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    Ground Floor Government

    Ground Floor Government is the podcast for the people who make local government work—behind the scenes. Hosted by David Plappert, founder of PhoneLive.io, this show gives city and county clerks, IT leads, communication pros, and public servants their time at the mic.
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    Each week, we dig into what really keeps cities and counties running—last-minute meeting prep, tech shifts, team leadership, and the quiet but essential work of transparency and public service. If you’ve ever hit publish on a public notice, stayed late to prep a meeting, or solved a problem no one even saw coming, this show is for you.

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    How Do You Go From Student to Clerk? (with Andrew Ghobrial) | Ep. 32 Feb 23, 2026
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    Summary

    In this conversation, Andrew Ghobrial shares his journey into local government, detailing his experiences as a clerk of committees and the challenges he faced in election administration. He discusses the importance of transparency, public records, and the skills needed to succeed in local government roles. Andrew also highlights innovations in processes like dog licensing and the complexities of budgeting in a government setting. He emphasizes the value of networking and community engagement for those aspiring to enter the field.

    Takeaways

    1. Andrew's interest in local government began in high school.
    2. He learned about various town departments through an annual report.
    3. Running for the select board at 19 solidified his passion for government.
    4. His role as a clerk of committees involved managing city council records.
    5. Election administration requires extensive planning and collaboration.
    6. Innovations in dog licensing aim to streamline processes for residents.
    7. Budgeting in local government varies significantly based on election cycles.
    8. Effective communication and listening skills are crucial in local government.
    9. Networking is essential for entering the field of local government.
    10. Public service is about helping people and enhancing community services.


    From Youth Council to Local Government (with Caitlan Biggs) | Ep. 31 Feb 16, 2026
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    Summary

    In this episode of Ground Floor Government, host Hugh Plappert interviews Caitlan Biggs, the Assistant Town Manager and Secretary of Little Elm, Texas. Caitlan shares her unique journey into local government, discussing the various roles and responsibilities she holds, the challenges faced during her career, and the importance of community engagement. She emphasizes the need for collaboration across departments and offers valuable advice for those looking to start a career in local government.

    Takeaways

    1. Caitlan Biggs started her career in local government through a youth council.
    2. Her journey reflects the diverse paths one can take into public service.
    3. The role of a town secretary involves transparency and record-keeping.
    4. Caitlan's assistant town manager role focuses on internal services and strategic partnerships.
    5. Navigating unexpected challenges is a common experience in local government.
    6. Community engagement is crucial for effective governance.
    7. Collaboration across departments enhances resource management and service delivery.
    8. Listening to stakeholders is key to successful leadership in local government.
    9. A master's in public administration can be beneficial for aspiring local government professionals.
    10. Flexibility and a people's first mindset are essential in public service.


    Unlocking Opportunities in Local Government (with Anthony Mejia) | Ep. 30 Feb 13, 2026
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    Summary

    In this episode, Anthony Mejia shares his journey in local government, highlighting the various opportunities available for individuals, especially at-risk youth. He discusses his experiences, challenges faced, and the importance of mentorship in developing future leaders in the field. The conversation also covers the significance of budgeting, community engagement, and the skills necessary for city clerks, including navigating complex political landscapes and ensuring accessibility for all citizens. Anthony emphasizes the need for new clerks to seek mentorship and build networks to succeed in their roles.

    Takeaways

    1. Local government offers diverse opportunities for growth.
    2. Mentorship is crucial for developing future city clerks.
    3. Budgeting impacts the level of service provided to residents.
    4. Community engagement is essential for successful local governance.
    5. ADA compliance ensures accessibility for all citizens.
    6. City clerks must navigate complex political issues.
    7. Collaboration across departments enhances local government effectiveness.
    8. Training programs exist to support new clerks in their roles.
    9. Building a professional network is vital for career advancement.
    10. Aspiring clerks should not underestimate their qualifications.


    Navigating a Career in Local Government (with Blaine Oborn) | Ep. 29 Feb 09, 2026
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    Summary

    In this episode, Blaine Oborn shares his extensive experience in local government, discussing his journey from finance to city administration. He emphasizes the importance of collaboration, the challenges faced in local government, and the passion required to make a difference in communities. Blaine also provides valuable advice for those looking to start a career in local government, highlighting the significance of mentorship and public service.

    Takeaways

    1. Blaine O'Byrne has worked in local government across multiple states.
    2. He transitioned from finance to public administration to make a difference in communities.
    3. Local government offers opportunities to create legacy changes in communities.
    4. Collaboration among departments is crucial for successful projects.
    5. The budget serves as the largest policy document in local government.
    6. Passion for public service is essential for a fulfilling career in local government.
    7. Mentorship and networking are important for career development.
    8. Challenges in local government can be navigated with strong financial management.
    9. Inclusivity and accessibility are key considerations in community development.
    10. Great communities require hard work and dedication from public servants.


    From Classroom to City Hall (with Angela Allen) | Ep. 28 Feb 05, 2026
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    Summary

    In this episode of Ground Floor Government, host Hugh Plappert interviews Angela Allen, the city treasurer of Inglewood, California. Angela shares her unique journey from education to local government, discussing the challenges she faced, the importance of finance in city management, and her commitment to community engagement. She emphasizes the need for organization and the value of mentorship for those aspiring to enter local government. Angela's passion for public service shines through as she highlights her efforts to improve transparency and accessibility in her role.

    Takeaways

    1. Angela Allen transitioned from education to local government.
    2. She faced challenges in gaining the trust of residents during her campaign.
    3. Finance is crucial for city operations and decision-making.
    4. Angela emphasizes the importance of community engagement.
    5. She believes in the power of mentorship for aspiring officials.
    6. Organization is key to managing multiple responsibilities in local government.
    7. Angela worked hard to catch up on city clerk minutes.
    8. She aims to make the city treasurer's office more visible in the community.
    9. Starting from the bottom is acceptable in local government careers.
    10. Building relationships with residents and officials is essential.


    The Journey of a City Clerk (with Belinda Munson) | Ep. 27 Feb 02, 2026
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    In this conversation, Hugh Plappert interviews Belinda Munson, the city clerk of Muncie, Indiana, discussing her journey into local government, the modernization of public records, and the challenges faced in her role. Belinda shares insights on the importance of people skills, the intricacies of local governance, and offers advice for those looking to enter public service. The discussion highlights the significance of community engagement and the evolving nature of local government responsibilities.

    Takeaways

    1. You can start with local government at the bottom or with experience.
    2. Belinda Munson has a diverse background before becoming city clerk.
    3. Modernizing records made information more accessible to the public.
    4. Challenges in local government often require collaboration with various departments.
    5. People skills and patience are crucial in dealing with the public.
    6. Belinda emphasizes the importance of transparency in local government.
    7. Running a campaign involves more than just getting votes; it requires hard work.
    8. Belinda's experience shows the impact of community feedback on government services.
    9. The role of a city clerk includes record keeping and supporting the city council.
    10. Volunteering in local campaigns is a great way to get involved in government.


    Innovative Budgeting in Local Government (with Andrew Kleine) | Ep. 26 Jan 29, 2026
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    Summary

    In this conversation, Andrew Kleine discusses his journey in local government finance, particularly his experiences in Baltimore during the Great Recession. He emphasizes the importance of innovative budgeting strategies, community engagement, and outcome-based budgeting to effectively manage city finances. Andrew shares insights on the skills necessary for success in local government and offers advice for aspiring professionals in the field. The discussion highlights the impact of local government work on communities and the importance of aligning budgets with community priorities.

    Takeaways

    1. Finance is crucial for the functioning of cities.
    2. Transitioning from federal to local government can be rewarding.
    3. Innovative budgeting can help navigate financial crises.
    4. Community engagement is essential in the budgeting process.
    5. Outcome-based budgeting aligns financial resources with community priorities.
    6. Skills in communication and collaboration are vital for budget analysts.
    7. Local government work has a direct impact on community well-being.
    8. Taking initiative can lead to significant policy changes.
    9. Engaging the public in budgeting can make the process more transparent.
    10. Understanding the whole organization enhances career prospects in local government.


    The Role of Public Service in Community Engagement (with Dominique Davis) | Ep. 25 Jan 26, 2026
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    In this conversation, Dominique Davis, a city clerk and public affairs officer, shares her journey in local government, emphasizing the importance of public service, community engagement, and accessibility. She discusses the challenges faced in her roles, including crisis management and budget processes, while highlighting the skills necessary for success in local government. Dominique also reflects on her passion for making government accessible and her commitment to nurturing talent within her team.

    Takeaways

    1. Dominique Davis began her career in local government in 2013.
    2. Her goal is to make government accessible and transparent.
    3. Crisis management can involve various challenges, from plumbing issues to public safety.
    4. Teamwork is essential in local government; everyone contributes significantly.
    5. Accessibility in government is crucial for equity and community engagement.
    6. Leadership involves stewardship, nurturing talent, and creating thriving environments.
    7. Every city presents unique opportunities for public service.
    8. Challenges in local government help develop problem-solving skills.
    9. Digital accessibility is a new frontier in public service.
    10. Career growth in local government can involve taking on multiple roles.


    From Roller Blades to Township Clerk in Clinton Township (with Kim Meltzer) | Ep. 24 Nov 27, 2025
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    It is never too late to start working in local government. Huge Plappert talks with Kim Meltzer from Clinton Township, Michigan, about raising kids, finishing college, and starting a career in politics and public service. Kim shares how Girls State in high school opened a window into creating community, how the Gulf War and concern for her children shaped her desire to help the right people get elected, and how a political science degree at Wayne State connected to real work in local government.

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    Kim explains how a local trustee race, a slate, a last-place primary finish, and a $5,000 decision turned into roller blades, house-to-house contact, and winning by 10 votes. She describes serving as a state representative, returning to the local level as township clerk, and why local politics, serving the people, and building confidence in elections feel like the best fit. The conversation highlights hard work, family, trust, accessibility, and changing the image of elections.

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    Guest Bio

    Kim Meltzer is the township clerk for Clinton Township, Michigan. She raised three children, then completed her degree in political science at Wayne State after earlier work in medical technology and a chemistry lab. Kim previously served as a local trustee and as a state representative for the 33rd district in the state of Michigan. A former professional figure skater, she says local politics keeps her close to home and closer to the people. She loves serving the people, supporting accurate elections, and helping her community participate in government.

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    What We Cover

    • Moving from a med tech degree and work in a chem lab to political science at Wayne State after raising children
    • How Girls State, the Gulf War, and wanting to help the right people get elected shaped Kim’s interest in public service
    • Running for local trustee on a slate, coming in last in the primary, and deciding whether to keep going
    • Putting on roller blades to reach more houses, changing strateg,y and winning a local election by 10 votes
    • Serving in the state House as a state representative for an open seat in the 33rd distric,t and then returning to the local level as township clerk
    • Implementing an electronic content management system, breaking down silos, reducing snail mail, and making records more accessible and less costly
    • Navigating trust in government and elections, long election nights, absentee ballot processing, and the impact of Proposition two in 2022
    • Working with the Southeast Michigan Disability Network to make precinct locations and election processes ADA-compliant and welcoming for all voters
    • Advice for people later in life who want to get started in local government, including open seats, school involvement, church, local nonprofit organizations, trus,t and community support

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    Resources Mentioned

    • Girls State
    • Wayne State
    • Southeast Michigan Disability Network
    • State Bureau of Elections
    • Proposition two in 2022


    Rebranding, Civic Pride, and Trust in Government in East Hartford (with Marissa Baum) | Ep. 23 Nov 26, 2025
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    Details are important, especially when communicating in a local community where things can be taken the wrong way. Hugh Clapper talks with Marissa Baum, head of communications for the town of East Hartford, about being a communication leader for residents and businesses. Marissa shares how a career in marketing, communications, fundraising, and development in arts and cultural institutions led to campaign work, local government, and a passion for telling stories of impact on a day-to-day, micro level.

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    From booties in seats at a free, family-friendly fall festival to earned media coverage, positive brand and reputation management, and tools like the My East Hartford 3 1 1 center, Marissa walks through metrics, storytelling, and community engagement. She talks about rebranding, civic pride, accessibility, language barriers, the digital divide, policies and processes, patience and perspective, empathy, and trust in government as good government with residents at the center.

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    👤 Guest Bio

    Marissa Baum is head of communications for the town of East Hartford, Connecticut. She joined the town in January of 2024, shortly after Mayor Connor Martin was elected. Before local government, she spent her career in marketing, communications, fundraising, and development in arts and cultural institutions, including the Connecticut Historical Society, later rebranded as the Connecticut Museum of Culture and History, and the American Jazz Museum in Kansas City, Missouri. After a major rebranding project and extracurricular campaign work, she shifted to Mayor Martin’s administration as head of communications, lives in town as a taxpayer, and focuses on stories of impact for residents and businesses.

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    📌 What We Cover

    • Details are important when you are communicating, getting the message right, and trying not to offend anyone in your local community.
    • Booties in seats, bodies in the door, and what happens when a free, family-friendly annual fall festival with performances, artists, vendors, food trucks, inflatables, and an inflatable corn maze competes with other great events in the Greater Hartford area.
    • Metrics that include attendance, earned media coverage, positive earned media coverage, brand and reputation management, how residents talk about the administration, and how residents use tools like the My East Hartford 3 1 1 center.
    • Rebranding in East Hartford with North Star, edge cities, differentiation and distinction, community engagement, stakeholders, focus groups, one-on-ones, community listening sessions, surveys, and a brand barometer tied to feelings, civic pride, and civic engagement.
    • Creative committees, business owners, longtime residents, commission members, town council, school district representation, and age, gender, ethnic, and geographic diversity in telling the story of East Hartford.
    • Budgets, triage, fiduciary perspectives, economic development, business recruitment, resident recruitment and retention, and telling a clear story about why you should open your new headquarters in East Hartford without raising taxes for this process.
    • Accessibility that includes ADA, language barriers, the digital divide, thirty-some odd languages at the local high school, Language Line, Department of Justice Title Two rulings, screen readers, color contrasts, PDFs, and good government with information that is accessible, digestible, and understandable.
    • Processes, pace, subject matter experts, service to residents and businesses, local government as about service, patience and perspective, quality of life, immediate gratification on a micro scale, rising tide lifts all ships, empathy, and building trust in government.

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    🔗 Resources Mentioned

    • Town of East Hartford
    • My East Hartford 3 1 1 center
    • North Star (rebranding firm)
    • Connecticut Historical Society
    • Connecticut Museum of Culture and History
    • American Jazz Museum in Kansas City, Missouri
    • Department of Justice Title Two rulings
    • Language Line


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