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How to Hear God Through Your Body: Embodiment, Intuition & Self-Trust, with Christina Beatty Sep 22, 2026

Show notes

What if your nervous system is actually a bridge to God? In this episode of Hidden Wisdom, spiritual embodiment coach Christina Beatty explores how embodiment, nervous system regulation, somatic healing, intuition, and self-trust can deepen our connection with God and help us access the wisdom already within us.

Christina shares her personal journey from postpartum depression and a profound moment of surrender to discovering a spirituality rooted in the body rather than something continually sought outside herself. She and the host explore what it actually means to be embodied, why spiritual growth requires us to feel rather than simply intellectualize our emotions, and how learning to discern the body's signals can transform our relationship with ourselves and the divine.

They also dive into the often-overlooked space between death and rebirth: the void, or gestation period, where transformation is integrated before something new can emerge. Christina explains why nervous system regulation doesn't mean remaining calm all the time, how resistance can actually reveal where healing is needed, and why curiosity, presence, prayer, and surrender are powerful embodiment practices.

In this episode, you'll discover how to build greater self-trust, work with resistance instead of bypassing it, reconnect with your intuition, create safety within your nervous system, and approach spiritual awakening as something you embody—not something you escape into.

If you've been navigating spiritual awakening, nervous system healing, a season of transformation, or a desire for a deeper connection with God, this conversation offers a grounded invitation to stop searching outside yourself and begin listening within.

00:00 — What embodiment looks like in everyday life
00:50 — Welcome and introduction to Christina Beattie
01:48 — Christina’s spiritual journey and surrender
05:25 — The nervous system as a bridge to God
07:42 — Self-trust, religion, and discernment
11:32 — Why reconnecting with the body matters
15:35 — Defining embodiment
17:50 — Simple ways to practice presence
19:09 — Regulation, dysregulation, and listening to the body
21:56 — Spiritual experiences through embodied awareness
29:25 — Death, rebirth, and the gestation phase
32:43 — The void, surrender, and co-creation
36:50 — Embodiment during seasons of change
37:58 — Practical tools: curiosity, resistance, and creating space
41:32 — Getting started with embodiment
47:42 — Prayer as an embodiment practice
48:54 — What surrender reveals about success and transformation
53:22 — Where to find Christina and her work

Christina Beatty is a spiritual embodiment coach who guides women home to themselves by helping them reconnect with their bodies, deepen their intuition, build self-trust, and cultivate a more intimate relationship with God. Her work blends nervous system practices, somatic healing, spirituality, and embodiment. Christina also offers one-to-one coaching and readings and hosts The Embodied Truth Podcast. She shares her work on Instagram and offers the Empowered Awakening program. Instagram: @Christina.soulempowered

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Hearing the Spirit: Christian Mediumship, Ancestors & Spiritual Discernment, with Jennifer Bessire Sep 15, 2026

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If you’re exploring Christian mysticism, mediumship, spiritual gifts, hearing God, spiritual discernment, ancestral healing, Christ-centered spirituality, or the unseen world, this conversation offers a fascinating perspective on developing those gifts while remaining rooted in Christ.
Can Christians be mediums—and can communicating with spirits coexist with faith in Jesus Christ? Christian medium, author, healer, and PhD Jen Basir joins Meghan Farner to explore Christian mediumship, spiritual discernment, hearing the Spirit, ancestors, generational healing, and spiritual gifts.
Jen’s journey into the unseen began unexpectedly. After leaving her career teaching physical therapy, she began studying energy healing through the Emotion Code and Body Code. Then, while practicing muscle testing, a female spirit appeared beside her with a message that changed everything: the point wasn’t getting the muscle testing right—it was learning to listen to the Spirit.
In this conversation, Jen shares how she began seeing spirits and communicating with ancestors, why she believes God eventually called her to offer mediumship sessions, and how she discerns between spiritual influences. Meghan and Jen explore what happens after death, whether ancestors can continue to heal and progress, ministering angels and spiritual guides, generational trauma, communicating with plants and the earth, and the importance of agency in spiritual development.
They also explore a deeper question: How do we develop spiritual gifts without allowing fear—or even the gifts themselves—to distract us from God?

00:00 Opening quote: learning to listen to the spirit
00:07 Show introduction
01:16 Introducing Jen Besire
01:47 Jen’s path to faith, marriage, and a career change
05:00 First experience seeing a spirit
06:33 From energy healing to mediumship
08:13 Different ways of receiving spiritual guidance
10:28 Physical sensations, empathy, and boundaries
12:09 Ancestors, healing, and generational patterns
15:23 Progression after death and meeting Jesus
17:39 Spirit guides and Jen’s guide, Theodore
19:17 How Jen’s mediumship sessions work
20:25 Staying clear and grounded in spiritual work
22:32 An ancestor’s transformation after death
25:12 Discernment and connecting with spirits without fear
28:01 Communicating with plants, trees, and the earth
30:12 Agency, abundance, and asking bigger
32:29 Releasing fear and learning to trust
35:18 Giving, generosity, and the flow of money
37:58 A message for the audience: blessing the places around us
40:36 Words, water, food, and intentional blessing
44:22 Where to find Jen and her work
45:25 Closing reflections and outro

About Jen Basir
Jen Basir is a PhD, Christian medium, author, and healer who worked and taught as a physical therapist for 23 years before feeling called by God to a different path in 2014. Her work focuses on helping clients come into Christ, heal generational trauma, develop spiritual understanding, and create lives of greater freedom. Her practice incorporates energy healing, mediumship, spiritual transformation, and the intuitive gifts she has developed through her own healing and faith journey.
Website: https://drjenbessire.com/
Community: https://drjenbessire.com//group
Podcast/YouTube: Spirit Stories: Conversations with the Unseen

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Beyond Religious Shame: Reclaiming God, the True Self & Spiritual Authority, with Valerie Hamaker Sep 08, 2026

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If you are navigating Mormon faith transition, LDS faith crisis, religious trauma, mixed-faith relationships, faith expansion, spiritual awakening, or healing after high-demand religion, this conversation offers a compassionate framework for growing without needing to erase where you came from.

What happens when a Mormon faith crisis becomes an invitation to spiritual growth rather than the end of faith? Licensed therapist and Latter Day Struggles host Valerie Hamaker joins Meghan Farner to explore faith expansion, religious trauma, spiritual authority, the true self, patriarchy, and how to build a deeper relationship with God after inherited beliefs begin to change.

Valerie shares her journey from deeply committed Latter-day Saint life—including serving a mission, graduating from BYU, temple marriage, Relief Society leadership, and working as an LDS Church preferred mental health provider—to eventually resigning from the Church after being called to a disciplinary council.

Rather than framing faith transition as simple deconstruction, Valerie and Meghan explore a model of transcendence and inclusion: allowing beliefs and identities that no longer serve us to change while honoring the experiences, wisdom, and spiritual foundations that helped us grow.

They discuss why a faith crisis can feel like death, the movement from externally sourced authority toward inner spiritual discernment, and the importance of rediscovering the true divine self beneath inherited identities, shame, perfectionism, and fear.

The conversation also examines transactional images of God, masculine and feminine expressions of divinity, developmental stages of faith, healthy versus dominator hierarchies, religious shame, mysticism, and the possibility of finding a more direct experience of the divine.

Timestamps

00:00 - Spiritual Autonomy After Faith Change
00:39 - Hidden Wisdom: Faith Renovation and Spiritual Discernment
01:20 - Meet Valerie Hamaker, Therapist and Faith Expansion Coach
02:24 - From Devout Mormon Life to Counseling and Healing Work
05:44 - Starting the Latter-day Struggles Podcast
07:36 - Healing, Integration, and Personal Spiritual Authority
09:16 - Leaving the LDS Church and Resisting Religious Control
13:21 - Staying Connected to Mormon Community After Resignation
14:38 - Faith Expansion Through Transcendence and Inclusion
18:14 - Discernment, the True Self, and Inner Spiritual Trust
22:11 - Divine Wholeness, Masculine and Feminine Spirituality
25:07 - Reframing Atonement, Shame, and Healing
27:15 - Faith Crisis as Death, Rebirth, and Personal Growth
32:21 - Healing Harmful God Images and Transactional Theology
37:07 - Patriarchy, Hierarchy, and Compassionate Spiritual Development
41:55 - Mysticism, Symbolism, and Direct Experience of the Divine
45:18 - Finding Spiritual Possibility Beyond Traditional Mormonism
48:01 - There Is More: Hope for Faith Expansion
49:02 - Valerie Hamaker’s Faith Healing Groups and Resources
50:13 - Hidden Wisdom Closing Invitation

Valerie Hamaker is a licensed therapist and certified coach specializing in faith expansion, mixed-faith relationships, and recovery from high-demand religion. She is the creator and host of the Latter Day Struggles podcast, where she combines clinical expertise with lived experience to help people navigate the psychological, relational, and spiritual challenges that accompany changing belief systems. Valerie also offers coaching, online courses, live events, faith-expansion groups, and other resources for individuals and couples seeking support beyond traditional religious frameworks.

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Divine Feminine and Masculine: The Missing Key to the LDS Gospel? Sep 01, 2026

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What do divine feminine and masculine energy have to do with Jesus Christ, the gospel, and becoming one? In this deep dive, Meghan Farner explores: What is divine feminine energy? What is healthy divine masculine energy? And how can balancing masculine and feminine transform our understanding of repentance, healing, and spiritual growth?

Drawing from Restoration scripture, ancient wisdom traditions, temple symbolism, and Christian mysticism, Meghan explores the law of polarity (or opposition) and the ancient “law of gender”—which she reframes as the law of masculine and feminine, or the law of creation.

Rather than treating masculine and feminine as simple opposites—or equating feminine with women and masculine with men—Meghan proposes that each person carries both. The feminine represents creativity, intuition, receptivity, transformation, divine connection, and the full spectrum of possibility. The masculine brings orientation, boundaries, stability, intentionality, protection, and execution.

What happens when these energies become wounded or distorted? And what might change when the divine feminine and masculine are healed and brought into inner union?

This episode connects these ideas to the natural man and true divine self, repentance and metanoia, Jesus Christ as an embodiment of masculine and feminine wholeness, LDS temple symbolism, becoming Zion, and the Gospel of Thomas teaching to “make the two one.”

Could becoming one in Christ begin with reconciling what has been divided within ourselves?

00:00 - Hidden Wisdom Welcome and Divine Masculine & Feminine Introduction
04:20 - Is Divine Feminine and Masculine the Key to Living the Gospel?
05:58 - Hermetic Laws: Polarity, Gender, and Spiritual Growth
06:31 - The Law of Opposition: Why Opposites Create Wholeness
08:06 - The Law of Creation: Masculine and Feminine Beyond Polarity
10:16 - Masculine and Feminine Energies in Every Person
13:37 - Feminine Energy: Intuition, Creativity, Vision, and Transformation
15:43 - Masculine Energy: Boundaries, Execution, Stability, and Safety
18:53 - Healthy and Unhealthy Feminine Energy: Responsiveness vs. Reactivity
22:20 - Healthy and Unhealthy Masculine Energy: Orientation vs. Control
25:29 - Full Spectrum Feminine Energy and Grounded Masculine Focus
28:54 - Healing the Natural Man Through Inner Masculine and Feminine Balance
30:11 - Healthy Feminine Energy: Abundance, Beauty, Trust, and Rebirth
33:12 - Healthy Masculine Energy: Purpose, Integrity, and Spiritual Direction
35:45 - The Natural Man and the True Divine Self
38:32 - Jesus Christ as the Divine Masculine and Divine Feminine Archetype
40:49 - Inner Marriage, Oneness in Christ, and Becoming Zion
42:44 - Temple Symbolism and the Union of Masculine and Feminine
43:24 - Gospel of Thomas, Metanoia, and the Path to Wholeness
46:57 - Becoming Sons and Daughters of God: Closing Reflection

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The Heavenly Mother Wound: How Cultural Trends Expose Spiritual Motherlessness, with Jocelyn Pedersen Aug 25, 2026

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What happens when a culture loses its relationship with the Divine Mother? Meghan Farner and Jocelyn Pedersen explore the Heavenly Mother wound—and how spiritual motherlessness may be showing up in our relationships, religions, and cultural conflicts.

Rather than reducing today’s tensions between men and women to feminism versus patriarchy, Meghan and Jocelyn ask what might be underneath them. What happens when the feminine is feared, diminished, or disconnected from divinity? And how might reclaiming Heavenly Mother change the way we understand both feminine and masculine spiritual identity?

Together they explore the loss of the Divine Feminine, the deeper meaning of spiritual motherhood, masculine surrender and vulnerability, and Christ as a pattern of integration rather than hierarchy. They also consider creation and gestation as sacred symbols, feminine spiritual authority, women as mirrors and initiators, and the role of both masculine and feminine in the journey toward wholeness.

This conversation invites us beyond the battle between masculine and feminine and toward something deeper: the restoration and integration of both.

00:00 - The Divine Feminine and Our Cultural Moment
04:22 - Why Are We Seeing a Backlash Against Women?
09:17 - When Feminism and Patriarchy Both Miss the Point
14:37 - The Heavenly Mother Wound: A Motherless Culture
21:01 - Why the Feminine Is Feared
23:22 - Who Is the Divine Mother?
30:20 - Discovering Heavenly Mother
32:33 - The Divine Feminine in Christ
38:10 - Creation, Gestation, and the Feminine Pattern
44:03 - Spiritual Rebirth and Returning to the Mother
48:32 - Feminine Authority, Anointing, and Christ
52:29 - Mary Magdalene and the Hidden Feminine
56:20 - Masculine Healing: Surrendering the False Self
62:12 - Shame, Vulnerability, and Becoming Whole
64:19 - Women as Mirrors and Spiritual Initiators
68:02 - Reclaiming the Feminine Without Creating Division

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Jesus the Stoic Sage: Faith, Wisdom, and the Inner Life, with Rob Nielsen Aug 18, 2026

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Meghan Farner introduces Rob Nielsen, an educator and writer whose book, Jesus the Stoic Sage, explores the overlap between Stoic philosophy and the teachings of Jesus.
This episode asks a practical question: how do we tell the difference between inherited assumptions and actual truth, and how can that clarity help us grow spiritually without collapsing our sense of faith or self?
We discuss philosophy as a wisdom tradition, the Stoic view of virtue, conscience, desire, and the body, and how Jesus’ teachings often emphasize inner transformation over outward performance. The conversation keeps returning to one central idea: embodied wisdom is not just something you believe, but something you practice.
Key topics:
In this episode, Rob Nielsen shares why he began studying Koine Greek and Latin to get closer to original texts and strip away translation baggage.
Philosophy as love of wisdom - not abstract arguing, but a tradition aimed at helping people live well and build better communities.
Stoicism and religion - the overlap is less about labels and more about what is ultimately good, true, and worthy of trust.
Symbols and teaching tools - both philosophy and scripture use images, stories, and metaphors to teach truths people may not yet be ready to receive directly.
The soul, psyche, and will - the conversation reframes the inner life as the part of us that perceives, chooses, and develops beyond the body.
Stoic emotional intelligence - Stoicism is not about suppressing feelings, but about understanding impressions, desires, aversions, and responses.
Repentance as metanoia - repentance is presented as a change in thinking, not just a behavior adjustment.
The importance of virtue - the Stoic virtues of wisdom, justice, courage, and self-control are contrasted with living as a slave to impulses or external approval.
Authority versus truth - Rob and Meghan unpack the limits of appealing to authority alone, including the Euthyphro dilemma.
Jesus as teacher of transformation - the focus is on actions, motives, and embodiment, not just belief or religious affiliation.
The body as ethically indifferent - the body is valuable as an instrument, but not inherently good or bad in Stoic terms.
Pure motives and embodied alignment - the widow’s mite, the fig tree, and other examples are used to show that what matters is not appearance, but fruit.
Timestamps:
(00:00) Hidden Wisdom’s mission and today’s focus on faith renovation
(00:58) Introducing Rob Nielsen and his book, Jesus the Stoic Sage
(02:14) How Koine Greek, Latin, and curiosity led Rob to comparative philosophy
(04:04) What philosophy really means as a love of wisdom
(06:53) Philosophy, religion, and the search for ultimate concerns
(09:36) Symbols, myth, and universal teaching patterns
(13:41) Why this conversation matters for spiritual seekers
(14:38) Psyche, soul, will, and the inner self
(17:23) What the Stoics actually meant by “stoic”
(20:13) Thoughts, feelings, impressions, and emotional response
(23:04) Repentance, healing, and subconscious triggers
(25:27) Metanoia as a change in the way you think
(28:00) Reason, conscience, and the “two or three witnesses” idea
(30:24) Desire, aversion, and what blocks perception of truth
(33:10) Virtue, excellence, and why the highest good matters
(35:06) Socrates, Euthyphro, and the limits of authority
(39:06) Why poking assumptions makes people uncomfortable
(41:01) The journey inward and the temple as the self
(43:09) The Stoic view of the body as ethically indifferent
(47:00) Hypocrisy, masks, and the importance of matching words with action
(48:54) Fruit, alignment, and what reveals what is truly good
(50:10) “Actions outshine words” and the sacramental pattern of embodiment
(52:23) Questioning inherited images of God through the lens of fruit
(54:16) Whether Jesus may have known Stoic ideas
(56:37) Tradition as inherited material that must be tested
(58:33) Why Jesus was not teaching passive obedience
(61:09) Trial, error, and experimenting upon truth
(62:28) The Stoic discipline of assent
(64:22) Desire, organization, and misplacing what is actually good
(65:17) The widow’s mite and pure motives
(66:45) What Rob gained from reading Jesus through Stoicism
(69:13) Meghan’s closing reflection on the book as an initiation to practice
(70:48) Closing invitation to the Hidden Wisdom app and community support

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How Recognizing the Divine Mother in Scripture Transforms Your Faith and Identity, with Sherri Worth Aug 11, 2026

Show notes

In this episode, Meghan Farner speaks with Sherri Worth about rediscovering the divine feminine, specifically Heavenly Mother, within LDS faith and scripture. They explore how symbols, archetypes, and ancient texts reveal her presence and significance, encouraging a deeper, lived experience of the divine that nourishes faith and restores a vital aspect of spiritual identity.

In this episode:

The importance of moving beyond information to embodying spiritual truths
How personal motherhood deepens understanding and relationship with Heavenly Mother
The symbolism of Heavenly Mother in ancient texts and modern LDS teachings
The connection between Heavenly Mother and Holy Spirit, and their joint role in creation
The influence of ancient archetypes and symbols, like weaving and the tree of life
The historical suppression of the divine feminine and efforts to obscure symbols
Practical ways to recognize Heavenly Mother's presence through symbols and scripture
Resources and tools to deepen your relationship and awareness of Heavenly Mother

Timestamps:

00:00 - Moving from information to embodiment in spiritual journeys
02:17 - The global restoration of the divine feminine and its importance for LDS women
04:00 - Sherri's story: motherhood, trauma, and seeking Heavenly Mother
06:39 - How recognizing Heavenly Mother in scripture brought comfort and significance
08:52 - Impact of knowing Heavenly Mother on mothering and self-worth
10:12 - Heavenly Mother as the Holy Spirit: ancient texts and scriptures
11:38 - The symbolism of wisdom, unity, and divine motherhood in Proverbs and Psalms
12:37 - Textual evidence supporting Heavenly Mother as the Holy Spirit
14:03 - Symbols of Heavenly Mother in prayer and personal experience
15:23 - Recognizing Heavenly Mother through her symbols, names, and archetypes
16:53 - The importance of studying her names in original languages and scriptures
17:50 - The effort to obscure Heavenly Mother through cultural and political power plays
19:27 - Historical reforms aimed at consolidating power and erasing maternal symbols
21:50 - The meaning of the Tree of Life as Heavenly Mother and the symbolism in the Book of Mormon
24:16 - The veiling of the divine feminine and the ongoing unveiling in current times
26:10 - Woven archetypes of Heavenly Mother across cultures, from native mythology to Egypt
31:16 - Recognizing her in biblical figures like Deborah, Miriam, and Eve
33:00 - Exploring divine archetypes in the Song of Solomon and Queen of Sheba
34:11 - Patterns of divine femininity that illuminate personal faith and relationships
35:56 - Embodying Heavenly Mother’s qualities and recognizing her in our bodies and experiences
37:02 - The importance of cultivating relationship and recognizing her close presence
38:34 - Seeing her as the closest and most intimate aspect of ourselves and the cosmos
39:03 - How her presence is woven through the natural world, like Earth and water symbols
40:41 - The role of symbols and archetypes in understanding and connecting with her
42:24 - Resources available for deepening your recognition of Heavenly Mother
43:24 - Supporting others in understanding her significance and sharing these truths
44:56 - The invitation to explore ancient wisdom and recognize eternal divine femininity in everyday life

Resources & Links:

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This episode invites you to see the divine feminine not as a distant or obscure concept but as an intimate, personal presence woven into scripture, symbols, and archetypes — a divine mother who longs to be known, loved, and understood by her children.

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The Sacred Spiral: Embracing the 4-Part Cycle of Transformation for Healing and Spiritual Growth Aug 04, 2026

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In this episode, Meghan Farner and Julie Dean explore the profound concept of the sacred spiral—a framework that encapsulates the cyclical nature of spiritual evolution. Discover how understanding and embracing these phases can deepen your journey of transformation, healing, and self-awareness.
Key Topics -
- The idea of the sacred spiral as a process of continuous transformation involving change, healing, and repentance
- The importance of cycles in nature, spirituality, and personal growth, including the roles of life, death, and rebirth
- The hidden fourth phase—gestation—that bridges death and rebirth, and its significance in spiritual evolution
- How the universal framework described by Meghan integrates principles from various religious and esoteric traditions
- The four phases: life (summer), death (winter), gestation, and rebirth, and their emotional and spiritual associations
- The archetypes and divine feminine symbols associated with each phase, such as Hecate, Kali, and Nut
- Practical ways to support oneself through each phase, including shadow work, embodiment, and community
- The importance of patience, receptivity, and humility during the liminal gestation period
- How recognizing these patterns in ourselves and the collective can bring peace, clarity, and alignment
- The call to embody these cycles in everyday life, nurturing our bodies, minds, and spirits
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introducing the sacred spiral framework for transformation
00:27 - Meghan shares her recent insights on spiritual patterns and divine wisdom
01:51 - Announcements about Return to the Garden mentorship and Hidden Wisdom app updates
02:49 - Exploring the universal principles of cycles seen in nature and religion
04:44 - Understanding the roles of three, four, and hidden fourth phases in spiritual models
07:01 - The realization that the missing phase is the gestation period—its purpose and importance
09:20 - How the sacred spiral maps onto stages of faith and spiritual development
10:46 - Detailing the first phase: life—summer, outward action, and productivity
12:07 - The cultural conditioning around the life phase and its utility
13:06 - The misconception that light and dark are good versus evil
14:20 - Summertime as the garden of Eden, abundance, and external growth
16:07 - Moving from external to internal focus in the spiritual journey
17:04 - The challenge of staying in the life phase and the necessity of growth beyond it
18:28 - Recognizing the universal application of these cycles across fields and beliefs
19:23 - How living in the life phase fosters ego and dissonance; the need for humility
20:22 - Supporting growth by embracing humility and the full cycle
22:08 - The second phase: death—fear, loss, paradigm shifts, and collective transformations
24:29 - Engaging grief and loss consciously to support subsequent rebirth
25:51 - Archetypes of death: Hecate, Kali, and the importance of honoring endings
27:42 - The tendency to revert prematurely to earlier phases, avoiding true death
28:39 - Navigating disillusionment and disconnection with divine or spiritual truths
30:07 - The necessity of grief, surrender, and divine timing in death
31:58 - The third phase: gestation—the dark, silent, creative womb of transformation
33:49 - Embracing the unknown and trusting in divine weaving during the liminal space
36:17 - The significance of vulnerability, shadow work, and embodiment in gestation
39:49 - Recognizing the liminal space as fertile ground for new life
42:39 - The womb as a sacred space of creation, weaving spirit and matter
45:34 - Reframing disconnection as divine incubation and divine support in silence
49:15 - Archetypes of womb space: Nut, and the collective awakening to feminine wisdom
52:34 - The seasonal analogy of winter—rest, surrender, and preparation for growth
55:04 - Receptivity, patience, and trusting the process amidst heaviness
58:15 - The final phase: rebirth—new beginnings, growth, and childlike curiosity
62:17 - Recognizing that infants start small, requiring care and patience
66:19 - Practical tools: breath work, sensuality, and movement to support embodiment
67:45 - The importance of ongoing curiosity and gentle nurturing after rebirth
70:25 - The ongoing cycle; rebirth as a continual process of learning and unfolding
73:37 - The role of community, mentorship, and collective feminine archetypes in supporting the spiral
75:30 - Embodying the pattern in everyday life to foster collective healing and transformation

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Beyond the Veil: Ethics, Spirit Communication, and a Live Reading, Part 2 with Elle Hales Jul 28, 2026

Show notes

Join Meghan and Elle Hales for part 2 as she shares insights into spiritual gift development, the importance of ethics in mediumship, and how to navigate the unseen realm responsibly. This episode demystifies spiritual abilities, emphasizing humility, discernment, and service in connecting with Spirit.
In this episode:
The mechanics of mediumship: perception, signs, and altered states
Ethical boundaries and responsibility in spiritual work
The role of intention, bias, and ego in receiving messages
How to develop and trust your spiritual senses: clairvoyance, clairaudience, and more
Personal stories of Spirit communication, including visualizations and evidence-based guidance
Practical tips for protection, setting boundaries, and maintaining spiritual hygiene
The significance of humility, patience, and joy on the spiritual journey
How spiritual gifts can serve others and foster self-growth
Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction to Spirit communication and gifts in action
00:23 - The importance of authenticity and signs in spiritual practice
01:06 - Sign seeking vs. true intention: understanding heart-centered asking
01:41 - Significance of God’s timing and receptivity in miracles
02:30 - Discerning readiness and size of signs, gratitude in receiving gifts
03:13 - The ethics of psychic work: responsibility and boundaries
05:01 - Navigating spiritual boundaries and responsible use of gifts
06:24 - Personal boundary-setting and managing spiritual overload
07:21 - The reality of spirit worlds and protective boundaries
08:45 - Visualizing and interacting with spirit guides in everyday life
10:01 - Spirit communication mechanics: visuals, emotions, impressions
12:18 - Handling sensitive information & respecting others' boundaries
14:29 - The importance of continual self-awareness and humility in gift development
15:20 - How mediumship works: altered states & divine tool usage
16:12 - The subjective experience of intuition and perception channels
18:08 - Recognizing energetic impressions: tension, emotions, and clair senses
19:32 - The different “clairs”: clairvoyance, clairaudience, and others explained
21:00 - Smelling, tasting, and sensing spirit's messages in everyday life
22:34 - Developing personal propensities and biases in spirit communication
24:15 - Layered experiences: impressions, visions, voices, and feelings
25:45 - The interpretive role of the medium: translating spirit messages
29:02 - Protecting yourself spiritually: prayers, visualization, and awareness
30:24 - The importance of high frequency and spiritual hygiene
32:44 - Trusting divine timing and God’s protection in gifting practice
34:16 - The journey of growth, deception, and returning to love
36:26 - Demonstration of mediumship: connecting with guides and loved ones
46:38 - The sacred responsibility of holding space and handling feelings
55:10 - Embracing opposites: divine masculine and feminine within us
62:33 - Healing inner conflicts, childhood wounds, and self-love
70:25 - Recognizing your children’s unique spiritual journeys
78:58 - Joy, gratitude, and embracing the seasons of life
85:17 - Small acts with big impacts: cultivating awareness and lessons learned
90:45 - The promise of ongoing spiritual experiences and growth
98:39 - The eternal progression of the soul and continuous learning in Spirit
Resources & Links
- Through the Veil Podcast
Spiritually Gifted Course
Elle Hales on Instagram
Note: This episode combines personal stories, spiritual teachings, and practical applications, aiming to empower listeners on their own spiritual journeys—always emphasizing humility, ethics, and service.

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Beyond the Veil: Spiritual Gifts, Discernment & Learning to Trust God, Part 1 with Elle Hales Jul 21, 2026

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Can we develop spiritual gifts without leaving Christ behind?

In Part 1 of this conversation, spirit communicator Elle Hales shares her remarkable journey from fear-filled childhood experiences to a Christ-centered understanding of spiritual gifts, discernment, and the reality of the spirit world. Together we explore faith, intuition, divine guidance, and how to distinguish fear from truth.

In future episodes, Elle gives Megan a live reading that leads into conversations on motherhood, family patterns, healing, and raising spiritually aware children.

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction
02:15 Elle's childhood spiritual experiences
11:00 Finding Christ through fear
20:00 Why spiritual gifts matter
27:00 Ministering angels & life beyond the veil
38:00 Discernment: love vs. fear
45:00 Discovering your spiritual gifts
59:00 Preview of what's next

Elle Hales is a spirit communicator, educator, and co-host of the Through the Veil podcast. She teaches a grounded, Christ-centered approach to spiritual gifts, intuition, and discernment.

Through the Veil Podcast

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If this episode resonated with you, there are several ways to go deeper:

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🎙️ Work with Meghan – Explore mentorship, retreats, speaking events, and additional resources to support your journey.

Learn more and explore everything at:
https://meghanfarner.com

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