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    Future Commerce

    Future Commerce is the culture magazine for Commerce. Hosts Phillip Jackson and Brian Lange help brand and digital marketing leaders see around the next corner by exploring the intersection of Culture and Commerce.

    Trusted by the world’s most recognizable brands to deliver the most insightful, entertaining, and informative weekly podcasts, Future Commerce is the leading new media brand for eCommerce merchants and retail operators.

    Each week, we explore the cultural implications of what it means to sell or buy products and how commerce and media impact the culture and the world around us, through unique insights and engaging interviews with a dash of futurism.

    Weekly essays, full transcripts, and quarterly market research reports are available at https://www.futurecommerce.com/plus

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    The Yes: App? Department Store? Personal Shopper? Well. Yes. - feat. Julie Bornstein, CEO & Co-Founder at The Yes Jun 05, 2020
    Show notes

    Today, Brian sits down with Julie Bornstein, former COO of Stitch Fix, currently launching the personally curated shopping app, The Yes. What is The Yes? How does an AI-integrated shopping app differ from traditional retail or eCommerce experiences?

    THE YES AND THE NEED FOR TECHNOLOGICAL INNOVATION

    • Julie has been working in the industry since the beginning of eCommerce and has always seen new ideas and opportunities which are now finally possible through technology.
    • The Yes is an AI-shopping app which makes a consumer’s shopping experience more efficient, personal, and relevant.
    • The Yes features a conglomerate of products from different brands, asking consumers questions to find and personally curate their own personal style and experience in-app.
    • Think of Spotify, but for shopping. There’s not one style that’s preferred or featured more than another - it’s an experience in which anyone can find their own specific niche. The Yes does this by focusing on user experience while supporting brands and their relationships to their consumers.

    OFF-BRAND, NAME-BRAND, AND A PERSONALIZED EXPERIENCE

    • There is a lack of trust in off-brand clothing because of its variance in size, style, fit, etc.
    • The Yes is focusing on name-brand products and helping brands to establish trust and alignment between brands and consumers - an example of this is in The Yes mixing DTC brands and traditional brands all within the app.
    • Every product has its own very intricate taxonomy that relates it to other products.
    • Launching during COVID-19 helped the Yes to sit with their initial product and spend time adding features that originally were not going to be included in the initial version.
    • “Adversity spurs innovation and adoption of that innovation.” During COVID, the physical retail experience has become non-existent so eCommerce has had to shift to becoming a more immersive experience. The Yes fits that needed role as a fashion curation by blending AI and human facilitation.


    BRANDS MENTIONED:

    The Yes

    Stitch Fix

    Good+Foundation

    Mythology

    Amazon

    Spotify

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    "People Aren't Buying Into A Story, They're Buying Into A Community" - feat. Melanie Travis, CEO & Founder of Andie May 29, 2020
    Show notes

    Brian chats with Melanie Travis, founder of Andie Swim. How has COVID affected Andie and similar direct to consumer brands? How might we shift our approach from product-centered advertising to building a direct brand-to-consumer relationship?

    MELANIE AND THE CREATION OF ANDIE SWIM

    Melanie tells her history and experiences building up to creating Andie. Melanie’s experiences with brand storytelling and customer acquisition lead her to testing the waters for Andie with advertisements to feel out the market with her first 400 swimsuits, growing Andie into what it is today.

    ANDIE DURING COVID-19

    Swim season is approaching but COVID initially had revenue falling off for Andie. They responded by cutting back on ads and converting to a day-by-day strategy with employees working remotely to find ways to resonate with customers in the current climate.

    • Consumer demand roared back given that consumers shop 100% digitally during COVID.
    • It’s been proposed that direct to consumer brands were disappearing, but there was a 180 shift into eCommerce during COVID.

    LEARNING TRANSPARENCY

    • Andie backed out of diversifying into a physical retail experience and started incorporating less traditional marketing strategies - more community-centric working with transparent storytelling in order to resonate with consumers.
    • To directly establish one-on-one relationships with its customers, Andie used less social marketing and shifted to more email and SMS.
    • Andie launched a niche product during COVID - a maternity line of swimsuits - in which they kept promotional materials more personal by having close friends and family of employees participate in the photos for the launch.
    • By doing so, the brand identity of Andie shifted to being more transparent, more community-driven, and more personal - which will stick around post-COVID.

    COMMUNITY BUILDING AND BRAND-TO-CONSUMER RELATIONSHIPS

    • Brands can have their employees perform duties outside of their traditional job roles to cultivate a more creative community of ideas in the workplace.
    • SMS and email are great ways to have one-on-one conversations with your consumers in order to build trust, transparency, and a closer brand-to-consumer bond.
    • Especially in the time of COVID-19, brands can transform their identity from community-centered physical retail experiences into a digital community bound through mutual connection - making brands less focused on selling products and more focused on building a community.


    BRANDS MENTIONED:

    Andie Swim

    Radically Personal Podcast

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    "Our Base Sense of Self is Heightened Right Now" May 21, 2020
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    Phillip and Brian are joined today by Ingrid Milman Cordy. How have brands contributed to community-based fanaticism or an individualized mindset? How has COVID-19 affected the online and in-person consumer experiences? What residual effects will the pandemic have on consumer experience? How can we be innovative in staying ahead of the curve on these changes?

    PELOTON, MIRROR, AND THEIR DIVIDING LINE:

    • Ingrid owns a Mirror, which has proven an essential and loved piece of equipment in the time of COVID-19 because of its individualized and private user experience.
    • Peloton has avoided accusations of “technology for the sake of technology” because of its contribution to building a connected, fanatical community.
    • Competitiveness contributes to a more community-based mindset in the likes of Peloton users, Crossfitters, etc.
    • Brands have an open market right now for niche devices supporting at-home and individualized experiences.
    • Brands have become like “tribes” of communities during a time of physical disconnection.

    EVERYTHING HAS A BEGINNING, A MIDDLE, AND…:

    • Ingrid predicts that after all of this is over, people are going to want community and in-person experiences even more after the pandemic.
    • Phillip plays ‘devil’s advocate' (and quotes his Insiders piece) and proposes that reality now is mimicking an unpleasant eCommerce experience.
    • Digital commerce is now the new preferred method of purchasing, so there is a need for online customer service to change with this, in incorporating better systems for handling post-purchase relations.
    • Phillip, Brian, and Ingrid discuss innovative ways to cultivate IRL experiences for customers on a digital platform in order to establish and keep positive online and IRL relationships.

    … AN END:

    • We discuss the possibilities for social changes in customer relations after the pandemic ends, in stronger communities being built or the likelihood of there being long-lasting effects for social norms in IRL experiences.
    • IRL experiences and eCommerce experiences have both changed dramatically in the last few months, in product affordability, access to products, as well as the jobs involved in the production, shipping, and selling of the product.

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    "The Beginner's Mindset is Full of Possibilities" - feat. Jai Jung Kim, Founder - Hydrant May 15, 2020
    Show notes

    Show notes coming soon.


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    "Scrappier and Faster" - Using GDocs to Build Community May 08, 2020
    Show notes

    Main Takeaways:

    • Somehow Google Docs has become the future of eCommerce, or ecommerce or E-Commerce or however everyone wants to spell it (eCommerce is correct)

    • There's a virtual mall in Google Docs, and it's insanely cool

    • Phillip may or may not be really into Jurassic Park

    • Brands are finding "scrappy" new ways to get feedback from their customers

    • eCommerce has become the name of the new shopping game, could that be a forever thing?

    Google Docs is The Future of Everything: At Least Right Now:

    There's so much going on in the world during quarantine, and Google Docs is somehow the thing right now. And somehow everybody has decided that Google Docs are how we do everything, even how we throw shopping sprees.

    Not to 'Googlesplain but the mind-blowing game-changer is how business are using it as a collaboration tool with the world writ-large

    • Seventy movies revolve around body-switching, just in case you needed to know that, and you do because Phillip's Insiders (#036) this week, aptly called Freaky Friday revolves around this very concept

    • Everyday eCommerce gets more accessible, because of the body swap that occurred between eCommerce and brick-and-mortar

    • What would have happened in Freaky Friday was forever (we may find out)

    • Jurassic Park is an incredibly frightening movie, which somehow relates to Google Docs

    • Brands are utilizing all elements of Google Drive to do all kinds of crazy cool things (lots of fun links below)

    eCommerce Is Bodyswapping With Brick and Mortar:

    With everything that's happening in our community, from massive eCommerce numbers in the wake of a complete brick-and-mortar shut down, and the possibility of COVID-19 continuing, bands are finding ways to utilize Google Docs (especially Google Sheets) in unique ways. Still, brands are also trying to find ways to entertain and distract their customers in the wake of a global pandemic.

    And we're seeing a semi-body swap that's happening between brick-and-mortar and eCommerce, with a forced way that's happening is with returns.

    • One of the things that's very different in the age of COVID-19 is returns, often quite an in-store experience for customers. Which is why customers often choose in-store brands that make returning a product a seamless experience

    • Now, though, with online brands often being the only option, shopping is happening online, and now customers have to contend with eCommerce return policies as well (which could get tricky)

    • Phillip takes the time to mention a new Future Commerce sponsor, Relay Cloud. This platform makes returns easier for everyone (customer and company), which is very helpful right now.

    • And just to mention another cool Google Doc concept, Bambu Earth, put together a form for customers to fill out so they could send "love letters" to first responders, and they aggregated feedback for customers, and then baked it into ad-creative for first responders.

    • And as Brian so eloquently said: a lot of these google docs solutions are just a great example of brands not always having to have the perfect solution.

    Future Commerce Is Having Fun: So Much Going On The Horizon:

    Phillip says the show is more fun this week, Brian says the show is always fun, and that's up to the audience to decide, but there are so many great stories this week.

    And even with all the fun, this is the most boundary-filled time in recent times, and so brands can take risks, as Brian said, now is the time for brands to get scrappier than ever.

    It's the New Abnormal, one might say.

    • One of the best parts of all of this, and there are advantages for brands willing to try new things during this period, is how much fewer fanfare initiatives need to have right now.

    • Instead of putting together fancy dramatic productions, brands can send a Google doc form to customers, put together a presentation on Slides, or relay information in a Google Doc that everyone can view.

    • It's a new kind of User Generated Content, where customers can just participate in a new way

    • Brian: We're in a moment right now where people are more excited to contribute than trolls are to destroy." (This is so Tweetable it needs to be Tweeted)

    • Digitally native brands are now fundamental scrappier, and the operators in those brands are more skilled and wear more hats, and they are the ones who know how to work the moment (from a conversation between Phillip and Matt Axline from 4x400)

    New Things Are Coming Up: Even More Future Commerce Fun:

    Brands are starting to engage with their brands in new ways, which is so important, which is going to lead to reinforced customer expectations. The brands that are getting scrappy and doing the work right now to get the job done are going to set themselves up directly.

    Which is very much a PSA to brands: Do the work so that you can succeed in the brand new world.

    • Phillip and Brian bring up a returning sponsor, Gladly, who are doing incredible things when it comes to customer service, radically personal if you will.

    • Future Commerce is going to be doing some pretty cool projects with Gladly, so make sure you're signed up to our mailing list to always be in the know (and get some really fantastic content in your inbox).

    • Phillip decides to end the show with a brand new segment: What was the last thing you bought online? (links below)

    • Phillip and Brian agree that Monoprice is the absolute best

    • Also, we have an incredible market research report coming out with Klayvio called 9x9 in a few weeks (hint: it's super freaking awesome)

    Important links from the show:

    • Google Doc for eCommerce workers impacted by COVID-19

    • adult content warning Unbound Babes Google Doc of recommendations

    • Elliot Google Sheets Mall

    Phillip and Brian's recent purchases:

    • Monoprice double wall water bottle

    • Tracksmith Hare AC

    Other episodes mentioned:

    • Episode 155 with Farmgirl Flowers

    • Episode 132 with Tracksmith

    Have any questions or comments about the show? You can reach out to us at hello@futurecommerce.fm or any of our social channels, and we love hearing from our listeners!


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    "The Fight Of My Life" feat. Christina Stembel, CEO & Founder of Farmgirl Flowers May 01, 2020
    Show notes

    Christina Stembel joins Brian to discuss what the last few months has looked like from a CEO and owner of a "nonessential" business's perspective. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    "The Consultation Is Not Where It Begins And Ends" feat. Ariel Kaye, CEO and Founder of Parachute Apr 30, 2020
    Show notes

    Brian sits down with Ariel Kaye, CEO and founder of Parachute Home to discuss innovation in crisis as a home goods brand. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    Gen Z Founders: "Grind and Put In the Work" Apr 28, 2020
    Show notes

    Gen Z founders Lesley De La Uz of LUDU, Madison Semarjian of Mada, and Chris Meade of Crossnet join the show to discuss their journeys as some of the first Gen Z founders in the retail world. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


    "Customers Need Safety" - feat. Summer Jelinek Apr 24, 2020
    Show notes

    Main Takeaways:

    • We have a super exciting guest this week, and she used to work for the happiest place on earth

    • Brian's not on the show this week so, things might get a little dark

    • Does anyone do branding better than Disney (probably not)

    • What does the future of commerce, the future of brands, the future of this planet even look like anymore?

    Was February Two Months or Two Years Ago?

    Since time has absolutely no meaning anymore, it seems like February was forever ago, but two months ago, Phillip and Lianne met Summer Jelinek at Future Stores Miami after hearing her deliver an inspirational, impactful, keynote speech about authentic customer experience.

    So let's talk more about Summer:

    • Summer Jelinek is a speaker and trainer with over twenty years of leadership experience with major corporations like Walt Disney Corporation, Disney Institute, and HEB.

    • Summer connects with audiences all over the world by redefining what consumer experience means in a modern context.

    • In an age where consumer experience has become all-important, where the social contract between brands and customers is in full effect, this level of understanding is essential to the growth of modern companies.

    • Fun fact: Summer first fell in love with the idea of the consumer experience at a ski ranch in New Hampshire and a dude ranch in Colorado

    Do All Brands Know Their Audience As Well As Disney Does?

    One of the most important considerations for any company is to know their audience and to have their audience consistently be a part of the brand's journey. Disney has their branding down to a science.

    • Summer says Disney brands absolutely everything from their pretzels to their soft drinks, and it's all a part of the story.

    • "It's just who doesn't want to eat a little bit of magic and pixie dust whenever you're having a bad day"?

    • Phillip mentions an essential aspect of the brand-customer relationship: "The better you know your audience, the more receptive I think they'll be to the kind of messaging that you could craft at this moment."

    • Summer says that Walt Disney World is an economic indicator, when the economy is good people are going to Disney, and when it's terrible people stop going (editor's note: whoa )

    • It's worth noting that Disney has handled the crisis and results of it rather well; even as the parks have closed, it's felt as though the pixie dust has dimmed a little bit.

    Retail Right Now: What Does The Situation Even Look Like?

    Amidst the raging COVID-19 pandemic, questions remain on everyone's mind, what is the new normal in retail, and how are brands and consumers going to adjust to the current situations?

    Phillip asks Summer what she thinks about the current situation on the ground?

    There's a lot to consider:

    • Firstly, there are a lot of brands who are doing incredibly well, and specific categories are booming (at least right now) because of the pandemic, while others are struggling to stay afloat

    • And as Summer mentions, right now, whether a brand is doing well, we're all just trying to survive through this.

    • The trick for businesses who are not doing as well right now is to become creative and figure out what they're next steps are, regardless of how long this lasts, with the information we all have right now.

    • Summer has some advice for brands looking at this right now: Instead of asking, why is this happening to me, ask how are we going to survive and why is this happening for me? What am I going to learn? What am I going to do differently? How am I going to set myself apart as a leader of the pack?

    • While most businesses may have the technology in place, adapting to the current environment may be more of a people problem.

    A Sense of Normalcy Is What We All Need:

    Looking to the future is essential, but it's just as important to figure out what consumers need right now, and the steps that are essential to keep everyone safe.

    So how does one feel normal in the middle of a global pandemic that has led to almost 20% unemployment?

    • Summer mentions that one of the struggles for brands may be having to give consumers an authentic brand experience even while limiting human interaction

    • Phillip brings up a company that has managed to keep its authentic brand experience undiluted: Chick-fil-A, which as a brand (a fast-food one at that that even has GF options) has managed to maintain a sense of normalcy even as they follow the rules.

    • Summer gives her perspective for the next six months and says that there will be growing pains as everything reopens, but we may all be better for it.

    • There is a lot that brands can do with this time, and even join in and celebrate with their customers as this all comes to some kind of end, it could be an inspiring time for brands.

    Extra notes:

    Phillip mentions an article he wrote for FC Insiders called From Plows to Swords, it's fantastic, and you can read it here

    Also mentioned during the show is a piece by Brian on authenticity in brand experiences during COVID-19, you're going to want to read that as well, check it out here.

    If you want to reach out to Summer (and you should), you can go to → SummerJelinek.com

    And Summer also mentioned that if anyone is looking for resume help during this scary time with lots of layoffs, you can send her an email at .

    Also, → What is something that a brand has done that has made you feel a sense of normalcy during this chaotic time?

    Let us know in the content section on Futurecommerce.fm, or reach out to us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, or Linkedin.

    Have any questions or comments about the show? You can reach out to us at Hello@futurecommerce.fm or any of our social channels; we love hearing from our listeners!


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    Wyze Leadership: "This Changes the Climate Going Forward" (feat. Anthony Potgieter, Wyze) Apr 17, 2020
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    "I think that eCommerce only grows as we move forward, as people are being forced to realize the benefit of shopping online." Today's interview unpacks the eCommerce investment and technology adoption efforts of DTC consumer electronics and home automation brand, Wyze. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


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