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    Heat Rocks

    Scorching guests and sizzling records: join music writer Oliver Wang and music supervisor Morgan Rhodes each week as they invite their favorite artists, critics and scholars for in-depth conversations about the albums that shape our lives. Each week our special guests will take you deep into their heat rocks from the world of hip-hop, soul, dance, jazz, funk and more. Get with us!

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    Three Year Anniversary Special Oct 01, 2020
    Show notes

    This week, we're celebrating our three year anniversary (!!!) and talking about our personal favorite moments of the show.

    Thank you so much for listening and sending in your favorite moments! And here's to many more unforgettable episodes, scorching hot albums, and wonderful conversations.

    If you’re not already subscribed to Heat Rocks in Apple Podcasts, do it here!

    The Art of Sampling #3A with Nate Patrin on J Dilla's "Donuts" (2006) Sep 24, 2020
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    The long awaited third installment of The Art of Sampling series is finally here and we're talking about one of the most influential beat tapes in the history of hip-hop and producer Christian's favorite album of all time, J Dilla's Donuts.

    Music writer Nate Patrin sits down with us (remotely) to discuss the cult following of J Dilla after his passing, the emotionality of the sample flips, and his role in neo soul movement.

    More on Nate Patrin

    • Pick up Nate's new book Bring That Beat Back: How Sampling Built Hip-Hop
    • Nate's writing on Stereogum
    • Twitter

    More on Donuts

    • A Decade Old, Still Fresh: How J Dilla Wrote the Future With ‘Donuts’ (Observer)
    • Donuts Turns 10
    • Last Donut of the Night music video

    Show Tracklisting (all songs from Donuts unless otherwise indicated)

    • Two Can Win
    • Light My Fire
    • The Pharcyde: Drop
    • A Tribe Called Quest: 1nce Again
    • Slum Village: Fall In Love
    • Erykah Badu: Kiss Me On My Neck
    • Dilla Says Go
    • One Eleven
    • The Pharcyde: She Said (Remix)
    • Motherlode: When I Die
    • Donuts (Intro)
    • Waves
    • 10cc: Johnny Don't Do It
    • The Isley Brothers: Don't Say Goodnight (It's Time for Love), Pts 1 & 2
    • Bye
    • J Dilla: So Far To Go
    • The Twister (Huh, What)
    • Brand New Heavies: Sometimes
    • Brand New Heavies: Sometimes (Ummah Remix)
    • Louis Hayes: Dance with Me
    • Tarika Blue: Dreamflower
    • Erykah Badu: Didn't Cha Know
    • Workingonit
    • Galt MacDermot: Golden Apples Part II
    • Mash
    • Geek Down
    • The Jimi Entley Sound: Charlie's Theme
    • The Jackson 5: All I Think of is You
    • Time: The Donut of the Heart
    • Airworks
    • Don't Cry
    • Slum Village: Fan-tas-tic
    • Tonex: Jesus Saves
    • Miguel Atwood Ferguson and Carlos Niño: Fall in Love
    • Ghostface Killah: Murda Goons
    • Hi
    • The Pharcyde: Runnin'
    • Knxwledge: Komo_te.amo
    • J Dilla & Danny Brown: Dilla Bot VS The Hybrid

    Here is the Spotify playlist of as many songs as we can find on there.
    If you’re not already subscribed to Heat Rocks in Apple Podcasts, do it here!

    Syreeta Gates on Cardi B's "Invasion of Privacy" (2018) Sep 17, 2020
    Show notes

    When Cardi B dropped her first single Bodak Yellow back in the summer of 2017, it was a bit of a slow burn. It spent a few months moving around in the charts, but eventually became a number one single and one of the biggest hits of her career. She quickly followed up with a few more singles "I Like It" and "Bartier Cardi" which showed her versatility as a rapper, incorporating wildly different genres of music like trap, Latin boogaloo, and R&B. Cardi was hungry and made it clear through her honest lyrics and fiery delivery.

    Scholar and archivist Syreeta Gates sits down with us to discuss Cardi's move from Love & Hip-Hop: New York to one of the most powerful voices in rap music, the distinct New York vibe of the entire record, and what makes Cardi so charismatic

    More on Syreeta Gates

    • The Gates Preserve
    • Yo Stay Hungry
    • Twitter Instagram

    More on Cardi B

    • Cardi B Makes History With First Three Top 10s on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs Chart (Billboard)
    • Bodak Yellow music video
    • Cardi B’s Money Moves (GQ)

    Show Tracklisting (all songs from Invasion of Privacy unless otherwise indicated):

    • Thru Your Phone
    • Drip
    • Bodak Yellow
    • Get Up 10
    • Best Life
    • Drip
    • Lil' Kim: Ladies Night
    • Cardi B & Megan Thee Stallion: WAP
    • Drip
    • Bickenhead
    • I Like It
    • Be Careful
    • Drake: Nice for What
    • She Bad
    • Bartier Cardi
    • Best Life
    • Queen Latifah: Wrath of My Madness
    • Lil' Kim: Queen Bitch
    • Megan Thee Stallion: Girls in the Hood

    Here is the Spotify playlist of as many songs as we can find on there.
    If you’re not already subscribed to Heat Rocks in Apple Podcasts, do it here!

    Take Two #2: Janet Jackson's "The Velvet Rope" (1997) Sep 10, 2020
    Show notes

    Our second episode of the Take Two miniseries focuses on Janet Jackson's risqué and introspective album, The Velvet Rope. We discuss Janet's move to a more neo soul sound, how she matured as an artist when creating this record, and how Janet's gone underappreciated in the last decade.

    More on The Velvet Rope

    • ‘The Velvet Rope’: How Janet Jackson Tied Herself In Controversy (uDiscoverMusic)
    • The Velvet Rope: how Janet Jackson inspired a whole generation (The Guardian)
    • The Making of The Velvet Rope

    Show Tracklisting (all songs from The Velvet Rope unless otherwise indicated):

    • Anything
    • What About
    • My Need
    • Interlude - Sad
    • Can't Be Stopped
    • Got 'Til It's Gone
    • Together Again
    • DJ Premier: Together Again (Remix)
    • My Need
    • Interlude - Speaker Phone
    • Free Xone
    • You
    • I Get Lonely
    • Go Deep
    • Velvet Rope
    • Rope Burn
    • Missy Elliott: Pass Da Blunt
    • Mariah Carey: My All

    Here is the Spotify playlist of as many songs as we can find on there.
    If you’re not already subscribed to Heat Rocks in Apple Podcasts, do it here!

    Take Two #1: Janet Jackson's "Control" (1986) Sep 03, 2020
    Show notes

    This week, we are kicking off Take Two, a new miniseries where we look at two seminal albums of one artist. First up, we're discussing Janet Jackson's third studio album "Control" We talk about Janet's changing image at the time, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis' production techniques that helped usher in New Jack Swing, and this album's influence on artists like Beyoncé, Britney Spears, and Taylor Swift.

    More on Janet Jackson and Control

    • Music video for Control
    • Janet on Jimmy Fallon discussing Nasty
    • Sorry, Ms. Jackson: You’re Underrated. ‘Control’ at 30

    Show Tracklisting (all songs from Control unless otherwise indicated):

    • He Doesn't Know I'm Alive
    • Control
    • Janet Jackson: If It Takes All Nighta
    • Control
    • You Can Be Mine
    • Control
    • Nasty
    • Paula Abdul: Opposites Attract
    • The Pleasure Principle
    • When I Think of You
    • Nasty
    • When I Think of You
    • Funny How Time Flies (When You're Having Fun)
    • Control
    • Let's Wait Awhile
    • Madonna: Like A Virgin
    • Cherrelle: Saturday Love

    Here is the Spotify playlist of as many songs as we can find on there.
    If you’re not already subscribed to Heat Rocks in Apple Podcasts, do it here!

    Tiffany Johnson on Lupe Fiasco's "Food & Liquor" (2006) Aug 27, 2020
    Show notes

    Chicago has given us plenty of great artists: Noname, Chance the Rapper, Common, and of course today's focus, Lupe Fiasco. Lupe might not have known it at the time, but his debut album helped usher in a new era of rap. This new class of freshmen were raised by videogames, skateboard culture, and anime, but also addressed issues that affected them like systemic racism and gun violence.

    Filmmaker Tiffany Johnson sits down with Oliver and Morgan to discuss Food & Liquor, the interesting production choices made on the album, and how Lupe's style influenced the Odd Futures and Cool Kids of today.

    More on Tiffany Johnson

    • Women Win Big At 2020 Tribeca Film Festival Awards: Alice Wu, Ruthy Pribar, Lena Waithe, Tiffany Johnson, Julia Jansch And More. (Forbes)
    • The Black Female Director with Dime Davis and Tiffany Johnson (KCRW)
    • Twitter | Instagram

    More on Lupe Fiasco

    • Lupe talks about the making of Food & Liquor
    • The Kick, Push music video in all it's mid 00's glory
    • The Successes of Rapper Lupe Fiasco (EW)

    Show Tracklisting (all songs from Food & Liquor unless otherwise indicated):

    • Sunshine
    • Intro
    • Kick, Push
    • Kanye West: Touch the Sky
    • I Gotcha
    • Just Might Be OK
    • Daydreamin'
    • American Terrorist
    • Wallace Collection: Daydream
    • Gunter Kallmann Chor: Daydream
    • I Monster: Daydream
    • Moody Blues: Dear Diary
    • Free the Robots: Diary
    • Pressure
    • The Instrumental
    • Pressure
    • The Emperor's Soundtrack
    • I Gotcha
    • Outro
    • Pressure
    • Outro
    • The Cool Kids: Black Mags
    • The Cool Kids: Mikey Rocks

    Here is the Spotify playlist of as many songs as we can find on there.
    If you’re not already subscribed to Heat Rocks in Apple Podcasts, do it here!

    Wu-Tang Clan Special Aug 20, 2020
    Show notes

    In honor of GZA's birthday and the release of multiple members' solo debut albums, we're recutting and remastering our episodes on the Wu-Tang Clan. If you like what you hear, please listen to the full conversations in the archives!

    Show Tracklisting:

    Open Mike Eagle (ODB's Return to the 36 Chambers)

    • Damage
    • Shimmy Shimmy Ya
    • Intro
    • Baby C'mon
    • Brooklyn Zoo
    • Thelonius Monk: Ba-Lue Bolivar Ba-Lues-Are
    • Cuttin' Headz
    • Brooklyn Zoo
    • Goin' Down
    • Drunk Game (Sweet Sugar Pie)
    • Hippa To Da Hoppa

    David Ma (GZA's Liquid Swords)

    • I Gotcha Back
    • Liquid Swords
    • GZA: Come Do Me
    • Swordsman
    • Shadowboxin'
    • Liquid Swords
    • Willie Mitchell: Groovin'
    • Liquid Swords
    • Cannonball Adderly: Aries
    • Gold
    • Ann Peebles: Trouble, Heartaches, & Sadness
    • Shadowboxin’
    • Gold
    • Labels
    • Swordsman

    Havoc episode (Raekwon's Only Built 4 Cuban Linx)

    • Can It All Be So Simple (Remix)
    • Spot Rusherz
    • Incarcerated Scarfaces
    • Criminology
    • Ice Cream
    • Earl Klugh: A Time For Love
    • Ice Cream
    • Incarcerated Scarfaces
    • Verbal Intercourse
    • Knuckleheadz
    • Rainy Dayz
    • Shark N***** (Biters)
    • Spot Rusherz
    • Ice Cream

    Here is the Spotify playlist of as many songs as we can find there
    If you’re not already subscribed to Heat Rocks in Apple Podcasts, do it here!

    Braxton Cook on Emily King's "Seven" (2011) Aug 13, 2020
    Show notes

    You'd think being dropped from a major label would hurt your career, but in Emily King's case, it helped fuel her success. In 2008, she left a major label, J Records, and began working on an independent record. With the help of producer/composer Jeremy Most, she created "Seven" a seven-track EP filled with soulful ballads and heartfelt lyricism.

    Singer/saxophonist Braxton Cook joins Morgan to discuss this album, Emily King's powerful voice, watching her perform live (remember live shows?), and the subtle but important decisions she makes throughout the record.

    More on Braxton Cook

    • Braxton's Tiny Desk (Home) Concert
    • Braxton's interview with CapitalBop
    • Twitter | Instagram

    More on Emily King

    • Emily's interview with Afro about Seven
    • Emily King's Latest Album Is a Sweeping Coming-of-Age Tale (NPR)
    • Emily performing "Georgia" live at Rockwood Music Hall

    Show Tracklisting (all songs from Seven unless otherwise indicated):

    • Ever After
    • Braxton Cook: FJYD
    • No More Room
    • Emily King: Walk In My Shoes
    • Georgia
    • Christian Scott: Georgia (Live)
    • Emily King: Georgia (Live)
    • Every Part
    • Down
    • Emily King & Nick Hakim: Down (Live)
    • Down
    • Radio
    • Braxton Cook: Never Thought
    • Sides
    • Georgia
    • Every Part
    • No More Room
    • Down
    • Emily King: Look At Me Now
    • Nick Hakim: Cuffed
    • Brittany Howard: Georgia

    Here is the Spotify playlist of as many songs as we can find on there.
    If you’re not already subscribed to Heat Rocks in Apple Podcasts, do it here!

    Duckwrth on Blue Magic's "Thirteen Blue Magic Lane" (1975) Aug 06, 2020
    Show notes

    We are in the final stretch of the #MaxFunDrive! If you like what we do, please consider becoming a member and supporting our show.

    maximumfun.org/join

    Rapper/songwriter Duckwrth joins us to talk about Philly soul group Blue Magic and their spooky soul LP Thirteen Blue Magic Lane. We discuss the band's place in the Philly soul scene, pillow talk in music, and we invent a new subgenre of music #pinkysoul

    More on Duckwrth

    • Check out Duckwrth's newest single "Coming Closer"
    • Duckwrth Treats Hip-Hop As His Missionary Work (NPR)
    • Twitter | Instagram

    More on Blue Magic

    • Blue Magic's biography (Allmusic)
    • Blue Magic performing "Sideshow" on Soul Train

    Show Tracklisting (all songs from Thirteen Blue Magic Lane unless otherwise indicated):

    • Chasing Rainbows
    • The Loneliest House on the Block
    • Duckwrth: Psycho
    • Blue Magic: Sideshow
    • Haunted (By Your Love)
    • Chasing Rainbows
    • Duckwrth: Nobody Falls
    • The Loneliest House on the Block
    • The Gospel Music Worship Mass Choir: Chariot is a Comin'
    • Karen Clark Sheard: Jesus is a Love Song
    • Born on Halloween
    • D'Angelo: Untitled (How Does It Feel)
    • Stop and Get a Hold of Yourself
    • I Like You
    • Chasing Rainbows
    • Classics IV: Stormy
    • The Intruders: I'll Always Love My Mama
    • Born on Halloween
    • Dilated Peoples: Right and Exact
    • We're on the Right Track
    • Blue Magic and Margie Johnson What's Come Over Me
    • Rick James: Fire and Desire
    • Loneliest House on the Block
    • I Like You
    • The Dramatics: I Made Myself Lonely
    • The Intruders: Together
    • Stevie Wonder: You've Got it Bad Girl

    Here is the Spotify playlist of as many songs as we can find on there.
    If you’re not already subscribed to Heat Rocks in Apple Podcasts, do it here!

    Camille Yarbrough on India.Arie's "Worthy" (2019) Jul 30, 2020
    Show notes

    We are in the middle of our annual #MaxFunDrive! If you like what we do, and are in a good financial spot, please consider becoming a member of the network and supporting our show.

    maximumfun.org/join

    "Every one of us is worthy"

    This is the mantra that permeates throughout all of India.Arie's 2019 album, Worthy. It had been six years since she last released a proper LP, and India didn't miss a beat. She discusses injustice in Black America, finding love, and gives us some uplifting words that we can all use, especially in these times.

    Singer/poet/educator Camille Yarbrough sits down with us to discuss the timeliness of the album, the parallels between Camille's and India's work, and India's growth as an artist in her nearly 20 year career.

    More on Camille

    • Q&A with Nana Camille Yarbrough, Renaissance Woman, Griot Artist (Our Time Press)
    • BronxNet's Interview with Camille
    • Website | Facebook

    More on India

    • India's interview with The Black Media
    • India.Arie Talks New Album, Influencing Younger Artists & Finally Feeling 'Worthy' (Billboard)
    • Steady Love music video

    Show Tracklisting (all songs from Worthy unless otherwise indicated):

    • Rollercoaster
    • What If
    • Camille Yarbrough: Take Yo Praise
    • Fatboy Slim: Praise You
    • Camille Yarbrough: But It Comes Out Mad
    • Rollercoaster
    • Sacred Space
    • We Are
    • In Good Trouble
    • That Magic
    • Sacred Space
    • Hour of Love
    • We Are
    • Crazy
    • Sacred Space
    • Worthy
    • Steady Love
    • Worthy (Interlude)
    • Camille Yarbrough: Ain't It A Lonely Feeling
    • Erykah Badu: Bag Lady
    • Aretha Franklin: Climbing Higher Mountains

    Here is the Spotify playlist of as many songs as we can find on there.
    If you’re not already subscribed to Heat Rocks in Apple Podcasts, do it here!

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