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Meet Warren Zanes, the Author and Rocker Behind the Springsteen Movie | Better in Person Aug 19, 2026

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When he joined the Del Fuegos, his big brother’s band, all Warren knew how to play was a record player. Things went great for a while — and then it all fell apart. So how did he wind up writing definitive books on Springsteen and Tom Petty?

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The Case of the $4 Million Gold Coffin (Update) Aug 14, 2026

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How did a freshly looted Egyptian antiquity end up in the Metropolitan Museum of Art? Why did it take Kim Kardashian to crack the case? And how much of what you see in any museum is stolen? (Part 1 of “Stealing Art Is Easy. Giving It Back Is Hard,” first published in 2023.)

SOURCES:
- Andrea Bayer, deputy director of collections and administration at the Metropolitan Museum of Art.
- Matthew Bogdanos, assistant district attorney in the Manhattan District Attorney's Office and chief of the Antiquities Trafficking Unit.
- Patty Gerstenblith, professor emeritus of law at DePaul University College of Law.
- Jim Marrone, staff data scientist at StubHub.
- Victoria Reed, Bettina Burr chair for provenance at the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston.

RESOURCES:
- "Is the Metropolitan Museum of Art Displaying Objects That Belong to Native American Tribes?" by Kathleen Sharp (ProPublica, 2023).
- "More Than 1,000 Artifacts in Metropolitan Museum of Art Catalog Linked to Alleged Looting and Trafficking Figures," by Spencer Woodman, Malia Politzer, Delphine Reuter, and Namrata Sharma (International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, 2023).
- "The Art Market 2022: An Art Basel & UBS Report," by Clare McAndrew (2022).
- "The Tomb Raiders of the Upper East Side," by Ariel Sabar (The Atlantic, 2021).
- "Kim Kardashian’s Met Gala Photo Helped Solve Looted Gold Egyptian Coffin Case," by Samantha Ibrahim (New York Post, 2021).
- "Tracking and Disrupting the Illicit Antiquities Trade With Open-Source Data," by Matthew Sargent, James V. Marrone, Alexandra Evans, Bilyana Lilly, Erik Nemeth, and Stephen Dalzell (RAND Corporation, 2020).
- "Provenience and Provenance Intersecting with International Law in the Market for Antiquities," by Patty G. Gerstenblith (North Carolina Journal of International Law, 2020).

EXTRAS:
- "The Hidden Side of the Art Market," series by Freakonomics Radio (2021).

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What if Being a Stranger Is Actually Your Superpower? | Better in Person Aug 12, 2026

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Angela Buchdahl was the first Asian American to be ordained as a rabbi, and now she is among the most influential rabbis in the world. She and Stephen Dubner talk about boundary-crossing, the aftermath of October 7, and whether you can be a good Jew without believing in God.

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684. He Helped Clean Up the Last Crash. Does He See Another One Coming? Aug 07, 2026

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Former S.E.C. chair Gary Gensler has had a front-row seat to numerous financial booms and busts. How does he feel about America’s massive bet on A.I.? “Something has to give.”

SOURCES:
- Gary Gensler, professor of the practice of global economics, management, and finance at M.I.T.

RESOURCES:
- This Time Is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly, by Carmen Reinhart and Kenneth Rogoff (2011).

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Does it Take a Twisted Mind to Write Twisted Stories? | Better In Person Aug 05, 2026

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Harlan Coben doesn’t think so. The mega-best-selling author talks suburbia, impostor syndrome, and what he learned from his college friend David Foster Wallace.

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683. In the New Space Race, Who Makes the Rules? Jul 31, 2026

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Governments started the space age. Now, billionaires and private firms are reinventing it. Guest host Steve Levitt explores what the past can teach us about a high-stakes future. (Part two of a two-part series.)

SOURCES:
- Blaise Agüera y Arcas, vice president and fellow at Google, C.T.O. of technology and society.
- Rosanna Hoffman, head of space law, policy, and sustainability at the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs.
- Alex Macdonald, former first chief economist at NASA, senior associate at the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
- Will Marshall, co-founder and C.E.O. of Planet Labs.

RESOURCES:
- "The mission to create a searchable database of Earth's surface," by Will Marshall (TED, 2018).
- The Long Space Age, by Alex Macdonald (2017).
- Planet Labs A.I.

EXTRAS:
- "Should A.I. Move to Space?," series by Freakonomics Radio (2026).

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How Gary Gulman Turned Depression Into Comedy Gold | Better in Person Jul 29, 2026

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Gary and Stephen talk about creativity, recovery, getting fired, and holding grudges. They also get outside and play basketball, which is a big part of how Gary stays well.

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682. Should A.I. Move to Space? Jul 24, 2026

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At first it sounds ridiculous. But it might be inevitable. Guest host Steve Levitt talks to a team that hopes to push A.I. infrastructure off the planet. Part one of a two-part series.)

SOURCES:
- Blaise Agüera y Arcas, vice president and fellow at Google, C.T.O. of technology and society.
- Travis Beals, senior director of product management at Google, Project Suncatcher lead.
- Will Marshall, co-founder and C.E.O. of Planet Labs.

RESOURCES:
- What Is Intelligence?, by Blaise Agüera y Arcas (2025).
- "Towards a future space-based, highly scalable AI infrastructure system design," by Blaise Agüera y Arcas, Travis Beals, Maria Biggs, Jessica V. Bloom, Thomas Fischbacher, Konstantin Gromov, Urs Köster, Rishiraj Pravahan, and James Manyika (Google, 2025).
- Reason, by Isaac Asimov (1941).

EXTRAS:
- "Are Our Tools Becoming Part of Us?," by People I (Mostly) Admire (2024).

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Why Cooking is Caregiving, with Chef Hillary Sterling | Better in Person Jul 22, 2026

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Hillary Sterling was a Brooklyn kid raised on cream cheese sandwiches and canned potatoes. So how did she become one of New York City's best chefs? The Ci Siamo executive chef explains on the second episode of Better in Person.

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Are You Really Allergic to Penicillin? (Update) Jul 17, 2026

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Like tens of millions of people, Stephen Dubner thought he had a penicillin allergy. Like the vast majority, he didn’t. This misdiagnosis costs billions of dollars and causes serious health problems, so why hasn’t it been fixed? We find out in this update of a 2025 episode.

SOURCES:
- Kimberly Blumenthal, allergist-immunologist and researcher at the Mayo Clinic.
- Theresa MacPhail, associate professor of science and technology studies at Stevens Institute of Technology.
- Thomas Platts-Mills, professor of medicine at the University of Virginia.
- Elena Resnick, allergist and immunologist at Mount Sinai Hospital.