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What Cleetus McFarland Learned From Greg Biffle Jul 09, 2026

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The man, the myth, the legend...Cleetus McFarland is the latest guest on Kenny Conversation! Kenny and Cleetus dive headfirst into just about everything—from the controversial (yes, they’re talking about the decline of Mountain Dew) to the hilarious (Kenny’s performance in the Freedom 500 gets put under the microscope), and everything in between. Expect laughs, cameos, and plenty of unexpected tangents. Of course, it wouldn’t be a true Cleetus episode without some surprise guest appearances—Squirrel McNutt and Mr. Sam pop in to make sure things stay Kenny-level chaotic.

But it’s not all laughs—there are some real, raw moments too. Cleetus and Kenny open up about the impact of losing close friends and mentors like Kyle Loftis and Greg Biffle, sharing honest reflections on what Biffle taught them both. They also get into Cleetus’ journey into aviation—how it all started, what drew him to the skies, and what flying means to him today.

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Does NASCAR Need to Reign Toyota In? Jul 08, 2026

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This week on Herm & Schrader, Herm's back and we've got lots to catch up on. Chicagoland Speedway is back too, with an explosive return over 4th of July weekend capped off by two great finishes. Will this be a one-off revival, or could Chicagoland make a return appearance to the schedule in 2027? Toyota continued its domination of the Cup Series with Chase Briscoe's first win of the season - the fellas debate if Toyota's purported advantage is unfair and if NASCAR should rein them in. Will Brad Keselowski's pointed challenge to Ford and Chevy spark a turnaround for the manufacturers?

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Terry Phillips: Missouri Racing Royalty Jul 02, 2026

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This week, Kenny Conversation features a pair of childhood friends reconnecting after a long time apart. Kenny Wallace and Terry Phillips grew up together at race tracks around Missouri, with Kenny learning from his brother Rusty, and Terry being under the tutelage of his father Larry. Now, both of their mentors are solidified in the NASCAR Hall of Fame, as Larry was finally elected this year after a long wait. But his son, Terry, also carved out his own racing legacy, becoming one of the best dirt racers of all-time and a Hall of Famer in his own right. This is a discussion about racing, from the Ozarks all the way to NASCAR.

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We've Never Seen Anything Like This Jul 01, 2026

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Kenny Wallace is feeling a little under the weather, but don’t worry—the reliever is in! Rick Mast steps back into the booth alongside Schrader to break down all the action from Sonoma. And yes… surprise, surprise—SVG is back in victory lane yet again, delivering another masterclass with his signature fancy footwork on full display. The fellas debate what his win means and what we can learn from it.

Meanwhile, while some are calling Toyota the dominant force of 2026, we dig into the facts and cut through the noise—reminding everyone just how razor-thin the line really is between winning and losing. And to top it all off, NASCAR is headed back to Chicagoland Speedway! Is this the start of something big, or will Chicagoland become just another relic of NASCAR's past?

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Ryan Blaney: The Newest Face of NASCAR? Jun 25, 2026

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In this Kenny Conversation, which originally aired on January 17, 2024, defending Cup Series Champion Ryan Blaney joins Kenny to discuss his rise through the ranks of NASCAR. Ryan shares stories of his upbringing and how both his father and grandfather left indelible marks on his childhood. Now a very successful driver for a powerhouse organization in Team Penske, Ryan and Kenny talk about his desire to complete his career driving for The Captain. Where does Ryan see NASCAR trending, and how can he help grow the sport and take it to new heights? All that and more on this week's Kenny Conversation as we rewind the clock back to 2024!

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Heim Time in San Diego Jun 24, 2026

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With Herm on vacation this week, we've brought in our ace reliever, Rick Mast, to break down all things San Diego with Schrader. With young talent Corey Heim securing the win, is it too early to start predicting his future Cup Series success? The weekend at Naval Base Coronado was a perfect celebration of racing and patriotism, so could a return trip be on deck for 2027? And after another win in the Truck Series for Layne Riggs, is Front Row Motorsports ready to take the next step? Plus, we remember Steve Wade, a legendary motorsports journalist who helped shape early coverage of NASCAR.

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Karsyn Elledge: More Than Just Her Last Name Jun 18, 2026

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You’ve heard her on Door Bumper Clear & Rare Breeds, but now you get the full story! Karsyn Elledge joins Kenny Wallace this week for a fun conversation about racing, life, and growing up as part of the most famous family in racing. She explains the family dynamic of being both an Earnhardt and an Elledge, and how her relationship with Dale Jr. has evolved over the years. Karsyn has done basically every job in the racing world and brings that unique perspective to each topic. Kenny and Karsyn also discuss the future of women in NASCAR and which female driver might be the breakout star that could reach the Cup Series one day.

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Who's The Hottest Driver In NASCAR? Jun 17, 2026

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Herm & Schrader are back home and trying to figure out if anyone can beat Denny Hamlin or Justin Allgaier? The Cup Series had another sellout at Pocono... and the fellas debate if NASCAR's ability to shift the race start time was influenced by broadcasting on a streaming platform like Amazon Prime. NASCAR heads west to San Diego this weekend, what can we expect from an entirely new road course? Plus, Schrader delivers some of the best jokes in H&S history!

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Matt Weaver: The Saga of Saving Nashville Fairgrounds Jun 11, 2026

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Kenny Wallace caused some controversy regarding the Nashville Fairgrounds, and now he's explaining himself to legendary motorsports journalist Matt Weaver! Weaver joins the show to discuss what's really going on with the historic racetrack and its future as a potential NASCAR venue. There are forces in Nashville that would like to see the track torn down, and old school racing purists are fighting the good fight to keep it standing. Weaver and Wallace then debate the state of NASCAR and how the sport is doing midway through 2026, after a tumultuous off-season.

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Has NASCAR Gotten Too Fast?? Jun 10, 2026

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With Denny Hamlin securing his 63rd Cup Series win and tying Kyle Busch on the all-time wins list, the fellas revisit Hamlin's rumored retirement plans. Could 2026 finally be Denny's year for a title, or is he just keeping the seat warm for Brent Crews? Carson Hocevar continues to be a fan-favorite, but is he burning too many bridges with his competitors? With speeds over 210 miles per hour at Michigan...and Christopher Bell and Chase Elliott taking hard hits on the wall, is the racing too fast or just right?

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