug’s marriage so far? [24:55] - How did Doug’s family react after reading Jamie’s book, Wifey 101? [23:56] - If it hadn’t worked out with Doug, would Jamie have gone on another reality show to find love? [26:39] - Jamie shares some advice on how to stay positive as you see everyone around you getting pregnant. [33:10] - What was it like being a nurse? In her answer, Jamie clarifies that she still is a nurse, and will continue to be. [34:25] - Has becoming parents made Jamie and Doug stronger as a couple, or has it made things harder? [35:37] - What scares Jamie the most about being a mom? [36:56] - Jamie talks about whether she would let her daughter get married at first sight in the future. [38:13] - Any blood work back in terms of baby-making? [39:03] - We hear more about the benefits of sleep training in response to a fan’s question. [40:03] - Does Jamie like the west coast better than the east coast? [40:47] - Will Jamie and Doug continue trying to conceive, or will they go for adoption instead? [41:54] - Jamie talks about whether her first impression of Doug still impacts their relationship today. [42:32] - How many kids do Doug and Jamie want? [42:53] - That’s it! Are you dying to know the answer to a question that wasn’t answered here? Shoot Jamie your question on Instagram! Links and Resources: Married at First Sight Married at First Sight Happily Ever After? Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents ...

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    Ep 13: Going Behind the Scenes of Reality TV with Kate Casey Mar 19, 2019
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    Before we dive in today, we just want to take a moment to say thank you! We really appreciate that you’re here and listening to our show, and how loyal and supportive you are. In today’s show, we’ll start off by chatting about Married at First Sight! The current season is coming to a close, and soon the couples will need to decide whether they want to stay married. So if you’re not up-to-date on the show, go watch it and then come back so you don’t accidentally hear spoilers! Can you believe that Kate and Luke have been having sex since the honeymoon?! The way he talks about her has never been okay, but knowing that they’ve been intimate this whole time is wild. We’ll also talk about AJ and Stephanie’s interactions in the newest episode, and Stephanie’s (wise!) decision to go to bed mid-drama. Everyone is talking about Kate and Luke, so we’d love to hear your thoughts on AJ and Stephanie in particular! Our guest today is Kate Casey, who you may recognize from her podcast Reality Life with Kate Casey! She interviews top producers and directors, and somehow manages to get the inside scoop on everything. Today, she goes beyond her professional life, and explains both her complicated relationship with her father and what it’s like to be a parent of five children. Kate believes that lots of people (including some from this season of MAFS…) go on reality shows not because they believe in the premise of the show, but because they want a boost to their business or social media. Tune into the episode to hear more about her theory, as well as which shows she recommends watching! In This Episode: [00:58] - Welcome to the show, and thank you so much for being here! Before we start, here’s a shoutout to a listener who left a review on iTunes. [02:32] - Let’s talk about Married at First Sight! We’re approaching the end of the season, when the people on the show will decide whether they want to get married. [05:06] - Jamie and Doug move onto talking about AJ and Stephanie, and whether any of the couples are a genuinely good match. [07:23] - Doug and Jamie introduce today’s guest, Kate Casey. [09:08] - Kate talks about her life growing up, and explains the complicated non-relationship that she had with her father (and how they get along today). [14:00] - We learn that Kate’s father isn’t interested in doing a DNA test. [14:48] - Is it manageable to have five kids? [20:48] - Kate has been watching this season of Married at First Sight, and shares her reaction to Luke as well as her thoughts on why people tend to go on later seasons of reality shows. [25:18] - Kate talks about how many cast members pitch themselves for a spinoff, and shares her experience in meeting the cast of 90 Day Fiance. [31:06] - Jamie rewinds a bit and explains what they’re talking about for anyone who isn’t up to date on this season of MAFS. [34:05] - Would Kate sleep with someone if they told her that they felt dead and repulsed after making out with her? [35:58] - Kate shares her thoughts on this season of the Bachelor, and whether Colton is in love with any of the girls. [39:16] - Doug explains that lots of the guys auditioning for MAFS in the first season were actors. [41:43] - Jamie believes that the experts on MAFS are pure, she explains. [46:43] - The American MAFS is more genuine than the Australian version, Jamie explains, and Kate talks more about the Australian version. [50:28] - Kate offers some suggestions for reality shows that Jamie might like to binge. [52:01] - What are Kate’s top three favorite reality shows, and what are some she dislikes? [59:47] - We hear Kate’s recommendation for what to watch after finishing Leaving Neverland. [61:41] - Where can listeners find Kate to learn more about her or keep up with her podcast? Links and Resources: Married at First Sight Married at First Sight Happily Ever After? Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagr...

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    Ep 12: Questions for Doug Part 2 Mar 13, 2019
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    A couple weeks ago, we did an episode where Doug answered a lot of questions from listeners. We really enjoyed it, and from the feedback we’ve gotten, it sounds like you did too! He got so many questions, though, that we weren’t able to cover them all in just one episode. Since you liked that one so much, we’re back with part two to finish answering all the questions we didn’t get to last time! Jamie needs to head out, so most of this episode will just be Doug answering your questions! If you’ve ever wanted to hear more about him and have him be the star of the show for an episode, this is the one for you, so don’t miss it. He’ll answer questions ranging from the deeply personal to the fun and whimsical, and you’ll get a great insight into who he is. Doug will start things off by talking about his expectations of being a parent, and how the reality was different from what he expected. As he’ll point out, one of the hardest things is not knowing what you’re doing right. He’ll then talk about how much of Married at First Sight is real as opposed to staged or edited for dramatic effect. At least in the first season, it was all real! (And no, Doug doesn’t get to see new MAFS episodes before they air.) Other great questions that Doug will answer include whether he feels like being on TV has changed him (and whether any changes were for the better), whether he got much extra attention from women (and ex-girlfriends in particular) after the show aired, what Doug’s best piece of marriage advice is, and even how Doug lost his virginity. Don’t miss this unique episode that lets you learn more about Doug, his perspective, and his experiences as a husband, dad, and MAFS success story. In This Episode: [00:07] - Doug announces that he and Jamie want to give listener shoutouts, and explains how to potentially get a shoutout in a future episode! [01:37] - Jamie chats about how much Doug enjoys this kind of episode, and mentions that she’ll be absent for most of today’s show. [03:33] - The first question for Doug is about what has surprised him the most about parenthood, and what was easier (and harder) than he expected. [06:41] - Doug shares the next question, which is about whether Doug and Jamie will do more (and longer) vlogs on YouTube. [07:52] - How much of Married at First Sight is real? And will Doug and Jamie be visiting Toronto any time soon? [10:40] - Before MAFS, had Doug ever been close to proposing to someone? [12:21] - Doug answers a question about whether he gets to see new MAFS episodes before everyone else. He then talks about how he handled the recent miscarriage. [15:13] - What does the tattoo across Doug’s chest mean? Did Doug end up getting stitches in his hand, after his recent incident with a knife? [17:00] - Now that Doug is in the public eye, are women coming onto him more? Have any of his ex-girlfriends reached out to him? [21:05] - Does Doug think that being on TV has changed him as an individual? If so, was it for the better? [23:25] - What is Doug’s favorite movie and TV show? What is he listening to? Do Doug and Jamie get free or discounted merchandise in exchange for promotions? And would Doug and Jamie get matching tattoos? [26:55] - How do Doug and Jamie deal with having a difference of opinion when it comes to raising Henley? [28:52] - Doug answers a question about how he and Jamie get through their losses. [32:36] - Which bands, music, and singers does Doug like? [34:31] - Doug explains why he and Jamie are in California at the moment, and whether it’s a permanent move. [37:00] - What’s Doug’s top piece of marriage advice, coming from the perspective of a guy? [39:58] - Doug answers a multiple-part question about his dream job, whether he’s a Trump supporter, whether he goes to church, and whether he’s a good dancer. [42:13] - What one thing should women understand about how men feel during the fertility struggle? [45:25] - Is Doug’s hair growing back yet? Does he get hit on a lot? Has anyone e...

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    Ep 11: Motherhood in Hollywood Mar 06, 2019
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    We’re super excited to have Heather Brooker on the show today. This mom, comedian, podcaster, and actress has been on shows including The Office and Grey’s Anatomy, and Jamie really looks up to her. If you’re not familiar with her from her acting roles, you might recognize her from her podcast Motherhood in Hollywood. As you’ll hear in this conversation, Jamie is really excited to hear about Heather’s life and career. Heather has been a TV reporter and international correspondent, as well as a host on the red carpet at the Oscars, so you can imagine why Jamie is thrilled for this conversation! You’ll love it, too, because it’s a powerful look into accomplishing big dreams, even when it takes a while. One thing that Heather has struggled with is finding a place in Hollywood as a heavier actress. We’ll go into some depth today about the issues with typecasting and the tendency to portray heavy people as being funny when they’re the butt of fat jokes instead of being comedic in their own right. As you might have guessed from that, being heavy in Hollywood requires a lot of confidence. And, luckily, that’s something that Heather has! It’s great to hear her take on how she builds and maintains this confidence, even when it seems like the people around her are set on destroying it. In fact, she’s so confident that she’s able to joke and laugh about events that would hurt other people deeply. Just wait ‘til you hear her story about trying to get Hugh Grant’s attention! Tune in to hear a refreshing, down-to-earth, and downright funny perspective on what it’s like to be a mother in Hollywood, a heavier woman on the red carpet, and a wife who’s been married for more than half of her life. She’s an amazing person, and this conversation was such a treat! Today’s Guest: Heather Brooker Heather Brooker in Twitter Heather Brooker on Instagram Heather Brooker on LinkedIn Motherhood in Hollywood Motherhood in Hollywood on Facebook In This Episode: [01:20] - Welcome to the show, and thank you to everyone who asked Doug a question last week! [06:38] - Doug introduces today’s guest, Heather Brooker. Heather’s daughter also chimes in to say hi! [09:17] - Heather talks about how she came up with the name Motherhood in Hollywood. [11:15] - What was it like to be a host on the red carpet at the Oscars? [11:17] - Jamie responds to Heather, sharing a point about reaching for big dreams. [14:52] - We hear a bit of a blog post that Heather wrote that really resonated with Jamie, and that a lot of listeners will probably relate to as well. [19:15] - Doug responds to what Heather has been saying about her audition for the part of “Fat Pam.” [21:04] - Heather points out that fat jokes are an easy target, and digs into why it might be more acceptable to make fat jokes than racial jokes, for example. [23:21] - Is Heather’s daughter always in the back of her mind when she’s choosing new roles? [25:43] - Heather shares a story about being on Facebook Live at the red carpet, as well as other tales from the red carpet. [30:25] - We hear Heather’s thoughts on having publicists who are very standoffish and even rude to reporters. [33:19] - Heather shares tips on how she gained and maintains her amazing confidence. [36:25] - Another way that Heather maintains her confidence is by knowing what she brings to the table, she explains. [38:49] - Heather chats about her relationship with her husband, who she met when she was just 21 years old. [43:32] - Does Heather have any tips or advice on marriage? [47:05] - Heather points out that sometimes it can seem like you’re being insincere on social media, even if you’re trying to be open. [48:29] - Where can listeners find Heather online? Links and Resources: Married at First Sight Married at First Sight Happily Ever After? Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner ...

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    Ep 10: Questions for Doug Part 1 Feb 27, 2019
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    Today’s show is going to be a little different! Instead of having guests, Doug will take today’s episode to answer listeners’ questions. He invited these questions on social media before the show, and hasn’t even read them yet because he wants his answers to be completely real and unrehearsed. Ready for this?! Before we get into Doug’s Q&A session, we’ll talk together to answer one of the most common questions we get from listeners: why we’re in Los Angeles right now! Jamie loves California and feels at home here, so she put it out to the universe that she wanted to spend significant time here before our daughter is in school. Tune into the episode to learn how we made this work! Our first question is about the most difficult chapter in our marriage after the show ended. This was when we had to move into Doug’s parents’ house after Jamie got pregnant. If Jamie hadn’t been pregnant, we actually might not have made it through this period. Our next question goes the other direction: what’s a positive thing about marriage that Doug didn’t expect? His answer is all about communication. Other topics we’ll address in the answers to these questions include how Doug felt about Jamie at their wedding and immediately afterward, whether Doug struggles with Jamie’s initial lack of attraction to him, how he became such a secure person, whether we still watch Married at First Sight, how he would rate our marriage, whether Doug officiates weddings, This is your chance to learn all about Doug, so don’t miss it! And if you want to submit a question to a potential future Q&A episode, stay tuned on our Instagram accounts. We’ll let you know when we’re accepting questions for the next Q&A session with one (or maybe both) of us. We love to get your questions, and we’d really like to get your feedback on whether you want more episodes like this! Today’s Guest: Maya Vorderstrasse on Instagram @MayaVstrasse on Twitter Maya Vorderstrasse on Facebook Once Upon a Letter Board In This Episode: [01:20] - Doug welcomes listeners, and explains what today’s episode will be all about. [07:35] - Jamie was unaware of the “ask Doug anything” event on social media. She then shares the story of Doug accidentally stabbing himself in the hand. [11:44] - Listeners learn why Jamie and Doug are in LA right now, and how much Jamie loves spending time in California. [16:33] - Doug starts his Q&A segment! The first question is about what was the most difficult chapter in our marriage after the show ended. [20:33] - What is one positive thing about marriage that Doug didn’t expect? [21:36] - Are Doug and Jamie considering moving to LA? [22:40] - How did Doug feel about Jamie during the wedding, immediately afterward, and the next day? [26:25] - How did Doug move past the fact that Jamie wasn’t attracted to him at first? Is he insecure about this now? [28:08] - Jamie shares a story about her awkwardness. [30:02] - How did Doug become such a secure person? [31:05] - Would Doug and Jamie do another reality show? Are they watching the new season? What do they think of people comparing Jamie to Luke? [32:42] - Did Doug quit smoking? [33:37] - How would Doug rate the marriage today? Is Jamie content now? [35:21] - Why did Doug become ordained to officiate weddings, and does he do so regularly? [37:07] - What’s the best part of being a dad? [38:09] - How does Doug’s family deal with the temporary move to California? What do Doug and Jamie struggle with when it comes to co-parenting? [39:57] - What is the best advice that Doug’s parents gave him about marriage and parenting? Do Doug and Jamie get along with each other’s siblings? What’s the meaning of Doug’s tattoo? What are Jamie and Doug’s annoying habits? [42:36] - Does Henley have Doug’s personality, or Jamie’s? [43:19] - What would Doug miss the most, and enjoy the most, if their life in front of the camera ended tomorrow? [45:51] - There are so many more questions that the rest will need to be in Part 2! Let us know if you...

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    Ep 9: Postpartum Depression with Maya V. Feb 20, 2019
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    There are some people on Instagram who Jamie loves following, and today’s guest is one of them! Maya Vorderstrasse is a fantastic inspiration, and you might recognize some of her ideas as the inspiration for some of our own Instagram pictures. As the mom of “Irish twins,” Maya has two children who were born within 12 months of each other. (So if you thought you couldn’t get pregnant while breastfeeding, think again!) This already sounds overwhelming, but add to it the fact that Maya’s whole family is in Brazil, so she doesn’t have the sort of day-to-day family help that could lift some of the burden. She’s open about the struggles of parenthood, not only in terms of this family situation, but also her struggle with postpartum depression. As you’ll learn today, Maya was super energetic after her first daughter’s birth and during her second pregnancy. Even immediately after the second birth, she felt excited (even though some days were hard). To her surprise and confusion, postpartum depression set in months after having her second baby. She felt like she was fading away, and spent months ignoring the feeling and trying to push it down. Finally, it burst forth as anger so bad that she left a hole in the wall, and her husband supported her in getting help. This was when she was finally diagnosed with postpartum depression. In our conversation, Maya offers a sensitive, intimate, and often humor-filled look into the realities of postpartum depression. She openly shares her journey, offering a realistic yet inspirational look into dealing with this struggle. If you’re a woman who has suffered from postpartum depression (or might in the future), this episode will give you hope. And if you’re lucky enough to be someone who will never need to deal with postpartum depression directly, this conversation will help you understand the struggles so you can be a better partner, family member, or friend. Today’s Guest: Maya Vorderstrasse on Instagram @MayaVstrasse on Twitter Maya Vorderstrasse on Facebook Once Upon a Letter Board In This Episode: [00:37] - Jamie and Doug welcome listeners to today’s episode, and chat about today’s guest, Maya Vorderstrasse. [06:51] - Maya comes onto the show and jokes about why she’s doing this episode in the car. [09:08] - We hear about how Maya takes her pictures without a photographer, and how she gets her babies to sleep at the same time. [11:15] - Maya explains what it means to be a mom of “Irish twins,” and talks about her breastfeeding experience. [13:30] - Jamie shares her perspective as a labor and delivery nurse on the topic of breastfeeding. [15:13] - How does Maya do it, in terms of having two young children who are only 11 months apart in age? [18:22] - We learn that Maya’s family is all in Brazil, so she doesn’t have the kind of local support that might make things easier. [20:45] - Does Maya feel like she has conquered her postpartum depression? She answers, and talks about the experience of developing postpartum depression six months after having her second child. [23:52] - Maya talks about the anger that developed as part of her postpartum depression, and how she ended up getting diagnosed. [27:58] - When Maya’s kids were born, she decided that they were the only thing that mattered, and that’s what led to her falling apart. [29:15] - Jamie takes a moment to talk about the importance of getting help, and encourage listeners to seek treatment for mental health struggles. [30:43] - Maya shares her experience with medication for her postpartum depression. [34:29] - We hear Jamie’s response to what Maya has been saying, and her own experience with the ease of letting yourself go in favor of caring for a baby. [37:29] - Doug points out how much a child will mimic a parent’s behavior, which is a good reason to take care of yourself. [38:35] - Maya shares something that she and her husband did after having a child to ensure that they did the best for their family. [41:40] - How did Maya feel when ...

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    Ep 8: Dating as a Single Mom and Creating a New Family With Erica Rose & Chuck Feb 13, 2019
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    If you’re a Bachelor fan, you’re already familiar with the lovely Erica Rose! We became really good friends on Bachelor Pad, and she was even at our wedding on Married at First Sight. Erica became a single mom shortly after having her daughter, and is now very happily remarried. We think her tips on finding love as a single mom will be really powerful for all the single moms listening to this podcast. As you’ll learn today, Erica met a lawyer at work, and they quickly decided together to have a child that they would co-parent. They got pregnant on the first try, and actually ended up getting engaged. As Erica reveals, though, this was out of obligation more than being in love; their personalities were too different to be compatible as a couple. When her daughter was just six weeks old, Erica and her ex separated, and she moved from California back home to Texas for more family support. She and her ex tried to keep things open and have a happy family, but it was very painful for both of them. It took a while before Erica was ready to look for love again, because she needed time to get back to being herself again. One of the most impactful parts of this episode is Erica’s insight and tips for single moms. She talks about how important it is not to date until you’re ready. Other tips include having a good support system around you, and making sure you’re looking and feeling confident before you start dating. If you’re a single parent (or know one), don’t miss this episode that will give you insight, inspiration, and an intimate look into what it’s like to date after having kids. Today’s Guests: Erica Rose on Instagram Erica Rose on Twitter Erica Rose Sanders on Facebook Charles Sanders on Instagram Charles K. Sanders on Facebook In This Episode: [00:37] - Doug and Jamie welcome listeners to today’s episode of the podcast and introduce the guest, Erica Rose. [03:36] - We learn more about Jamie’s upbringing with a single mom and several siblings, as well as her quest to find her father. [06:48] - Jamie shares a question that she wonders: if her mom had had support and the right resources, would her life had turned out differently? [10:21] - Jamie takes a moment to introduce Erica Rose and her husband, Chuck. [11:29] - Erica explains how she and Jamie met and how their friendship developed. [13:13] - We learn that Erica had no success on Tinder, but reconnected with Chuck on Bumble. Jamie shares one of her own Tinder stories. [17:37] - Erica shares the story of how she and her ex met and decided to have a child together. [22:57] - What was it like for Erica to be a single mom? [25:42] - Erica talks about the point when she was ready to date again, and we hear more about how she and Chuck met. [28:46] - We hear about how much importance Erica’s dad put on her spouse being Jewish, and how that played out. [32:41] - Erica takes a moment to express her appreciation for how open Doug and Jamie are. [33:08] - What does Chuck do? [37:54] - We learn about how little Chuck knows about the Bachelor, and Erica talks about her tiara. [40:19] - What was Jamie and Doug’s wedding like from Erica’s perspective as a guest? [42:59] - Erica offers some tips and advice to single moms. [46:55] - Jamie shares a story about a funny moment with Erica and Chuck. [49:24] - Do Erica and Chuck have any tips that they live by, not necessarily for single moms specifically? [54:38] - Where can listeners find Erica and Chuck online to follow them and keep up with them? [56:31] - With the interview part of the episode over, Jamie and Doug chat about Erica and Chuck (and their relationship). [58:32] - Doug and Jamie share a snippet of Wifey 101. [60:47] - This week, the question that Jamie and Doug will answer is why they call their daughter both Henley and Gracie. [64:43] - Jamie and Doug close the episode with a quote from their Instagram account. Links and Resources: Married at First Sight Married at First Sight ...

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    Ep 7: Doing Your Best, Life as a Mom, & Remembering to Laugh With Cat & Nat Feb 06, 2019
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    It’s just me, Jamie, hosting the show today! When Doug went to drop our daughter off at daycare, the car broke down, so he can’t join me. The show must go on, though, and I can’t wait for you to hear this conversation with today’s guests! I think you’ll love Cat & Nat, who are amazingly funny and offer refreshing perspectives on parenting. Cat and Nat are basically twins with different parents. They’ve been friends since high school, and even have husbands with the same name. Today, their lives are deeply intertwined, as you’ll hear in this conversation! These two amazing women stumbled their way into becoming mom millionaires, and they want to help you become a mom millionaire too! As a stay-at-home mom, it can be hard to watch your husband feeling the stress of being the only breadwinner, and you might even feel guilty about spending the money that he earns. Finding your own financial success relieves this stress on both of you. Since you’re listening to this podcast, you probably already know that Doug and I met on Married at First Sight. Since Cat and Nat don’t know that story, though, I’ll tell it to them (including with some background on my time on The Bachelor), and I think you might enjoy hearing it from this different perspective! You’ll also hear about one of the most awkward moments that I had with Doug. Of course I wish that Doug could have been here for this conversation, but it was super fun (and even funny, I think!) even though he couldn’t be here. Tune in to hear all about being a real mom from two moms who really get it, and who are here to offer the perfect combination of fantastic advice, non-judgmental understanding, and a big dose of fun. I think you’ll love these two as much as I do! Today’s Guests: Shawniece on Instagram Jephte on Instagram Shawniece on Twitter Jephte on Twitter In This Episode: [00:37] - Welcome to the show! Jamie will be hosting it alone today thanks to Doug’s car problems. [04:37] - Cat & Nat joke about how to tell which of them is which (even though they aren’t identical twins, or even sisters). [06:18] - We hear the story of Cat and Nat’s friendship, which started when they were in high school. [1:33] - Do Jamie and her husband both work from home? [12:37] - We learn that Jamie discovered Cat & Nat on Instagram, and we hear an excerpt from their their #MOMTRUTHS clip about Marie Kondo. [16:26] - We hear about the difficulty of throwing out things that don’t spark joy when you’re a busy mom. [18:24] - What are Cat and Nat’s tips for moms who want to become mom millionaires too? [21:18] - Jamie, Cat, and Nat talk about finances, being a working mom, or staying at home. [23:32] - We hear about how Jamie and Doug met and got married, including the background of her time on The Bachelor. [29:20] - How did Jamie’s family react to her decision to get married at first sight? [30:53] - Jamie talks about her book, and gives an example from the book of an awkward situation she and Doug got into. [34:14] - Cat and Nat talk about their upcoming book, Cat and Nat’s Mom Truths, as well as their tour and Jamie’s desire to move to California. [40:49] - Where can people find Cat and Nat online? [42:02] - Jamie reassures listeners that Doug isn’t stranded and in trouble, even though he wasn’t able to be here for the episode. [43:54] - We hear an excerpt from Jamie’s book Wifey 101. Links and Resources: Married at First Sight Married at First Sight Happily Ever After? Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube Jamie Otis Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram Jamie Otis on Instagram Doug Hehner on Instagram Cat & Nat Cat & Nat on YouTube Cat & Nat on Facebook @catandnat on Instagram Who is Marie Kondo?! #M...

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    Ep 6: Shawniece & Jephte Talk Marriage, Reconciliation, and Parenthood Jan 30, 2019
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    Before we dive into today’s episode, we want to say thank you to all of you for the love and support for the miscarriage we recently experienced. You’re incredible, and we’re so grateful for each and every one of you. Today’s guests are Married at First Sight Season 6 stars Shawniece and Jephte. They had a tumultuous pregnancy during which they separated, but found their way back together again. We went through some struggles while pregnant too and honestly didn’t know if our marriage would pull through, so we can absolutely relate to them. At the beginning of their relationship, Shawniece was instantly smitten. For Jephte, though, things took a while longer. They’ll explain today how their journey progressed from this stage to being in a solid, loving relationship with a baby. We’ll also learn about how Dr. Pepper Schwartz helped them to navigate some of their struggles. The four of us will dig into the word “stranger,” and its complications. We all started this Married at First Sight process as strangers, but because the word means different things to different people, hearing it can be hurtful in two very different ways. We’ll also explore how things change once the cameras leave, and why it’s so important to have time to miss each other instead of being together all the time. Other topics we’ll explore include the role of the chase in relationships, how to turn the trust on, working through disagreements in a healthy and respectful way, the value of communication, diaper-changing duties, and much more! Jamie will also talk about her search for her father, and her experience with growing up without her dad. Today’s Guests: Shawniece on Instagram Jephte on Instagram Shawniece on Twitter Jephte on Twitter In This Episode: [02:03] - Doug and Jamie start things off with a message of appreciation for all the support. [05:26] - We learn about today’s guests, Shawniece and Jephte, and the similarities that they have with Jamie and Doug. [12:58] - Shawniece and Jephte have an inspiring story and they’ve been through a lot. [16:19] - Doug, Jamie, Shawniece, and Jephte chat about their similarities and the weirdness of getting married at first sight. [18:15] - When did Jephte and Shawniece consummate their marriage? Was it during the show? [20:01] - We hear about how Jephte and Shawniece’s journey went from the beginning, when Shawniece was instantly smitten. [24:22] - What advice did Dr. Pepper give Shawniece and Jephte that convinced them to tough it out rather than give up on their marriage? [27:48] - Jamie points out one of the hard things about Married at First Sight. [29:41] - Shawniece shares her perspective on the word “stranger,” which Jamie has just been talking about. [35:39] - We learn about why Shawniece and Jephte split while Shawniece was pregnant, and some of the issues that they had. [38:48] - How far along was Shawniece in her pregnancy when they went through their split? [42:30] - Jephte shares his thoughts on the experience of Married at First Sight Happily Ever After? ending, and how it was different from the end of Married at First Sight. [44:01] - Doug talks about the abrupt transition from being single to immediately being married, and the importance of having time to miss each other. [45:51] - What was Shawniece’s pregnancy like? [50:35] - Jephte and Shawniece talk more about their relationship dynamics, and the experience of the chase. [53:45] - Throughout their journey and even their separation, Shawniece has always trusted Jephte, she explains. [57:43] - Jephte talks about the difficulty of applying the experts’ advice in real-time once the show is over. [60:24] - Who changes more of baby Laura’s diapers? And who feeds her more? [64:44] - We hear more about Jephte and Shawniece’s day-to-day schedule and what their life looks like. [69:39] - Where can people find Jephte and Shawniece online to follow them or learn more about their journey? [72:10] - Jamie and Doug take a moment to express their admirat...

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    Ep 5: Struggling With Loss (You’re Not Alone!) Jan 23, 2019
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    We never planned on recording this episode, but you know how much it matters to us to be open and honest with you. We’ll never pretend that everything is perfect; we value you enough that we want to be vulnerable with you.

    Not long ago, we announced that we were pregnant. Jamie felt deep down that this was going to be a great pregnancy… until she started spotting. This can be totally normal for some women and some pregnancies, but Jamie had the exact same symptoms with our angel baby, Jonathan. Unfortunately, for us, the spotting indicated that there was a problem.

    If you haven’t heard, we had a (failed) miscarriage. We were so excited for this pregnancy, but part of us was guarded because we had lost a pregnancy before, even as we tried to stay positive. It’s amazing how hard it is to stay calm and stress-free while accepting that you can’t control whether your pregnancy has a successful outcome.

    Of course, this brings up a lot of complicated thoughts and emotions. We’re so happy for our friends who are due around the same time we were, but at the same time, it’s impossible to avoid feeling sorrow that we’re not going to be having a baby with them. Something we’re grateful for is that we went against the conventional wisdom of waiting to tell people about a pregnancy; how can they support you through your loss if you don’t tell them? On that note, we’re so grateful for the outpouring of love. Thank you for helping us to get through things.

    If you’re wondering what you should (and shouldn’t) say to someone who has suffered from a loss, don’t miss this episode. We’ll discuss some tips, and list some specific things you absolutely shouldn’t say (even if they’re true for us). For example, don’t ever say things like, “At least you know you can get pregnant,” “You weren’t that far along,” or “This miscarriage must be easier than the last one.” Things you can say include, “I’m thinking of you,” “This baby will never be forgotten,” “I’m so sorry for your loss,” and “I can’t imagine what you’re going through.” Even better is to sit and just listen!

    We don’t want you to ever feel alone. If you’ve suffered with fertility in any way, and you feel like there’s no one you can talk to about it, please reach out to us! So many of us go through these things, and no one should ever feel like they don’t have someone on their side.

    Finally, we’ll chat about Jamie’s book, Wifey 101! Tune into the episode to hear what it’s about and get a taste of what you’ll read when you buy it. (Plus you’ll learn how to get a signed copy!)

    Links and Resources:

    Married at First Sight

    Hot Marriage. Cool Parents. on YouTube

    Jamie Otis

    Wifey 101 by Jamie Otis

    hotmarriagecoolparents on Instagram

    Jamie Otis on Instagram

    Doug Hehner on Instagram

    Miracles in the Making


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