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    Herding Code

    A technology podcast with Jon Galloway, Scott Allen, Kevin Dente, Scott Koon

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    Episode 26: Laurent Bugnion on WPF and Silverlight Nov 14, 2008
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    Episode 26

    Jon talks to Laurent Bugnion about WPF and Silverlight. Laurent's an expert on WPF and Silverlight, and is the author of Silverlight 2 Unleashed. Topics
    • Differences between WPF and Silverlight
    • Thoughts on Silverlight offline
    • Model-View-ViewModel pattern and applications in Blend
    • WPF Disciples mailing list
    • Why use WPF instead of Winforms
    • Non-visual benefits of WPF and Silverlight
    • Benefits of the XAML format
    • Silverlight's VisualStateManager compared to WPF triggers
    • Laurent's experiences writing Silverlight 2 Unleashed
    Links
    • Laurent Bugnion's blog
    • Post about Model-View-ViewModel
    • Laurent's demo application on design mode virtualization
    • Silverlight 2 Unleashed on Amazon
    Download / Listen Herding Code 26: Laurent Bugnion on WPF and Silverlight

    Episode 25: PDC 2008 Podcaster Roundtable with Deep Fried Bytes and StackOverflow (part 2) Nov 07, 2008
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    Episode 25

    While we were at the Microsoft PDC 2008 conference, we met up with the guys from the Deep Fried Bytes podcast as well as Jeff Atwood (StackOverflow, CodingHorror) for a podcaster roundtable. The first part of this discussion is over at Deep Fried Bytes (Episode 18).

    Download / Listen Herding Code 25: PDC 2008 Podcaster Roundtable with Deep Fried Bytes and StackOverflow (part 2)

    Episode 24: Phil Haack on the ASP.NET MVC Beta Release (part 2) Nov 04, 2008
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    Episode 24

    This is the second half of our interview with Phil Haack on the ASP.NET MVC Beta Release. Topics
    • ModelBinders in ASP.NET MVC
    • Lessons learned in building MVC (question from Brian Henderson)
    • To what extent did the MVC team look at other frameworks like Monorail, Rails, Django, etc.
    • Any new features for the 1.0 release? How about 2.0?
    • What's next for you after MVC ships?
    • How is the MVC team's community-centered release style affecting other Microsoft teams?
    • Will MVC's TDD focus affect other Microsoft frameworks?
    • Would MVC be a good fit for a RESTful service system
    • RESTful routing
    • What Visual Studio features can we expect
    • How has one year at Microsoft been for you?
    • Strongly typed ActionLink having been moved to MVC futures
    Links
    • ASP.NET MVC
    • Phil's blog
    • ASP.NET MVC on CodePlex
    Download / Listen Herding Code 24: Phil Haack on the ASP.NET MVC Beta Release (part 2)

    Episode 23: Phil Haack on the ASP.NET MVC Beta Release (part 1) Oct 26, 2008
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    Episode 23

    This is the first half of our interview with Phil Haack on the ASP.NET MVC Beta Release. Topics
    • The MVC Elevator Speech
    • MVC and Codebehind files
    • How MVC differs from Webforms
    • How MVC changes your development process
    • The difficulty in unit testing UI
    • What's the threshold for testing your programs?
    • The File / New / MVC experience
    • How MVC is built for extensibility
    • How MVC is stress tested
    • Is there a controls story for MVC?
    Links
    • ASP.NET MVC
    • Phil's blog
    • ASP.NET MVC on CodePlex
    Download / Listen Herding Code 23: Phil Haack on the ASP.NET MVC Beta Release (part 1)

    Episode 22: Brad Abrams and Tim Heuer on the Silverlight 2 Release Oct 16, 2008
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    Episode 22

    This week we talk to Brad Abrams and Tim Heuer about the Silverlight 2 release. Topics
    • What's new?
    • The releationship between the DLR and Silverlight 2
    • The Eclipse for Silverlight development
    • The Open Specification Promise for XAML
    • Progress on Mono / Moonlight
    • The elevator speech on Silverlight
    • How Silverlight fits in with AJAX
    • Can Silverlight support separation of concerns and testability?
    • Will Microsoft be shipping frameworks for Silverlight?
    • Will Silverlight support offline scenarios
    • Silverlight as a "line of business" platform
    • The WPF / Silverlight connection
    • The Silverlight open source community
    • The Flash question
    • The casual gaming market
    • Silverlight performance vs. Javascript
    • Speculation on Silverlight 3 features...
    • The non-Windows development experience
    • The Silverlight story for iPhone and other mobile platforms
    Questions from listeners
    • What's the story on Prism for Silverlight 2? What's the story for enterprise Apps? (Chris Bilson)
    • What's being done to encourage enterprise adoption, in a climate where many enterprise shops are still on IE6? (Eric Kemp)
    • What's IE's relationship with Silverlight? (Matt Hamilton)
    Links
    • Tim Heuer's blog post on the Silverlight 2 release
    • Brad's blog
    • ViewModel pattern in Silverlight
    • The Mono Moonlight project
    • Eclipse tools for Silverlight
    Download / Listen Herding Code 22: Brad Abrams and Tim Heuer on the Silverlight 2 Release

    Episode 21: Real World Development Oct 10, 2008
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    Episode 21

    This week Jon leads a discussion of real world development. We talk about how our development practices in our jobs and personal projects match up with the way we're "supposed to be" developing. Topics:
    • What are the non-negotiable practices that we always use on any code we write?
    • Jon isn't always Test Driven. Does that make him a bad person?
    • Where do code reuse and maintainability stack up when it comes to other real world priorities, like hard deadlines and short technology lifespans?
    • Is there a place for "forms over data" development? How about System.DraggyDroppy?
    Links
    • Roy Osherove's recent posts on TDD adoption
    • Ben's post on the project where TDD pretended to save the day
    • How to fail with agile
    • ALT.NET Podcast / Episode 1 on Continuous Improvement
    Download / Listen Herding Code 21: Real World Development

    Episode 20: Ted Leung on open source in the corporate world Oct 03, 2008
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    Episode 20

    This week we talk to Ted Leung. Ted works on dynamic languages and tools at Sun Microsystems and is a member of the Apache Software Foundation. We discussed a variety of issues, including:
    • Ted's wild ride through Apple, Apache, the Open Source Application Foundation, and Sun
    • How open source development can benefit software companies as well as the development community
    • How open source has worked for Apple, Sun, and IBM
    • Microsoft and open source
    • JavaFX
    • Chandler: what is it, what it does well, and where it disappoints
    Links
    • Ted's blog
    • Ted's post: Adobe Wants To Be The Microsoft Of The Web
    • Slides from Ted's OSCON talk on Open Source Community Anti-Patterns (pdf)
    • The Starfish and The Spider (wikipedia)
    • The Chandler Project
    • Info on Taligent (wikipedia)
    • Ted's old blog
    Download / Listen Herding Code 20: Ted Leung on Open Source in the corporate world

    Episode 19: Pajama Driven Development (working remote) Sep 26, 2008
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    Episode 19

    This week Scott K leads a discussion on remote work, remote access technologies, and synchronization software:
    • What software and services help with remote development
    • The joy of being your own network admin
    • Source control implications (TFS, Subversion, GIT)
    • The social tradeoff - fewer incidental conversations, more intentional conversations
    • Remote access software
    • Synchronization software
    Links
    • GE moving from Google Docs to Zoho
    • Wired: Home Sweet Office: Telecommute Good for Business, Employees, and Planet
    • VisualSVN
    • Terminals (multi tab terminal services/remote desktop client)
    • Foldershare
    • Windows Live Mesh
    • Microsoft SharedView
    • Dropbox
    Download / Listen Herding Code 19: Pajama Driven Development (working remote)

    Episode 18: Matt Podwysocki on F# and Functional Programming Sep 19, 2008
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    Episode 18

    This week Matt Podwysocki puts the fun in functional programming with a deep dive into F#. We've heard plenty of high level discussions of F# and functional programming lately, so we tried to dig into the gory details as much as possible:
    • What is functional programming, and why should we care?
    • Types of applications that would and wouldn't benefit from F#
    • How F# differs from C# 3.x and Javascript
    • How F# is being used (games, scripting, data analysis and scrubbing, etc.)
    • F# pattern matching
    • Using F# in your C# or VB based applications today
    • Getting started: F# Interactive, reading the F# source, books and resources
    • Interaction with DLR
    • Functional features we'd like to see in C# and VB
    • Spec# and Sing#
    Links:
    • Matt Podwysocki's blog
    • hubFS
    • Download the Microsoft F#, September 2008 Community Technology Preview
    • F# Developer Center
    • Dryad
    • Spec#
    • Singularity (Sing#)
    Download / Listen Herding Code 18: Matthew Podwysocki on F# and Functional Programming Additional F# References: Books:
    • Expert F# - Don Syme - http://www.amazon.com/Expert-F-Experts-Voice-Net/dp/1590598504/
    • Foundations of F# - Robert Pickering - http://www.amazon.com/Foundations-F-Experts-Voice-Net/dp/1590597575/
    • F# for Scientists - Dr. Jon Harrop - http://www.amazon.com/F-Scientists-Jon-Harrop/dp/0470242116/
    Blogs:
    • Don Syme - http://blogs.msdn.com/dsyme/default.aspx
    • Chris Smith (F# Tester) - http://blogs.msdn.com/chrsmith/default.aspx
    • Brian McNamara (F# Dev) - http://lorgonblog.spaces.live.com/
    • Jomo Fisher (F# Dev) - http://blogs.msdn.com/jomo_fisher/default.aspx
    • Andrew Kennedy (MSR) - http://blogs.msdn.com/andrewkennedy/default.aspx
    • Luca Bolognese (Managed Languages Principal PM) - http://blogs.msdn.com/lucabol/default.aspx
    Podcasts/Videos
    • Dryad on .NET Rocks - http://www.dotnetrocks.com/default.aspx?showNum=378
    • Simon Peyton-Jones on Functional Programming and Haskell - http://se-radio.net/podcast/2008-08/episode-108-simon-peyton-jones-functional-programming-and-haskell
    F# Examples
    • Any Colony Simulation - http://www.strangelights.com/blog/archive/2008/05/04/1613.aspx
    • FsTest - http://www.codeplex.com/FsTest

    Episode 17: Browser Roundup Sep 11, 2008
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    Episode 17

    This week Jon leads a discussion on the new crop of browsers:
    • What's new in Google Chrome
    • Comparison of Javascript engines
    • What does crazy-fast Javascript mean?
    • Is Webkit taking over? Why's Firefox sticking with Gecko?
    • IE8 Compatibility Mode - Will it save us from IE6?
    • Is it time for the IE team to try "File/New/Browser"?
    • Do web standards mean anything when IE doesn't support them?
    • Where does Silverlight fit in?
    • Objective-J
    Links:
    • The Google Chrome Comic
    • John Resig's Javascript Performance Rundown
    • Why Mozilla's sticking with Gecko
    • The Acid 2 Test
    • E4X (ECMAScript for XML)
    • Jon's post (circa 2005) asking when IE would support E4X
    • New Javascript features in versions 1.6, 1.7, and 1.8
    • IE8 Beta 2 Developer Toolbar
    • Objective-J (Objective-C for Javascript)
    • Dare's comparison of new browser features
    • IE8 Beta 2 Compatibility View
    Download / Listen Herding Code 17: Browser Roundup

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