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Dr. Vladimir Kozin discusses the Ukraine conflict and explains that Kiev and NATO are the aggressors against the Russian Federation. The U.S. is threatening the use of nuclear weapons on NATO's eastern flank and has abrogated all arms control agreements. There is little no communication between either side. The Pentagon has stated this war of attrition will continue for at least five years. The western and eastern blocs are fast approaching a Third World War. He comments on Western "state terrorism" (e.g. Nord Stream), Color Revolutions, and believes COVID-19 was a U.S. biological weapon. The West seeks a strategic Russian defeat but Dr. Kozin believes Moscow will win.
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Geopolitics & Empire · Vladimir Kozin: Western & Eastern Blocs Fast Approaching Third World War #358
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Geopolitics & Empire:
Geopolitics & Empire is joined by Dr. Vladimir Kozin, who's a member of the Russian Academy of Military Sciences, vice president of the Russian National Institute for Global Security Research, winner of the Colonel-General Varfolomei Korobushin Reward from the Russian Strategic Missile Forces, and a leading expert at the Center for Military Political Studies of the Moscow State Institute of International Relations. That's a mouthful. Welcome to Geopolitics & Empire, Dr. Kozin.
Dr. Vladimir Kozin:
Well, thank you very much.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Well, we met briefly in 2017 in Moscow when you spoke to our group, which toured Russia with Sharon Tennison. I'm not a Russian agent. Us Americans, we're simply engaging in peace diplomacy because we were worried about what's happening now. We were worried about just that happening. Do you recall those days speaking at Sharon Tennison's events?
Dr. Vladimir Kozin:
Well, unfortunately, when we met that time, you have already specified a long time ago, the situation was totally different. Ukraine attacked Donbas and killed a lot of civilians in that area sometimes previously belonged to the Russian Federation before 1922, but the situation was not so dramatic and dangerous as it is nowadays because at that time, when you and your colleagues from Sharon's organization visited Moscow and talked to me, there was only one aggressor against Donbas, namely Ukraine.
But currently, we are confronted with a combination of aggressors, mainly Ukraine, plus NATO alliance. And unlike in the past, when aggressor was launched against two republics inside Donbas, currently it's a direct aggression of Ukraine plus NATO against not Donbas, but against the Russian Federation. I have to explain shortly this phenomena because since last October, two republics in Donbas, namely Donetsk People's Republic, and Luhansk People's Republic, plus Zaporizhzhia region or Oblast in Russian and Kherson region, they joined voluntarily of the Russian Federation. And when we are talking to you, they are 100% accurate subjects of the Russian Federation since 2022 October. The Crimea Republic joined the Russian Federation in 2014. So, that's the gist of the situation in that part of Europe.
The second issue, when we met before in Moscow, there was not so dramatic situation with nuclear weapons, threats to use it. Threats to use it came not from the Russian Federation because in all statements quoted by Western academic community or journalists, there was not a single word like nuclear weapons. There was no such a terminology. But, and why, I'm wondering why the Western community just interpreted Putin's words as a desire or wish to employ nuclear weapons against Ukraine and the rest of the world.
But on the contrary, the desire of the USA and NATO to use nuclear weapons against the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, our ally, have intensified, especially in the area called forward-based areas, where NATO, where Eastern flank of NATO is located, mainly in the Baltic Sea area of the Black Sea area very close to our territory at the Republic of Belarus and to the Russian exclave of the banks of the Baltic Sea.
Unfortunately, negative stance that have been pursued by the United States of America in terms of arms control, conventional or nuclear, the situation has not improved. On the contrary, it worsened. And we are still confronted with 15 negative attitude, to 15 arms control agreements that are signed on either on bilateral or on multilateral basis. And during the President Donald Trump tenure, he withdrew from four arms control agreements. And Joseph Biden has not returned or has not rewritten them or renewed them in some way. So, the situation, as I said, is very dramatic, very dangerous. And the Eastern Bloc and Western Bloc approach to the Third World War very close. So, that's the end of my bullet points. And I'm looking forward to hearing your questions.
Geopolitics & Empire:
Just as you've mentioned, I recently had on a Western academic who said that he went through 50-plus of Putin's speeches, and he agrees with you. He said that Putin never used the threat of nuclear weapons. So, we've got both West and East agreeing on that, academics
And maybe to further get your thoughts as to what is really going on with Ukraine, to me, it seems like a once-in-a-century moment, a very serious moment that signals great power, conflict, a stage of transition even because we're dealing with serious economic issues in the West as well as this desire by the West for global hegemony, domination. You've, in previous talks you've given, called this Cold War 2.0, which is even deadlier. And you cite Putin, who said the goal of US and NATO is to deliver a strategic defeat of Russia. So, if you could go further. We understand you laid out the Ukrainian assaults on Donbas. But if we go deeper, looking at the bigger historical context, what do you feel is really happening?
Dr. Vladimir Kozin:
Well, currently, as I said, there is an all-out aggression of NATO alliance against the Russian Federation per se. We are also feeling direct threat from nuclear wars or nuclear weapons stored nearby and conventional weapons also moved very closely to our territory. We are also seeing that there is no major breakthrough in resolution of the outer space activity despite the Mir scientific research lab in outer space. And we, despite all this calamities and difficulties and attacks and arm deliveries, we are still collaborating in outer space with the United States of America and some other countries like situated in Persian Gulf area or in Japan, for example.
The threat is very high because I haven't seen any improvement in Western position towards the Russian Federation. We have confronted with a huge amount of economic, financial, and individual sanctions. And nowadays, only the United States of America will be able to send its armored vehicles, tank, and Multiple Launch Rocket Systems and any petrol interceptors, interceptor systems in 33rd time.
So, in the 33rd basket, as Washington puts it, there are no negotiations. There are no telephone exchanges like in the past using code lines and direct presidential telephone lines, no delegations. We have, the Russian Federation, suspended our participation in the new start and without any glimpse of hope to resume our full-fledged participation.
So, the story is not good; it's very bad. And you were right when you reminded me that the Cold War is not over. It acquired completely qualitatively new dimension called the Cold War two-point or 2.0, like the second version, the second type of Cold War. And I've heard that the joint chiefs of staff of the United States Armed Forces, especially General Mark Milley, revealed that the Americans are planning to continue this aggression against the Russian Federation in the heart of Europe, I mean in Ukraine for the next five years. That is actually the war of attrition, and nobody except us was able to protect the civilians in Donbas.
And by the way, several figures updated from April 2014 when interim president of Ukraine, Turchynov, signed a decree to launch an anti-terrorist operation against Donbas, but actually using a regular armed forces of Ukraine against the civilian in Donbas till February last year when the current president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, started another stage of aggression exactly on 14 of February 2022. That's 10 days before we launched counterattack against Ukrainian aggression.
So, plus nearly 5,000 more civilians have been killed in Donbas only, in this two republics I mentioned. So, totally 14,000 in the previous stage of aggression, plus nearly 5,000 in the current aggression. So, it's more than 19,000 people killed in Donbas and several dozen thousands injured, wounded, etc. I am not talking about huge destruction of social infrastructure, houses, schools, hospitals, water and gas supply systems, whatnot, everything.
So, there are no chances to continue political negotiations that started soon after we responded to the Ukrainian aggression at the end of February 2022, and it lasted till the end of March last year, interrupted, by the way, by the Kyiv side. There are no chances to resume such negotiations because Kyiv and Moscow,...
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